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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Ian H</title>
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            <description>28th May 2008:

 Paul Green has been offered a new contract by Doncaster Rovers following their promotion to the Championship.

The 25-year-old midfielder is the club's longest serving player and his current deal runs out next month.

Rovers chairman John Ryan told BBC Radio Sheffield that Green is considering an offer to stay at the Keepmoat Stadium.

&quot;We made a very substantial offer to Paul Green and we sincerely hope he will accept it,&quot; said Ryan.  

Ah - the great word  &quot;Fact&quot;  always makes it true!

 if he had been made a contract offer by the club he would have signed it....fact! 

I don't know who is telling the truth - Fact!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description> leedshayter wrote: 
 at 3.30 this morning a group of mindless morons decided to kick the shite out of 3 panels of my garden fence,smashing them to bits.me the mrs n kids were all woken by this .wot the fcuks going on im thinking as im stumbling down the stairs half asleep,out onto the street i go to be  greeted by said morons shouting abuse at me from about 500yds .none of them were brave enough to come back and explain themselves.all i got was come down here old man(im 44)well kick your fcuking head in!.dont you dare! said the mrs,the police are on the way.one hour ten minutes later they arrive.e, sprotbroughs not like it used to be!.    :thumbdown: 

Before the General Election there was a huge argument about crime going up/ down and some (seemingly respectable) statistics were produced to show that crime had fallen over the last 10-15 years. What wasn't pointed out at the time was that the type of incident you're talking about is now classified as &quot;anti-social behaviour.&quot; Your incident, which involved criminal damage, or what we used to call &quot;vandalism&quot; would have been recorded as a crime a decade or so ago. No wonder &quot;crime figures&quot; are down! And that's even before we get on to those incidents which are not reported because people know the police will do nothing.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Who wants a letter? - by: Barmby Rover</title>
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            <description>MMMM, let's think here, I have a 1/3 chance of being a winner. Definitely they will be asking for more then!</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:33:05 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Fields of dreams - by: washyrover</title>
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            <description>The stadium is built the team is just about their with one or two more players.If we end in the playoffs they will come.John you have worked harder than any other man for the rovers,the fans are having a very hard time but keep the faith.Rovers till we all die.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Rooney - by: Ian H</title>
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            <description>...but she had the chance to blow him out and walk away before and didn't .... she probably grabbed an agent and took advice ... and the fact that she's been with him since he was a &quot;kid that nobody knew&quot; means that she knows him better than anyone.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Rooney - by: mushRTID</title>
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            <description>She hardly grabbed his money and fame, she was with him when he was a kid that nobody knew.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:22:19 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Rooney - by: Ian H</title>
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            <description>Ah ....even if the media have their grubby little hands on it ... How can you possibly have any sympathy with Colleen?

She knows exactly what he is like - she grabbed his money &amp; his fame and carved a &quot;career&quot; ..... she can divorce him for a few more quid, but more likely she'll &quot;stand by&quot; him, do a few more column inches in OK / Chat / Now and enhance her own status, such as it is .... no such thing as bad publicity.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Who wants a letter? - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>Are you the unlucky 1.4 million or one of the lucky 4.3 million? 6 millions workers will be effected.


Yes, it seems they have cocked up on the old tax PAYE returns. They have stated with the state of the economy and the lack of funds that they will chase every penny for those that will owe.

Government is struggling to administer/run the tax system due to the modern day working patterns ie migration of folks moving from one job to another (that's the state we live in Mr MP to make ends meet).


Anyway between now and Xmas (niiiice), you may be one of those getting a letter.</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:04:45 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>.......Tequila, it made him happy.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: RoversDave</title>
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            <description> Savvy wrote: 
 Cricket Bat? Bit harsh that Bob lad! Not sure that would fall into the catergory of reasonable force! 

Have you seen his square cut, not what it was!

Talking about the boys in blue, when I was burgled one Christmas Eve about 20 years ago, called 999. Turned up quite promptly, and went asking my neighbours what sort of person I was, as though I'd done it myself. Still waiting for my follow-up call from them.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>Here's another slant on it.


Whilst ever Sky et al all keep putting money into the Prem, Champions League etc, then somebody will cream off the money.

At the moment it is clearly the players, and they will argue 'why not as we are the shop floor workers'. The fans don't seem to be considered at all as a rule. 


the alternative and what may happened before the Football boom is just a few (the owners) creamed off all the money.


In short, somebody will/has to cream all this cash. It needs to be balanced and  some  needs pointing in the direction of fans. At the moment a massive imbalance towards the players, some to the owners, some to this new thing called agents and none to the fans</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Savvy</title>
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            <description>Cricket Bat? Bit harsh that Bob lad! Not sure that would fall into the catergory of reasonable force!</description>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:33:51 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Rooney - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>I think the normal charge for her is around £500. However, when she is asked to do something disgusting, the price is somewhat higher to compensate. Rooney was charged £1200.


Some points from this:

Why has it taken so much time after the event to come to light?

 I would suggest the Prossie is skint. 



Rooney paid £200 for a pack of Marlboro's

Rooney was shite and inexperienced in bed and it was always over to quick (2 pumps and a quirt man)


&quot;I think he believes he's invincible and untouchable. As a woman, I wouldn't like that done to me - especially if I was pregnant.&quot; 

Arrrh bless the woman of virtues and morals.


Rooney took her to Rio's Rosso Italian Restaurant.

 Is that the one near Tesco Express in the market place? 


Rooney is clearly living a life of too many cigs, too many parties and getting pissed, too many prostitutes, and god knows what else, too much money and too flash with it...........drugs n gambling who knows? One has to have sympathy with Colleen here, in the first instance on the calibre of lass he keeps getting caught with.



A god given talent of football and another that earns far much more money than he can spend............and we have been debating the price of football over the last few days. Here's part of the answer</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Savvy</title>
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            <description> Exiled in Wiltshire wrote: 
  Savvy wrote: 
  Exiled in Wiltshire wrote: 
  PDX_Rover wrote: 
 Saw the highlights of Derby at the weekend.  Greeny was central to a lot of the good stuff they did.

Wish we had him back. 

Why do you wish we had him back? What would he add to our midfield now? If we had him back, who would you drop from the Hull game - Stock? Gillett? You can't say Woods or Oster cos he's not that sort of player. Perhaps he was central to a lot of the good stuff Derby did because the rest of Derby's midfield is not as good, whereas I believe ours is, and then some.

I liked Greeny when he was with us, but he took the decision to move on so let him go. 

 Of course, if he wants to come back on suitable wages, he'd be a good squad member   ;) 

So you wouldn't have him back in the team based on a sample size of one game...how erudite!

 

Savvy...read my post in full. I clearly say I would have him back as a squad member. My point is that I do not believe he would/should walk back into a starting berth in our team.

As regards &quot;decisions being taken for him&quot;, sorry, I don't agree. We all make our own decisions. We take advice (e.g. from agents) and we can read things into circumstances (that may or may not be true, e.g. around contract offers) but, ultimately, we cannot be forced into things. Ultimately, he took the decision to sign for Derby because they came in with a good offer at a time which fitted his circumstances. 

I have read your post in full, and my point is that it would appear that you would have him back as a squad member rather than a starter based on a sample size of one game, ie, the Hull match.

As far as the decision being taken for him, just to put you in the picture, he wasn't made a contract offer, and so when Derby came along he accepted what they'd offered. The point is as the lad himself stated on Radio Sheffield football heaven, if he had been made a contract offer by the club he would have signed it....fact!  He wasn't looking to move away but the decision was made for him..jeez!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Another way to reduce the deficit - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description>Cigarettes and Alcohol- George Osborne please note:

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quirkies/Russians_urged_to_drink_and_smoke_more</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: PDX_Rover</title>
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            <description>Sheepy's barmy army. Kill them with quality house classics.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: cas rover</title>
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            <description>love zigga zagga

but surely will get shortened to zigga
or maybe thats a half measure</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: cas rover</title>
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            <description>John Browns body lies a mouldring in his grave
surely Gordon Browns ancestor

• Ian McCartney, Labour MP for Makerfield
 caught up in the expenses scandal
must have been with brother Paul
on the I WANT MONEY track

and our very own Mark Wilson
great granson of the famous Harold</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Glyn_Wigley</title>
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            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
  Glyn_Wigley wrote: 
  Rigoglioso wrote: 
  redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

£29 minimum - and we'll probably be sat in the corner as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black? 

Did you actually read the OP before coming out with this gem? 

What gem is that then? Come on, amuse me, lets hear what b*llocks you've got to say?

All football clubs are at it. Us, Leeds, Hartlepool, Swindon. North. East. South. West. League. Non-league. English. Scottish. 

The gem that you've gone all serious on a parody of some of the posts on this forum by completely missing the point of the attack.

It looks like you only read the first line of the OP and couldn't wait to try and slap him down so didn't bother reading the rest of it before coming out with the hilarious 'Pot. Kettle. Black?' line.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: Muttley</title>
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            <description>Terrorvision were shite - singer was pissed up.

All th local bands I saw were streets ahead of the headliners (sorry no idea what any of them were called)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: dumbroofer</title>
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            <description>seem to remember him from the kitch /big bren era but if it was before that im off to bed lol</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: BobG</title>
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            <description>Don't re,ember that name Roofer - but Paul Crichton must have been a Dennis after saving those 3 penalty kicks at Rochdale as well as several others from the 70's and 80's.

Cheers

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Rooney - by: Viking Don</title>
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            <description>Too right, she's never worth a thousand quid a night.

Personally, I'd rather have him as a son than her as a daughter, the dirty prozzie scum...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: dumbroofer</title>
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            <description>and who was the other keeper if memory serves me ,graham brown rings a bell but am often mistaken.thought he was decent at the time</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
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            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
  Glyn_Wigley wrote: 
  Rigoglioso wrote: 
  redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

£29 minimum - and we'll probably be sat in the corner as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black? 

Did you actually read the OP before coming out with this gem? 

What gem is that then? Come on, amuse me, lets hear what b*llocks you've got to say?

All football clubs are at it. Us, Leeds, Hartlepool, Swindon. North. East. South. West. League. Non-league. English. Scottish. 

Irony? Isn't that what they use to make Steely?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description> Glyn_Wigley wrote: 
  Rigoglioso wrote: 
  redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

£29 minimum - and we'll probably be sat in the corner as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black? 

Did you actually read the OP before coming out with this gem? 

What gem is that then? Come on, amuse me, lets hear what b*llocks you've got to say?

All football clubs are at it. Us, Leeds, Hartlepool, Swindon. North. East. South. West. League. Non-league. English. Scottish.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:bets for today - by: Superspy</title>
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            <description>indeed, i got shafted today :(</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: epworth red</title>
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            <description>B) People keep banging on about the wage bill cut it proper we do well money comes with success  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Wayne Rooney - by: mushRTID</title>
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            <description>http://www.mirror.co.uk ews/top-stories/2010/09/04/wayne-rooney-cheats-on-pregnant-wife-coleen-with-1k-a-night-prostitute-115875-22537906/

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk ews/943856/Wayne-Rooney-cheats-on-Coleen-again-with-21-year-old-hooker.html

Silly, silly boy.....if true.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: eastender</title>
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            <description> mushRTID wrote: 
 Any good local acts to report of? 

Not local but London based &quot;Futures&quot;  were very  good and one to look out for. :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:bets for today - by: BobG</title>
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            <description>It's a mugs game........ Bloody Southampton!

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: mushRTID</title>
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            <description>Any good local acts to report of?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Jonathan</title>
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            <description>I ofn't got a clue.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: BobG</title>
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            <description>Naw Ian. surely any good goalie who's been around long enough to earn a standing well above average just has to be met with 'Easy for Dennis!'? Institution he was. Which is why Sully, good as he is, isn't there yet. 

And Mr Dude, my memory of Dennis is probabaly just the same as yours: great saves, occasional bloody awful howlers and too much Christmas pud for each and every Boxing Day match - except Bradford City away :):):)

Cheers

BobG</description>
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            <description>Cute idea even so.

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: BobG</title>
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            <description>Must have been he night for it. I had a loud banging on my door at about 2 this morning. As I was still sat here reading the pearls of wisdom, I was up. And I had a cricket bat about 3 feet from me :) So I tootled off to said door, flung it open and was about to crash bat on plonkers' bonce when I noticed there was no bugger there :) Another brave little boy done a runner.... Tonight I have the other door unchained and a cleared route round to the likely area - should little boy(s) try it again.

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
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            <description> jonrover wrote: 
  CusworthRovers wrote: 
 I might pop and see Terrorvision 


Terrorvision! I thought they split years ago. I might go through later just to see them. 

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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: jonrover</title>
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            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
 I might just go and leave Doncaster all together.. oh, hang on a minute!!! :) :) :) 

Good idea, you'll not be missed  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 man squad for the championship - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> george-friend wrote: 
  Irish Branch wrote: 
 Wouldnt worry about it, its nonsense. Someone on a wind up. 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/latestnews/20100608/football-league-agm-report_2245681_2066602




`No its no wind up.  :( 

Doesn't say that it comes into effect this season.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 man squad for the championship - by: george-friend</title>
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            <description> Irish Branch wrote: 
 Wouldnt worry about it, its nonsense. Someone on a wind up. 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/latestnews/20100608/football-league-agm-report_2245681_2066602




`No its no wind up.  :(</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 man squad for the championship - by: Irish Branch</title>
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            <description>Wouldnt worry about it, its nonsense. Someone on a wind up.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:aspiring football ? - by: Pintolager</title>
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            <description>It was a nice day out for me too at Chesterfield's new ground and I agree with most of what you say Cas! The locals made a great atmosphere in the stand behind the goal where me and my mate were sat which matched alot of their play. A tidy little ground which is worth a visit. I never had any food or drink inside the ground, so can't comment on that, but the pub a couple of minutes walk from the ground called the &quot;Donkey Derby&quot; served decent food and an half decent pint at reasonable prices.

I think the scoreline flattered Lincoln to be honest as Chesterfield were a class above and I reckon they will have a good season.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Exiled in Wiltshire</title>
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            <description> Savvy wrote: 
  Exiled in Wiltshire wrote: 
  PDX_Rover wrote: 
 Saw the highlights of Derby at the weekend.  Greeny was central to a lot of the good stuff they did.

Wish we had him back. 

Why do you wish we had him back? What would he add to our midfield now? If we had him back, who would you drop from the Hull game - Stock? Gillett? You can't say Woods or Oster cos he's not that sort of player. Perhaps he was central to a lot of the good stuff Derby did because the rest of Derby's midfield is not as good, whereas I believe ours is, and then some.

I liked Greeny when he was with us, but he took the decision to move on so let him go. 

 Of course, if he wants to come back on suitable wages, he'd be a good squad member   ;) 

So you wouldn't have him back in the team based on a sample size of one game...how erudite!

 

Savvy...read my post in full. I clearly say I would have him back as a squad member. My point is that I do not believe he would/should walk back into a starting berth in our team.

As regards &quot;decisions being taken for him&quot;, sorry, I don't agree. We all make our own decisions. We take advice (e.g. from agents) and we can read things into circumstances (that may or may not be true, e.g. around contract offers) but, ultimately, we cannot be forced into things. Ultimately, he took the decision to sign for Derby because they came in with a good offer at a time which fitted his circumstances.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: Ian H</title>
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            <description>Hmmmm -  EASY FOR SULLY?

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            <title>Subject: 25 man squad for the championship - by: george-friend</title>
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            <description>Manager Roy Keane is understood to have named just 20 players in his list of 25 that he had to hand to the Football League last night.

This means that Keane has the capacity to bring in loan players between the time emergency loans kick-in next week and the beginning of January when the next transfer window opens.

Ipswich have found it easy to name the obligatory 10 home grown players in their squad – the ruling being that they had to be registered in domestic football for three seasons before turning 21.

While having to operate within the confines of a 25-strong – plus Under-21 players – squad will not unduly affect most Football League clubs it will lead to managers in the Premier League finding a number of more experienced players surplus to requirements.

Keane will be keeping an eagle eye on those who become available – and he has left himself scope to make loan signings.

No current Town senior player has been omitted from Keane’s 25, which does not include those who are under-21. They have their own subsidiary list.

Although not having the bodies to name 25 senior players Keane will still have plenty of scope to name 18 players before every npower Championship game.

Talented teenagers like Luke Hyam, Connor Wickham, Ronan Murray, Tom Eastman, Troy Brown, Conor Hourihane and on-loan Andros Townsend do not have to be in the 25 as they are all under 21.

Once confirmed players cannot drop out of the list.

In theory the likes of Pablo Counago, Lee Martin and Kevin Lisbie, who are currently on loan away from Portman Road, could be included in a new list Keane will have to announce when the January transfer window closes.



FIRST I HAVE HEARD OF IT   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Adam</title>
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            <description>JET would of cost nothing, apart from the food at the training ground.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Adam</title>
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            <description>And?

Everyone said he's be an OK League One player and he's proving that. Fantastic finish from what seemed like half a yard.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: philsky</title>
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            <description>Well im back.

That was a bloody joke; complete and utter tripe.

Both team were having a laugh.

Woking dominated the game and carved the &quot;Saints&quot; defence open countless times during the second half yet were pitiful in front of goal.

I will continue to visit St Albans given its 20 mins or so from home but ffs.

RTID</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:aspiring football ? - by: cas rover</title>
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            <description>what an excellent afternoons entertainment
like watching us 5years ago
the atmosphere
the hospitality
the chat and the beer pies and all
hope anyone else that went enjoyed the same</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Nudga</title>
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            <description> pkt_drfc wrote: 
  MrFrost wrote: 
 Is there a trick in getting the Police to come out to a crime? 


I once used the line i have just shot somebody who tried to break into my garage bloody hell you should have seen the amount of police come to my address on a positive note they caught them :) 

Funny that because some cunt I had trouble with grassed me up to Old Bill for having a dodgy tax disc in my car, only when he rang 999 he told them that someone had been kicked in on my street. The police were there within 5 mins, this lad pointed towards the dodgy tax disc and he lifted me. Didn't even question the blatent lie about someone getting a pasting.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: pkt_drfc</title>
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            <description> MrFrost wrote: 
 Is there a trick in getting the Police to come out to a crime? 


I once used the line i have just shot somebody who tried to break into my garage bloody hell you should have seen the amount of police come to my address on a positive note they caught them :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Nudga</title>
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            <description> Filo wrote: 
 And you all have a pop at Stainforth, seems the so called well to do areas are just as bad, if not worse  :-D 


Scawsby is not well to do, it's like a slighty up market version of Balby with slightly better off chavs.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Rios</title>
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            <description>Went see Stalybridge Celtic v Gainsboro Trinity.

Surprisingly good football play be Staly who won 2-0.  Jan Budtz has finally found his level in the BSN and Mark Hume looks twice the man he was at Rovers!!!  Tim Ryan was his same irrepresible self.  Played at centre back up against Jefferson Louis who is nearly a foot taller than him, so he spent the whole afternoon fouling him and hammering the ball long whenever he got it!  Finished by arguing with some loud mouthed trinity fans, getting booked and have a spat with his fellow centre half... quality!

They've built a new stand since I was last there too.  The whole afternoon made me think about Rovers and how far we've come and whether it's a good thing and whether I enjoy it.  I paid £20 today which included entrance, my train fare and pie, peas and gravy (£2.30!!!!!!) and I thoroughly enjoyed the whole thing.  Admitedly the standard of football was down quite a notch, but I'm not sure O'Driscoll's brand of football and the glamour of playing the likes of &quot;Hull&quot; is worth the extra £30 every home game!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: BigH</title>
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            <description>Lewis Guy replacing Didi Hammann. Now that's something I thought I'd never see.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
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            <description>It was a good game myself and Rigo watched, though more for incident than quality.  Shocking quality really bar the guy who scored the third goal for Marine - a cracking goal as has been said.  The ref didn't give enough cards out but he got most things right.

We're lucky with the quality we watch.  Noticed Charles Fisher playing for Frickley, no surprise he never made it he was rubbish.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description>I'm surprised that Crawley have the audacity to charge those prices considering they have never got decent crowds in comparison to what their league rivals get.

Even when they had a purple patch a couple of years ago and were comfortably at the top of the table in mid-Novemeber, they were only averaging crowds of around 1,500 at home. 

I'm sure they were only charging £11 then, so I hope they aren't financing this bumbled promotion bid on the crowds they are getting at £14 a person per time.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Red wizard</title>
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            <description> Al Riggall wrote: 
 All estimates, some generous, most seem reasonable. The non playing staff must be on a decent wage?



		                Weekly	Annual
1	Neil Sullivan (G)	4000	208000
2	James O'Connor (D)	4000	208000
3	George Friend (D)	2500	130000
4	Shelton Martis (D)	4000	208000
5	Wayne Thomas (D)	2000	104000
6	James Chambers (D)	2000	104000
7	Martin Woods (M)	4000	208000
8	Brian Stock (M)	        6000	312000
9	Steve Brooker (F)	2500	130000
10	Billy Sharp (F)	        10000	520000
11	Adam Lockwood (D)	2500	130000
12	James Hayter (F)	3500	182000
15	Mark Wilson (M)	        2500	130000
16	John Oster (M)	        5000	260000
18	Simon Gillett (M)	3000	156000
21	Sam Hird (D)	        2000	104000
22	Dean Shiels (F)	        4000	208000
23	Byron Webster (M)	1500	78000
24	Mustapha Dumbuya (M)	800	41600
26	James Coppinger (M)	5000	260000
29	Waide Fairhurst (F)	1000	52000
33	Gary Woods (D)	        1000	52000
34	Robbie Clarke (M)	500	26000
35	Brett Lucas (M)	        200	10400
36	Brad Grayson (F)	200	10400
37	Aaron Jones (D)  	200	10400
38	Robbie Oldham (M)	200	10400
			
	Total		               3853200 

I reckon Sulli will be on more as will Gillett,Wilson,W Thomas,Hayter.Plus more will be on more than we think. Hayter will of been on about that when he fist come here. The new contracts for Stock,Copps,O'conner will all be around what Billy is on imo.</description>
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            <title>Subject: The Hoops were out in force today .... - by: DONNYWOLF</title>
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            <description>...at Stanilands Boat Regatta Thorne

OK you can see it all in an Hour but you could extend your stay by having a Boat trip for £3 and there is an on Site Club

Plenty to eat and drink and things to keep the kida amused ... classic cars and a few othe bits BUT good to see a Rovers presence with a Tombola Stall last seen Thorne Summer Fete

On again tomorrow - free parking free entrance - if you are at a loose end</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Surrey Rover</title>
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            <description> philsky wrote: 
 Half time:

St Albans 0 Woking 1

This match is frankly shockingly bad and I mean hopeless / hapless kick and rush rubbish.

Every ball (every ball) is a hoof.

Not one player considers a short pass and every player who has the ball has no options bar a belt upfield.

I want to scream for them just to put a foot on the ball for a second and for a couple of players to come short to give options. Nope......hoof.

We are truly spoilt - what we see week in week out is a universe away from this.

Thank you John Ryan - we could easily have been here.

RTID 

Ditto everything you've said there Philsky only this time with regard to Crawley Town v Fleetwood. Totally lacking in any quality and £17 if you wanted to watch from the main stand £14 on the terrace, programme £3. Its not DRFC thats pricing itself out of the reach of Joe Public its football in general fuelled by vastly overpaid footballers at all levels of the game.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: DONNYWOLF</title>
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            <description> Mark DRFC wrote: 
 am i reading this right?

the winner was a horse called markab????

i didnt look at the other runners just backed doncaster rover my name is Mark A**** B***** ffs i cant believe this :( 

Wait for s bit of cut in the ground .... either after rain or Mark A...B...'s tears have watered the Course</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Irish Branch</title>
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            <description>It was a crap match, LG came on as a 70 odd min sub, scored, did 1 good run, and was named NPower man of the match.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description>I might just go and leave Doncaster all together.. oh, hang on a minute!!! :) :) :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description> racecourse red wrote: 
 yer woz at frickley , marines 3rd goal woz a cracker and the guy who scored it looked really good !!! 

Yeah, disappointed with Frickley though. They conceded three goals, one of which was a penalty and two others came from bad defensive errors, though you cannot take away the quality of Marine's finishing.

Worth the trip anyway!! I've certainly had less fruitful afternoons watching football at that level.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: racecourse red</title>
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            <description>yer woz at frickley , marines 3rd goal woz a cracker and the guy who scored it looked really good !!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: BLIR</title>
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            <description> Nudga wrote: 
 I can see it kicking off near me as well (Scawsby), there are these little twats on mopeds that scream around at stupid o clock in our cul de sac. They then doss about on the local park and smash as many beer bottles as they can and leave vaious drugs paraphanalia lying about. Great place to bring up my little lads. 

Can't possibly condone the following (ahem!) but I've seen it work:

Get a gang of mates (or a couple of big ones) that are not from the area and will not be recognised afterwards. Get them to park up a way off and ambush the kids on foot. Give one or two of them a bit of a slap (or a bit more, depending on their response) and threaten them with a lot more if said anti social behaviour continues.

Kids will be scared off, and will have no idea who instigated the assault.

Point to note - the guys would have to live up to their promise to dish up more slaps if needed, empty promises mean nothing.

Clearly I am not going to condone violence, but sometime these pricks only understand one way. If the safety of my kids was at risk I would do whatever was necessary to rectify the problem, and sometimes a pre-emptive strike is an effective tool!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108752</link>
            <description>yeah your rite juice, lets just hope there not back tonight though,</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: DRFCDANNY</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108533#108751</link>
            <description>LEGEND!!!  :scarf:</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:47:46 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108698#108750</link>
            <description> Superspy wrote: 
 in a way i hope the frickley game is equally as bad, i couldnt be arsed to go in the end. lol 

It was a strange game. Low on quality, but high on incident. The incompetent referee made things fun as well. No cards shown in the first 70-75 minutes and then two red cards in the end.

Them Sarf Elmsall ruffans dun't half mince tha words either, a tell thee!</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:45:57 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: jucyberry</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108749</link>
            <description>Thing is, you did the right thing.. At least you are here to post about it. More and more the papers are full of people who confront these little devils and die for a piece if replaceable property.. I'm sure your lady would rather have you than a fence panel.
Cops are useless, their hands are tied cos kids today have more rights than any adult.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: Ten Mile Banker</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108748</link>
            <description>7th</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:12:45 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Dickie Dido</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108747</link>
            <description>To be honest I used to like French Knickers before my eye sight deteriorated.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:26:11 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108698#108746</link>
            <description>in a way i hope the frickley game is equally as bad, i couldnt be arsed to go in the end. lol</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:03:01 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: philsky</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108698#108745</link>
            <description>Half time:

St Albans 0 Woking 1

This match is frankly shockingly bad and I mean hopeless / hapless kick and rush rubbish.

Every ball (every ball) is a hoof.

Not one player considers a short pass and every player who has the ball has no options bar a belt upfield.

I want to scream for them just to put a foot on the ball for a second and for a couple of players to come short to give options. Nope......hoof.

We are truly spoilt - what we see week in week out is a universe away from this.

Thank you John Ryan - we could easily have been here.

RTID</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:56:15 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: dfo2010</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108744</link>
            <description>so where did rover finish ?</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:52:41 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108743</link>
            <description>And you all have a pop at Stainforth, seems the so called well to do areas are just as bad, if not worse  :-D</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:51:50 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: Mark DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108742</link>
            <description>am i reading this right?

the winner was a horse called markab????

i didnt look at the other runners just backed doncaster rover my name is Mark A**** B***** ffs i cant believe this :(</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:51:42 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: 5minstogo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108741</link>
            <description> Nudga wrote: 
 I can see it kicking off near me as well (Scawsby), there are these little twats on mopeds that scream around at stupid o clock in our cul de sac. They then doss about on the local park and smash as many beer bottles as they can and leave vaious drugs paraphanalia lying about. Great place to bring up my little lads. 

We've had a similar problem near us at top end of Scawthorpe. Kid who lives opposite had one of these bikes, riding round in pitch black with no lights or helmet, tax, licence. Was magic last week when the police pulled up in a van and took it off him.

Keep a written record of any anti-social uisance behaviour and give it to the police administering the local Safer Neighbourhood Team, better than nothing I guess.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:49:14 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: mushRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108740</link>
            <description>bloody hell, better hope footy bet comes in</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:44:36 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: donnyplant</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108739</link>
            <description>lol, did say it was only an e/w. Only 2 lengths off though, and a 20-1 came third so maybe better luck next time!</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:43:51 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108738</link>
            <description>still running.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:41:41 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: jonrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108690#108737</link>
            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 I might pop and see Terrorvision 


Terrorvision! I thought they split years ago. I might go through later just to see them.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:38:52 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: donnyplant</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108736</link>
            <description>now 16/1</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:24:33 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108735</link>
            <description> Superspy wrote: 
 i found the bit about being in a back room with a vikette quite funny. 

Yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah but HOW does the Pot-Hunting Judas know about the Vikettes? 

Has he been sneaking into the Keepmoat clandestine-like over this last couple of years to watch the sumptuous football served up by the club of the town of his birth, while the far-off heroes that he'd previously hitched his wagon to were wallowing in the lower league swamps?</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:14:40 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:FAO Gartom - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108065#108734</link>
            <description>JR's comments in the Free Press have stirred up a bit of feeling, which I'm sure is reflected in recent threads.

Are you meeting JR soon ? I hope so because something needs to be done soon otherwise the goodwill between fans and club can only deteriorate and have another negative effect on attendances.

If there is a good time for the club to respond to fans needs, it's now. A lot of damage can be repaired.

The 'Game Plan' or 'Flexi Ticket', call it what we will, will provide that compromise that will assist and encourage fans to buy advance tickets and please, make sure they price it correctly.

If I can help in anyway Gareth, let me know.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:07:27 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Racing Tip - Doncaster Rover E/W 3:35 Haydock - by: donnyplant</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108733#108733</link>
            <description>As the title says, had a call from a friend who is in the know, thought i'd share it, its 25/1, don't blame me if it doesn't come in... but i've put £50 e/w on it!  :P</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:03:44 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Sandy Lane</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108732</link>
            <description>Would this work at all? Seems that all sports have been hit with lower sales of season tickets as well as individual games. As I overheard at work, this is what the Yankees have instituted to fill seats and help certain groups of people to attend some games. Particularly of note is the section for $5 tickets for seniors and select games (minus the Vikette, mind you) as WV has suggested!!!  :-)  

http://mlb.mlb.com yy/ticketing/specials.jsp</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:46:31 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: roversdude</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108533#108731</link>
            <description>guess I'm showing my age Bob</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:39:07 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: roversdude</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108730</link>
            <description>class its got to be zigga zagga for me</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:37:57 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108729</link>
            <description>I can see it kicking off near me as well (Scawsby), there are these little twats on mopeds that scream around at stupid o clock in our cul de sac. They then doss about on the local park and smash as many beer bottles as they can and leave vaious drugs paraphanalia lying about. Great place to bring up my little lads.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:31:40 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:bets for today - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108713#108728</link>
            <description>iv got a lucky 15 on the following teams to be winning at half time and win the match.

aldershot
burton
macclesfield
stevenage

and a heinze (57 bets) on these teams winning

mk dons (woohoo :D)
notts county
oldham
southampton
huddersfield
wednesday</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:28:56 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108727</link>
            <description> Superspy wrote: 
  Nudga wrote: 
 So what, he's in a lower division and it's not like he's gonna be a 20 goal a season hero. 

he could be if he keeps this form up, haha 

I very much doubt that. His &quot;form&quot; will last about another two games.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:28:11 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108726</link>
            <description> Nudga wrote: 
 Seriously though, it seems like a lot of football fans (not just the Donny fans) are getting pissed off with how modern football has become. Man Utd fans are planning more demo's against their board, Middlesboro' fans are voting with their feet as are QPR. I just wish a few clubs would take the lead and start looking after the fans more and reigning in the players/agents wages. Sadly, this ain't going to happen until the arse falls out of football. 

I reckon it will all come to a head pretty soon. Football simply cannot keep on the way it's going.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:28:03 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108725</link>
            <description> Nudga wrote: 
 So what, he's in a lower division and it's not like he's gonna be a 20 goal a season hero. 

he could be if he keeps this form up, haha</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:26:57 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Savvy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108724</link>
            <description>You seen him in training? wow!</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:26:27 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108723</link>
            <description>would of done mate but had a few glasses of red before ritering</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:26:17 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108722</link>
            <description>Is there a trick in getting the Police to come out to a crime?</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:24:02 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108721</link>
            <description>So what, he's in a lower division and it's not like he's gonna be a 20 goal a season hero.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:23:39 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108720</link>
            <description>Seriously though, it seems like a lot of football fans (not just the Donny fans) are getting pissed off with how modern football has become. Man Utd fans are planning more demo's against their board, Middlesboro' fans are voting with their feet as are QPR. I just wish a few clubs would take the lead and start looking after the fans more and reigning in the players/agents wages. Sadly, this ain't going to happen until the arse falls out of football.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:22:26 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:bets for today - by: mushRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108713#108719</link>
            <description>Hudds
Southampton
Sheff Wed

Bradford
Barnet
Chesterfield

£5 pays around £320 i think it was.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:22:06 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:fence kickers - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108718</link>
            <description>If it happens again, let them think they've got away. Get in the car, drive the long way round to approach from the rear (as it were). Get out of car, administer beating to group starting with the biggest first.

Simples  :)</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:21:07 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:bets for today - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108713#108717</link>
            <description>Started mine yesterday, and already lost. All 5 in and only Portugal let me down by conceding in the 88th minute. Damn those kiddy stealing gits</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:19:56 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Lewis Guy - by: mushRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108716</link>
            <description>Cant wait for the debate to come.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:19:43 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Lewis Guy - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108715#108715</link>
            <description>Scores winner for MK Dons.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:18:36 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108714</link>
            <description>I've been in the hallowed offices upstairs at the KM a few times and seen Dave in his office next to reception. He always looks bored shitless as do many in the main office bit. I've seen more work in a village full of Mexicans, to be honest</description>
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            <title>Subject: bets for today - by: Mark DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108713#108713</link>
            <description>Anyone having a flutter on the lower leagues?

ive just won a few quid with lewis guy to score the last goal for MKdons 

Peterborough @ evens
Southampton @ 4/9
Oldham v Bristol Rovers
Draw @ 12/5
Notts County @ 4/5
Huddersfield @ 4/6
Carlisle v Swindon
Draw @ 12/5 

£3.45 gets £345.64</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:15:54 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108690#108712</link>
            <description>I might pop and see Terrorvision</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:13:44 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: fence kickers - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108711#108711</link>
            <description>at 3.30 this morning a group of mindless morons decided to kick the shite out of 3 panels of my garden fence,smashing them to bits.me the mrs n kids were all woken by this .wot the fcuks going on im thinking as im stumbling down the stairs half asleep,out onto the street i go to be  greeted by said morons shouting abuse at me from about 500yds .none of them were brave enough to come back and explain themselves.all i got was come down here old man(im 44)well kick your fcuking head in!.dont you dare! said the mrs,the police are on the way.one hour ten minutes later they arrive.e, sprotbroughs not like it used to be!.    :thumbdown:</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:10:25 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108567#108710</link>
            <description>Ed Balls would not have got anywhere without his 'king of swing' uncle, that was...

Airey.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108709</link>
            <description>Me neither, he's probably doing a Phil Mitchell in Balby flats, smacked off his tits on brown and cheap cider.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:09:20 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108708</link>
            <description>Unfortunately Nudga, I doubt head dog Dave Morris is out with his homeys and bitch's sussing out the vibe and the word on the street.</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:02:37 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108707</link>
            <description>I think most of us are suggesting that they are slightly losing touch with what's happening on the streets. Have they taken their fingers off the pulse? Are they keeping their ears to the ground?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108706</link>
            <description>The message I saw (in a light hearted way) was that we all think we are Keynes, Smith, Malthus plus some modern day Alan Sugars, Dragons Dens etc etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,and the successful proven businessmen of TB, DW and JR are merely cavemen.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rover - by: rovgers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108701#108705</link>
            <description>Thought the same Nov 2005 against Villa and we all know what happened that evening! Happy Days :)</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:47:50 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rover - by: bobbymax</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108701#108704</link>
            <description>Can't see him having much chance at this level but you never know.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rover - by: mushRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108701#108703</link>
            <description>Just stuck £2.50 each way as preperation for my annual days racing next saturday.

Come on lad.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rover - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108701#108702</link>
            <description>iv just had a quid each way on him :D

and a 10p each way double with donny to beat watford, haha.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Doncaster Rover - by: rovgers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108701#108701</link>
            <description>Runs in the Betfred Sprint Cup 3.35 Haydock looks up against it but at 25/1 with Corals  couple a quid each way me thinks!</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:29:35 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108690#108700</link>
            <description>Nope, not a strong line up this year at all, has been much better in the past.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Non League Day - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108698#108699</link>
            <description>I'm off to the delights of South Elmsall to watch Frickley, something different that's for sure.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Non League Day - by: philsky</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108698#108698</link>
            <description>Off to see some powerhouse non-league stuff today.

St Albans City vs Woking.

Seen us lose at Woking a couple of times mind.

RTID</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108697</link>
            <description> macca_the_rover wrote: 
 Lost the plot this smc. Pitch is gonna be wrecked! Sod a community stadium, waste of time!
And Paul Sheehan is to blame! 

please read the whole thread.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108696</link>
            <description>i found the bit about being in a back room with a vikette quite funny.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108695</link>
            <description>Am I the only one who got that it was a joke, but didn't find it very funny?</description>
            <pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:27:03 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Cat A, B. Yes. Cat C? - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108652#108694</link>
            <description> roverstillidie91 wrote: 
 Why dont the sun or something do an facebook protest on wages and ticket prices so it gets good publicity feedback cos the wages and ticket prices are becoming a joke. Rovers in my opinion arent ever going to get to a point like when we play swansea palace teams like that where we are going to fill some of the away stand with our fans. 


Let`s hope you don`t get to write the article eh?  ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108693</link>
            <description>And they say the Britush have the best sense of humour in the world. 

Must be some reight po-faced tears in Belgium then.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Cat A, B. Yes. Cat C? - by: roverstillidie91</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108652#108692</link>
            <description>Why dont the sun or something do an facebook protest on wages and ticket prices so it gets good publicity feedback cos the wages and ticket prices are becoming a joke. Rovers in my opinion arent ever going to get to a point like when we play swansea palace teams like that where we are going to fill some of the away stand with our fans.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Live - by: knockers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108690#108691</link>
            <description>me</description>
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            <title>Subject: Doncaster Live - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108690#108690</link>
            <description>Who's going?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: macca_the_rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108689</link>
            <description>Lost the plot this smc. Pitch is gonna be wrecked! Sod a community stadium, waste of time!
And Paul Sheehan is to blame!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108688</link>
            <description>Titchy Stridy? Alright, who's she when she's at home then.

No wonder the concert isn't going to be in the stadium... there'd be no fcuker there!  :-D 

You'd get more at a Buxton reserve team game!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: mushRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108687</link>
            <description> Sheepskin Stu wrote: 
 Who's up for storming the main reception at the Forest game? If we can get 50 lads holding up rude placards and uncomplimentary effigies of Morris it will make people sit up and take notice. The time has come for direct action.  We have a right to peaceful protest. I can hire a megaphone.  
If Gareth wants to be the first over the threshold then I won't hold him back. Let's turn the VSC into a guerilla organisation. The time for talking has ended. 

Leave your keyboards at home! 

 :-D  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108686</link>
            <description> adge wrote: 
 as used by hull city last season 

ooooorrrrrr as used by DRFC this season....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108685</link>
            <description>Gotta be Zigga Zagga!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108684</link>
            <description> Sheepskin Stu wrote: 
 Who's up for storming the main reception at the Forest game? If we can get 50 lads holding up rude placards and uncomplimentary effigies of Morris it will make people sit up and take notice. The time has come for direct action. We have a right to peaceful protest. I can hire a megaphone. 

If Gareth wants to be the first over the threshold then I won't hold him back. Let's turn the VSC into a guerilla organisation. The time for talking has ended. 

Leave your keyboards at home!  :-D  :-D Viva La Revolution!!! :-D  :-D  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108683</link>
            <description>Is it her who was at the Sheffield Tramlines festival thing?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Savvy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108543#108682</link>
            <description> Exiled in Wiltshire wrote: 
  PDX_Rover wrote: 
 Saw the highlights of Derby at the weekend.  Greeny was central to a lot of the good stuff they did.

Wish we had him back. 

Why do you wish we had him back? What would he add to our midfield now? If we had him back, who would you drop from the Hull game - Stock? Gillett? You can't say Woods or Oster cos he's not that sort of player. Perhaps he was central to a lot of the good stuff Derby did because the rest of Derby's midfield is not as good, whereas I believe ours is, and then some.

I liked Greeny when he was with us, but he took the decision to move on so let him go. 

Of course, if he wants to come back on suitable wages, he'd be a good squad member  ;) 

So you wouldn't have him back in the team based on a sample size of one game...how erudite!

As for Greeny taking the decision, the decision had already been taken for him!

As for yesterdays game I thought he took time to start, but grew into it as it went on. He gave the ball away in a couple of dangerous positions but he also made a couple of important tackles. He always looked to off load the ball rather than take it forward himself, but as he grows in confidence I'm sure that will come!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Cat A, B. Yes. Cat C? - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108652#108681</link>
            <description>The truth is football fans across the country are being ripped off at all levels, whether it be Premier League or Championship, or League Two down to the regional divisions of the non-league pyramid.

Despite the recession of the past few years, football always operates out of the boundaries and has its own financial circle. It did during the recession in the early 90's and it did through this one. What is most worrying is that I suspect most clubs at the minute have wage bills that increase every season, yet despite that, high ticket prices will mean income from supporters will start to decline every season. Ultimately, the clubs make up this shortfall with TV money, so is it a case of money and TV rights destroying the game of football? Are Sky to blame?

Rovers lowering their own prices would achieve nothing in the bigger picture. It needs a national push by every fan base and every club to apply a sensible pricing strategy. Sadly, football in general and common sense is something that has been missing for years!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Rovin Reporter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108680</link>
            <description> Wellington Vaults wrote: 
 Well, I have just received my ticket for the away end at the Donny v Leeds United game.  £28……. TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS!!!.

I feel betrayed by John Ryan.  How dare he charge such an exorbitant amount if he hopes to continue to entice the “Donny Whites” down to the KMS?  Doesn’t he know that there is a recession on?  Hasn’t he got kids? Well I for one am going to make a stand and I won’t be visiting again until next season AT THE VERY EARLIEST. Where's that Facebook page?

It’s just not good enough, it really isn’t.  I’ve half a mind to formulate a marketing plan and send it to JR in order to enlighten him.  I may suggest a new tariff of £5 a ticket plus a gesture by the club of, say, 20 minutes in the back room of the Corner Pin with a Vikette of my choice.  How on earth, as a market-aware businessman, hasn’t he thought of this before?  It’s so simple.  And then he can re-build the away end and be guaranteed a stampede of traitorous, knuckle-dragging scum, eager to queue for 48 hours just for the privilege of a ticket.

Economics is just so simple.  I mean, anybody would think that JR has a basic knowledge of market forces and how to run a successful business, when t’Rovers revenue stream can be doubled overnight by means of an indignant rant on the VSC Forum. I bet he has never even heard of economic modelling. 
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What a deluded man he must be. 

It may not have occurred to you that the club is skint, and to make some games cheaper it has to off-set that, by making Cat A more expensive every club in the league is trying to survive , we are fortunate not to be in debt , but J/R &amp; co need to be causes  and balance things out for the good of the finances of the club, i would be more concerned that we do not have any money for new players not a few extra quid for the odd match.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Exiled in Wiltshire</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108679</link>
            <description> donnyplant wrote: 
 http://www.keepmoatstadium.com/

the big name has been announced it seems, it  tichy stridy ! not for me like but maybe for some of your kids! 

Any relation to Tinchy Stryder? Come on ... get down wid da kidz man.

Or perhaps it is &quot;Tichy Stridy&quot;, a tribute band who comes on stage wearing really small trousers?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Exiled in Wiltshire</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108543#108678</link>
            <description> PDX_Rover wrote: 
 Saw the highlights of Derby at the weekend.  Greeny was central to a lot of the good stuff they did.

Wish we had him back. 

Why do you wish we had him back? What would he add to our midfield now? If we had him back, who would you drop from the Hull game - Stock? Gillett? You can't say Woods or Oster cos he's not that sort of player. Perhaps he was central to a lot of the good stuff Derby did because the rest of Derby's midfield is not as good, whereas I believe ours is, and then some.

I liked Greeny when he was with us, but he took the decision to move on so let him go. 

Of course, if he wants to come back on suitable wages, he'd be a good squad member  ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Cat A, B. Yes. Cat C? - by: Rovin Reporter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108652#108677</link>
            <description>They could yes, but why pay for a season ticket , when the club is just under mining it's own pricing policy. the club is now going through what they always new ,  not a big enough fan base. CAT C is what ALL tickets should priced at , but there would be NO money to pay the wages or the £1m  rent for the stadium .I do believe that pay on the day would help a great number of floating fans to attend .</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108676</link>
            <description>Who's up for storming the main reception at the Forest game? If we can get 50 lads holding up rude placards and uncomplimentary effigies of Morris it will make people sit up and take notice. The time has come for direct action. We have a right to peaceful protest. I can hire a megaphone. 

If Gareth wants to be the first over the threshold then I won't hold him back. Let's turn the VSC into a guerilla organisation. The time for talking has ended. 

Leave your keyboards at home!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Glyn_Wigley</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108675</link>
            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
  redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

£29 minimum - and we'll probably be sat in the corner as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black? 

Did you actually read the OP before coming out with this gem?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108674</link>
            <description>Something has got to come to a head soon.

A CEO has a multitude of responsibilities and it's clear that DM is unable to devote enough time to marketing.

The club employs a head of marketing who is tasked with chasing the corporate pound, selling packages to local businesses, trying to sell the corporate boxes, sending leaflets to you and me asking if we would like to upgrade. Ok, they also liase with schools etc to fulfil their minimum obligation of 'football in the community'.

Thing is, the Head of Marketing reports to DM who quite frankly does not give a damn about you and me.

What makes me laugh, is the comments from JR about the punters not coming through the turnstiles. He should look around him and see where his prawn sarnie barmy army has disappeared to. 

To see the Premier seats 3/4 empty is embarrasing and those seats should be handed over to the genuine fans that he so cherishes !</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108673</link>
            <description>Right. I'll chuck £20 at the club and wait for them to tell me when Cat 1 games are. Let me think, I'll have to attend at least 7 Cat 1 games before I see any value in it. I could get a Cat B ticket at £25 anyway and go and sit where I like.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108672</link>
            <description> Muttley wrote: 
  Inspired by the increasingly diverse fabric of England, the design takes the traditional St. George’s cross and reinterprets it as a reoccurring motif in four different colours – the traditional red, blue and green which feature in England’s three lions crest, plus a blend of all three which comes out as a striking purple. 

What a load of bollocks!

 Players names will appear within the fabric, to underline how they’re a part of the fabric of modern England. 

Alternatively they could have loads of little pictures of lady bits to underline how the players are a set of cnuts. 

And the award for Post of the Week goes to...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108671</link>
            <description>But I soon will be :)

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: Shornton</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108670</link>
            <description>Not even worth a reply whoops i've replied!!!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Shornton</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108669</link>
            <description>How do you ignore a post again?????</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Viking Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108668</link>
            <description>double post syndrome strikes again and I'm not pissed.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Viking Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108667</link>
            <description>Enjoy the game WV, made me laugh anyway. I'll give thee a wave from the Prawn stand.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: hoolahoop</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108666</link>
            <description>Canute...............for true Vikings NOT CNUTS ? Sorry I'll get my coat.......</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108665</link>
            <description>Cracking Wellygogs. Just cracking! Shame some can't see the joke.

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: hoolahoop</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108664</link>
            <description>This has been an excellent thread full of many converging opinions. However it's a shame that as genuine supporters we have to point out what should be patently obvious to the Board only for it to go unnoticed once again.
Fellas until somebody gets rid of Morris once and for all..............nothing will change for the better ; I wonder when the ostriches will pull their heads out of the sand and have the guts to fire this waster.
Then and only then will we have a chance to move ahead with proper marketing strategies etc.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: vaya</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108663</link>
            <description>We might be statistically 'out of recession' but by definition it's a national empirical model - it doesn't take into account regional variations, the hit the North has taken in terms of job losses and personal circumstances.

Or in toher words,  you can statistically prove it's stopped raining, but I'll still be be p1ss wet through for the next few hours.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108662</link>
            <description>For fuck sake its simple economics. We are out of recession. The positive growths each quarter kinda make that obvious. However we're in a Recovery and some time away from a Boom. Then its a downturn and recession which we can only enter provided we have a negative growth 3 (or 4 in US) quarters in a row. 



Reason why he's risen prices are because while they were low, no one was coming (well not enough) before, and hes the one funding out club. Each month he foots the bill and invests in the squad so anyone who show indignation at a lack of cash spent, why dont YOU foot the £7,000,000 bill EVERY season


When we turn up, it funds this, however if the fans dont come in, he loses more money and its painfully obvious that over time JR will think &quot;Why should I bother&quot;. Yes its his hometown club and beloved Rovers but he HAS to make something out of it to make it worthwhile to fund it. Otherwise it'll bankrupt him, hence why we have the KM2 on board to help hold it up.



Some of us havent the jobs or cash and I agree, as i am one of them, and there does need to be a comprimise of sorts between the fans and board on 'fair'



Oh and Donnywhites? How could anyone be THAT sad is beyond me</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: Florida Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108661</link>
            <description>Ryans Relief</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: nice one rovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108660</link>
            <description>The post starts with,&quot;This is not a joke&quot;, thats right, its a load of cak.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: cas rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108659</link>
            <description>could be a handbag fight over the penalty taking
if it were to happen</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:aspiring football ? - by: Pintolager</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108656#108658</link>
            <description>I am also going to Chessies new ground tomorrow seeing as Rovers aren't playing this weekend.

It's boring when Donny aren't playing!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:52:36 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: adge</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108657</link>
            <description>as used by hull city last season</description>
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            <title>Subject: aspiring football ? - by: cas rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108656#108656</link>
            <description>not going to miss a chance to see chesterfields new ground
going to watch the spireites sat 4th
versus lincoln
come on you spires :-D     :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: vaya</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108655</link>
            <description> MrFrost wrote: 
  Wellington Vaults wrote: 
 Well, I have just received my ticket for the away end at the Donny v Leeds United game.  £28……. TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS!!!.

I feel betrayed by John Ryan.  How dare he charge such an exorbitant amount if he hopes to continue to entice the “Donny Whites” down to the KMS?  Doesn’t he know that there is a  recession on ?  Hasn’t he got kids? Well I for one am going to make a stand and I won’t be visiting again until next season AT THE VERY EARLIEST. Where's that Facebook page?

It’s just not good enough, it really isn’t.  I’ve half a mind to formulate a marketing plan and send it to JR in order to enlighten him.  I may suggest a new tariff of £5 a ticket plus a gesture by the club of, say, 20 minutes in the back room of the Corner Pin with a Vikette of my choice.  How on earth, as a market-aware businessman, hasn’t he thought of this before?  It’s so simple.  And then he can re-build the away end and be guaranteed a stampede of traitorous, knuckle-dragging scum, eager to queue for 48 hours just for the privilege of a ticket.

Economics is just so simple.  I mean, anybody would think that JR has a basic knowledge of market forces and how to run a successful business, when t’Rovers revenue stream can be doubled overnight by means of an indignant rant on the VSC Forum. I bet he has never even heard of economic modelling. 

What a deluded man he must be. 

There is no recession &quot;on&quot; and hasn't been for eight month. If you're going to use something to put your argument across, please get your facts right. 

He's right - as soon as one statistical model reasoned we were out of recession fivers started pouring through my letterbox. I've had to tape the thing up just to be able to use the front door.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: Padge_DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108654</link>
            <description>Membership scheme.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:19:03 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: PDX_Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108543#108653</link>
            <description>Saw the highlights of Derby at the weekend.  Greeny was central to a lot of the good stuff they did.

Wish we had him back.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Cat A, B. Yes. Cat C? - by: Padge_DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108652#108652</link>
            <description>Are there any plans this season for there to be ticket prices cheaper than Cat B ticket prices for the games that won't attract as many fans? 

Or is it simply A and B this season?</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:16:37 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DN5Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108651</link>
            <description>If as reputed the KMS costs DRFC £1 million P/A, based on last years total attendances it cost £3.95 per ticket sold just to pay the rent.
Not that cheap really. By the way these are only approx figures</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108650</link>
            <description>And I see that England won 4-0 tonight!

How many people will fall into the trap of believing Capello is wonderful, only to frantically change their opinion when the time of the 2012 European Championships arrive. 

It'll all end in tears, just like last time!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: DaveDRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108649</link>
            <description> scuzzer wrote: 
 Another attempt from the tossers to exploit the fans. For years they've brought the new kit out alternating between home and away on St Georges Day, now it seems when apathy has never been greater towards the corporate whores in white they decide to throw a new home kit out 4 months after the new away kit and 8 months before it was due by their own 'rules'. 

Couldn't agree more, I usually buy the new England shirt on release day but this takes the piss. As you say they used to release a new shirt on St George's Day every year, home one year and away the next so each shirt lasted 2 years. They then began to edge the change earlier and earlier to coincide with when England were playing (I think the new red one came out in March when we played Egypt) but this is just ridiculous! I definitely won't be buying it, although I might buy a few of the 'old' one for my 5 a side team when they are flogging it for a fiver a time!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Irish Branch</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108648</link>
            <description> Thinwhiteduke wrote: 
  Irish Branch wrote: 
  vaya wrote: 
 On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket?

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from? 

Try to remember that Sky subscription covers much more than &quot;Premiership&quot; football, and is payable over 12 (monthly) instalments. I recently spoke to &quot;Sky&quot; to cancel all with them, you know what, i got &quot;FREE&quot; sky for 3 months, half price sport package for a year after that, its fair to say i wont cancel for at least a year now.
Also remember Sky subs is the household , so as many as can cram into room can watch, as opposed to one can view per season ticket. 

Try also to remeber that Sky are the primary cause of all that is wrong with football in this country.

Ive just cancelled my service with them full stop, despite them offering ot give me much of what you've mentioned above. Best decision Ive made in a long time. 

Sky covers all of europe, are they to blame for EVERYTHING that you deem wrong. They are in germany, is the Bundersleague overpriced, not a bit of it. What is wrong with football in UK is UK made, paying players exhorbitant amounts in Premiership, which inevitably filters down the leagues.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108647</link>
            <description> Wellington Vaults wrote: 
 Well, I have just received my ticket for the away end at the Donny v Leeds United game.  £28……. TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS!!!.

I feel betrayed by John Ryan.  How dare he charge such an exorbitant amount if he hopes to continue to entice the “Donny Whites” down to the KMS?  Doesn’t he know that there is a  recession on ?  Hasn’t he got kids? Well I for one am going to make a stand and I won’t be visiting again until next season AT THE VERY EARLIEST. Where's that Facebook page?

It’s just not good enough, it really isn’t.  I’ve half a mind to formulate a marketing plan and send it to JR in order to enlighten him.  I may suggest a new tariff of £5 a ticket plus a gesture by the club of, say, 20 minutes in the back room of the Corner Pin with a Vikette of my choice.  How on earth, as a market-aware businessman, hasn’t he thought of this before?  It’s so simple.  And then he can re-build the away end and be guaranteed a stampede of traitorous, knuckle-dragging scum, eager to queue for 48 hours just for the privilege of a ticket.

Economics is just so simple.  I mean, anybody would think that JR has a basic knowledge of market forces and how to run a successful business, when t’Rovers revenue stream can be doubled overnight by means of an indignant rant on the VSC Forum. I bet he has never even heard of economic modelling. 

What a deluded man he must be. 

There is no recession &quot;on&quot; and hasn't been for eight month. If you're going to use something to put your argument across, please get your facts right.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108646</link>
            <description> redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

£29 minimum - and we'll probably be sat in the corner as well.

Pot. Kettle. Black?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: Chris</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108645</link>
            <description>http://singstarsource.com/sswf/images/smilies/facepalm2.gif</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Chris</title>
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            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
  Chris wrote: 
  BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
 
The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds. These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in politics and/or the particular field of interest to the minister

2) Hague had three special advisers.

 

Do me a favour.

As Hague is Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State he is, subject to David Cameron's approval, allowed more than two special advisers.

/thread 

Oh yeah. I forgot he was First Secretary of State. That's convenient int it? Nobody knows what it is, but it's a useful cover for Hague being able to lash out more money on advisers than other Cabinet Ministers. The Home Secretary and the Chancellor make do with 2. As did their Labour equivalents. 

But Hague of course just HAS to have 3. Or at least he DID until folk started looking into it then hey-presto, one resigns and he CAN make do with 2 after all. 

It takes a special kind of naivety to believe that there us nothing dodgy here. 

As I say, at best, Hague is making a mockery of the Age of Austerity. YOU plebs tighten your belts. I'M going to spend tax payers' money on a making myself feel important by having more advisers than Osbourne and the like. At worst, it is criminal corruption, using tax payers' money to pay for a lover. 

If it's the first, he will survive but be damaged goods. If it's the second, it's a police matter and the end of his career. Either way,  Cameron has been stupid and shown rank bad judgement in allowing it. 

Cool story, bro.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Katesby</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108643</link>
            <description>I will most definitely be watching the Leeds game on Sky, despite being a season ticket holder since the conference days. Seems a shame to miss a game like that however I refuse to pay such prices for my ticket. Sort it JR!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108642</link>
            <description> redbrez wrote: 
 how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

i for one get great value in terms of quality of football for my st,it equates to probably twenty squid a game great value for the games i watch. 
i feel sorry for people that cant afford a st,or think that 28squid which is i presume the top end price for a ticket on a match day basis.
i too struggle to pay for my st but all it takes is for you too put away 5 to ten squid a week and you are more or less there,so start saving and you too could have great value.
if i dint save through the year i too would not be able to pay for a season ticket.
plus that's ace coming from a donny white who calls jr,have you got any mirrors bud,two words papa smurf. 

Alot of people don't have a spare £5 or £10 a week. That is the harsh reality.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: nightporter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108641</link>
            <description>Upto 92.5 % but no more.  lol</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Thinwhiteduke</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108640</link>
            <description> Irish Branch wrote: 
  vaya wrote: 
 On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket?

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from? 

Try to remember that Sky subscription covers much more than &quot;Premiership&quot; football, and is payable over 12 (monthly) instalments. I recently spoke to &quot;Sky&quot; to cancel all with them, you know what, i got &quot;FREE&quot; sky for 3 months, half price sport package for a year after that, its fair to say i wont cancel for at least a year now.
Also remember Sky subs is the household , so as many as can cram into room can watch, as opposed to one can view per season ticket. 

Try also to remeber that Sky are the primary cause of all that is wrong with football in this country.

Ive just cancelled my service with them full stop, despite them offering ot give me much of what you've mentioned above. Best decision Ive made in a long time.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: donnyplant</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108639</link>
            <description>http://www.keepmoatstadium.com/

the big name has been announced it seems, it tichy stridy! not for me like but maybe for some of your kids!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: donnyplant</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108638</link>
            <description>Its going to be held on the hill next to the keepmoat, where the romeo and juliet and james and the giant peach was. 1 big name signer/act, 1 medium name and the rest are to be small supporting groups. The big name act was recently top of the uk chart....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108637</link>
            <description> River Don wrote: 
  scuzzer wrote: 
  Snods Shinpad 2 wrote: 
  leedshayter wrote: 
 IT HAS TO BE :woot:  :thumbsup:  ZIGGA ZAGGA!!!then when anybody orders a pint of ZIGGA ZAGGA at the bar everyone in the bar SHOUTS ZIGGA ZAGGA DONCASTER, just like our chant goes zigga zagga zigga zagga doncaster!!!would get everyone in the spirit and ready for the game  :thumbsup: 

Love it. :-D 

I'm with ya on that too! 

Look no further Golden Angel, I think we have a winner, Zigga Zagga gets the thumbs up from me too. 

I hope he wins as if I had won I would have given my beer away as I can only drink Half a pint due to a liver problem!!! ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: Old Popsider</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108636</link>
            <description>For the older supporters amongst us I give you Alfie's (H)Ale.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: VixDRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108635</link>
            <description>Was told about this by a workmate today - seems the actual concert isn't going to be inside the stadium (well I'm assuming he meant this one!)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108634</link>
            <description> Why don't we do another plan???? because it took enormous time and energy and after an initial show of approval from JR it was ignored ... though I can see that one or two cherries were picked ,just for effect.But the whole question of r developing a culture in which it is NORMAL routine to have a Marketing plan with objectives , Steategies , Action Plans and Monitoring of results is STILL not DRFC culture .
Until we have a Chief Execuive who believes in that sort of disciplined planning process and who has the devil in his heart and passion coursing through his veins .... the FANS FORUM idea would be raped again . Employ a Jonathan or a Nathan or a young 30 year old Business Exec. with Rovers in his soul ... THEN allow him to use the Fans Forum idea as ONE of his resources . 
With today's Board , today's Team Management and a Top class Exec at the head of the business we WOULD FILL KM. 

Abso chuffin lutley !!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: DN5Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108633</link>
            <description>How can this work if we are playing the Trees that day. I am well confused. :S</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Dagenham.Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108632</link>
            <description> Dare2Dream wrote: 
  Dagenham.Rover wrote: 
 Planning + Logic + smc = idiotic 

Or could be a stroke of genius? Could mean that the SMC gets people to there events because several thousand people get to see whats happening. And no one can use the excuse of 'well I won't go because its miles away'. Likewise this 'double header' might get more Rovers fans to our game? 

arh but you'll have to get your tickets 3 weeks in advance cos theres no pay on the gate  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Dare2Dream</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108631</link>
            <description> Dagenham.Rover wrote: 
 Planning + Logic + smc = idiotic 

Or could be a stroke of genius? Could mean that the SMC gets people to there events because several thousand people get to see whats happening. And no one can use the excuse of 'well I won't go because its miles away'. Likewise this 'double header' might get more Rovers fans to our game?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: redrover19</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108533#108630</link>
            <description>40 years old who gives a f**k

great shot stopper and has kept us a game more times than we can remember

go on sully      </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: Dagenham.Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108629</link>
            <description>Planning + Logic + smc = idiotic</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: PDX_Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108628</link>
            <description> Why don't we do another plan???? because it took enormous time and energy and after an initial show of approval from JR it was ignored ... though I can see that one or two cherries were picked ,just for effect.But the whole question of r developing a culture in which it is NORMAL routine to have a Marketing plan with objectives , Steategies , Action Plans and Monitoring of results is STILL not DRFC culture .
Until we have a Chief Execuive who believes in that sort of disciplined planning process and who has the devil in his heart and passion coursing through his veins .... the FANS FORUM idea would be raped again . Employ a Jonathan or a Nathan or a young 30 year old Business Exec. with Rovers in his soul ... THEN allow him to use the Fans Forum idea as ONE of his resources . 
With today's Board , today's Team Management and a Top class Exec at the head of the business we WOULD FILL KM. 

Could not agree more Brian.  The plan is still relevant and robust.  It needs some tweaking to encompass social media but it was a labour of love for those of us who worked on it for nothing... with not a word of thanks from Rovers by the way.

Working in the marketing industry... a document like that would cost the thick end of 40k nowadays from a decent consultancy.

You can lead a horse to water.... etc.

The sad thing is - until Dave Morris is relieved of his duties and someone put in place that actually knows how to run and market a successful business (which Rovers is on the pitch), we're going to have the same arguments every season.

It galls me to think, if this plan has been implemented early in 2006, a year before we moved to the KMS, we could have an amazing thing going on off the pitch at Rovers.

I mean... a great plan was written and given to the club on a fucking plate.... and....... apart from a few token gestures.... nothing happened with it.

How messed up is that?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:just an idea - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108627</link>
            <description>lol, i honestly don't know if you're being ironic or not.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: watto-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108626</link>
            <description>pitch may be damaged again,</description>
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            <title>Subject: just an idea - by: watto-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108625#108625</link>
            <description>if the idea of increasing the prices was to take advantage of the away following, why could the club not offer home fans a loyalty card at a cost of £20 per season which entitled fans to buy £28 tickets for say £25.this would get round the rule that you have to charge away fans same as home fans in similar areas...........just an idea.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: PDX_Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108624</link>
            <description>Wow 40 downloads of the plan in 12 hours.....

I wonder how many students will be submitting that a course work.... :)

Damn, we should have made copies available to buy for 27.99.... cheaper than watching Rovers play.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108623</link>
            <description>how much will a away ticket at bellend road cost ? 

i for one get great value in terms of quality of football for my st,it equates to probably twenty squid a game great value for the games i watch. 
i feel sorry for people that cant afford a st,or think that 28squid which is i presume the top end price for a ticket on a match day basis.
i too struggle to pay for my st but all it takes is for you too put away 5 to ten squid a week and you are more or less there,so start saving and you too could have great value.
if i dint save through the year i too would not be able to pay for a season ticket.
plus that's ace coming from a donny white who calls jr,have you got any mirrors bud,two words papa smurf.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108622</link>
            <description> Wellington Vaults wrote: 
 Well, I have just received my ticket for the away end at the Donny v Leeds United game.  £28……. TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS!!!.

I feel betrayed by John Ryan.  How dare he charge such an exorbitant amount if he hopes to continue to entice the “Donny Whites” down to the KMS?  Doesn’t he know that there is a recession on?  Hasn’t he got kids? Well I for one am going to make a stand and I won’t be visiting again until next season AT THE VERY EARLIEST. Where's that Facebook page?

It’s just not good enough, it really isn’t.  I’ve half a mind to formulate a marketing plan and send it to JR in order to enlighten him.  I may suggest a new tariff of £5 a ticket plus a gesture by the club of, say, 20 minutes in the back room of the Corner Pin with a Vikette of my choice.  How on earth, as a market-aware businessman, hasn’t he thought of this before?  It’s so simple.  And then he can re-build the away end and be guaranteed a stampede of traitorous, knuckle-dragging scum, eager to queue for 48 hours just for the privilege of a ticket.

Economics is just so simple.  I mean, anybody would think that JR has a basic knowledge of market forces and how to run a successful business, when t’Rovers revenue stream can be doubled overnight by means of an indignant rant on the VSC Forum. I bet he has never even heard of economic modelling. 

What a deluded man he must be. 



Well said Wellington :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Dimples-D</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108621</link>
            <description>How anyone can cheer a team playing against their own town/city is beyond me..

Not supporting your own town/city team is bad,
but actually wanting them to lose is just sad.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: donnievic</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108561#108620</link>
            <description>Andy Rhodes,Andy Warrington

Les Robinson, JOC
Rufus Brevett, Glyn Snodin
Chris Swailes, Matt Mills, Darren Moore, Russ Wilcox, 

Neil Redfearn,Jamie Coppinger,Michael McIndoe, Kieron Brady
John Cornforth,Gary Brabin
Mark Rankine, Ian Snodin, Richie Wellens,Eddie Gormley,Brian Stock

Mike Jeffrey, Billy Sharp, Colin Cramb,Tommy Gaynor</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: DMnumber4</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108619</link>
            <description> RoversDave wrote: 
 This ones a bit scary

http://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/javaImages/a3/22/0,,10309~8987299,00.jpg 

Thats Hugo Colace's mum / sister. A striking resemblence I'd say!

http://barnsleyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Hugo-Colace-2.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108618</link>
            <description>another agree from here, hell at this point we should be trying everything to get them to listen to us. re-submit the old plan, print it 3 times and mail a copy to JR, the chief exec and the marketing manager every week until somebody takes notice, lol</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: DMnumber4</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108617</link>
            <description>It's alright W.V, for £28 a pop, I'd take the roof off and build great big railings in front of the away end. I'd only serve the p*ss water that is Fosters to your fans too!

It's a disgrace JR, way too comfy and way too cheap...booo!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Slash prices and they will come!!! - by: Wellington Vaults</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108616#108616</link>
            <description>Well, I have just received my ticket for the away end at the Donny v Leeds United game.  £28……. TWENTY EIGHT POUNDS!!!.

I feel betrayed by John Ryan.  How dare he charge such an exorbitant amount if he hopes to continue to entice the “Donny Whites” down to the KMS?  Doesn’t he know that there is a recession on?  Hasn’t he got kids? Well I for one am going to make a stand and I won’t be visiting again until next season AT THE VERY EARLIEST. Where's that Facebook page?

It’s just not good enough, it really isn’t.  I’ve half a mind to formulate a marketing plan and send it to JR in order to enlighten him.  I may suggest a new tariff of £5 a ticket plus a gesture by the club of, say, 20 minutes in the back room of the Corner Pin with a Vikette of my choice.  How on earth, as a market-aware businessman, hasn’t he thought of this before?  It’s so simple.  And then he can re-build the away end and be guaranteed a stampede of traitorous, knuckle-dragging scum, eager to queue for 48 hours just for the privilege of a ticket.

Economics is just so simple.  I mean, anybody would think that JR has a basic knowledge of market forces and how to run a successful business, when t’Rovers revenue stream can be doubled overnight by means of an indignant rant on the VSC Forum. I bet he has never even heard of economic modelling. 

What a deluded man he must be.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:W T F - by: DMnumber4</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108615</link>
            <description>W T F?

Westlife Tour Finishes...at Keepmoat   </description>
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            <title>Subject: W T F - by: watto-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108614#108614</link>
            <description>SATURDAY 2ND OCTOBER

Big announcement from keepmoat stadium...keepmoatlive 10 tickets £20.............. errrrrr we are home to forest that day should be intersting.

starts at 6pm</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: DMnumber4</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108613</link>
            <description> Alongside established names such as Rooney and  Joe Hart  

I'm a big Joe Hart fan but I wouldn't say he's established.

I agree with this most:  Yes I’m all for change etc but football has turned soft enough already and this is a step far too far. 

Too bloody true!

Why don't we bring out a England shirt wih red dye down the front similar to Terry Butcher's efforts? Comes with a free bandage.   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: bobjimwilly</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108612</link>
            <description> Players names will appear within the fabric, to underline how they’re a part of the fabric of modern England. 

 Muttley wrote: 
 Alternatively they could have loads of little pictures of lady bits to underline how the players are a set of cnuts. 

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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: bobjimwilly</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108611</link>
            <description>:headbang:  there is now! (I'm sad aren't I?)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: River Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108610</link>
            <description> scuzzer wrote: 
  Snods Shinpad 2 wrote: 
  leedshayter wrote: 
 IT HAS TO BE :woot:  :thumbsup:  ZIGGA ZAGGA!!!then when anybody orders a pint of ZIGGA ZAGGA at the bar everyone in the bar SHOUTS ZIGGA ZAGGA DONCASTER, just like our chant goes zigga zagga zigga zagga doncaster!!!would get everyone in the spirit and ready for the game  :thumbsup: 

Love it. :-D 

I'm with ya on that too! 

Look no further Golden Angel, I think we have a winner, Zigga Zagga gets the thumbs up from me too.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108609</link>
            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
  DonnyRTID wrote: 
  VikingJames wrote: 
  Superspy wrote: 
 they already do give free tickets out at schools. 

Not much good if a parent has to pay 25 quid to go with the kid. 

Jeez, it's like getting blood out of a stone with some folk. :cry: 

What?  :S 

I can only assume you've gone for the wrong similie there. 

There wasn't a banging head against a brick wall emotion.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108608</link>
            <description>I wonder how many crims are reading this thinking &quot;I might write that down, pretty good idea that&quot;   </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: Muttley</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108607</link>
            <description> Inspired by the increasingly diverse fabric of England, the design takes the traditional St. George’s cross and reinterprets it as a reoccurring motif in four different colours – the traditional red, blue and green which feature in England’s three lions crest, plus a blend of all three which comes out as a striking purple. 

What a load of bollocks!

 Players names will appear within the fabric, to underline how they’re a part of the fabric of modern England. 

Alternatively they could have loads of little pictures of lady bits to underline how the players are a set of cunts.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:02:33 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108606</link>
            <description>All the little flickers on the back of the shirt make it look like some kind of spice girls tribute shirt aimed at little five year old's.

I'll stick to watching Scotland tonight, thanks!!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:57:45 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: scuzzer</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108605</link>
            <description>Another attempt from the tossers to exploit the fans. For years they've brought the new kit out alternating between home and away on St Georges Day, now it seems when apathy has never been greater towards the corporate whores in white they decide to throw a new home kit out 4 months after the new away kit and 8 months before it was due by their own 'rules'.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:55:25 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: scuzzer</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108604</link>
            <description> Snods Shinpad 2 wrote: 
  leedshayter wrote: 
 IT HAS TO BE :woot:  :thumbsup:  ZIGGA ZAGGA!!!then when anybody orders a pint of ZIGGA ZAGGA at the bar everyone in the bar SHOUTS ZIGGA ZAGGA DONCASTER, just like our chant goes zigga zagga zigga zagga doncaster!!!would get everyone in the spirit and ready for the game  :thumbsup: 

Love it. :-D 

I'm with ya on that too!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:49:59 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: scuzzer</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108603</link>
            <description> danny1 wrote: 
 Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a 

And that achieved the grand total of about 5,200 through the gate up the road if i recall correctly!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:48:48 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: scuzzer</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108602</link>
            <description> grayx wrote: 
 Better/cheaper parking would surely help. A lot of people are not prepared to pay £5 to park their car and alternative parking areas can mean you get stuck in loads of traffic after the match (eg, Cheswolds pub). 

 :chair: awaiting the onslaught from the VSC mafia!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: adge</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108561#108601</link>
            <description>who's mike jeffrey..the bus driver ?</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:45:51 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: grayx</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108600</link>
            <description>Better/cheaper parking would surely help. A lot of people are not prepared to pay £5 to park their car and alternative parking areas can mean you get stuck in loads of traffic after the match (eg, Cheswolds pub).</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:45:29 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108509#108599</link>
            <description>If we're going to improve attendances, we need to just to consider the home crowds we have had for the last two league games as rock bottom (forget the number of away fans as that will fluctuate depending on time year, cost, distance, etc). 

At the end of the day though, you can still guarantee that if we are up at the top end of the table as we reach the business end of the season, home crowds will still go up. That is a fact!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:44:17 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Bentley Bullet</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108598</link>
            <description>Bradford city, to name one club, used to have a draw based on the seat number of which it's occupier would win a holiday for two.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:41:02 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108509#108597</link>
            <description>I think our present and newer fans need a history lesson. To be honest, i'd love a Rovers museum, wouldnt have loads in it and would cost cash but would show our pride in our history. Alick Jeffery, The Snodins, Belle Vue, League Cup Run &amp; the Leap frog up the leagues of the noughties and a sort of hall of fame. As i say, it wouldnt exactly be a moneymaker but imagine the day when one exists


However when i sit in my ,random i may add since i dont have a ST, seat at the KS and look at my team thump teams like Leeds United...I remember the days at Belle Vue on the terraces watching us concede early to Northwich Victoria, reading in the papers about Leeds chances at european glory and dreaming that Donny would beat them. Never has it been such a great time to watch the might Red and White Rovers!!!!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:37:29 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: Highland Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108567#108596</link>
            <description>Ted Heath , band leader to Prime Minister</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:35:52 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108593</link>
            <description>Another obvious idea is to discount tickets bought on match days for anyone able to show proof of unemployment. Sell 'em at 50% of face value. See what that does.

BobG</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:25:00 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: graingrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108509#108592</link>
            <description>Yep I agree ... we have got the jewels we have but it wouldn't half help if we displayed them like jewellers and not from a Fecking stall in the market . Our Team Management is top class , our Board is top class except for the blind spot they have about the Business/ Marketing side of things ( off pitch).</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:23:31 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108591</link>
            <description> leedshayter wrote: 
 IT HAS TO BE :woot:  :thumbsup:  ZIGGA ZAGGA!!!then when anybody orders a pint of ZIGGA ZAGGA at the bar everyone in the bar SHOUTS ZIGGA ZAGGA DONCASTER, just like our chant goes zigga zagga zigga zagga doncaster!!!would get everyone in the spirit and ready for the game  :thumbsup: 

Love it. :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108590</link>
            <description>IT HAS TO BE :woot:  :thumbsup:  ZIGGA ZAGGA!!!then when anybody orders a pint of ZIGGA ZAGGA at the bar everyone in the bar SHOUTS ZIGGA ZAGGA DONCASTER, just like our chant goes zigga zagga zigga zagga doncaster!!!would get everyone in the spirit and ready for the game  :thumbsup:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: Bentley Bullet</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108567#108589</link>
            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
 

William Hague's great-grandad, Iron Hague, the boxer from Meccy. It appears that getting battered in the ring by fit young men runs in the family. 

 The Conservative member for Richmond will take the brunt for any misdemeanours by gay members of the party from now on.  Any mistakes they make will automatically link Hague to them, and it will be a question of their cock up - His arse. 
Expenses scandal MP Margaret Beckett tells a similar story regarding what happened to her great, great, great, great Grandad.......Thomas  o’.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rover - by: DONNYWOLF</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108539#108588</link>
            <description>... as much as 25/1 at Ladbrokes and it did win last time out BUT (and I am no expert) this is a Group 1 Race so that represents a bigger challenge - and last time I think the going was Soft or good to soft ... so the going might be against it too

... but good luck to it anyway</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108587</link>
            <description>totally agree graingrover. come on jr you know it makes sense :)</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:06:53 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: graingrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108586</link>
            <description>Why don't we do another plan???? because it took enormous time and energy and after an initial show of approval from JR it was ignored ... though I can see that one or two cherries were picked ,just for effect.But the whole question of r developing a culture in which it is NORMAL routine to have a Marketing plan with objectives , Steategies , Action Plans and Monitoring of results is STILL not DRFC culture .
 Until we have a Chief Execuive who believes in that sort of disciplined planning process and who has the devil in his heart and passion coursing through his veins .... the FANS FORUM idea would be raped again . Employ a Jonathan or a Nathan or a young 30 year old Business Exec. with Rovers in his soul ... THEN allow him to use the Fans Forum  idea as ONE of his resources . 
 With today's Board , today's Team Management and a Top class Exec at the head of the business we WOULD FILL KM.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:01:51 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: GM-MarkB</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108567#108585</link>
            <description>Tony Blair's skill at dancing round a subject must surely have come from his Old man.....Lionel Blair  :-D</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:56:47 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: donnievic</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108561#108584</link>
            <description>put mine up shortly,just waiting for clarence for who doesnt meet to be in the squad with being under 21 and may have to put sum on standby in case anyone drops out injured</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:44:09 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: Jim Dobbin</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108583</link>
            <description>We are that shit now they've even allowed a woman in the team  :-D</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:38:42 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Relatively famous - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108567#108582</link>
            <description>George Osbourne's dad, Ozzy.

George must be a big disappointment to his dad. Imagine being a sober, sensible, rational human being and spawning a raving head-case like that.

William Hague's great-grandad, Iron Hague, the boxer from Meccy. It appears that getting battered in the ring by fit young men runs in the family.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:37:33 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: GM-MarkB</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108581</link>
            <description>Woah hang on....have we had the 'last' one that long   </description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:35:37 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108580</link>
            <description> BLIR wrote: 

 What a sad world we live in? 

Aye.

One where easily duped folk get worked up into an eggy lather over urban myths while not giving a fuck about what really does matter.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/crime/a/eggs_windshield_crime_alert.htm</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: leedshayter</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108533#108579</link>
            <description>hes a true pro our sulli,we are lucky to have the fellow.scottish keepers have been good for us over the years who remembers boydie???  </description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:16:53 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108578</link>
            <description>What a sad world we live in?</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:08:31 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: donnybez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108577</link>
            <description>Then why dont we submit another marketing plan with a list of names of fans who agree to content? If we get a substantial number of fans, logically it would help the club understand the amount of us who feel this path we're going on isn't the right one for the town



John, think it through, there is going to be TV camara's at the Keepmoat. Do you want them to show images of a half empty stadium or one full of a carnival atmosphere, red and white shirts and what pundits will write as a fantastic night in general

We play the right way on the pitch, lets do so off it too</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The England Kit - A New Order - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108576</link>
            <description>Not bad I guess. 

Can't help thinking the shirt would look better with four or five red, elongated, horizontal rectangles, stretching from front to back though.

(and a Viking logo instead of those daft lions).</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:01:51 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:WARNING - by: dfo2010</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108575</link>
            <description>worth a bump !!</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:59:10 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108543#108574</link>
            <description>FIA = Find an Irishman Anywhere</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:55:28 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108573</link>
            <description>Is this 'wage budget' simply that for the players? Or does it also cover all the other staff? SOD? ROK? Physios? Cooks? Admin generally? Marketing??!!

If it covers those as well then that'll be a sizeable chunk just on none playing staff.

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: ctay</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108561#108572</link>
            <description>oh balls just saw that! I thought KB played both midfield and up top?

Might try a worst 25 as well...but would have to discount Richardson era!</description>
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            <title>Subject: The England Kit - A New Order - by: River Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108571#108571</link>
            <description>Well at least Mr Saville has brought back the blue shorts. We haven't seen anything like that colour blue since the days of Keegan and Brooking though. 

http://blog.umbro.com/2010/09/01/the-new-fabric-of-england-tailored-by-umbro/</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108533#108570</link>
            <description>Ooh! That's reserved for the VERY best - over a long time. Next season? If he's still there?

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: WARNING - by: watto-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108569#108569</link>
            <description>This is not a joke. Originator was at a crimewatch meeting on 18th and
the police requested this was sent out.
 
Worth Passing On! 
 
This is happening now!
 
Sad, especially if you are inclined to 'help' people...
 
While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw
an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over
it. For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of
thoughts running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I
called the Police and they were going to check it out. But, this is what
the Police advised even before they went out there to check....
 
&quot;There are several things to be aware of ... gangs and thieves are now
plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women)to stop their
vehicle and get out of the car.
 
&quot;There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police where gangs are
placing a car seat by the road...with a fake baby in  it...waiting for a
woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby. 
 
&quot;Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or
grassy (field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the
woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If it's a man,
they're usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.
 
DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!!
 
DIAL 9-9-9
 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DON'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.
 
&quot;IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSCREEN, DO
NOT STOP TO CHECK THE CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPER AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY
WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY AND BLOCK YOUR VISION
UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME
A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.
 
THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND
RELATIVES.
 
THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVOURY INDIVIDUALS/SHIT
STAINS WHO WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT.&quot;
 
 Please talk to your loved ones about this. This is a new tactic used.
Please be safe. 
 
Get started NOW -- SEND THIS MESSAGE TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES
TO BE CAREFUL AND AWARE OF EVERYTHING AROUND THEM SO AS NOT TO BECOME A
VICTIM.</description>
            <pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:37:28 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: BobG</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108568</link>
            <description>Easily obtainable and reasonably cheapish sources, start with getting reasonably regular copies of the Telegraph and the Guardian. Both are intelligent and both try to illustrate situations and consequences by refernece to facts and trends - rather than the emotional, illiterate, knee jerk claptrap of folk like Boomstick. with these two paperrs on the opposite sides of the political divide, over time you can start to contrast opinion, how selectively used facts distort truths and how differing opionions are perfectly rational.

Cheers

BobG</description>
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            <title>Subject: Relatively famous - by: Bentley Bullet</title>
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            <description>Many famous people become politicians, usually using their fame to get into politics, but how many politicians are there who use famous relatives to become politicians?
Two recent ones who spring to mind are David and Ed Miliband.
Would there careers have taken off so well had it not been for musician relatives Glenn miliband, and Steve Miliband?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: donnievic</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108561#108566</link>
            <description> ctay wrote: 
 Ok, its international weekend. So just to get you thinking, try getting a 25 man rovers squad from over the years (however long you have been watching). Rules are only 3 current players and only five more players who are currently playing league football, but not with us anymore.

Here goes:

Gk   Andy Rhodes, Paul Crichton, Andy Warrington
Rb   JOC, Vince Brockie
Lb   Rufus Brevett, Tim Ryan
Cb   Matt Mills, Chris Swailes, Jack Ashurst, Darren Moore
Rm   COPPS, Steve Adams
Lm   Michael McIndoe, Tommy Gaynor
Cm   Mark Rankine, Richie Wellens, STOCKY, Danny Williamson, Kevin Hulme
Cf   Mike Jeffrey, BILLY SHARP, Keiron Brady, Colin Cramb, Graeme Jones

I am sure I have forgotten a few players, but not a bad first attempt.  you have picked 4 current players craig and kieron brady was a midfielder</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: turnbull for england</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108565</link>
            <description>its of no importance I know but i feel slightly cleverer for reading this, cheers lads, seem to getting more interested in politics as i get older  any recommendations for some further reading ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: Wade Falana</title>
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            <description>Here goes,

Andy Rhodes, Andy Beasley
Les Robinson, JOC
Rufus Brevett, Glyn Snodin
Brendon Ormsby, Matt Mills, Darren Moore, Russ Wilcox, David Wheater

Michael McIndoe, Kieron Brady
Jamie Paterson, COPPS, Jamie Lawernce
Mark Rankine, Ian Snodin, Richie Wellens, Danny Williamson, Eddie Gormley

Mike Jeffrey, BILLY SHARP, Colin Cramb, David Jones</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: roversdude</title>
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            <description>maybe he has earned the name dennis</description>
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            <title>Subject: 25 Man Rovers Squad (just for fun) - by: ctay</title>
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            <description>Ok, its international weekend. So just to get you thinking, try getting a 25 man rovers squad from over the years (however long you have been watching). Rules are only 3 current players and only five more players who are currently playing league football, but not with us anymore.

Here goes:

Gk   Andy Rhodes, Paul Crichton, Andy Warrington
Rb   JOC, Vince Brockie
Lb   Rufus Brevett, Tim Ryan
Cb   Matt Mills, Chris Swailes, Jack Ashurst, Darren Moore
Rm   COPPS, Steve Adams
Lm   Michael McIndoe, Tommy Gaynor
Cm   Mark Rankine, Richie Wellens, STOCKY, Danny Williamson, Kevin Hulme
Cf   Mike Jeffrey, BILLY SHARP, Keiron Brady, Colin Cramb, Graeme Jones

I am sure I have forgotten a few players, but not a bad first attempt.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: ctay</title>
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            <description>True, I pay £50 per for Sky. My season ticket was £320(not that I have used it yet!), but to be honest I probably watch more Cricket, NFL and other things on different chanels to the Prem. Not sure I can see how you can work that. Its all about being able to afford and preferences.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: scuzzer</title>
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            <description>Hear bloody hear!

'You can only f**k with the prick you've got' to coin an old phrase, so lets stop crying about not having a 14 incher and get on with doing the best we can with a very capable set of players and great management team.

Up the Rovers and drop the doom and gloom!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: Glyn_Wigley</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=106568&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108557</link>
            <description>Belle Brew</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Filo</title>
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            <description> keyser_soze wrote: 
 What was his link to Ireland again? His surname? 



Apparently, when he was young, before he became a footballer, he had a job walking a neighbours dog, the dog was an Irish Terrier like this one http://www.pups4sale.com.au/irish_terrier_03a.jpg as this dog had the same colour hair as a young Master Green it was deemed that Master Green was part Irish and could qualify to represent Ireland  :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: scuzzer</title>
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            <description>Come off it, we all know its his ginger pubes!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Savvy</title>
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            <description> keyser_soze wrote: 
 What was his link to Ireland again? His surname? 

 :-D quality!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 

It's going to be fascinating, whichever Miliband wins. The obvious Shadow Chancellor is Ed Balls, but taking him on might seem like replaying the Blair-Brown frictions.

I couldn't agree more about Brown's 2007 mistake by the way. Future counter-factual historians will have a field day working out what would have happened if he'd had some balls in Sept 2007. 

If Balls isn't offered a job that he can accept, then the risk to the leader is that he'll go to the back-benches and cause trouble. Which is precisely the reason Blair gives for not sacking Brown - or at least moving him out of the Treasury.

Agreed- 2007 and &quot;the Election that never was&quot; will go down as one of the great counter-factual moments of recent political history. (The Tory equivalent is what would have happened had Thatcher won a clear majority in the first round of the leadership ballot in 1990.) What a victory in 2007 would have given Brown and the Labour government is until 2012 to see whether their economic policies led to a sustained recovery. In May of this year they were still having to deal with the political fall-out from a deep recession- which was always going to handicap an incumbent government.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: keyser_soze</title>
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            <description>What was his link to Ireland again? His surname?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: scuzzer</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108543#108551</link>
            <description>Ditto on all counts, loved watching the lad in a Rovers shirt and hope he does famously for them tonight.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Paul Green - by: Savvy</title>
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            <description>Amen to that! I'll certainly be watching with interest! Good luck Greeny lad!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108549</link>
            <description> The Red Baron wrote: 
  Blair by contrast moved Labour AWAY from it's heart. As a result he was viewed by Labour activists with something on a scale between toleration and disgust. 

In that case, the result of the Labour leadership election should be very interesting. One would therefore expect anyone but David Miliband- who is the closest to Blair's &quot;New Labour&quot; position than any of the other candidates- to win. On the other hand, DM is the bookie's favourite.

Fact is- everyone likes a winner. And within their respective parties, Thatcher and Blair WERE winners. 

I do agree with you that Brown would have won in 2007. However, the accusations that he bottled it were spot on- he did! He should have given his keynote speech to the Labour conference then driven to Buckingham Palace. Instead he allowed the Tories to hold their conference and come out with as many populist policies as they could- then he got spooked when their poll ratings rose as a result. 

Fair point about David Miliband and the bookies. (Mind, they also had us at 1/4 on to go down at Xmas 2008...). Personally, I think it would be a big mistake for the Labour Party to elect him. He appears to have all the problems of Blair (far-right of the party, not particularly adept on economics) and all the problems of Brown (thoroughly un-telegenic, easily caricatured, overly-intellectual). And of course, he carries the baggage of being the main figure who plotted to undermine Brown in 2008-09.

It's going to be fascinating, whichever Miliband wins. The obvious Shadow Chancellor is Ed Balls, but taking him on might seem like replaying the Blair-Brown frictions.

I couldn't agree more about Brown's 2007 mistake by the way. Future counter-factual historians will have a field day working out what would have happened if he'd had some balls in Sept 2007.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: River Don</title>
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            <description>How about a pint of &quot;Billy Stubbs Tears&quot;?  :-D 

It's got a certain ring to it!

Or how about something in honour of a Rovers great and a legendary drinker?

Duggies Finest</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description> Blair by contrast moved Labour AWAY from it's heart. As a result he was viewed by Labour activists with something on a scale between toleration and disgust. 

In that case, the result of the Labour leadership election should be very interesting. One would therefore expect anyone but David Miliband- who is the closest to Blair's &quot;New Labour&quot; position than any of the other candidates- to win. On the other hand, DM is the bookie's favourite.

Fact is- everyone likes a winner. And within their respective parties, Thatcher and Blair WERE winners. 

I do agree with you that Brown would have won in 2007. However, the accusations that he bottled it were spot on- he did! He should have given his keynote speech to the Labour conference then driven to Buckingham Palace. Instead he allowed the Tories to hold their conference and come out with as many populist policies as they could- then he got spooked when their poll ratings rose as a result.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Alan Gow - by: Shawndrfc</title>
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            <description>He signed for motherwell on a 6 month contract, which i thought we should of done. Add to the strength in depth and would of given him the chance to prove himself.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108545</link>
            <description> The Red Baron wrote: 
 It will be fascinating to see in years to come whether Blair casts the same kind of shadow over the Labour Party that Thatcher cast over the Tories. After all, his record was very similar to hers: he won three elections and &quot;retired undefeated&quot; (at least in electoral terms) after losing the support of his colleagues. In both cases, their successors then lost a subsequent election (although John Major did win one as well.) Will you get people claiming (as some Tories still do re Thatcher) that everything would have been fine if only Blair had been allowed to carry on and to choose the moment of his departure having secured his succession?

FWIW I believe that the Tories would have lost the 1992 General Election with Thatcher at the helm, but paradoxically their defeat then might have saved them years of internal wrangling - as well as being cast into the political wilderness for over a decade. On the other hand, if there was one man who could have won the 2010 GE for Labour, that man was Tony Blair. 

An interesting thesis TRB, but I disagree with it.

Blair will not cast a Thatcher-like shadow over Labour, for a very simple reason.

Thatcher told the Tories what they wanted to hear and positioned them where (politically) the mass of Tory activists wanted to be positioned - further to the Right. As a consequence, she was venerated by the Tories.

Blair by contrast moved Labour AWAY from it's heart. As a result he was viewed by Labour activists with something on a scale between toleration and disgust.

As for Blair's saying that Labour lost because they stopped being New Labour, he's doing nothing but engaging in the tedious self-indulgence that ousted leaders always wallow in. As ever, they say, &quot;Ah yes, the rot only set in when you stopped listening to me. I was the genius and you forgot the message.&quot;

Which, as ever, ignores the inconvenient facts.

By the time he left power, Blair was hated by a majority in the country. He had come in on a wave of (self-generated) enthusiasm, and had let people down on a number of scores, Iraq being the biggest.

Brown taking over gave Labour a huge boost in the polls. It's easy to forget now, but back in mid-2007, Brown was a big asset to Labour. When he took over from Blair, Labour's poll ratings went up by 1/4-1/3 overnight. Of all the tactical mistakes that Brown made, not calling an Election in Autumn 2007 was the biggest. The polls indicate that he'd have swept to power.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/voting-intention

After that, Brown was hammered by the economic hurricane and by the impression that he'd bottled the Election that never was.

But, by early 2009, when it was becoming clear that Brown had given the steer to the entire Western Capitalist world on how to stop the recession becoming a Depression, Labour rapidly started improving its popularity. Look at the poll figures.

By contrast, Blair states that Labour should have adopted a similar economic/fiscal strategy to the one that Osbourne has blathered on about since 2008. And that would have been a God-Almighty disaster. If one thing would have been guaranteed to annihilate Labour's chances in May this year, it would have been doing that.

But then, Blair never was much cop at economics. His great good fortune was to have Brown at the side of him for a decade doing the intellectual spadework.

The fact that Labour damn-near matched the Tories in seats at the Election, despite suffering the worst recession for 80 years is quite astonishing. What the Blairites should consider is how much better Labour might have done if they had kept their fucking gobs shut and supported their own Government instead of having a co-ordinated strategy to undermine Brown in the 2 years running up to the Election. Had Labour been just a fraction more popular at the elction, the current situation would be entirely different. Had Labour won just 10 more seats off the Tories, we would now have a Labour-Liberal coalition Govt. The fact that we haven't is to a great degree down to the actions of the Blairites over the last 2 years.

But then again, the Blairites would probably prefer that outcome anyway - it means that he and they can smugly go off into History saying, &quot;I told you so...&quot;</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: Boomstick</title>
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            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
  Boomstick wrote: 
 So not only did he take us into an illegal war, he handed the labour party over to a person he didnt like and knew was useless. Why? 
Will what Tony Bliar thought of Gordo change the minds of the nu-labourites that defended Gordo to the hilt before the election, or will they back-track on their opinions or pretend they didnt say them? OR did they think the same as Bliar but not say in public in the fear of losing votes. 

 :-D 

You and Detailed Reasoned Duscussion have never been introduced have you?

I'm waiting for your critique of The Bible.

&quot;A carpenter made loads of fish sarnies then got grassed up by one of his mates.&quot; 

Contradicted yourself there old lad. Where is the 'detailed reasoned discussion' in that birdseye potatoe waffle?

 :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Paul Green - by: Donny Dub</title>
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            <description>He's been chosen in central midfield for Ireland today in Armenia.

I think he'll do well, he's the sort of player manager Trapattoni likes, with his all action energetic style.  I do miss seeing him for Rovers and we were very careless losing him to Derby.

Good luck Greeny!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Drover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108542</link>
            <description>I wish some of our fans would get rid off those rose tinted ex-rovers player glasses,also george-friend,he may have been or be most of the things you list but CLASS he is not.Players like Neil Sullivan are Class,careers in the premiership(equivalent),International squad and when an ex-team mate and manager publically insulted him and blamed him for their poor results he just kept his dignity and kept quiet and went on to prove them wrong and became successful again and won a trophy and promotions.That what I call a class player.Ritchie wellens and Matt Mills was better players,Macca was great for the club at the time and was a big part in our success and promotion in league two and survival in league one BUT Ritchie and Millsy was a big part in our success and promotion in league one and survival in the Championship.Infact we currently have several players in the squad now who are better than him.I have said it before and still believe its true,he is not the kind of player SOD like's and that is backed up with his annoyance at the rumours everytime they spread.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>The 92 election was at the time of us coming out of the worst depression for a long time.

I think Maggie's austere no nonsense ways had caused the tories to believe that they would lose the election, as was predicted by many pundits and the media, or at best a hung parliament. The novelty factor of a woman PM and all the extremely well done TV interviews and quotes she laid out (the first party and whore of the media was Maggie IMO) was not working anymore.

Maggie went before she was pushed, which I imagine she was too proud for that. The tories went the opposite way for the next leader in the hope of appeasing the masses and winning the anti Maggie crowd and floating voters over.

Against the odds, and to many surprises the Tories pissed the 92 election. 

It's all guesswork/opinions, on would they have won had Maggie been at the helm. I'm of the opinion that they would have lost. I'm also of the opinion that Labour would have won had Blair been in charge this time round, and could never understand why he stood down.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
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            <description> bedale rover wrote: 
 that save at preston from paul hayes low by his left hand post and he dropped onto it and shovelled it around for the corner was jaw droppingly good 

It was a stonking save, timed to perfection. 

Even more impressive when you consider he pulled it off whilst sporting his bulky incontinence pants.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Doncaster Rover - by: Donny Dub</title>
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            <description>This horse runs at Haydock tomorrow - 20/1 - mighty odds and I think it won last time out!

Midas Touch in the Leger at 7/1 is worth a bet too.

Get on and good luck!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster Rovers Supporters Beer! - by: GoldenAngel</title>
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            <description>I love it! Tortuga wrote: 
 Rovers (ale) Till I Die.........

Pint of &quot;Till I Die&quot; please </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:England ticket £20 - by: BLIR</title>
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            <description> Fanatical Rover wrote: 
 Final offer. Any takers please 

I'm going to hang back - it'll be a fiver by 1 o'clock  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: bedale rover</title>
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            <description>that save at preston from paul hayes low by his left hand post and he dropped onto it and shovelled it around for the corner was jaw droppingly good

he's always good value :scarf:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description>It will be fascinating to see in years to come whether Blair casts the same kind of shadow over the Labour Party that Thatcher cast over the Tories. After all, his record was very similar to hers: he won three elections and &quot;retired undefeated&quot; (at least in electoral terms) after losing the support of his colleagues. In both cases, their successors then lost a subsequent election (although John Major did win one as well.) Will you get people claiming (as some Tories still do re Thatcher) that everything would have been fine if only Blair had been allowed to carry on and to choose the moment of his departure having secured his succession?

FWIW I believe that the Tories would have lost the 1992 General Election with Thatcher at the helm, but paradoxically their defeat then might have saved them years of internal wrangling - as well as being cast into the political wilderness for over a decade. On the other hand, if there was one man who could have won the 2010 GE for Labour, that man was Tony Blair.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Neil Sullivan. - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>He's had his doubters, just like all the players at Rovers have. One minute they are excellent and overnight they are not good enough.


Sulli has come under question a few times. I think he's still one of the best in this league. He's very experienced and still seems to have agility and quick decision making. Good with the fans on and off the pitch. He will have his moments, but goalies inclusive of Van Der Saar, Valdes, Cesar et al can be made to look slack/stupid by the easiest of goals. It's the loneliest position on the pitch when things go wrong.

Sulli may turn into a DRFC 'so called' legend. I would not swap him for anyone in this league and if continues in this form, then he can go on further.

Long Live Sulli</description>
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            <title>Subject: Neil Sullivan. - by: inSODwetrust</title>
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            <description>http://www.givemefootball.com/championship/plenty-of-life-left-in-the-old-donny-dog-yet


Thoughts???  

 :scarf:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108532</link>
            <description> Boomstick wrote: 
 So not only did he take us into an illegal war, he handed the labour party over to a person he didnt like and knew was useless. Why? 
Will what Tony Bliar thought of Gordo change the minds of the nu-labourites that defended Gordo to the hilt before the election, or will they back-track on their opinions or pretend they didnt say them? OR did they think the same as Bliar but not say in public in the fear of losing votes. 

 :-D 

You and Detailed Reasoned Duscussion have never been introduced have you?

I'm waiting for your critique of The Bible.

&quot;A carpenter made loads of fish sarnies then got grassed up by one of his mates.&quot;</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Irish Branch</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108531</link>
            <description> vaya wrote: 
 On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket?

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from? 

Try to remember that Sky subscription covers much more than &quot;Premiership&quot; football, and is payable over 12 (monthly) instalments. I recently spoke to &quot;Sky&quot; to cancel all with them, you know what, i got &quot;FREE&quot; sky for 3 months, half price sport package for a year after that, its fair to say i wont cancel for at least a year now.
Also remember Sky subs is the household , so as many as can cram into room can watch, as opposed to one can view per season ticket.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: Boomstick</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108530</link>
            <description>So not only did he take us into an illegal war, he handed the labour party over to a person he didnt like and knew was useless. Why? 
Will what Tony Bliar thought of Gordo change the minds of the nu-labourites that defended Gordo to the hilt before the election, or will they back-track on their opinions or pretend they didnt say them? OR did they think the same as Bliar but not say in public in the fear of losing votes. 

 :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:England ticket £20 - by: coventryrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108334#108529</link>
            <description>Packet of yorkshire mix?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108528</link>
            <description> PDX_Rover wrote: 
 God bless the man, but JR's his own worst enemy sometimes.  It's time the record was changed as every season we get the same old stuff trotted out from the club about attendances, while the club steadfastly REFUSES to do anything proactive to market itself in anything remotely resembling a professional manner.

To repeat, a comprehensive 26 page marketing plan was submitted to JR in December 2005, so nearly 5 years ago.  You can download that plan here: http://www.mediafire.com/?awszvb4krboex8y

The country has been in the worst economic slump for 30 years and disposable income is just not there for many folks.  It's time the club pulled itself together and started really thinking about creative marketing.  Buying Sharp is brilliant, but to then turn around and try and use that as a reason for several thousand people suddenly seeing the light and buying season tickets is naive at best.

It's too expensive to watch Rovers.  That is the stark economic reality for many. Simple as that.

John - my advice... Read the plan again. Get some people in who know what they are doing and get rid of Morris and the other yes men, and do something proactive.  That's all most of us are asking you to do.  If the club really has a crack at marketing itself properly and still you don't see an increase in gates, then I will hold my hands up and say you have a point.

BTW, JR, or his minions do read the forum. 




It`s been said before, but it needs saying again, focus group document was a great piece of work by all concerned, it`s a pity the club chose to ignore it and instead berate the stay away fans, there are people at the club that are stealing wages and not earning them. I wish I was in charge, there would be some arses kicked then! every employee in the marketing department should have a target and salaries should be paid in relation to how much of that target they achieve, they might get off their arses and do something then! Too many people have been in the comfort zone for far too long and the Doncaster public are being blamed for their failings!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: Jim Dobbin</title>
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            <description> Lesonthewest wrote: 
 Noticed at the weekend Barnsley had around 5 to 600 more fans than we had for the visit of Middlesbrough, obviously Hull would have brought more. Just interested in what the Barnsley wage bill is. Anyone? 

But there were 10,245 home fans with 1,522 Boro fans! = 11,767 According to their OS. Boro's support is dropping at an alarming rate. And l see that those Tykettes are from dee dar land they won't like that! Last year they had the Wildcats l think they have some connection with the Wakey rugby side, they have used Oakwell a few times over the years.

Football is becoming like Ice Hockey! Oh and there's also the Owlettes so l think every club must have a &quot;lettes&quot;!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
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            <description> Chris wrote: 
  BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
 
The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds. These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in politics and/or the particular field of interest to the minister

2) Hague had three special advisers.

 

Do me a favour.

As Hague is Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State he is, subject to David Cameron's approval, allowed more than two special advisers.

/thread 

Oh yeah. I forgot he was First Secretary of State. That's convenient int it? Nobody knows what it is, but it's a useful cover for Hague being able to lash out more money on advisers than other Cabinet Ministers. The Home Secretary and the Chancellor make do with 2. As did their Labour equivalents. 

But Hague of course just HAS to have 3. Or at least he DID until folk started looking into it then hey-presto, one resigns and he CAN make do with 2 after all. 

It takes a special kind of naivety to believe that there us nothing dodgy here. 

As I say, at best, Hague is making a mockery of the Age of Austerity. YOU plebs tighten your belts. I'M going to spend tax payers' money on a making myself feel important by having more advisers than Osbourne and the like. At worst, it is criminal corruption, using tax payers' money to pay for a lover. 

If it's the first, he will survive but be damaged goods. If it's the second, it's a police matter and the end of his career. Either way,  Cameron has been stupid and shown rank bad judgement in allowing it.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108525</link>
            <description>GOOD!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: RoversDave</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108524</link>
            <description>This ones a bit scary

http://www.barnsleyfc.co.uk/javaImages/a3/22/0,,10309~8987299,00.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108523</link>
            <description> PDX_Rover wrote: 
 God bless the man, but JR's his own worst enemy sometimes.  It's time the record was changed as every season we get the same old stuff trotted out from the club about attendances, while the club steadfastly REFUSES to do anything proactive to market itself in anything remotely resembling a professional manner.

To repeat, a comprehensive 26 page marketing plan was submitted to JR in December 2005, so nearly 5 years ago.  You can download that plan here: http://www.mediafire.com/?awszvb4krboex8y

The country has been in the worst economic slump for 30 years and disposable income is just not there for many folks.  It's time the club pulled itself together and started really thinking about creative marketing.  Buying Sharp is brilliant, but to then turn around and try and use that as a reason for several thousand people suddenly seeing the light and buying season tickets is naive at best.

It's too expensive to watch Rovers.  That is the stark economic reality for many. Simple as that.

John - my advice... Read the plan again. Get some people in who know what they are doing and get rid of Morris and the other yes men, and do something proactive.  That's all most of us are asking you to do.  If the club really has a crack at marketing itself properly and still you don't see an increase in gates, then I will hold my hands up and say you have a point.

BTW, JR, or his minions do read the forum. 

I couldn't agree more Mark.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: NickDRFC</title>
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            <description>I actually don't think the technical stats were too far off, and I wouldn't expect them to be bang on anyway, but I agree about the physical stats. There has always seemed to be the thought on football games that the better you are as a player, the quicker and stronger you are. Case in point - Lewis Guy for us last year; technical stats were about right but he has always been quick and his pace should have been up around the 90 mark, instead it was nowhere near that.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: The Red Baron</title>
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            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
 We might need to stretch it a bit more soon. It is absolutely vital that we get the likes of Copps, JOC and Stock to extend their contracts. 

I think that's where the rest of the budget has gone- or has been allocated anyway. 

I'm not too bothered about new signings- as I think what we have is very good indeed. So long as we can bring in the odd short-term loan to cover for injuries, we'll be fine. 

And if we're in the top ten at the turn of the year, I have a feeling a few more funds will be found from somewhere!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: PDX_Rover</title>
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            <description>No...no-one who has been a Rovers fan for more than a decade can forget where we've been... It was those same fans that bought shares in the club, that are now mysteriously ignored by the club....

Whatever did happen to all those shares bought by the fans all those years ago and which JR apparently said to one fan have no value as Rovers was effectively started over when he took control???  Never has been an explanation.

Frankly... It is fantastic what hass been achieved thanks to JR and to a lessee degree the km2. However, one cannot help but feel a bit like those fans that kept the club running through the darkest days count for shite all now to the club....

Never forget and do not let history be re-written to suit certain people....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: roversdude</title>
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            <description>well said Baz - I believe people on here forget where we were a few years ago.
I'd much rather be playing the likes of Sheff Utd, Boro et al than Forest Green Rovers, Dover etc</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: DRFCDANNY</title>
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            <description>oh and billy sharp should be put into the england squad :D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Chris</title>
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            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
 
The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds. These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in politics and/or the particular field of interest to the minister

2) Hague had three special advisers.

 

Do me a favour.

As Hague is Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State he is, subject to David Cameron's approval, allowed more than two special advisers.

/thread</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: PDX_Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108516</link>
            <description>God bless the man, but JR's his own worst enemy sometimes.  It's time the record was changed as every season we get the same old stuff trotted out from the club about attendances, while the club steadfastly REFUSES to do anything proactive to market itself in anything remotely resembling a professional manner.

To repeat, a comprehensive 26 page marketing plan was submitted to JR in December 2005, so nearly 5 years ago.  You can download that plan here: http://www.mediafire.com/?awszvb4krboex8y

The country has been in the worst economic slump for 30 years and disposable income is just not there for many folks.  It's time the club pulled itself together and started really thinking about creative marketing.  Buying Sharp is brilliant, but to then turn around and try and use that as a reason for several thousand people suddenly seeing the light and buying season tickets is naive at best.

It's too expensive to watch Rovers.  That is the stark economic reality for many. Simple as that.

John - my advice... Read the plan again. Get some people in who know what they are doing and get rid of Morris and the other yes men, and do something proactive.  That's all most of us are asking you to do.  If the club really has a crack at marketing itself properly and still you don't see an increase in gates, then I will hold my hands up and say you have a point.

BTW, JR, or his minions do read the forum.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>I feel sorry for the board, for us fans and for Sean in the middle.


This is so difficult to balance and manage for all the parties involved.

All I ask myself is:

1. What do we want as fans, from this club on the pitch...expectations, success etc?
2. What do we want off the pitch....price to pay, quality of service etc?

ditto same questions for the Board

Then try and achieve it</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: OllyDawes</title>
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            <description> macca_the_rover wrote: 
 Can i suggest something else to improve on FIFA 11. I have played the first 3 games of the season as Doncaster in Manager Mode and the fitness levels are already red. I haven't even burnt them out by holding the sprint button down all game. My fitness coach level is 4 so i dont know why this is happening. Fitness in the game needs reviewing big time. 

It has been noted that the physical stats of lower league teams is too low, so there's been a bit of a push to sort it but I can't promise anything.

Thanks for your feedback regarding the missing players, we're still not sure whether to create them or not.

Olly.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Positivity thread - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>Yep, I've been thinking that too.

Come on Donny!!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108512</link>
            <description>The Tykettes have just announced their first 2 dance routines:


Dueling Banjo's from Deliverance 

and

Cotton Eye Jo


Yeeeee arrrrh squeal like a pig</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description> Doubt none of us know what wages have been saved or if our wage bill has increased, but like you say we would all guess Payne is most likely the only one who is on less or equal to Heffs, Smith, Guy. 

Alan Irvine: &quot;Sorry Paul, I can only offer you 6K a week&quot;
Heffernan: &quot;Be jesus, that's great ! I was only on 3K at Donny !&quot;</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:another rumour - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>I would have Wellens back tomorrow. 

I'll stand corrected but I've only ever heard our management/chairman come out publicly and say they have missed players that have left, for 2 players. Wellens was one and the other was Mills.

SOD/ROK/JR would have kept these if possible, and no doubt Roberts. The rest I wouldn't like to say.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Positivity thread - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>Right enough about budgets/attendances.

Even without money in the coffers (which I didn't think we had anyway)I still think we have a great squad and a manager who's far ahead of the majority of managers in this league.

We saw the signs on Saturday, with Oster's help, that we are beginning to put things together on the pitch and we should fear nothing.

With a bit of luck (we're getting penalties awarded !)and on suspensions and injuries, there's no reason why we can't do very well this season.

If we can get a good result at Watford it will set us up nicely for 2 home games against Norwich and...someone else ?

Top of the league anyone after 7 games ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 

Class out = Roberts

Class in = Billy, Thomas, Friend, Payne, Gillett. 

The argument for the incomings is subjective in respect of class/quality, as time will tell on that, but IMO 4 of those will be regular first teamers. I can only think of Roberts who was released and, who was a first team regular. Therefore, one could say we have considerably improved the quality that takes to the field. 

Note my little narrative underneath. Yes it is only an opinion on 'class in' and time will tell, but like I say, in the eyes of Sean (the one that counts) Heffs, Smith, Guy etc were not deemed class enough by Sean, and let's be honest never threatened a run in the first team and to remain there bar Roberts (we will all have our own less informed opinions, but facts tell the tale). Again, at least 4 of those 5 'ins' IMO will be regulars when fit and available. So does that not mean to our manager/coaching staff that we have more class in and less class as left.

Doubt none of us know what wages have been saved or if our wage bill has increased, but like you say we would all guess Payne is most likely the only one who is on less or equal to Heffs, Smith, Guy.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: donnybez</title>
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            <description>...he is a fool, were playing leeds and sheff utd on LIVE TV. The empty seats will make us look like a plastic club...shocking.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>I don't think JR should be made to feel as if he's misled anyone in terms of the budget etc.  

&quot;but we haven't had the response we hoped for from the town&quot;.

That's the sort of statement I, and many others have a problem with.

Let's back track to 15 months ago when a fuss was kicked up about the ST deadline. Gartom had to intervene and persuade the club to extend the deadline before prices went up. At this time JR was urged to look in to two things. 

1. Being able to pay for ST by intsallments
2. Being able to renew tickets online.

He said these would be looked in to as a priority.

ST numbers fell by approx 1000 last season on season before.

Moving along to this close season, and the club failed to address the above issues raised by ourselves via Gartom.

Cue the publishing of this years ST brochures on the back of a financially uncertain climate.
 
1. Prices up ? Yes
2. Less than a month to meet early bird deadline? Yes
3. Easy Pay options ? No
4. Renew Online ? No

JR's Objective: To increase ST sales and revenue !

How on earth having lost 1000 STs already are we going to increase ST sales and revenue when you put the prices up AND you don't provide payment options !?

So after another 1500 ST holders have not renewed, who's letting down who ?

What has the club learned ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: vaya</title>
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            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
  vaya wrote: 
  On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket? 

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from? 

Sky with the sports package and some other channels is about £40 per month.
Closer to £50 for HD. 

So presumably there are people with £500-ish of disposable income, who're choosing to spend it on Premiership football rather than their local team?

Marketing or ticket prices?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Viking Don</title>
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            <description>Has anyone actually read the Free Press? JR doesn't say anything of the sort about the fans being failed. It's Norfolk who has expressed that opinion, maybe JR agrees, but he didn't say it so he's got nothing to explain.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: steve@dcfd</title>
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            <description>Quote

Fans were also given a reality check by club chairman John Ryan who said: &quot;Just look at how many we have coming through the turnstiles.

&quot;Does that mark us out as a rich club?

&quot;We signed a player in the summer for over a million pounds and we didn't sell anyone ourselves to fund that deal but we haven't had the response we hoped for from the town.


The club chief said he also wanted to clear up any misunderstanding about the signing of Billy Sharp being outside the budget allocated to O'Driscoll - at around £7million the biggest ever assigned to a Doncaster boss.

John Ryan via the VSC site said let it be known we have signed Billy Sharp and agreed 3 loan players. At that time apart from Gillet and Thomas all other wages were accounted for. At that time a majority of season tickets had been bought. Therefore the wage budget for this year was known. We had to re-sign James Hayter and John Oster so their wages will have been taken in to account. At the first Pre season game JR also said 2/3 loans had been agreed. By then the wage budget would have been in place. Yet it was not said that we could not afford any more players or loans. It was not clarified that Billy’s wages were part of the budget. It was said that we have our best chance of promotion by JR, still did not say we could afford no more. Expectation of the supporters was fuelled by the chairman’s comments. This has occurred for the last two seasons at least. Yet each time the chairman has a dig at the people of Doncaster for not supporting his and our club. The support overall has declined from the first year in the championship, why? We still play good football two good finishes in the league. But prices have been increased both years for the match day experience. Last year we made the south stand more expensive on match days to make the away support pay more. This year we have made the whole ground more expensive. People cannot afford it. Supporters Like me, and I may be in a minority are fed up of hearing words in the early stages, &quot;mouthwatering&quot; &quot;3 loans agreed&quot; only to be found this now not true. I did buy my season ticket after Billy signed out of principle and thought this year may be I could believe the hype. So let’s hope Sean can keep the players we have fit, free from suspension and let’s hope the average centre halves we have can develop their defence qualities. Then and only then we may have a chance of a top six finish and we may see more supporters.
Why should these floating supporters come using their hard earned wages when they are belittled by the chairman for not supporting the club.?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> DonnyRTID wrote: 
  VikingJames wrote: 
  Superspy wrote: 
 they already do give free tickets out at schools. 

Not much good if a parent has to pay 25 quid to go with the kid. 

Jeez, it's like getting blood out of a stone with some folk. :cry: 

What?  :S 

I can only assume you've gone for the wrong similie there.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Old Popsider</title>
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            <description>Maybe Gartom could get some sort of interview or statement from JR put on the Forum to clarify exactly what he meant. 

If a comparison is made between prices charged to get into KMS to see the Rovers and prices charged by other Championship clubs, then personally I think that KMS prices are round about the average for the division. Compare the average worker's wages in most of the towns in the Championship with those of Doncaster, I think that Doncaster wages must come close to bottom of the scale. So what can be done to tempt people into KMS to see the Rovers? I don't know, if I did I'd be claiming a fat consultancy fee to JR and his board. 

Perhaps one option would be to say that to non STH, if you buy a matchday ticket at full price, keep the stub and when you next buy a ticket if you produce that stub then you would get the ticket you are purchasing with a discount of between 20% &amp; 30%. Might work. Do this for a full season and at the end see how much attendances have increased then for next season work out the average price paid and pitch next seasons ticket prices accordingly. Also freeze the ST prices for that season. 

Over to you GARTOM.

If this is taken on board, Gartom, Then put me in touch with JR for my fat consultancy fee! ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>Just to give you an idea of some of the ideas that were co-ordinated a year ago from this very forum and presented to the club's marketing department. September 2009

Note the issue about Season Ticket installments !! http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/images/fbfiles/files/Raise_The_Roof.doc</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> vaya wrote: 
  On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket? 

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from? 

Sky with the sports package and some other channels is about £40 per month.
Closer to £50 for HD.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VixDRFC</title>
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            <description> DonnyBazR0ver wrote: 
 It's an option although you'd have to pay the 'minders' and let's face it, I wouldn't want to be one of them.

The ideal solution would be that the parents CAN afford it. 

I agree on the latter

me &quot;watching&quot; kids after school ends is part of my contract, you just juggle the hours and have an agreement parents sign so that their &quot;darling&quot; gets kicked out if they cause problems</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>It's an option although you'd have to pay the 'minders' and let's face it, I wouldn't want to be one of them.

The ideal solution would be that the parents CAN afford it.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VixDRFC</title>
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            <description> DonnyBazR0ver wrote: 
 Like a creche you mean ? 
I run one at work, we dress it up as a &quot;Homework Club&quot;

Would solve the problem of what happens after you give free tickets and kids want to go again but parents can't afford</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:O'Driscoll and Ryan contradicting each other? - by: Red Rover</title>
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            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
 This has been done to death on here recently. I think the &quot;biggest budget in history&quot; comment was not specific to the transfer budget, it included the whole budget for the playing staff and coaching staff, including wages, add on clauses and the whole lot.

We have obviously either spent all the money, or the board have decided to reign it in a bit after the signing of Sharp. If we have spent all the money, you have to question it really - yes Sharp will be on big money, but I don't think the other new signings will be on massive money. Must mean that they are paying the likes of Locky and Wilson (who renewed their contracts in the summer) much more than what they are worth. 

Yeh well put...but lets hope for our sake that Wilson aint on too much!  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108494</link>
            <description>How much marketing do Sky do by comparison to Rovers ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>Like a creche you mean ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:O'Driscoll and Ryan contradicting each other? - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description>This has been done to death on here recently. I think the &quot;biggest budget in history&quot; comment was not specific to the transfer budget, it included the whole budget for the playing staff and coaching staff, including wages, add on clauses and the whole lot.

We have obviously either spent all the money, or the board have decided to reign it in a bit after the signing of Sharp. If we have spent all the money, you have to question it really - yes Sharp will be on big money, but I don't think the other new signings will be on massive money. Must mean that they are paying the likes of Locky and Wilson (who renewed their contracts in the summer) much more than what they are worth.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: vaya</title>
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            <description>On the subject of Sky - does anyone know what the price of a Sky Sports package is against a cat C or B season ticket?

How many of the Doncaster public are happy to plough their money into Sky and the Premiership and 'support' whichever team it is they've bought the shirt of this season, rather than Rovers given the choice?

Maybe this is where JR is coming from?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:O'Driscoll and Ryan contradicting each other? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108488#108490</link>
            <description> but am I right in thinking John Ryan was saying a meer 3 months ago that Doncaster Rovers had the biggest transfer kitty in their history?
 

Wrong !

It is reiterated in the Free Press article again today.

I heard the interview on the radio and the word 'transfer' was never used and he was quite careful the way he said it.

Many people of jumped on this and interpreted this as meaning a transfer budget. 

See previous threads.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VixDRFC</title>
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            <description>About tie &quot;adopted&quot; kid bit I work with a kid who is (according to him) a Leeds fan (because his dad is) yet they never go to watch Leeds, by his own admission he has watched Rovers live far more than he's watched Leeds because of the rest of his family and &quot;quid a kid&quot; etc

This may be totally unworkable and I'll probably get laughed off the boards but surely the Rovers in the Community team have CRB checks as they work in schools - how about setting up a club where kids can go and watch the Rovers without a parent, being watched by Rovers staff. If dad is working and mum wants to go shopping surely its better than leaving junior at home or dragging them round the shops and it could create a new generation of supporter</description>
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            <title>Subject: O'Driscoll and Ryan contradicting each other? - by: Red Rover</title>
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            <description>Right, I'm not having a go at the men at the top of Doncaster Rovers in the slightest, as they pulled off coup of the century to bring Billy to the Rovers...

...but am I right in thinking John Ryan was saying a meer 3 months ago that Doncaster Rovers had the biggest transfer kitty in their history?

Ok so we signed Billy Sharp, which was awesome and lets face it, we would have been happy with just signing him with all our money. However, there are some very strong backed up rumours that the KM2 paid for them out of there pocket. Which begs the question what happened to the transfer kitty? Ok, we have renewed the likes of Hayter and Osters contracts, and signed Friend, Thomas and Payne, but surely they weren't demanding as much money as Roberts, and with getting rid of Heffernan and Guy, that subsidised there transfers?

Anyway, that isn't the issue. The issue is O'Driscoll's comments like &quot;We just don't have the funds - even for a loan signing.&quot; And asked about Alan Gow he said &quot;As I've already said, they were far too expensive for the likes of us because we don't have that kind of money.&quot;

Now, I don't have a problem with us having no money coz we are a small fish in a big pond, but why did John Ryan come out with that kind of statement at the beginning of the summer?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description> ts fine giving out a set of tickets but if the child wants to go again and the parents can't afford this regularly you're back to square one. Having said that I know at least one family who go home and away regularly and it all came from the son being given a ticket at school 

Yeah. The quid a quid thing and the offers through schools are positive however, lacks foresight and imagination.

The club needs to remember the kids need to be accompanied by an adult, so how much are they going to pay and how much will they be expected to fork out for the add ons of food and drink. 

The issue of family tickets has been discussed before and it's a difficult one to pitch right without undermining the benefit of purchasing individual Season Tickets.

However, the club should be able to come up with a solution that would allow groups of 4 (2 adults, 2 kids, or 1 adult and 3 kids !) to purchase match day tickets at a very highly discounted rate.

Now, if I was the the club I wouldn't give a toss if people 'adopted' kids in order that they could take advantage of these discounted tickets, or kids were mixed and matched from other folks families. 

The point is we would get 4 people in that would not otherwise attend.
  
On the subject of kids prices, can someone tell me why we have 2 tiers of prices for u16s ? Surely a kids a kid who's not earning and therefore if they take up a seat the price has to be the same ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description>We might need to stretch it a bit more soon. It is absolutely vital that we get the likes of Copps, JOC and Stock to extend their contracts.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Moore Shit - by: Red Rover</title>
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            <description> DearneValleyRover wrote: 
 Luke Moore has a worse scoring record than Lewis Guy and would be on far higher wages, thanks but no thanks. 

Here here! Luke Moore is toss!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Alan Gow - by: Red Rover</title>
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            <description> Sprotyrover wrote: 
 Apparently was linked with Rovers in Free press has just signed for Motherwell. B) 

O'Driscoll said his agent came to him, and that was about it</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: dn6red</title>
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            <description>Steve Uttley said on Trax FM tonight thats its a load of rubbish started by someone from Coventry, he defo not coming and SOD annoyed that we have been associated with the rumour!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Red Rover</title>
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            <description>We've spent all our money on keeping Emile...I mean Steve Brooker for the last two years!  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: DearneValleyRover</title>
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            <description> The Red Baron wrote: 
  DearneValleyRover wrote: 
 Thomas out, no sign of Webster returning anytime soon. Martis unfit according to SO'D, Locky took a bang in the last game Jocky the only fit RB we've got and apparently no money to strengthen, mmmmm!!!! 

Thomas doesn't sound that bad if you read the whole item. It is a small fracture, which will heal in a week or two. I'd say he'd be out about a month, which isn't ideal but the initial fear was a long-term job.

Martis isn't unfit as in &quot;unable to play.&quot; They are looking at building up his fitness in order to stop him getting so many injuries and (hopefully) improve his performances.

Webster seems close to a return- though match fitness might be an issue. I can see him going on loan once he's ready to play. As for Locky, he took a knock but it is just that- a knock. I reckon he'll be fit for the Watford game. 

Locky and Martis aren't a good partnership though and we only have Sam as a back up as Jimmy is needed at right back. Both Locky and Martis pick up injuries easily aswell so the situation with Thomas isn't ideal even if it is only six weeks plus match fitness given the latest financial statement.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: TheRev</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108480</link>
            <description> Bentley Bullet wrote: 
 Not only does Mark Robins sound more like Sean O'Driscoll evey time he's on the Radio, Barnsley fc are immitating their more lucrative neighbours in other ways.
After breaking the bank to sign Shackell in an attempt to build a team around him of the quality of the great Donny side, they now plan to have their own pre-match dancers, who are to be called....... The   Tykettes  !
Now let me think............. 

We'll be hearing chorus after chorus of &quot;I'm Jake the Peg&quot;  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: RobTheRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108479</link>
            <description>Is that like Jason Shackell was out for six weeks?

:-(</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: Bentley Bullet</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108478</link>
            <description> adam3rovers wrote: 
 On the FLS on Saturday..a dingle wrote in that they were the Arsenal of the North! :-D 

Oh that's what he said was it? I must have misunderstood the accent.
I honestly thought I was witnessing the  rambles of a rare honest Dingle.....I thought he said &quot;Arsehole of the north&quot;.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Jonathan</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108477</link>
            <description>The wage bill will always be difficult to predict. It rose sharply when we sold Wellens and Mills, only brought in a few trialists on short term deals and awarded no new contracts.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VixDRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108476</link>
            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
  Superspy wrote: 
 they already do give free tickets out at schools. 

Not much good if a parent has to pay 25 quid to go with the kid. 

I'd have to double check at work tomorrow but I'm pretty certain the tickets they give to schools have a £0.00 price on them like the ones Alliance members get meaning a parent can take their child. I know the school I work at sends a letter to parents with the tickets (for the younger years at least) saying they hope the parent will go with the child. My workmate's a blade as is her whole family but when the youngest got tickets for a Rovers match from school he and his dad went (and enjoyed it though it happened to be the match before we played the Blades ;) )

Its fine giving out a set of tickets but if the child wants to go again and the parents can't afford this regularly you're back to square one. Having said that I know at least one family who go home and away regularly and it all came from the son being given a ticket at school</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: Al Riggall</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108475</link>
            <description>All estimates, some generous, most seem reasonable. The non playing staff must be on a decent wage?



		                Weekly	Annual
1	Neil Sullivan (G)	4000	208000
2	James O'Connor (D)	4000	208000
3	George Friend (D)	2500	130000
4	Shelton Martis (D)	4000	208000
5	Wayne Thomas (D)	2000	104000
6	James Chambers (D)	2000	104000
7	Martin Woods (M)	4000	208000
8	Brian Stock (M)	        6000	312000
9	Steve Brooker (F)	2500	130000
10	Billy Sharp (F)	        10000	520000
11	Adam Lockwood (D)	2500	130000
12	James Hayter (F)	3500	182000
15	Mark Wilson (M)	        2500	130000
16	John Oster (M)	        5000	260000
18	Simon Gillett (M)	3000	156000
21	Sam Hird (D)	        2000	104000
22	Dean Shiels (F)	        4000	208000
23	Byron Webster (M)	1500	78000
24	Mustapha Dumbuya (M)	800	41600
26	James Coppinger (M)	5000	260000
29	Waide Fairhurst (F)	1000	52000
33	Gary Woods (D)	        1000	52000
34	Robbie Clarke (M)	500	26000
35	Brett Lucas (M)	        200	10400
36	Brad Grayson (F)	200	10400
37	Aaron Jones (D)  	200	10400
38	Robbie Oldham (M)	200	10400
			
	Total		               3853200</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: Lesonthewest</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108474</link>
            <description>Noticed at the weekend Barnsley had around 5 to 600 more fans than we had for the visit of Middlesbrough, obviously Hull would have brought more. Just interested in what the Barnsley wage bill is. Anyone?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: adam3rovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108473</link>
            <description>On the FLS on Saturday..a dingle wrote in that they were the Arsenal of the North! :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: adge</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108472</link>
            <description>yes , but isn't everybody</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: adge</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108471</link>
            <description>not that bad.....only out for six weeks ?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: besty</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108470</link>
            <description>My 2 boys are now 20 and 17.

Rightly or wrongly ive bought them an underage ST for last couple of years but now its got to the stage where they cant get away with looking 15.
My eldest has got his first job but it pays minimum wage and there is no way he can afford Donny.At the same time I cant afford his adult ST so another fan has gone.Hopefully he will get a better job and come back but chances are he will save any spare money for a deposit on a house and I dont blame him.

My youngest will be in the same boat shortly.

I dont know the answer,I dont blame Donny I blame Sky and the Premier League.

Football is not for the working class anymore its for the middle-class,anyone for the conference and league 2 again :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Wellington Vaults</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108469</link>
            <description>I couldn't give a toss (ahem) about his sexuality.  But as far as I'm concerned, any grief he is getting now is the long-overdue payback for that gut-wrenching speech he made as a precocious and obnoxious jumped-up school boy at the Tory party conference in the 70s.

I can still remember the look of rapture on Thatcher's face as the little sh*t, in those anoying adenoidal tones, praised her &quot;marvellous&quot; qualities.

It's just a shame that he didn't get a good kicking on his return home, as opposed to a good rodgering in the showers after rugger practice.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108468</link>
            <description> MrFrost wrote: 
 So JR says the budget for wages this seaosn is 7 million and we have reached that.

What was it last season?
As last year we had a bigger squad, and we had the likes of Sharp (who's wages we were paying while he was on loan) Shackell, JET etc.

I fail to see how our wage bill has increased. 

We must be paying alot of players more than they are worth.

Its the only answer that makes sense really.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Jonathan</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108467</link>
            <description>Apparently the PM has said he's 100% behind Haugue. I'm sure he'll be backed up by David Laws too.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:another rumour - by: grayx</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107634&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108466</link>
            <description>  Stock picks himself even though he has had an average start, &amp; there is not a chance he would replace Oster. Would he improve the squad? without a doubt. Automatic choice? not for me. 

Stocks back injury worries me though. Its surfaced again causing him to pull out of the Wales squad. My mate, who's a Leeds fan, said Wellens ran the show against them the other week. I'd struggle to choose between them to be honest.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: Jonathan</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108465</link>
            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 
Class out = Roberts

Class in = Billy, Thomas, Friend, Payne, Gillett. 
 

How can you say Thomas, Friend and Payne are &quot;class in&quot; and omit Heffernan, Guy and Smith from &quot;class out.&quot;

I'm not criticising any of our incomings, infact I think Payne and Friend have the potential to become good players, but in footballing terms they are unproven as yet and are probably on no more money (and in Payne's case less) than the departees I've listed.

Like I said it isn't all one way traffic. The wage bill has multiplied over the last five years, so too have the income streams available to the club such as gate receipts, transfer fees received and television money.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Jonathan</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108464</link>
            <description>I'm fed up with all the empty rhetoric coming from the club in statements such as ' we know times are hard and the economic climate is difficult for people .' They're just empty words, it is the  actions  of the club that show a lack of understanding for the difficulties people are facing.

I agree with JR on one point, it probably wouldn't matter if we were top of the league when you're asking £42 for a father and young son to attend a game.

The pricing structure is out of touch with reality. 

Don't get me wrong I love JR but he either hasn't thought about the prices being charged or he hasn't thought about what he's saying. My message to the club would be to stop attacking the potential market place and f-ing well look at the reason why people aren't coming - it's staring you in the face! What on earth were they thinking when they set these prices?

I admire the principle that the club wants to run itself like a business, but what kind of business sets a price that alienates its market?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Duplicating Dingles. - by: besty</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108463</link>
            <description>Not only does Mark Robins sound more like Sean O'Driscoll evey time he's on the Radio, Barnsley fc are immitating their more lucrative neighbours in other ways


Dont mention lucrative on here mate :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Duplicating Dingles. - by: Bentley Bullet</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108462#108462</link>
            <description>Not only does Mark Robins sound more like Sean O'Driscoll evey time he's on the Radio, Barnsley fc are immitating their more lucrative neighbours in other ways.
After breaking the bank to sign Shackell in an attempt to build a team around him of the quality of the great Donny side, they now plan to have their own pre-match dancers, who are to be called.......The   Tykettes !
Now let me think.............</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Our Wage bill - by: besty</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108461</link>
            <description>Totally clutching at straws here but getting our existing players to sign new contracts would have probably cost a small fortune.I imagine Oster is on a lot more than last years temp contract.
Plus a lot of players out of contract this year so money will need to be set aside for them to re-sign?!

Like I said im only guessing though :S</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:another rumour - by: Lesonthewest</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107634&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108460</link>
            <description>Wellens lacked consistency for me, when on form he was excellent, but never saw him as first name on the team sheet. As for now, in my opinion he would struggle a little to make our midfield. Gillett has been excellent up to now, &amp; is more workmanlike than Richie, Woods gives us a left sided balance &amp; gets better each game, Stock picks himself even though he has had an average start, &amp; there is not a chance he would replace Oster. Would he improve the squad? without a doubt. Automatic choice? not for me.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Our Wage bill - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108459#108459</link>
            <description>So JR says the budget for wages this seaosn is 7 million and we have reached that.

What was it last season?
As last year we had a bigger squad, and we had the likes of Sharp (who's wages we were paying while he was on loan) Shackell, JET etc.

I fail to see how our wage bill has increased.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Lesonthewest</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108458</link>
            <description>Same old same old. If we can move into the top six in the next month or so, &amp; stay there, the floaters will come. If we float around mid to lower table then they will not, it's tough for the expectancy of the manager &amp; players, but that is the harsh reality, &amp; has been for donkeys years. The Doncaster public WILL support a winning team. If it's a win one lose one team folk will not attend, no matter how good the football is, sad but true. We have however built a fair size support since the dark days &amp; that should not be easily dismissed. I dare wager though if we were in the play-offs spots come February there will be 12500 to 13000 clicking through the turnstyles.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: The Red Baron</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108457</link>
            <description> DearneValleyRover wrote: 
 Thomas out, no sign of Webster returning anytime soon. Martis unfit according to SO'D, Locky took a bang in the last game Jocky the only fit RB we've got and apparently no money to strengthen, mmmmm!!!! 

Thomas doesn't sound that bad if you read the whole item. It is a small fracture, which will heal in a week or two. I'd say he'd be out about a month, which isn't ideal but the initial fear was a long-term job.

Martis isn't unfit as in &quot;unable to play.&quot; They are looking at building up his fitness in order to stop him getting so many injuries and (hopefully) improve his performances.

Webster seems close to a return- though match fitness might be an issue. I can see him going on loan once he's ready to play. As for Locky, he took a knock but it is just that- a knock. I reckon he'll be fit for the Watford game.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108456</link>
            <description> Sprotyrover wrote: 
  MrFrost wrote: 
  Sprotyrover wrote: 
 Waterdale multi storey Car Park,Police said another also got done on there yesterday
£68 quid for a new one!   

Are the Police investigating this for you then? They're turning a blind eye to the woman who smashed me off the road and drove off by saying it's my word against hers. 

The amount of Police activity has astounded me i have got my own case officer who has rang and offered condolensces,I spoke to a parking warden today and she said the Police had asked them to assist and be vigilant   

Wow. So they do work then!
I've been told to expect a two month wait before they even interview the cow who drove off and left me at the side of the road!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108455</link>
            <description>It is the ultimate sanction though. I've never been in favour of strike action against an employer, however this is a different scenario.

It would show the depth of feeling especially if folk are willing, but reluctant, to forgo a game they've already paid for.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: redrover19</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108454</link>
            <description>Where do they find these people ?
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108453</link>
            <description>Well. It's disappointing isn't it but not entirely unexpected.

You could blow a big hole in the statements made in that article about attendances.

I'm not going through it one by one as most of you have covered them already. 

We are at a crossroads at the moment and, I get the feeling that most people agree that the club is out of touch.

It is clear that JR does not read this forum and never has.

We need to do what we can to make sure JR etc, hear the voices of the fans from now on. I can't see the point of having a Supporters Club and a Fans director if they are not going to be used for the good of the football club.

You could easily re-write the headline. &quot;Donny Public let down by Uncaring Football Club&quot;

Mistakes in ticketing polices have been made over the last two or three years however, the club appears reluctant to acknowledge it, draw a line under it, and move on.

When Gareth next speaks to JR, then I think he should encourage him to read this forum, particularly these related threads and he will see the depth of frustration about ticket prices and the lack of forward planning by the club.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Dimples-D</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108452</link>
            <description> jucyberry wrote: 
 People are still on holiday too, how many actually missed the Hull game because they wern't even in Donny at the time.?

 Perhaps a better picture will be seen when the holiday season is finally over.


I also find it extremely hard to believe that every man woman and child who lives in the Doncaster area and doesn't support Rovers is either a donny white or a man u fan...


 SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL !!!  

You stole my thunder.. It's not just some people, it is most people.
Also, Rovers are not the most supported team in Doncaster. I live in Scawthorpe and there are many more Man Utd and Liverpool shirts than Rovers in the area and in Bentley. I would say I see at least 5 to one, maybe more.

Sad but true...</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: Chrisd_123</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108451</link>
            <description>Plus I along with many others have paid a lot of money for a season ticket...Why would we Boycott a game? That's just pointless as we lose money as well as the club in that case.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Cancel your Sky Subcriptions - by: Norfolk N Chance</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108450</link>
            <description>Use the money saved to  get to live game? As per previous poster that the problem .....The plastic fan!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: jucyberry</title>
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            <description>Awww, I confess, I love good innocent smut... If there is such a thing     </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108448</link>
            <description> MrFrost wrote: 
  Sprotyrover wrote: 
 Waterdale multi storey Car Park,Police said another also got done on there yesterday
£68 quid for a new one!   

Are the Police investigating this for you then? They're turning a blind eye to the woman who smashed me off the road and drove off by saying it's my word against hers. 

The amount of Police activity has astounded me i have got my own case officer who has rang and offered condolensces,I spoke to a parking warden today and she said the Police had asked them to assist and be vigilant  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: Chris</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108447</link>
            <description>Or he's been pissing about making transfers?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108446</link>
            <description> jucyberry wrote: 
 Must confess, I thought this was a follow on from Oslo's thread....  :-D 





There are some really shitty people out there.. 

So miss Berry you saw my post and assumed it was the usual smut!!!

Shame on you! :S</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108445</link>
            <description>Clever clogs!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: jucyberry</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108444</link>
            <description>And if it didn't work?

If it spooked the team, Pised off the board to the extent they decided to draw back?

if in some way it humiliated the club you all profess to love infront of the rest of the footballing community?

What then?  

The little man rarely wins, sadly.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108443</link>
            <description>In Free Press, Webster has started training.

I'm sure Michael Chopra will be pleased to hear the news about Thomas.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108442</link>
            <description>I mentioned a while ago about such a boycott. as this would send the most powerful message, not just to the clubs, but the authorities in general.

Sky Sports don't run this game, we do !

However, I would like to get our own house in order before trying this. If we can succeed and achieve better deals for the fans and increase our attendances then I'll be happy.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: jucyberry</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108441</link>
            <description>People are still on holiday too, how many actually missed the Hull game because they wern't even in Donny at the time.?

 Perhaps a better picture will be seen when the holiday season is finally over.


I also find it extremely hard to believe that every man woman and child who lives in the Doncaster area and doesn't support Rovers is either a donny white or a man u fan...


 SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE FOOTBALL !!! </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: Norfolk N Chance</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108440</link>
            <description>THis will solve nothing but hurt King JR who has dug deep its a football problem !</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108439</link>
            <description>I have Fifa 10 on PS3 and all squad numbers are correct. You probably need an update.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: macca_the_rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108438</link>
            <description>Can i suggest something else to improve on FIFA 11. I have played the first 3 games of the season as Doncaster in Manager Mode and the fitness levels are already red. I haven't even burnt them out by holding the sprint button down all game. My fitness coach level is 4 so i dont know why this is happening. Fitness in the game needs reviewing big time.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108437</link>
            <description>Thanks for your comments and support on this. As reported before, we need to find a way forward and it won't be for the lack of trying.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: selby</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108436</link>
            <description>If we win the next four games and are riding high I bet the attendances are up say 1000.It has always been that most of the floating punters will attach themselves to a winning team dispite the cost.Hence travelling to Leeds and Sheffield and paying over the price to get into the Rovers for years.JUST WIN MATCHES and the floaters will come.
Football is too expensive and I really feel for the people on here who are hurting because they can nolonger afford to go to the games but they are just as important to our club as anyone else.
Are we as a club becoming too self critical about the support we get at home matches when the away support percentage wise must be one of the best in the division.
This tends me to think that although we have a smaller base than most clubs it is more comitted and will go to greater lengths to support their club.    
The hard thing now is for us to go on to more success to improve the gates but I will always think more of the suporter who would like to be at the match but cannot afford it than the zombie premier supporter we will get if we do acheive the promised land.
I wonder how many of Blackpools season ticket holders had one seven years ago.
I REST MY CASE</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: DearneValleyRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108435</link>
            <description>Thomas out, no sign of Webster returning anytime soon. Martis unfit according to SO'D, Locky took a bang in the last game Jocky the only fit RB we've got and apparently no money to strengthen, mmmmm!!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108434</link>
            <description>Prat</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: Alan Southstand</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108433</link>
            <description>Small fracture in the knee, apparently.

That's one CB down already.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Facebook group protesting against football prices - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108432#108432</link>
            <description>A friend of mine has just set it up.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Protest-against-Football-admission-prices/153483124677478?v=page_getting_started</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108431</link>
            <description> VikingJames wrote: 
  Superspy wrote: 
 they already do give free tickets out at schools. 

Not much good if a parent has to pay 25 quid to go with the kid. 

Jeez, it's like getting blood out of a stone with some folk. :cry:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Colin C No.3</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108430</link>
            <description> DonnyRTID wrote: 
 He's not coming!, SO'D stated in DFP that it's utter nonsense. 

If it's utter nonsense then it's utter nonsense.

However, as I've said before, Macca in this team, with this manager...YES.

If SOD 'wants'him, he'll already know all about him, his 'shortfalls' (I can't think of many), and his atributes.

I'll go pick him up too!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:another rumour - by: bigdonnyboy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107634&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108429</link>
            <description>All this rubbish about Stock and his performance, with other players who are better at going forward Stock has to do a holding role and does it very well. Its not a flashy role and won't get him noticed as much, but someone has to do it. As for Wellens coming back ,can't see the point of it. When he played for us he was allowed to be flashy as other players were chasing around and the donkey work for him. Let us not forget how high we finished without him last season and i believe if he had played we would have finished lower.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108428</link>
            <description>What was the budget last season? Because we had several more players in the squad, AND we were paying Sharp's wages (and others) whilst he was on loan. I fail to see, how the wage bill has increased and that we are at the limit.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108427</link>
            <description> Boycie wrote: 
 Don't think Copps would be happy if he came back. 

Do they have the same relationship as Hayter and Stock, who many said would NEVER play together?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Alan Gow - by: Sprotyrover</title>
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            <description>Apparently was linked with Rovers in Free press has just signed for Motherwell. B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
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            <description>Link (http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free-press-sport/Boss-has-no-money-to.6509076.jp)

 
THE transfer deadline passed by quietly for Doncaster Rovers this week with only teenager Josh Payne moving out on loan.
And the prospect of Sean O'Driscoll strengthening his squad looks slim as the Doncaster boss frankly told the Free Press - &quot;we haven't got any money to spend&quot;.

Despite supporters continuing to speculate about further cash signings O'Driscoll said: &quot;I don't know why people have got the idea that we can go and splash out on this or that player.

&quot;We just don't have the funds - even for a loan signing.

&quot;I dare say that if someone we really liked became available temporarily I could go to the directors and make out a special case for a loan deal.

&quot;But other than that we just don't have the money for signings.&quot;

Rovers were reported to be linked with a move for former Rangers striker Alan Gow but O'Driscoll said he had been inundated with attempts from agents to ring him earlier in the week.

He said: &quot;That's how it works these days.

&quot;You don't really have to inquire about players - people come to you.&quot;

The Doncaster boss denied interest in Gow and added: &quot;Most of the players you are offered you are not really keen on but it's fair to say some interesting names did come up.

&quot;But, as I've already said, they were far too expensive for the likes of us because we don't have that kind of money.&quot;

 Fans were also given a reality check by club chairman John Ryan who said: &quot;Just look at how many we have coming through the turnstiles.

&quot;Does that mark us out as a rich club?

&quot;We signed a player in the summer for over a million pounds and we didn't sell anyone ourselves to fund that deal but we haven't had the response we hoped for from the town.

&quot;I'm not talking about our regular fans who come all the time and are brilliant.

&quot;But I just wonder whether we have reached our limit when it comes to support.&quot;

Ryan said the club had budgeted for average crowds of around 11,000 this season.

The attendance for Saturday's local derby against Hull was 11,149 - but almost 3,000 were away supporters.

Ryan added: &quot;We've got a hard core of about 8,000 fans and I'm not sure we would have much more if we were top of the table.&quot;

The club chief said he also wanted to clear up any misunderstanding about the signing of Billy Sharp being outside the budget allocated to O'Driscoll - at around £7million the biggest ever assigned to a Doncaster boss.

He said: &quot;The entire transfer fee was funded separately by the directors but the wages are within the budget.

&quot;It was the biggest budget ever but it's reached its limit.

&quot;Players are paid a lot more money these days.&quot;
 
Payne moved on a youth loan to Oxford United but can be recalled in an emergency at any time and O'Driscoll rubbished reports that he had made a late inquiry for former winger Michael McIndoe - now at Coventry - adding: &quot;It's total nonsense.
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: GM-MarkB</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=40#108424</link>
            <description>Dear Mr Ryan, here in the real world i've just got home from work where i've been out earning a crust to pay my mortgage and put food on the table etc etc. The wife isn't in yet from her work where she's been doing the same as me.

Unfortunately your play thing isn't a priority for me (and it never was) so i'm here to apologise to the 'genuine' fans of DRFC for daring to spend £28 on electric, gas, water, council tax etc last week when in actual fact I should have been giving it to you to help bring in some footballer who will earn about 25% of my yearly wage in one week.

Sorry everyone   


Edit...she's just got in...she says sorry too</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: jb stainforth</title>
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            <description> snods big brother wrote: 
 Thankfully it has so far come to nothing - lets hope it stays that way - his best is behind him. 

didnt they say osters best days where behind him sod would get
the best out of macca</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: jb stainforth</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108422</link>
            <description> jonrover wrote: 
 I don't know where to even begin with this one!

Lets get the facts straight here and please pull me up if I am incorrect. Ryan said we have the biggest transfer budget in our history only months ago. The Billy Sharp transfer in theory did not implicate this budget since our directors financed the deal between themselves. And now were told there's no money for transfers or loan deals? I stood literally 5 yards form Ryan at Askern and he clearly stated there were 3 Premier League players coming here on season long loans. It seems this might have been a shit attempt at pushing season ticket sales. Does Mr Ryan think us supporters are entirely thick? Last season it was &quot;mouthwatering signings&quot;, this season &quot;Biggest transfer budget in history&quot;, &quot;going 4 it&quot; in previous seasons. I'll tell you something for nothing, I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth any more. Savour or not, he needs to learn to keep his trap shut and stop building peoples hopes up.

Does he believe slagging of the towns public for not coming will increase attendances? Lets get things into perspective here. We're ready to be plunged back into recession, with Doncaster likely to be hit hard. Leisure activities are not important and you can't blame people for not going to football in times like these. Also, what have the marketing department really done to increase attendances? Have they targeted the large Eastern European population? Free tickets for school kids/youth clubs/youth football teams thus increasing adult revenue? Have they shite. I wouldn't pay the twats is shirt buttons.
 
I have really had to push the boat out this season to get my season ticket, so much so that we haven't been away this summer apart from a grotty caravan at Cleggy for 2 nights. One things for sure though, if that is his attitude I won't be doing the same next year. I'll pick and choose my games as my pocket dictates. 


i am full of respect for jr but this post is the perfect discription of how jr treats the fans
over the top bullshit statements and treating the fans like idiots but after getting that of my chest he will always have my support. unless season tickets go up again next year .then my pockets done,</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Wello</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108421</link>
            <description>yeah about 30 which is a class full, we need school fulls there to fill the ground with only 8 thousand there a game. aiming at the youth is the only way to grow the fan base.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Actions speak louder than words - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108420</link>
            <description>Do you just have to sign up to the Facebook group, or do you have to boycott the game aswell? ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Actions speak louder than words - by: Omanrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108419#108419</link>
            <description>So who would be willing to talk with their feet and sign up to a facebook group that promoted a 1 match boycott against the extortionate prices of match day tickets throughout the football leagues in England?

Lets see eh?  :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: jmt</title>
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            <description>how we paid for billy sharp seems to be getting twisted, by fans and the board!
jr said this was outside of our budget, paid for by all the director's chipping in!
so only his wages will be coming out of the budget.
as for the topic title, bradford proved this wrong two years ago.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyNoel</title>
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            <description> Norfolk N Chance wrote: 
 Just to clarify guys the above is my words but embraces the story.

Not sure what all the fuss is about is totally true - we have been let down by the public not being interested.....

As JR says us geneuine fans are the best in the land! 

But if the public aren't interested they aren't interested - the next stage then becomes making them interested. I don't feel let down - it's obviously disappointing that crowds aren't growing, especially after the Billy transfer, but there are many factors to explain this that the club have the opportunity to address. What is is Sheff Utd say? Every empty seat is an opportunity?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Norfolk N Chance</title>
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            <description>Stop talking daft - none of us do that - called budgeting.

The point is alot of Donny people not interested and support other teams - get real and stop picking an agrument over nothing!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Omanrover</title>
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            <description>so i should say bollox to the Mrs, im off to watch rovers, and by the way, give me 1/2 of this weeks money so i can do it, and tell the kids they aint eating today?

GET REAL !!!!
It sickens me to think that some people on here would put 90 minutes of average football before their families.  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> Superspy wrote: 
 they already do give free tickets out at schools. 

Not much good if a parent has to pay 25 quid to go with the kid.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: MrFrost</title>
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            <description>So is JR classing genuine fans as the 8000 who were there against Hull. I take it the ones who were working or couldn't afford it are not genuine?

I think JR needs to get his own house in order before he critisizes the population of a town he doesn't even live in.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Norfolk N Chance</title>
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            <description>Just to clarify guys the above is my words but embraces the story.

Not sure what all the fuss is about is totally true - we have been let down by the public not being interested.....

As JR says us geneuine fans are the best in the land!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Omanrover</title>
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            <description>Maybe the word recession was incorrect but it doesnt change the fact that a lot of us are a lot worse off than we were 12 months ago, so i dont think the incorrect use of a word is relevant do you ? As i said before, all the moaning in the world by Mr Ryan is not going to put bums on seats is it. Maybe he should be looking at the staffing levels within his company/business(because that is what it is)and see who exactly is/isnt pulling their weight!.....Here`s a hint, try with the PR dept, if indeed they have one !  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Superspy</title>
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            <description>they already do give free tickets out at schools.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: BLIR</title>
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            <description> Dimples-D wrote: 
  Percentage wise for me £28 is about the same as a millionaire paying £1000. 

No its not mate - it's far worse than that.

The difference is disposable income not gross income. Say you earn an average wage, you've still got to pay your mortgage, car payments, credit cards, bank loans etc. Most people have barely anything to play with once they have met their financial committments (especially those of us with families).

If you're lucky, the average disposable income is a positive number - and £28 is a huge proportion of a weeks' worth of this.

Your average millionaire won't have a mortgage to pay, won't use credit cards (or certainly not pay interest on them), will pay cash for everything and won't have loan repayments to consider. Clearly they will pay a higher rate of interest on their earnings but they will have a higher proportion of their &quot;income&quot; as disposable.

Once you've managed to pay off everything you have, and don't have any debts, your disposable income will increase dramatically (something I am a long, long way off).

You see these professional players throwing money around like it doesn't matter - because it doesn't to them, they have a house, they have a car, they don't have credit and can afford as many exotic holidays (or prostitutes) as they want.

If I could turn the clock back (and really had the talent) I'd have been a pro footballer - nearly every one of my worries is financial.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: jucyberry</title>
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            <description>I have to say, I think it is vastly unfair to say the peope of Donny are letting Rovers down by not coming to games...After all there is nothing in the rates or rent books to say to live in Donny you have to be a football supporter.

one mans beautiful game is anothers idea of hell afterall..

As I have said before, I really do think that seat wise, the club, for now at least has gone as far as it can go.. If you love footy and can afford to go, you will go. If you don't like it, or cannot afford to go, and Lord knows there will be many, many people in that situation over the coming months, then you dont.

Not everyone is willing to make sacrifices to watch football. Many put food, bills and keeping a roof over their families heads as the priority.

It's a couple of weeks since the meeting now, and my memory isn't as good as it used to be, so please correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember JR saying something along the lines of how the season ticket wasn't that much to find.(or something along those lines) I remember sayng afterwards to the fella, not much for him, but for others it's a fortune.

The other thing that strikes me is, people are crying out for new supporters to prop up the clubs finances, but how long would it be before these Doncastrian saviours were turned on and branded glory hunters by the purists?  ( generally the same posters btw.. lol)

I wish I lived up there and had the cash, I would love the chance to attend every game, even the poor ones..</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: MrFrost</title>
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            <description> Omanrover wrote: 
 Oviously Mr Ryan has forgotten that we are in a recession and a high number of people (me included) have been made redundant recently.I have supported Rovers for many years (late 70`s to present time) and by support i mean attending matches regularly home and away. Can Mr Ryan, or anyone else on the board for that matter explain to me and many others how we can justify paying £28 to watch 90 minutes of football when i get £60 per week to look after a wife and child? It seems to me that the public of Doncaster have been put to the back of the priorities queue when it comes to Doncaster Rovers who are no longer a family club now that they are billy big bollox in the championship.Instead of critising the public, which, by the way, will not put more &quot; bums on seats&quot;, how about getting a grip on your advertising dept and develop a more affordable way to fund season tickets? by the way .This idiotic system of grading certain matches is financial suicide as the Hull game proved , lets see how many tickets are sold at £28 a time when rovers play Sheff utd and Leeds utd????????   

Just fir the record we are not in a recession and haven't been for 8 month. And unemployment in the DN area is less than it was 12 months ago.

Obviously times are still hard but we need to get our facts right when throwing the word &quot;recession&quot; round.

Does anyone have a link to the article. I refuse to buy the Free Press.

It does sound as if once again we have been fed bull shit but sadly I am not surprised.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 This has really annoyed me.  The prices are too high, that is a fact.  Look at our average when we had them at a reasonable rate 2 seasons ago.  The average was 12,000 and we had near enough 10,000 at every home game.  This season the average will be lower and we've had 9000 and 82000 home fans at the last two.  That's a 1500 drop.  The club will be making more money and good for them, but what's more important, money or a growing fan base.  5 years ago the fan base was important and fans were valued much, much more.  Free things for STH, cheaper prices and we were growing very well.  That growth potential is still there, but the club just won't be proactive, innovative and go away from the footballing trends.

Why do we have to do what every other club has done.  I doubt many would care if the wage bill was lower to finance a bigger crowd, for many a full KMS watching a slightly less expensive assembled squad would be far more enjoyable and our club is going the way of others and that saddens me.  We'll fall away and become another Swindon or Oldham when in reality we could become a club like Watford or Burnley.  Surely that is the ultimate aim.  We'll never be Man Utd but we can be much better than what we are now.  It really frustrates me that the board won't be proactive.  I'd rather have not spent 1M on Sharp and seen that ploughed into ticketing incentive schemes and club development, but the club doesn't seem to want to develop.  Why can't the club be innovative and attract people.  I know plenty who would go at a lower price, moot £28 at them or £400+ for a season ticket and they'll laugh in your face.

The board should take note of us, we're the fans we know.  When I started watching Rovers it was no promotion or nothing, just saw a guy in a shirt in town back in the Conference days and asked him about it.   Four of us went down and from there we became fans.  It was £1 for me as a kid that day.  How many 14 year olds have £14 that they can pay on the day after finding out Rovers are playing?  NOt many.

The incentive isn't there, it shouldn't be expected that people want to watch football, we need to attract them.  But £14 for an U16?  I only earnt £10 a week from my paper round at that age with little pocket money.  It's crazy and until the club wakes up and decides to be proactive and innovative there will be no growth in the fanbase.  Really, they're hoping we get that class season, publicity through the media and a challenge at the top so people will pay the price to see a winning team, that's a gamble and it's the wrong strategy, it really is.  There's only Blackpool and Burnley in recent years managed it, it's a tough ask of SOD and I believe he's getting mighty frustrated by it.  His comments today suggest he feels he's done all he can, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him move on and that is very sad.  When it happens, the club only has itself to blame.  ON the pitch we're good, off it - not good at all. 

Spot on.

I started going to the Rovers because one day my dad said &quot;do you want to go and watch Donny Rovers play?&quot; and we thought &quot;why not?&quot; as it was only about a fiver for me to sit down. After that we started going every week, and now here we are, still going every week. Not many people will be encouraged to go down to the Keepmoat on the spur of the moment like I did if they have to pay 25 or 26 quid to get in! By having cheap prices when I started going, Rovers recruited another couple of lifelong fans, but now, there is no incentive for people who didn't usually go to start doing so now! It is a real shame that Rovers have put the short-term revenue boost over building a long term fanbase. JR can't complain if the KMS is half-empty for the Sheff United game, because which casual fan would pay £28 quid to go to a game that is on the box?!?!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: besty</title>
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            <description>Just another slant on this.

There was no way I was gonna go to Watford next week until I found out its only a tenner!!

Now there will be 3 of us going plus the usual beers,food,programmes etc etc.

Im sure a few more have thought/done the same.IT WORKS!! Any money to the club is better than an empty seat surely?!
Well done Watford</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: DonnyRTID</title>
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            <description>If people aren't willing to pay £28, they could always sit in the East or West stand for £25, or even better buy a membership for £20 and it will only cost £22.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: tommy toes</title>
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            <description>It's not that long ago 100 or so of us refused to pay £7 at Leigh RMI because the home fans were paying a fiver. Them wert days!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: besty</title>
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            <description>Does this work both ways then?

People that bought a ST on the understanding there was more players to sign,do they get a chance of a refund then?
(not me just asking the question)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyRTID</title>
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            <description> Omanrover wrote: 
 i HOPE THAT 7 MILLION AND NOT 7K OR WE ARE SERIOUSLY IN TROUBLE LOL :P 

Doh :coat:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: tommy toes</title>
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            <description> adge wrote: 
 tommy toes ,
family enclosure is £ 12 next saturday. 

.kin 'ell how many pedants does it take to make up a forum.

It's nearly always £8 to get in the family enclosure and between £15 - £18 to get in the grandstand, depending on the quality of the card.

On Leger day it's more.

The point I was trying to make is that it's pro rata MUCH MUCH more expensive to watch football than it used to be and consequently the vast majority of people who MAY have gone in the past certainly wont go now.

That and the massively inflated wages of footballers, agents etc has alienated ordinary working people and it will only get worse. Let's hope the Sky bubble bursts and things get back to reality.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Nudga</title>
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            <description> DonnyRTID wrote: 
  Nudga wrote: 
  big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 This has really annoyed me.  The prices are too high, that is a fact.  Look at our average when we had them at a reasonable rate 2 seasons ago.  The average was 12,000 and we had near enough 10,000 at every home game.  This season the average will be lower and we've had 9000 and 82000 home fans at the last two.  That's a 1500 drop.  The club will be making more money and good for them, but what's more important, money or a growing fan base.  5 years ago the fan base was important and fans were valued much, much more.  Free things for STH, cheaper prices and we were growing very well.  That growth potential is still there, but the club just won't be proactive, innovative and go away from the footballing trends.

Why do we have to do what every other club has done.  I doubt many would care if the wage bill was lower to finance a bigger crowd, for many a full KMS watching a slightly less expensive assembled squad would be far more enjoyable and our club is going the way of others and that saddens me.  We'll fall away and become another Swindon or Oldham when in reality we could become a club like Watford or Burnley.  Surely that is the ultimate aim.  We'll never be Man Utd but we can be much better than what we are now.  It really frustrates me that the board won't be proactive.  I'd rather have not spent 1M on Sharp and seen that ploughed into ticketing incentive schemes and club development, but the club doesn't seem to want to develop.  Why can't the club be innovative and attract people.  I know plenty who would go at a lower price, moot £28 at them or £400+ for a season ticket and they'll laugh in your face.

The board should take note of us, we're the fans we know.  When I started watching Rovers it was no promotion or nothing, just saw a guy in a shirt in town back in the Conference days and asked him about it.   Four of us went down and from there we became fans.  It was £1 for me as a kid that day.  How many 14 year olds have £14 that they can pay on the day after finding out Rovers are playing?  NOt many.

The incentive isn't there, it shouldn't be expected that people want to watch football, we need to attract them.  But £14 for an U16?  I only earnt £10 a week from my paper round at that age with little pocket money.  It's crazy and until the club wakes up and decides to be proactive and innovative there will be no growth in the fanbase.  Really, they're hoping we get that class season, publicity through the media and a challenge at the top so people will pay the price to see a winning team, that's a gamble and it's the wrong strategy, it really is.  There's only Blackpool and Burnley in recent years managed it, it's a tough ask of SOD and I believe he's getting mighty frustrated by it.  His comments today suggest he feels he's done all he can, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him move on and that is very sad.  When it happens, the club only has itself to blame.  ON the pitch we're good, off it - not good at all. 

Excellent post, exactly what I think.

And in the FreePress JR has gone back on what he said about Sharps transfer being out of the budget, I heard him on Radio Sheffield say it and it was also in the local papers. Again, the Donny public are getting the blame for not turning up. Does he not realise how many people have lost their jobs? I can't even get saturday O/T shifts in because of budget cuts so i've got no spare money to go. I am getting more and more fed up with modern football, and comments like his in the FP just push me further away. 

Sharps transfer was funded by the board but his wages like all the players, will come out of the 7k budget. 

Aye, we know that now but JR catagorically stated in the summer that SO'Ds transfer budget was still intact. Every summer we are fed tripe and we are expected to swallow it. It's all getting a bit tiresome nowadays.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
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            <description> DonnyBazR0ver wrote: 
  Does anyone seriously think that by charging £5 less that we would have filled the ground ? 

For mathematical purposes assume the 6000 paying customers paid £28. Revenue = £168000

To beat that revenue charging £5 less how many do you need ?

7304. Yes only 1300 more paying £23 would have increased the revenue. So an attendance in the region of 12400. 

Minus of course the 25% (or is it 35%?) the SMC take on ticket sales on gates over 10k. (Assuming this is still the case. Stand to be corrected if not)

I can't be bothered doing the maths, but if you take into account the above then Rovers will be receiving £16.25 quid a ticket, not £23.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Omanrover</title>
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            <description>i HOPE THAT 7 MILLION AND NOT 7K OR WE ARE SERIOUSLY IN TROUBLE LOL :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: Omanrover</title>
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            <description>so Sheff utd charging £38 justifies Doncaster Rovers charging £28  does it ?????????? This just qualifies the argument.(its about what we charge OUR fans and sod everyone else in the league). WE ARE BEING RIPPED OFF!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyRTID</title>
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            <description> Nudga wrote: 
  big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 This has really annoyed me.  The prices are too high, that is a fact.  Look at our average when we had them at a reasonable rate 2 seasons ago.  The average was 12,000 and we had near enough 10,000 at every home game.  This season the average will be lower and we've had 9000 and 82000 home fans at the last two.  That's a 1500 drop.  The club will be making more money and good for them, but what's more important, money or a growing fan base.  5 years ago the fan base was important and fans were valued much, much more.  Free things for STH, cheaper prices and we were growing very well.  That growth potential is still there, but the club just won't be proactive, innovative and go away from the footballing trends.

Why do we have to do what every other club has done.  I doubt many would care if the wage bill was lower to finance a bigger crowd, for many a full KMS watching a slightly less expensive assembled squad would be far more enjoyable and our club is going the way of others and that saddens me.  We'll fall away and become another Swindon or Oldham when in reality we could become a club like Watford or Burnley.  Surely that is the ultimate aim.  We'll never be Man Utd but we can be much better than what we are now.  It really frustrates me that the board won't be proactive.  I'd rather have not spent 1M on Sharp and seen that ploughed into ticketing incentive schemes and club development, but the club doesn't seem to want to develop.  Why can't the club be innovative and attract people.  I know plenty who would go at a lower price, moot £28 at them or £400+ for a season ticket and they'll laugh in your face.

The board should take note of us, we're the fans we know.  When I started watching Rovers it was no promotion or nothing, just saw a guy in a shirt in town back in the Conference days and asked him about it.   Four of us went down and from there we became fans.  It was £1 for me as a kid that day.  How many 14 year olds have £14 that they can pay on the day after finding out Rovers are playing?  NOt many.

The incentive isn't there, it shouldn't be expected that people want to watch football, we need to attract them.  But £14 for an U16?  I only earnt £10 a week from my paper round at that age with little pocket money.  It's crazy and until the club wakes up and decides to be proactive and innovative there will be no growth in the fanbase.  Really, they're hoping we get that class season, publicity through the media and a challenge at the top so people will pay the price to see a winning team, that's a gamble and it's the wrong strategy, it really is.  There's only Blackpool and Burnley in recent years managed it, it's a tough ask of SOD and I believe he's getting mighty frustrated by it.  His comments today suggest he feels he's done all he can, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him move on and that is very sad.  When it happens, the club only has itself to blame.  ON the pitch we're good, off it - not good at all. 

Excellent post, exactly what I think.

And in the FreePress JR has gone back on what he said about Sharps transfer being out of the budget, I heard him on Radio Sheffield say it and it was also in the local papers. Again, the Donny public are getting the blame for not turning up. Does he not realise how many people have lost their jobs? I can't even get saturday O/T shifts in because of budget cuts so i've got no spare money to go. I am getting more and more fed up with modern football, and comments like his in the FP just push me further away. 

Sharps transfer was funded by the board but his wages like all the players, will come out of the 7k budget.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Omanrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108394</link>
            <description>Oviously Mr Ryan has forgotten that we are in a recession and a high number of people (me included) have been made redundant recently.I have supported Rovers for many years (late 70`s to present time) and by support i mean attending matches regularly home and away. Can Mr Ryan, or anyone else on the board for that matter explain to me and many others how we can justify paying £28 to watch 90 minutes of football when i get £60 per week to look after a wife and child? It seems to me that the public of Doncaster have been put to the back of the priorities queue when it comes to Doncaster Rovers who are no longer a family club now that they are billy big bollox in the championship.Instead of critising the public, which, by the way, will not put more &quot; bums on seats&quot;, how about getting a grip on your advertising dept and develop a more affordable way to fund season tickets? by the way .This idiotic system of grading certain matches is financial suicide as the Hull game proved , lets see how many tickets are sold at £28 a time when rovers play Sheff utd and Leeds utd????????  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Omanrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108393</link>
            <description>Oviously Mr Ryan has forgotten that we are in a recession and a high number of people (me included) have been made redundant recently.I have supported Rovers for many years (late 70`s to present time) and by support i mean attending matches regularly home and away. Can Mr Ryan, or anyone else on the board for that matter explain to me and many others how we can justify paying £28 to watch 90 minutes of football when i get £60 per week to look after a wife and child? It seems to me that the public of Doncaster have been put to the back of the priorities queue when it comes to Doncaster Rovers who are no longer a family club now that they are billy big bollox in the championship.Instead of critising the public, which, by the way, will not put more &quot; bums on seats&quot;, how about getting a grip on your advertising dept and develop a more affordable way to fund season tickets? by the way .This idiotic system of grading certain matches is financial suicide as the Hull game proved , lets see how many tickets are sold at £28 a time when rovers play Sheff utd and Leeds utd????????  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108392</link>
            <description>He's not coming!, SO'D stated in DFP that it's utter nonsense.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: george-friend</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108391</link>
            <description>Class.
Skill.
Versatile.
Experience.

What more could you want ?
I would think he has matured a bit more anyway


what harm can a 1 month loan do ?
We need as many bodies as possible at this moment in time.     </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108390</link>
            <description>Why don't we keep it simple and be pro-active and have £20 tickets in ALL sides of the ground for EVERY match.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:FAO - Paul Mayfield - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108323#108389</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 How much is it on coach to Watford please? WATFORD - Saturday, September 11th (Kick-off 3.00pm)

Departure times: Retford 9.00am, Harworth 9.05am, Bawtry/Rossington (Styrup) 9.15am, Hare &amp; Tortoise 9.20am, Infirmary 9.30am, Keepmoat 9.45am.

Members Prices: Adults £19, OAP's £17, Under 16's £15. Non-members are charged £2 more.
  
All coach time &amp; prices are in the home &amp; away match travel section.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: adge</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108388</link>
            <description>tommy toes ,
family enclosure is £ 12 next saturday.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108387</link>
            <description> big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 This has really annoyed me.  The prices are too high, that is a fact.  Look at our average when we had them at a reasonable rate 2 seasons ago.  The average was 12,000 and we had near enough 10,000 at every home game.  This season the average will be lower and we've had 9000 and 82000 home fans at the last two.  That's a 1500 drop.  The club will be making more money and good for them, but what's more important, money or a growing fan base.  5 years ago the fan base was important and fans were valued much, much more.  Free things for STH, cheaper prices and we were growing very well.  That growth potential is still there, but the club just won't be proactive, innovative and go away from the footballing trends.

Why do we have to do what every other club has done.  I doubt many would care if the wage bill was lower to finance a bigger crowd, for many a full KMS watching a slightly less expensive assembled squad would be far more enjoyable and our club is going the way of others and that saddens me.  We'll fall away and become another Swindon or Oldham when in reality we could become a club like Watford or Burnley.  Surely that is the ultimate aim.  We'll never be Man Utd but we can be much better than what we are now.  It really frustrates me that the board won't be proactive.  I'd rather have not spent 1M on Sharp and seen that ploughed into ticketing incentive schemes and club development, but the club doesn't seem to want to develop.  Why can't the club be innovative and attract people.  I know plenty who would go at a lower price, moot £28 at them or £400+ for a season ticket and they'll laugh in your face.

The board should take note of us, we're the fans we know.  When I started watching Rovers it was no promotion or nothing, just saw a guy in a shirt in town back in the Conference days and asked him about it.   Four of us went down and from there we became fans.  It was £1 for me as a kid that day.  How many 14 year olds have £14 that they can pay on the day after finding out Rovers are playing?  NOt many.

The incentive isn't there, it shouldn't be expected that people want to watch football, we need to attract them.  But £14 for an U16?  I only earnt £10 a week from my paper round at that age with little pocket money.  It's crazy and until the club wakes up and decides to be proactive and innovative there will be no growth in the fanbase.  Really, they're hoping we get that class season, publicity through the media and a challenge at the top so people will pay the price to see a winning team, that's a gamble and it's the wrong strategy, it really is.  There's only Blackpool and Burnley in recent years managed it, it's a tough ask of SOD and I believe he's getting mighty frustrated by it.  His comments today suggest he feels he's done all he can, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him move on and that is very sad.  When it happens, the club only has itself to blame.  ON the pitch we're good, off it - not good at all. 

Excellent post, exactly what I think.

And in the FreePress JR has gone back on what he said about Sharps transfer being out of the budget, I heard him on Radio Sheffield say it and it was also in the local papers. Again, the Donny public are getting the blame for not turning up. Does he not realise how many people have lost their jobs? I can't even get saturday O/T shifts in because of budget cuts so i've got no spare money to go. I am getting more and more fed up with modern football, and comments like his in the FP just push me further away.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Wello</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108386</link>
            <description>Maybe target the schools and do something radical like give free tickets to school kids, like dish 3000 out get the school kids hoocked and then, if Like any young child they will badger there parents to take them when the offers stop. worth a punt dont see any other ideas. but one thing folk in doncaster wont pay £28 pound a ticket as its proving. I think DRFC have already budgeted for the Tax increase thats why the ticket prices have gone up. Its nothing to do with player wage why they have gone up, but the club will say that to ease questioning.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: tommy toes</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108385</link>
            <description>No mate I always win  B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: RoversAlias</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108384</link>
            <description>I've got it on XBox 360, might be why!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108383</link>
            <description> tommy toes wrote: 
  CusworthRovers wrote: 
 That's odd, my race tickets will cost more than a match day ticket.

£22 for the Grandstand and £30 on Saturday. Obviously, they are at the cheaper end of the market. You can look at almost doubling that for the County Stand.

Now how much are match day tickets? 

I did say second enlosure tickets were ten bob. On normal race days now the family enclosure which is the eqivalent is £8. Arguement over. 

So you don't spend money on bets!, it's like going to the pub and not buying drinks</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108382</link>
            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
  big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 I don't see the issue to be honest, what goes on in his hotel room makes no odds to me as long as he gets the blooming job right.  He's one of the few politicians that actually are quite honest and likeable. 

The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds.  These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in  politics and/or  the particular field of interest to the minister 

2) Hague had three special advisers.

3) The third one was this very young and inexperienced lad.

So, to be charitable, Hague is surrounding himself with more special advisers than previous ministers have needed. Which raises questions about his committment to the Age of Austerity that his Government is ramming down our throats. That in itself is a pretty serious political gaffe.

Or, much more seriously, if Hague has actually been having an affair with this lad, he is guilty of gross corruption in using public funds to pay a lover who has few obvious credentials for the job that he is ostensibly doing.

The gay aspect is of no importance. It would be equally corrupt if he was shagging a fit young lass and then took her on as an adviser (paid for by thee and me). 





Bumming! so the extra advisor is fully justified :-)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: tommy toes</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108381</link>
            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 That's odd, my race tickets will cost more than a match day ticket.

£22 for the Grandstand and £30 on Saturday. Obviously, they are at the cheaper end of the market. You can look at almost doubling that for the County Stand.

Now how much are match day tickets? 

I did say second enlosure tickets were ten bob. On normal race days now the family enclosure which is the eqivalent is £8. Arguement over.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: mutleyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108380</link>
            <description>As the majority of local / attractive home games are prior to Christmas, maybe the club can come up with a sensible price for a half season ticket!</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:50:30 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108379</link>
            <description> Filo wrote: 
 Everyone from Rotherham is a Bummer anyway, whats the Surprise ? :-) 

More specifically, everyone from Wath Comp is a bummer. They used to bab theirsens when us lot from the Left-footer school up the road had a pop at them.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Boomstick</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108378</link>
            <description> BillyStubbsTears wrote: 
  big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 I don't see the issue to be honest, what goes on in his hotel room makes no odds to me as long as he gets the blooming job right.  He's one of the few politicians that actually are quite honest and likeable. 

The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds. These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in politics and/or the particular field of interest to the minister

2) Hague had three special advisers.

3) The third one was this very young and inexperienced lad.

So, to be charitable, Hague is surrounding himself with more special advisers than previous ministers have needed. Which raises questions about his committment to the Age of Austerity that his Government is ramming down our throats. That in itself is a pretty serious political gaffe.

Or, much more seriously, if Hague has actually been having an affair with this lad, he is guilty of gross corruption in using public funds to pay a lover who has few obvious credentials for the job that he is ostensibly doing.

The gay aspect is of no importance. It would be equally corrupt if he was shagging a fit young lass and then took her on as an adviser (paid for by thee and me). 

Your personal vendetta againts any party other than nu labour is getting quite pathetic and boring. 
You are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill, you're piggy backing the gay story to make it more interesting to the masses. Which of course you claim is not the issue. Your main issue is that he has another special advisor, who the fuck cares, maybe he needs one!! the world is huge and very complex, he is the foreign secretary, ONE MAN, to deal with the issues of the world, if he wants advisors GOOD! I dont expect him to do the job by himself, if it makes him better at his job then so be it!

Jesus wept</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: george-friend</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108377</link>
            <description> RoversAlias wrote: 
  george-friend wrote: 
  OllyDawes wrote: 
 Hi, my name's Olly and I'm in charge of the Doncaster stats for the new FIFA game coming out in October.

As part of this, I've been asked to create the following players.

Brett Lucas
Brad Grayson
Aaron Jones
Robbie Oldham

I just need to know a bit about them as they're youth players, I haven't seen much of them. Also, will they play much of a part in the first team this season?

Any other suggestions for your team's players would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Olly. 




Olly could you and your crew please just get the shirt numbers right for fifa 11.

Heffs was number 5 last season.      
Another thing actually give us a more realistic wage budget.
We should be 3 star
Get the kits rght

Do this and i will buy the game. 

Eh? Was I playing a different copy, all the numbers were right for me.    

As for the kits, they were right last year. Our official away kit was the black one, we just didn't use it much. The year before however they fcuked it up, we've never had the awesome blue &amp; white hooped one in Fifa because on Fifa 09 they stuck to the Carlotti blue one from the year before, which was rubbish. 

Must have been as the numbers were wrong for me with rovers
What console did you play it on,im ps3</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: River Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108376</link>
            <description> Alan Southstand wrote: 
 How can there be no money when SOD's got the biggest budget we've ever had? Sharp's transfer was covered by the Directors, so where has this largest ever budget gone? Wages and improved contracts for the ones coming up for renewal?

It may have been the biggest a manager has ever been given, but was it big enough? 

They can never spend enough for you Alan.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108375</link>
            <description>Everyone from Rotherham is a Bummer anyway, whats the Surprise ? :-)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Alan Southstand</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108374</link>
            <description>How can there be no money when SOD's got the biggest budget we've ever had? Sharp's transfer was covered by the Directors, so where has this largest ever budget gone? Wages and improved contracts for the ones coming up for renewal?

It may have been the biggest a manager has ever been given, but was it big enough?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108373</link>
            <description> big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 I don't see the issue to be honest, what goes on in his hotel room makes no odds to me as long as he gets the blooming job right.  He's one of the few politicians that actually are quite honest and likeable. 

The point is perfectly obvious.

1) Guidelines are that ministers have up to two special advisers, paid for out of public funds. These are usually highly experienced and knowledgeable people with expertise in politics and/or the particular field of interest to the minister

2) Hague had three special advisers.

3) The third one was this very young and inexperienced lad.

So, to be charitable, Hague is surrounding himself with more special advisers than previous ministers have needed. Which raises questions about his committment to the Age of Austerity that his Government is ramming down our throats. That in itself is a pretty serious political gaffe.

Or, much more seriously, if Hague has actually been having an affair with this lad, he is guilty of gross corruption in using public funds to pay a lover who has few obvious credentials for the job that he is ostensibly doing.

The gay aspect is of no importance. It would be equally corrupt if he was shagging a fit young lass and then took her on as an adviser (paid for by thee and me).</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108372</link>
            <description>That's odd, my race tickets will cost more than a match day ticket.

£22 for the Grandstand and £30 on Saturday. Obviously, they are at the cheaper end of the market. You can look at almost doubling that for the County Stand.

Now how much are match day tickets?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:FAO - Paul Mayfield - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108323#108371</link>
            <description>How much is it on coach to Watford please?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108370</link>
            <description> big fat yorkshire pudding wrote: 
 I don't see the issue to be honest, what goes on in his hotel room makes no odds to me as long as he gets the blooming job right.  He's one of the few politicians that actually are quite honest and likeable. 


Could be true, but Gareth Keenan also makes a good point. If William is in deep negotiations with some other country on loaning some money in or out, or if William is sat round the table with the envoys of the Taliban negotiating the release of prisoners, or William is trying to resolve an Anglo diplomatic crisis with the UN........ will he be focused on the said issues or will he be checking out their bums and the size of their crotch?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108369</link>
            <description> tommy toes wrote: 
 It's race week next week. When I was about 18 it used to cost about 10s (50p) to get in the second enclosure at Donny Races and about 3s (15p) to get in the town end at OBV.
Nowadays it's almost twice as much to watch 90 mins at the KMS as spending the whole afternoon at the races. 
And the fall in attendances has hit racing just as hard as football. 
People have so many leisure choices these days, we'll never get back to the 20,000 crowds we got in the late 60's when we had a mini good run. 

Last time i went to the races, i was about £120 out of pocket!.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: bedale rover</title>
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            <description>on the saturday before the election i am walking up northallerton high street 

walking down the high street william hague and retinue including tory mayor

&quot;hello dave are you supporting us in the election &quot; says the mayor

&quot;sorry i am trying to give it up&quot;  says i to some merriment amongst the throng

didnt see his boyfriend though (allegedly)



 :coat:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: tommy toes</title>
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            <description>It's race week next week. When I was about 18 it used to cost about 10s (50p) to get in the second enclosure at Donny Races and about 3s (15p) to get in the town end at OBV.
Nowadays it's almost twice as much to watch 90 mins at the KMS as spending the whole afternoon at the races. 
And the fall in attendances has hit racing just as hard as football. 
People have so many leisure choices these days, we'll never get back to the 20,000 crowds we got in the late 60's when we had a mini good run.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108366</link>
            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
  Their off spring would look like Nosferatu or BST


 

How many times do I have to tell thi? I am, in reality on a par with George Clooney in looks. Women wet themselves involuntarily when I sit next to them on the bus. I just put this picture on to stop the rest of you feeling like second-raters.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: wing commander</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108365</link>
            <description>I agree Alias,he is a very good player no doubt about it.However we have a budget and i cant see him getting a regular game here and we  need players who can slot in straightaway and this lad has an awful lot to learn.He was ok against Bristol but for me put a lot of effort in the wrong areas and was inconspicuos in his other appearances.We play CHAMPIONSHIP football the times when we could afford to play a raw kid are now limited unless they are exceptional and im afraid at the minute he offers us nothing differant to what we have.I am sure he will mature into a very good player.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>That's why I posted it.

Seriously though, I thought all of them were. Well I'm buggered if not. I would have to guess the Cowboy, the leather biker and the construction worker have tasted sparra...........ooooooh I just cannot pick one from those 3.

Is this a trick question</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108363</link>
            <description> Glyn_Wigley wrote: 
 &quot;Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public&quot;

And since when did the 'Donny Public' owe us anything? Never, therefore they haven't failed anybody, least of all us. 

Agreed.

Just to clarify though, that the above has not been said by Ryan (before people load their guns), merely an opinion/quote from Norfolk.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Thinwhiteduke</title>
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            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 
However, we cannot assume he's gay, just like we cannot assume these fella mi lads are:

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2008/02/villagepeople.jpg 

Cussy.

Only one of The Village People were Gay. But do you know which one?  ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: Chris</title>
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            <description>Aaron Jones is a full back, if Football Manager is right.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: Shawndrfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108360</link>
            <description>Brett Lucas is a CB.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>He looks 'deeply dippy about the things you say' to me. I'm sure some MP's are worried about the size of their majority than being honest and true to themselves.

I think Mandy and William would make a lovely couple and bridge a great political divide. Their off spring would look like Nosferatu or BST


However, we cannot assume he's gay, just like we cannot assume these fella mi lads are:

http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/files/2008/02/villagepeople.jpg</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: Filo</title>
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            <description> BLIR wrote: 
 William Hague gay?

[IMG]http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/Neil_R/Jokes/Hague/hague.jpg[/IMG]

Doesn't look remotely gay to me  :-D 



Bent as an Arabs Dagger if you ask me!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
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            <description>I don't see the issue to be honest, what goes on in his hotel room makes no odds to me as long as he gets the blooming job right.  He's one of the few politicians that actually are quite honest and likeable.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Glyn_Wigley</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108356</link>
            <description>&quot;Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public&quot;

And since when did the 'Donny Public' owe us anything? Never, therefore they haven't failed anybody, least of all us.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: DRFCDANNY</title>
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            <description>i only know one of them and that is that grayson plays striker :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108354</link>
            <description> Snods Shinpad 2 wrote: 
  NigelJ wrote: 
  MrFrost wrote: 
 
You reckon we'll have several? I'll bet that we don't have one. 

How much are you betting? I'll take you up on that offer. Shall we say £100? 

Not the first time Frosty has offered a wager on this topic and has disappeared into the shadows when someone takes up the bet. 

He's already taken up my bet that will go to charity when it does happen.  Whether he pays or not?

Back on topic, why doesn't the club utilise people like me?  I need work experience, just finished a business and finance degree and would work on a project for the club for either a small fee or even voluntary as it would boost my CV. It would help me get experience and allow the club some cheap labour.  I'm going to write them a letter and e-mail saying the same, let's see if I get a reply.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: big fat yorkshire pudding</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108353</link>
            <description>This has really annoyed me.  The prices are too high, that is a fact.  Look at our average when we had them at a reasonable rate 2 seasons ago.  The average was 12,000 and we had near enough 10,000 at every home game.  This season the average will be lower and we've had 9000 and 82000 home fans at the last two.  That's a 1500 drop.  The club will be making more money and good for them, but what's more important, money or a growing fan base.  5 years ago the fan base was important and fans were valued much, much more.  Free things for STH, cheaper prices and we were growing very well.  That growth potential is still there, but the club just won't be proactive, innovative and go away from the footballing trends.

Why do we have to do what every other club has done.  I doubt many would care if the wage bill was lower to finance a bigger crowd, for many a full KMS watching a slightly less expensive assembled squad would be far more enjoyable and our club is going the way of others and that saddens me.  We'll fall away and become another Swindon or Oldham when in reality we could become a club like Watford or Burnley.  Surely that is the ultimate aim.  We'll never be Man Utd but we can be much better than what we are now.  It really frustrates me that the board won't be proactive.  I'd rather have not spent 1M on Sharp and seen that ploughed into ticketing incentive schemes and club development, but the club doesn't seem to want to develop.  Why can't the club be innovative and attract people.  I know plenty who would go at a lower price, moot £28 at them or £400+ for a season ticket and they'll laugh in your face.

The board should take note of us, we're the fans we know.  When I started watching Rovers it was no promotion or nothing, just saw a guy in a shirt in town back in the Conference days and asked him about it.   Four of us went down and from there we became fans.  It was £1 for me as a kid that day.  How many 14 year olds have £14 that they can pay on the day after finding out Rovers are playing?  NOt many.

The incentive isn't there, it shouldn't be expected that people want to watch football, we need to attract them.  But £14 for an U16?  I only earnt £10 a week from my paper round at that age with little pocket money.  It's crazy and until the club wakes up and decides to be proactive and innovative there will be no growth in the fanbase.  Really, they're hoping we get that class season, publicity through the media and a challenge at the top so people will pay the price to see a winning team, that's a gamble and it's the wrong strategy, it really is.  There's only Blackpool and Burnley in recent years managed it, it's a tough ask of SOD and I believe he's getting mighty frustrated by it.  His comments today suggest he feels he's done all he can, it really wouldn't surprise me to see him move on and that is very sad.  When it happens, the club only has itself to blame.  ON the pitch we're good, off it - not good at all.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108352</link>
            <description>William Hague gay?

[IMG]http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv342/Neil_R/Jokes/Hague/hague.jpg[/IMG]

Doesn't look remotely gay to me  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108346#108351</link>
            <description>After supping 14 pints, I personally would not be responsible for where my tackle ended up.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:William Hague - by: jonrover</title>
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            <description>I don't think he has any questions to answer. Any bloke who can sup 14 pints of ale a day surely can't be gay. Now, if it was 14 Pink Squirrel Martini's....</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Irish Branch</title>
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            <description>Take the average earnings of these DRFC fans he is on about, go to upper level of the average, say 25K per anum, that means that if said &quot;Fan&quot; goes to every home league game, and is not a season ticket holder, he spends around 2.3% of his Gross income on watching DRFC, per anum. That figure of course increases should salary / wage level decrease.

Its ok Ryan and the rest of the board saying &quot;we do our bit&quot; by funding a million for BS and making up the shortfall in expenditure, but, does the &quot;funding&quot; from those folk come to any more in % terms of their wealth, than the average fans % of income. I think not.

The board are in a privelidge position, having built businesses up, sold them on and made oodles of cash, bet the average fan has little savings of note, so 2.3 - 4.3 % is equally as difficult to part with as is JR 4% , or 1.4%, or 0.25% of the other &quot;Main&quot; directors wealth.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: jonrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108348</link>
            <description>I don't know where to even begin with this one!

Lets get the facts straight here and please pull me up if I am incorrect. Ryan said we have the biggest transfer budget in our history only months ago. The Billy Sharp transfer in theory did not implicate this budget since our directors financed the deal between themselves. And now were told there's no money for transfers or loan deals? I stood literally 5 yards form Ryan at Askern and he clearly stated there were 3 Premier League players coming here on season long loans. It seems this might have been a shit attempt at pushing season ticket sales. Does Mr Ryan think us supporters are entirely thick? Last season it was &quot;mouthwatering signings&quot;, this season &quot;Biggest transfer budget in history&quot;, &quot;going 4 it&quot; in previous seasons. I'll tell you something for nothing, I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth any more. Savour or not, he needs to learn to keep his trap shut and stop building peoples hopes up.

Does he believe slagging of the towns public for not coming will increase attendances? Lets get things into perspective here. We're ready to be plunged back into recession, with Doncaster likely to be hit hard. Leisure activities are not important and you can't blame people for not going to football in times like these. Also, what have the marketing department really done to increase attendances? Have they targeted the large Eastern European population? Free tickets for school kids/youth clubs/youth football teams thus increasing adult revenue? Have they shite. I wouldn't pay the twats is shirt buttons.
 
I have really had to push the boat out this season to get my season ticket, so much so that we haven't been away this summer apart from a grotty caravan at Cleggy for 2 nights. One things for sure though, if that is his attitude I won't be doing the same next year. I'll pick and choose my games as my pocket dictates.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:OK Gang. Here you go - by: dknward2</title>
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            <description>That's what floating fans want to hear

Thank god we know better fingers crossed we have a decent cup run or get at least in playoffs extra income is needed it seems</description>
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            <title>Subject: William Hague - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
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            <description>1) William Hague, against all Government guidlines, employs a young, inexperienced male special adviser. (Ministers are only supposed to have two special advisers - this one was his third.)

2) On official trips away, they share a twin room.

3) William Hague is absolutely, categorically NOT gay and nothing happened between them.

So, why has the special advisor now resigned?

If he's resigned because he should never have been employed in the first place, then his employer (Hague) should be held to account for chucking away a £40k salary while the rest of us are being told to tighten our belts.

If he's resigned just because the media have started asking difficult questions of the bloke that took him on, then Hague comes out of this appearing to have the backbone of a jellyfish. Not exactly what you want from a Foreign Secretary who will have to engage in the toughest of negotiations around the world.

I can't think of any other reason why he would have resigned.

But, whatever the reason for his resignation, Hague has some questions to answer.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Rovers App. - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>Proper bo, ah tell thee. All that on the old dog and bone.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: OllyDawes</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108344</link>
            <description>Thanks for all your responses.

I agree that Doncaster have been underrated for too long now. Players like Woods, Stock and Coppinger were just silly on FIFA10 so I hope you'll like what I've done so far.

With regards to the youth players, what position do they play etc? The website has no info on them, makes it difficult for me to create them with no reference picture or description or anything.

Thanks,
Olly.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: mutleyrover</title>
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            <description>Surely the only way to discover the effect of prices on attendances is to give it a go.  Pick what I assume would be a cat A match such as the Barnsley game on 4th December and charge £20 or £22 for a ticket.  Review the differential on the attendance figure from other cat A games and an estimation of the Barnsley attendance at £28 and do the maths.

This may be a particularly attractive match to choose as it is in the run up to Christmas.

It may be too late to change prices for this season, but the club can still select a lower categorisation of match.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
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            <description>There has to be a balance in Squad size and Quality that will take to the field. This is an unhelpful position Doncaster find themselves in due to our size/finances. 

In one hand we could have a huge squad with plenty of back up, but lose many games as the first 11 is not strong enough. I am sure many would demand the first 11 quality is improved and to sacrifice one or two of the overall squad.


On the other hand, we could have 13 class first team players and then 13 Mr Averages, who shall we say 'do a job, are 100% committed, good honest pro's' and all the other narratives they use. If we lose 3-4 of the first team class players it may have a knock on effect to the whole balance when the so called lesser lights come in.


Me, I think the balance is good for where we are and where we are at. I am sure Sean will say different, but don't all managers want 30 odd class players in their squad.

I think we have cover in every department to cope with suspensions and  short term  injuries.

If we can get something, I would go for JET. He can play a multitude of positions and gives you class almost everywhere. For the price of one he could save us getting 1-2-3 players in</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108341</link>
            <description>I think the board are waiting to see how things pan out. For example let's say we are in the bottom three in January and the team is obviously struggling. Do you think John et al won't dip into their considerable pot to try and avoid relegation?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Pompey away - by: inSODwetrust</title>
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            <description>Is this a serious thread? If so, get it sorted, could be very handy! If not, come back in a few years when we're in the Europa League please Robin! 


 :scarf:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: River Don</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108339</link>
            <description>What is the point of moaning about and at the Donny public in the local press?

It won't make them any more likely to attend. 

If anything it'll do the opposite.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108338</link>
            <description> Norfolk N Chance wrote: 
 See free press - no money for loans / transfers 

Poor attendances to blame - I agree with JR &quot;Dont think we would get any more through if we were top of league!&quot;.

People that suffer me and you - genuine fans let down the above! 


Well JR can kiss my carrot if that's his attitude. It's the price of football that driving folk away.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: DearneValleyRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108337</link>
            <description>This topic is raked over again and again, we lost at least a generation of fans because of firestarter and it will take just as long to get them back. Look at the amount of youngsters who now don the Red and White Hoops but as yet do not have the finances to come to matches. It will be 2015 at the earliest before we see the benefits and increased attendances as long as we maintain where we are. 

The other point to make is don't believe everything you read about finances.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108336</link>
            <description>I'm not sure that &quot;suffer&quot; is the right word?

We are playing at the highest level we ever have, with an exciting squad capable of beating anyone on our day. Even without any further signings (and there's still the loan market to consider - something we did very well out of last year) we have recently signed our most expensive ever player and have assembled a quality squad.

Maybe some people have unrealistic expectations?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108335</link>
            <description>This is where foresight comes into play. I got a Honda Civic which doesn't have a rear wipe which therefore can't be stolen  :-D 

Doesn't need one - the rear visibility is that bad it makes no difference if the window is filthy or not   </description>
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            <title>Subject: England ticket £20 - by: Fanatical Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108334#108334</link>
            <description>Final offer. Any takers please</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:04:32 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Genuine Fans failed by the Donny Public - by: Norfolk N Chance</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108333#108333</link>
            <description>See free press - no money for loans / transfers 

Poor attendances to blame - I agree with JR &quot;Dont think we would get any more through if we were top of league!&quot;.

People that suffer me and you - genuine fans let down the above!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: bobjimwilly</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108332</link>
            <description> DonnyBazR0ver wrote: 
 What about those Hull fans who said on their forum they would not pay £28. 

Do we tell them all to f**k off, you're not wanted here.
Go and find something else to do on a Saturday ? Peasants. 

To me it looked like Hull (almost) filled their allocation?  :S</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: Alan Southstand</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108331</link>
            <description> Therefore, one could say we have considerably improved the quality that takes to the field. 

That's why I originally said 'squad'! (The clue is in the question). ;) 

We already had Billy and Simon at some stage last season and yes, if we make similar loan signings this season (say, for example, JET and the equivalent of Shackell) then I believe we'll be fine. At the moment we're OK, but just OK. A sending off and a couple of injuries will put pay to 'just OK' though.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:OK Gang. Here you go - by: Alan Southstand</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108317#108330</link>
            <description>Budget.......what budget?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:footballers who left a foot in - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108284#108329</link>
            <description> Muttley wrote: 
 As heard on the Pop Side...

Woman: &quot;Come on, get a foot in&quot;

Bloke: &quot;A foot? Tha'll get 6 inches as usual and be happy wi' it&quot; 

 :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Moore Shit - by: DearneValleyRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108303#108328</link>
            <description>Luke Moore has a worse scoring record than Lewis Guy and would be on far higher wages, thanks but no thanks.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108327</link>
            <description> danny1 wrote: 
 Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a 

When was that? About ten years ago when they were playing the likes of Kidderminster and Boston in their tinpot little stadium. Sadly, these days they charge £25 but play the likes of Sheffield United and Coventry in their tinpot little stadium.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: RoversAlias</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108326</link>
            <description> Jonathan wrote: 
 How harsh for people to write him off already! 

He's a young lad, he showed a lot of promise against Bristol, I didn't go to Cardiff so I can't comment on that one, either way that's only two 'part' games and he's just a kid in new surroundings so it's far far too early to pass judgement. I saw enough talent, technique and awareness in the Bristol game to know he has the potential to be a good player, he's here on a loan deal similar to Mutch where he doesn't have to play every game but I think he will have a part to play over the course of time. In interview he sounded like an intelligent lad with the right attitude, give him the chance to settle and make an impact. 

I'm not writing him off, merely disagreeing with the statement that he was brilliant against Bristol. He wasn't, he looked promising in the first half and in short spells but didn't offer a great deal significant to the play. If he has gone then fine, I don't think we need him, if he is staying fine because we need as many squad members as we can get, since we are so susceptible to injuries.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:FAO - Paul Mayfield - by: retford rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108323#108325</link>
            <description>9.30 to QPR departure from the Keepmoat mate
Watford bus leaves at 9.45 from Keepmoat for those interested.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:OK Gang. Here you go - by: RobTheRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108317#108324</link>
            <description>Shhhhh.

Ahem... yes, he is proper skint.  Poorer than a church mouse, I'd say.</description>
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            <title>Subject: FAO - Paul Mayfield - by: donnygreenjeans</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108323#108323</link>
            <description>Hi paul.

Dont suppose you know what time the coaches will be leaving the keepmoat for the match at Q.P.R.? I've just found out that i'm due to finish work on that saturday morning and if you know the time paul then i can arrange a earlier time to finish work.

Cheers mate.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108322</link>
            <description> Does anyone seriously think that by charging £5 less that we would have filled the ground ? 

For mathematical purposes assume the 6000 paying customers paid £28. Revenue = £168000

To beat that revenue charging £5 less how many do you need ?

7304. Yes only 1300 more paying £23 would have increased the revenue. So an attendance in the region of 12400. 

So what do I tell the 5 people I know that would have turned up had it been priced lower. What's your message to all the others that people on here know who would have attended ?

What about those Hull fans who said on their forum they would not pay £28. 

Do we tell them all to f**k off, you're not wanted here.
Go and find something else to do on a Saturday ? Peasants.

Might be a bit extreme, but just trying to demonstrate that as it stands, attendances are likely to decrease. If the club finds a way of helping fans, attendances will go up and, they don't need to rise that much to have a positive effect on revenue.</description>
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            <title>Subject: JET Watch - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108321#108321</link>
            <description>Come on Jay, stop pissing about now, and let's have thee back here, up t'North


JAY JAY THE JET PLANE (http://www.arsenal.com/reserves-youth/players/jay-emmanuel-thomas)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:OK Gang. Here you go - by: DannyRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108317#108320</link>
            <description>is SOD having us on?</description>
            <pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:38:43 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:An interesting read - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108319</link>
            <description>Oops, another one that was wrongly hung then.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:New Signing - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108134#108318</link>
            <description>Well done boys. I had you both down for the other team to be honest.</description>
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            <title>Subject: OK Gang. Here you go - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108317#108317</link>
            <description>Free Press


01 September 2010
By Peter Catt
THE transfer deadline passed by quietly for Doncaster Rovers this week with only teenager Josh Payne moving out on loan.
And the prospect of Sean O'Driscoll strengthening his squad looks slim as the Doncaster boss frankly told the Free Press - &quot;we haven't got any money to spend&quot;.


LINK (http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free-press-sport/Boss-has-no-money-to.6507651.jp)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108316</link>
            <description>Personally, I have no argument in bringing in loans for cover, but what floats my boat are the loans that will be better than what we have already and cement a place in the side or are brought in to play as much as possible. In recent times that would be JET, Billy, Mills, Stock.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: hoolahoop</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055#108315</link>
            <description> CusworthRovers wrote: 
 Squad strength/size I would agree  may  be weaker to some, however the class level has risen IMO, which is equally/if not more important.

Forget loans and concentrate on the ones that are ours:

Class out = Roberts

Class in = Billy, Thomas, Friend, Payne, Gillett. 

The argument for the incomings is subjective in respect of class/quality, as time will tell on that, but IMO 4 of those will be regular first teamers. I can only think of Roberts who was released and, who was a first team regular. Therefore, one could say we have considerably improved the quality that takes to the field. 

Of course we have Cussie , only a fool would deny that we just need a bit more depth and we've cracked it (notwithstanding injuries to vital players)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Wayne Thomas - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108298#108314</link>
            <description>I was thinking the same.

Tuesday was the D day for determining the extent of his injury. I will allow 1 day for him to come home from London, speak with the club physio/management and then hopefully DROS will have something up on Thursday..............after all it was touch and go if he would be out for a long time ie massive news for the fans.


Roll on Free Press in the morning</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055#108313</link>
            <description>Squad strength/size I would agree  may  be weaker to some, however the class level has risen IMO, which is equally/if not more important.

Forget loans and concentrate on the ones that are ours:

Class out = Roberts

Class in = Billy, Thomas, Friend, Payne, Gillett. 

The argument for the incomings is subjective in respect of class/quality, as time will tell on that, but IMO 4 of those will be regular first teamers. I can only think of Roberts who was released and, who was a first team regular. Therefore, one could say we have considerably improved the quality that takes to the field.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: hoolahoop</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108312</link>
            <description>Unless you can tackle the following points imo you are aiming the gun in the wrong direction :-

1) Players wages (exorbitantly too high at every level)
2) Agents fees (as above but should be paid by the players)
3) Unfair distribution of SKY monies (most of it goes to the Prem.)
4) Financial mismanagement of most clubs (seeking the above usually)

Does anyone seriously think that by charging £5 less that we would have filled the ground ?
If so you are deluding yourselves, we had major difficulties selling a reasonable amount of tickets for the biggest day in our history for over 50 years at Wembley and this was against Leeds Utd.
The Rovers board have very little room for manoeuvre on this subject and most if not all of you realise it. We clamoured for BS and we paid a £1 million for him, sorry folks it needs paying for however unpalatable. The wage bill has increased, there are few other income flows and we are in a recession.....what would you have them do ??</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:footballers who left a foot in - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108284#108311</link>
            <description>This thread has got me thinking a bit about how good the current Dutch team would be if Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben could use their respective left and right feet. If they could, they might well have won this years World Cup, instead of being bitter losers who went around kicking every Spanish player.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:footballers who left a foot in - by: Muttley</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108284#108310</link>
            <description>As heard on the Pop Side...

Woman: &quot;Come on, get a foot in&quot;

Bloke: &quot;A foot? Tha'll get 6 inches as usual and be happy wi' it&quot;</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: jucyberry</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108309</link>
            <description>And that is just why you like me....lol...It's one of my charms, that if pushed I can out Cussy, Cussy...:)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:footballers who left a foot in - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108284#108308</link>
            <description>Les Ferdinand used to slip a foot in according to the rumours at the time.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:03:55 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108307</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 

Mr Egotistical left us in 2006, and since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!! 

Yeah, it tells you he's a good Championship player who belongs at this level.

Sign him up!  :scarf:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Moore Shit - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108303#108306</link>
            <description>Definitely.

Both very good Championship players.

Wages could be an issue though, particularly with Shittu.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:55:38 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108305</link>
            <description> jucyberry wrote: 
 Must confess, I thought this was a follow on from Oslo's thread....  :-D 
 

By, but you Norfolk Yokels have foul minds. Foul.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: BillyStubbsTears</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108304</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 

Mr Egotistical left us in 2006, and since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!! 

Have you ever looked at Oster's track record before he joined us? He moved on outta town so quickly and so often, he made Kid Curry &amp; Hannibal Hayes (ask your grandads) look like staid suburban mortgage-paying, Neighbourhood Watch vice presidents.

Has HE not adapted to the O'Driscoll approach?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Moore Shit - by: dfo2010</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108303#108303</link>
            <description>Danny Shittu been realesed and Luke Moore not in West Broms 25 man squad . Could be useful players to have in the squad .</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108302</link>
            <description> Sprotyrover wrote: 
 Waterdale multi storey Car Park,Police said another also got done on there yesterday
£68 quid for a new one!   

Are the Police investigating this for you then? They're turning a blind eye to the woman who smashed me off the road and drove off by saying it's my word against hers.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Jonathan</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108301</link>
            <description> DonnyNoel wrote: 
 Putting aside the &quot;would he make the first 11&quot; debate... So what if he was a bench/squad player? As I've mentioned in other threads - we need a good squad to get promoted. A good first 11 got us to the fringe of the playoffs last season but a couple of runs of bad form and injuries cost us. With better players on the bench than we had last season we can start to address that problem. It would be fantastic if we could field the 11 that strolled by Hull every week and they play like that every week but over 46 games that won't happen. 

Keep plugging away mate, one day some of the people on here might realise we can't operate with an eleven man squad!

As for the McIndoe debate, I agree with those that have said he would be a quality addition to the squad. He's a clever player, a hard worker, and can offer support in both attack and defence. The day we become too good to find a place in the squad for a player like McIndoe will probably be the day I can no longer afford to attend any games.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: Jonathan</title>
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            <description>How harsh for people to write him off already! 

He's a young lad, he showed a lot of promise against Bristol, I didn't go to Cardiff so I can't comment on that one, either way that's only two 'part' games and he's just a kid in new surroundings so it's far far too early to pass judgement. I saw enough talent, technique and awareness in the Bristol game to know he has the potential to be a good player, he's here on a loan deal similar to Mutch where he doesn't have to play every game but I think he will have a part to play over the course of time. In interview he sounded like an intelligent lad with the right attitude, give him the chance to settle and make an impact.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: jucyberry</title>
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            <description>Must confess, I thought this was a follow on from Oslo's thread....  :-D 





There are some really shitty people out there..</description>
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            <title>Subject: Wayne Thomas - by: Alan Southstand</title>
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            <description>Wasn't he supposed to be seeing the specialist yesterday? I've seen absolutely nothing about it, if he has?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: Alan Southstand</title>
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            <description>I think he provided cover for Oster, but I'm not sure he'll be needed now. Its not what we need.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: Alan Southstand</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055#108296</link>
            <description>So, everyone thinks that, presently, the squad is stronger! Take a look at the numbers guys and take off those rose-tinted spectacles and then come back to me.

If we get the 2 loanees that have agreed to come, then we'll be somewhere near, I'll agree wholeheartedly with that, but until that happens, we are down in squad strength, whether you like it or not.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Nudga</title>
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            <description>:-D  Throw em a bone eh. Anyway ya bunch of fairies, stop being soooooo overly sensitive and grow a set o plumbs. It's like being in a bloody handbag factory with fifty hormonal birds. Lighten up FFs, jeez I only said I found it boring and I couldn't get past the opening paragraph.

There you go, another bone.    

Or was that a big spoon.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>He did play well v Bristol although he faded but you could say that about our other players too.

Not seen enough of Josh Payne or him to decide how they would figure when surrounded by our better players.

Similar with Jordan Mutch last season. Think they could all would fit in well with Oster, Stock, Copps etc. around them.

Of the three to date I think Jordan Mutch has the most potential as an all round midfielder as he could tackle,  get up and down and had an eye for goal.

Mason certainly has an eye for goal but not sure about doing the mucky bits.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: Branton Rover</title>
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            <description>I also think he's excellent just the quality &amp; the depth of our midfield currently is awesome meaning he won't force his way in at the moment.  Get him out on loan play some games he'll come back fitter &amp; raring to go everybody wins.  I really rate him, remember still only very young looks like he's got a bright future ahead of him hopefully with us</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: Shawndrfc</title>
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            <description>Yes Doncaster really do need to be stopped being seen as a 2 star club on fifa. Also martin woods hasnt been blonde for 2 - 3 years, so that needs sorting out.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: Shawndrfc</title>
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            <description>I agree with rtid88, he looked really good against city and said he could of got the man of the match award. Hopefully we will get him for the rest of the season.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description> I-was-there1976 wrote: 
  Rigoglioso wrote: 
 Although I can understand Barry Hearn's point, on the flip side higher ticket prices will not increase attendances either.

My view is football ticket prices in this country are a rip-off across the board. As far as I'm concerned, the maximum I will pay from now on to watch a football match is £20. Only in exceptional circumstances will I pay what I consider to be over the odds. 



Well football should take note.  Especially after reading this from a guy who lives and dreams football. If Rigo aint goin until it drops below £20 the admission prices must be too high. Thats not condescending either Rigo. 
This guy travels the length and breadth of the country to get games in.

Makes me laugh when Rovers fans say &quot;yeah but its the same price at all Championship clubs&quot;

Yes and its the same rip off at ALL clubs.


£8 to watch Matlock Town. £8 flippin quid to watch postmen, painters etc chase a ball around.
£18 quid in the confernce
£23 in league one. Its gone barmy i tell thee

Well done Rigo, join the &quot;How much ? Not paying that club&quot;

Lets hope more join and FOOTBALL does summat about it 

I must point out that with most of the games I go to, I can manage to get in for Student/Under 21 prices and not all clubs over-charge. From this season though, I'm just not prepared to pay more than £20 to watch a game.

Having been around the block a bit watching football, what I have generally found is that when clubs get promoted their admission prices rise. However, when the clubs are relegated, their admission prices either remain static or are only reduced marginally. Ultimately, my conclusion is that when a dozen or so of these relegated clubs have ended up in the same division, other clubs have increased their admission prices to a similar rate. Eventually, IMO, this will eventually lead to groundhog day when the amount of consumers that were once turning up every week can simply not afford to anymore.

At this moment, this is what I reckon is the average price of the cheapest ticket is, in all the divisions from the Premiership down to deep in the non-league.

- - - - -

 ENGLAND 

 Premiership:  £25 - £35. London clubs generally charge more - i.e. £35 is the cheapest at West Ham. 

 Championship:  £25 - £27. Some clubs charge more than others and range from Doncaster at £25 to Ipswich at £33.50 on match days.

 League One:  £20. I haven't watched much football at this level for a while, but this could be the next league to be hit by stonking price rises as teams relegated from the Championship drop into the league but don't amend their pricing structure.

 League Two:  £14 - £18. Some clubs are cheap at £15 or less, but others are slowly increasing their prices. This division also has lots of terraced areas unlike divisions above.

 Conference:  £13 - £16. Prices in this league have crept up in the past couple of seasons.

 Conf. North/South:  £10 - £11. Very few clubs at this level charge less than £10 these days. Some clubs (Harrogate and Hinckley to name two) charge above the &quot;general&quot; price of £10.

 Unibond/Southern/Ryman Premier:  £8 - £9. Some clubs charge £10, but they are few and far between. Most clubs charge around the £8 mark.

- - - - - 

 SCOTLAND 

 Scottish Premier League:  £18 - £23. Most clubs charge the cheapest price of £20 (St Mirren, St Johnstone and Hamilton being three of these clubs). However, some clubs charge lower prices below £20 (i.e. Hearts and Hibernian) are counteracted by others charging closer to the £25 mark (Aberdeen, Rangers, Celtic and Dundee United).

 Scottish First Division:  £16 - £17. Over-priced massively at this level as the quality of football on offer comes from the likes of Cowdenbeath and Raith Rovers. Most stadiums are all-seater though at this level.

 Scottish Second Division:  £13 - £14. Another division that is far too pricey.

 Scottish Third Division:  £10. Albion Rovers, Queens Park, etc. Cheapest division in Scottish football.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Adam</title>
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            <description> Ian H wrote: 
 

If you can be bothered to criticise why not make the effort to put up your own offering of the next home game. 
Such a childish remark.

The report is too long.

That is constructive critcism. Make it shorter.

 :S</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Boycie</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108288</link>
            <description>Don't think Copps would be happy if he came back.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Red wizard</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108287</link>
            <description> jmt wrote: 
 the perfect fit for us, making us a well balanced side and also giving friend some much needed support
he might just chip in with a goal or two too! 
How would he be a prefect fit for us? He is a winger and we don't use wingers. Goals he would get of that i am sure but not a perfect fit not imo anyway. Left back? not so sure. Workrate, teamwork, you couldn't get a better eg in a player but has he still got the leggs for it? he is 30 now or maybe 31 and i just don't see a place for him. But hey what do i know i am no manager.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108286</link>
            <description>So his social visit a few weeks back to see JR wasn't without purpose then.

Has he acquired a few more gambling debts or does he just see no future with Boothroyd and wants JR to rescue him ?

better to have him on loan rather than permanent then he can show us if he's anywhere near the player he was.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: Keith Myath</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108285</link>
            <description>It's a special tool to get the fascia off. But a couple of screwdrivers will do.

My Audi a4 back wiper broke, i spent best part of 4 hours getting the fascia off, mostly because i didn't know what i was doing. Anyway i removed the wiper and didn't replace it and have never needed too. passes mot without it as well.</description>
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            <title>Subject: footballers who left a foot in - by: oslorovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108284#108284</link>
            <description>a 10min clip on the players from yester years who
took no prisoners

that 1970 facup final replay with chelsea/leeds bad bad bad harris.

and a franny lee and mr gray pinch up in a derby v leeds game

http://www.theshedend.com/topic/14269-a-few-new-vintage-chelsea-clips/

 u will have to scroll down to correct clip BAD BOYS</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108106&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108283</link>
            <description>They are getting too young for me hows about some Milfettes!!!        </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: Sprotyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108282</link>
            <description>Waterdale multi storey Car Park,Police said another also got done on there yesterday
£68 quid for a new one!  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: Rigoglioso</title>
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            <description>I'd bring them back as well. They are better half time entertainment than Keepmoat TV.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108280</link>
            <description> I'd like to know what some people are smoking at the club. 

Some very good points on this thread. 

In my mind, if there is a chance that a game will be a sell-out or near sell out, then you can understand the club wanting to exploit that.

However, looking at our fixtures and, considering attendances of previous seasons there is only one fixture that comes close. Yes Leeds.

However, what needs to be considered is the flip side of that. Fans are not stupid and if they believe the club is trying to exploit them, just because it's a local derby etc, then they are more likely to say stuff you, if my £22 or £25 aint good enough, I'm not paying £28 !

So in effect, the club alienates both home and away fans by putting prices up resulting in the level of attendance we had on Saturday.

Rigo is right. For Joe public £20 is a price that is reasonable and anything above that needs to be considered.

The better strategy would be to weigh all this up before the season and stick to a policy that would fill more seats and make revenue irrespective of the opposition, and make it easier for the fans to plan ahead financially.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rear Wiper arm - by: i_ateallthepies</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108277#108279</link>
            <description>Where did it happen?  I have a golf and don't want to lose mine too.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: donnybez</title>
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            <description>I demand a petition!  B)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Rear Wiper arm - by: Sprotyrover</title>
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            <description>Some barsteward has stolen the rear wiper arm off of me Golf. Hayseldens say they have had three more this week go, the thief needs a special tool to remove the bloody things.

staff at VW dont think its owt to do with EBAY anybody got any clues as to whats occuring?  </description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:LOUD Noise Over Conisbrough About 15 Minutes Ago - by: retford rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108120#108276</link>
            <description>could have been the Awac early warning plane with the mushroom on top,, flew very low over the village North Leverton about 10 to 6    was very loud.  heading back to Waddington</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: redarmi66</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108275</link>
            <description>i would have him back and play him at left back(where he played at yeovil) instead of friend who im not sold on at the moment - he has the technical ability to slot right in(not sure friend has this ability)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108274</link>
            <description>good, i hope they push and push jr in the meeting to make him see sense and it might show some people at the rovers could do a better job at marketing.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description>It was supposed to be 5pm today, I think.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: redbrez</title>
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            <description>a yes from me too plus it fills another seven seats  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: donnybez</title>
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            <description>When will they all be announced fully?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: donnybez</title>
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            <description>Grayson i'd give him highish speed and Clark has good ball control and passing, i'd say Clarks a decent league 2 player at best at the moment but room for potential




Please please please stop rating Donny as a rubbish football side, we should have high passing attributes at least and be rated fairly good in comparison to the rest of the league</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: VikingJames</title>
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            <description> mutleyrover wrote: 
 I think a more interesting list would be those not selected in the 25 man squads.

It will be interesting to see if this ruling helps to lift the standard of player in the Championship.  The teams in our league this year are so evenly matched, the loan signings are once again, going to be key. 

Unfortunately, the ones left out that have been confirmed so far just seem to be those players with long-term injuries (Kightly, Sidibe etc)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: wilts rover</title>
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            <description> Alan Southstand wrote: 
 Chicken or egg, when it comes to attendances!

We have, in real terms, effectively weakened the squad so far this season. 


what by getting rid of players in whom the view on here was that they 'were not good enough'....come back Lewis Guy and Ben Smith - all is forgiven!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
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            <description>Deary me. I think you need to do the auditions and recruit  bushless Vikettes. Perhaps get some Brazillians in. Ha Ha !!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: kybone</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108055#108266</link>
            <description>I think in situations like this the club often shoots itself in the foot. Why did John Ryan have to come out and start shouting about having a big budget when he knows that fans will expect to see that backed up with big money signings. It wouldn't have been so bad if he hadn't have made it public knowledge that Billy Sharp was signed with cash straight form the directors pockets and was in ADDITION to the biggest ever budget. I assume it was all a publicity stunt to try to engineer more st sales but the fact is that fans respond to signings not big talk.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: DonnyBazR0ver</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108265</link>
            <description> we must have 1,000 to 3,000? previous season ticket holders after the last three or four seasons hat are not sth now.,could the club not contact these people with a letter and questionnaire why they ain't sth still or do they still attend games? 

The club have contacted a selection of ex ST holders (I don't know what percentage)seeking feedback on the reasons why they have not bought. No surprises in the response.

Gartom has confirmed that there is due to be a meeting soon to with JR to discuss these issues. There are plans in the pipeline to try and redress the balance with a scheme(s) which will be appealing to non ST holders without undermining the value of a season ticket.

However, being on the outside looking in, I have no idea when anything will be launched, how much the product(s) will be and how it will be marketed.(I hope they do reach out to those ex ST holders as we know the audience is there) 

These are key issues that the club needs to get right and, let's hope they get it more right than wrong this time.

I'm sure Gareth will be doing his upmost to ensure our voices are heard, or more importantly the voices of the silent ones who have already walked !</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: RoversAlias</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108264</link>
            <description>If he's retired to devote his life to God does this mean that he's signing for Perth Glory?

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2010/05/27/1225872/205176-pn-image-sport-robbie-fowler.jpg</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:12:49 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: RoversAlias</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108263</link>
            <description>He looked 'awesome'!? Man of the match by a long way!? What!?

He looked alright, but he wasn't in the game enough and then was completely anonymous at Cardiff. If he's gone back we aren't missing anything.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:11:45 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: mutleyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108262</link>
            <description>I think a more interesting list would be those not selected in the 25 man squads.

It will be interesting to see if this ruling helps to lift the standard of player in the Championship.  The teams in our league this year are so evenly matched, the loan signings are once again, going to be key.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108261</link>
            <description>Stop snapping? What do you think I am? Some kind of dinosaur with dental problems? All I have done is pointed out the downright bloody obvious at times, that if people don't want to read it, they don't have to! 

This is my last post in this thread anyway as we could be here forever and this thread has already reached the point where we are just going round in circles. I agree with Ian H, 110%.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Adam</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108260</link>
            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
 
Oh, and what was I saying about bias? You seem to be of the opinion that I am biased towards Rovers. Absolutely not the case.

Pot. Kettle. Black? 

See, defensive again. Why? Is there any need?

I didn't say it as a bad thing - you wouldn't come on a Rovers fansite and expect to read an unbiased report from a Rovers fan, would you? I was saying that's why people would sway towards your report rather than one written by an uninformed lazy journalist.

Stop snapping.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Ian H</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108259</link>
            <description> Constructive  criticism is generally kindly meant and has a goal of improving some area of another’s person’s life or work  

Describing a report as boring or over-long doesn't really fit into that category when the target audience is primarily not attending and are often keen to read several opinions on how a game went. 

If you can be bothered to criticise why not make the effort to put up your own offering of the next home game (or the Watford game if you want). If the exiles aren't worth your time and effort leave it to people like Rigo and prevent a four page thread from meandering along aimlessly when the exiles seem pretty much happy with Adriano's work?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108258</link>
            <description>Aye. Very constructive it were in the opening page of this thread.    

Oh, and what was I saying about bias? You seem to be of the opinion that I am biased towards Rovers. Absolutely not the case.

Pot. Kettle. Black?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Doncaster FIFA11 Stats. - by: DonnyOsmond</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107935&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108257</link>
            <description>Wow, some people seem to be overrating our players in this thread. The only players who could be close to 70 are Stock, Oster, O'Connor and Sharp. Coppinger, Woods and Chambers should be around 66/67ish.

As for those youngsters just put them around the same skill as any other previous youngsters we've had, like Fisher and Clarke's skill on it last season. The only thing we know about any of those is that Grayson is a striker.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: Adam</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108256</link>
            <description> Rigoglioso wrote: 
  snods big brother wrote: 
 I think Rigo is upset with the critisim reading the PM's he has sent me 

Wrong. I've said to you in at least three PM's that if you don't like it, don't read it. Your that bloody thick you don't seem to understand that concept though, and you go off to draw your own (wrong) conclusions.

My thoughts for the last day or so has been exactly what CusworthRovers has said above. 
If YOU'RE going to call someone thick, at least have the decency to use correct grammar.

As soon as someone criticised you went on the defensive. All they were saying is that the reports are too long and could find a more compact report elsewhere. Constructive criticism should be something to thrive upon, not reject.

A Rovers-biased report is good, but not a Rovers-biased hard back copy minute-for-minute commentary.

:)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Is he a &quot;wheeler dealer&quot;? - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108232#108255</link>
            <description>To be honest, I'd react like that if my team of multi-million pound talents had just lost at home to the current Wigan team.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:06:39 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: DonnyOsmond</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108254</link>
            <description> ljm-drfc wrote: 
 Anyone know if JET is in the Arsenal squad yet ?

Also interesting to see shalaum logan, who we had on trial is in the Manchester City squad! 

JET didn't need to be selected in the 25 as he's under 21.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:00:37 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108253</link>
            <description> ljm-drfc wrote: 
  Anyone know if JET is in the Arsenal squad yet ? 

Also interesting to see shalaum logan, who we had on trial is in the Manchester City squad! 

Under 21 players don't have to be included in the 25 to be able to play, so we won't actually find out, unless they register him to make up their quota for home-grown players.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: ljm-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108252</link>
            <description>Anyone know if JET is in the Arsenal squad yet ?

Also interesting to see shalaum logan, who we had on trial is in the Manchester City squad!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:52:54 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:LOUD Noise Over Conisbrough About 15 Minutes Ago - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108120#108250</link>
            <description>Perhaps it was the ball from Martin Woods' penalty miss arriving back in Doncaster with a load of volcanic rock attached to it.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:37:23 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Play for you Club (.com) - by: NigelJ</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=101432#108249</link>
            <description>C'mon, we're thumping Watford, but need some big hitters playing.....</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:37:18 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Michael Kightly - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108245#108248</link>
            <description>He's a class act, but do we really need another midfielder?</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:35:03 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Michael Kightly - by: Chris</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108245#108247</link>
            <description> Red Rover wrote: 
 With our relations with Wolves, might be worth a loan deal?

http:/ ews.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/wolverhampton_wanderers/8960432.stm 

What relations with Wolves? MM was talking shite to the media after we enquired about Keogh, stated he wouldn't be sent out on loan and then loans him out to a Championship rival.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Michael Kightly - by: Guernsey Exile</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108245#108246</link>
            <description>out injured til jan!!!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:18:21 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Michael Kightly - by: Red Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108245#108245</link>
            <description>With our relations with Wolves, might be worth a loan deal?

http:/ ews.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/wolverhampton_wanderers/8960432.stm</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:14:50 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: Guernsey Exile</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108244</link>
            <description>what time is the cut off!!!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:07:17 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=20#108243</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 That goes against everything SO'D believe's in surely!!!! 

I'm guessing not, otherwise an approach wouldn't have been made - SOD knows Macca's history after all!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:57:36 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Premier teams  listed 25 - by: jmt</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108242</link>
            <description>prehaps another dip into wolves?  </description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:56:08 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: jmt</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108241</link>
            <description>the perfect fit for us, making us a well balanced side and also giving friend some much needed support
he might just chip in with a goal or two too!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:53:05 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Is he a &quot;wheeler dealer&quot;? - by: wing commander</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108232#108240</link>
            <description>I like Harry absolutely class manager but that is a classic example why the likes of him and Cloughy always will be overlooked for the national job.However it would make the News Of the World a good sunday read when they start to get there teeth into him.lol</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: Rigoglioso</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108239</link>
            <description> Snods Shinpad 2 wrote: 
 I'd like to know what some people are smoking at the club.

Someone thinks making the Sheffield United game a Category A game is a good idea.     

You think £28 for our Category A game with Sheffield United is bad? £28 is nothing compared to what Sheffield United charge for their own Category A games!

Try £34 and a stadium that is absolutely disgraceful in comparison to ours.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: rtid88</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108238</link>
            <description>Wing Commander, have you actually seen this lad play, he looked awesome against Bristol City, Man of the Match by a long way and looked very comfortable when he came on against Hull on Saturday. A definite to keep for the rest of the season in case of any injuries to Copps, Oster or Woods.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:49:28 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: ctay</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108237</link>
            <description>Yes please for me. Better than Shiels? Yes, better than Hayter? Yes. Very good player. I always thought he would fit in well to a SOD system. 

He could play in the top three, midfield three and maybe even left back.

Would he fit in with the rest of the lads? Who knows.

Has he still got the desire? Worth a chance I think.

Maybe he needs a manager to put the arm round him.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:44:16 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Is he a &quot;wheeler dealer&quot;? - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108232#108236</link>
            <description>He needs to calm down tbh.

Even if he did take exception to one of the interviewers questions, he is a professional and doing those interviews is part of his job, and he shouldn't react like that.

It is funny though :D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Is he a - by: southstandclez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108232#108235</link>
            <description> Sheepskin Stu wrote: 
 He begs to differ...  :-D 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk&amp;feature=youtu.be  Some people just dont like to hear the truth  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108106#108234</link>
            <description>Is it a shadow or can you see some bush in that photo?</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:38:27 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: LongbridgeMGRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108106#108233</link>
            <description>bring back these budding flowers of Donny maidenhood,

...and Pan's People too.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:34:45 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Is he a &quot;wheeler dealer&quot;? - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108232#108232</link>
            <description>He begs to differ...  :-D 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk&amp;feature=youtu.be</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:32:38 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: wing commander</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108231</link>
            <description>I thought he had retired from playing ten minutes after joining us.lol</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:30:35 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: wing commander</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108230</link>
            <description>TBH he looked very much out of his depth to contribute at this level,nothing against his ability but i think he would be better playing at a lower level at this stage of his carear.The next 3 years will dictate wether he makes the big time or not so another run in div2 will give him a chance to standout.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:28:13 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Premier teams  listed 25 - by: DonnyRTID</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108229#108229</link>
            <description>Link for 25 man squads.


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=819764&amp;sec=england&amp;cc=5739</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:28:09 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108228</link>
            <description> NigelJ wrote: 
  MrFrost wrote: 
 
You reckon we'll have several? I'll bet that we don't have one. 

How much are you betting? I'll take you up on that offer. Shall we say £100? 

Not the first time Frosty has offered a wager on this topic and has disappeared into the shadows when someone takes up the bet.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:26:37 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Ryan Mason - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108227</link>
            <description>I think he makes an excellent backup to the midfield 4 or 5!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:22:20 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108106#108226</link>
            <description>As I said about Macca - their best is behind them    </description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:20:41 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108225</link>
            <description>Thankfully it has so far come to nothing - lets hope it stays that way - his best is behind him.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:19:46 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108224</link>
            <description>God and Football is very similar - you only work one day a week!

 :)</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:18:49 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: hatfield reg</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108223</link>
            <description>Why not let all season ticket holders bring a friend for £15 to see if we can generate a bit of interest. They could use vouchers out of your season ticket book.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108222</link>
            <description>I think Mutley has just summed it up in his last paragraph there!!!   :thumbsup:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:England v Bulgaria £25 - by: Fanatical Rover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108144#108221</link>
            <description>Indeed. Maybe they should reduce prices with it being category A game and being on televison. Can't see the away fans bringing many either. Sorry wrong post lol.

:P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108220</link>
            <description>You think he will struggle with team work? Have you never seen him play for us? He was the most hardworking member of our squad in his first stint with us, he always gave 100% to the team - there seems to be this myth that McIndoe only cares about McIndoe, that couldn't have been further from the truth back in the day!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: mutleyrover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108219</link>
            <description>As a loan deal would be worth giving a go.  Not sure about a permanent signing though as think he may struggle with the SOD team work ethic.

Plus what would it do for his Internationl career playing for small old Donny.  Would surely be better off at a bigger club like Barnsley.  ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: NigelJ</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108218</link>
            <description> MrFrost wrote: 
  NigelJ wrote: 
  danny1 wrote: 
 Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a 

What a totally misleading statement.  

Scunthorpe do not charge £15 for every game, just the same as we don't charge £28 for every game.

In fact, we have £15 tickets for category 3 games. Although we haven't had any category 3 games yet, we will, no doubt, have several later in the season. Just look at the fixture list. All of our local derbies, and bigger draw teams have fallen in the first part of the season, hence why all games up to now have been category 1 or 2. I will bet that the Swansea game will be category 3, and several in 2011.

Another thing which is annoying me with all these discussions, is the continual 'I'm not paying £28 to watch a football match' comments. You don't have to.  Get a Category B seat, and pay £25 . Continually mentioning the £28 price for category 1 games is misleading to anyone reading this board. They would think that this is the only price, when it is in fact, the top price for the top category seats in the top category games.

Rant over. 

You reckon we'll have several? I'll bet that we don't have one. 

How much are you betting? I'll take you up on that offer. Shall we say £100?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:England v Bulgaria £25 - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108144#108217</link>
            <description>Cheaper than Rovers v Sheff United!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:25:23 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: tommy toes</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108216</link>
            <description>I wonder if he's be quitting for God if he was still on 5 grand a week at Hull.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108215</link>
            <description> 5minstogo wrote: 
 The pricing strategy won't be changed this season, it would be unfair to those who have purchased season tickets. (Which for the first time in years I am not)

The prices have been submitted to the Football League and as far as I am aware there are a limited amount of times that you can offer special price reductions.

So thats it for this season, if it causes reduced attendances who knows. No doubt we'll get told we don't deserve a successful team. 

I reckon prices will go up a quid when the VAT is increased in January.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: MrFrost</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108214</link>
            <description> NigelJ wrote: 
  danny1 wrote: 
 Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a 

What a totally misleading statement.  

Scunthorpe do not charge £15 for every game, just the same as we don't charge £28 for every game.

In fact, we have £15 tickets for category 3 games. Although we haven't had any category 3 games yet, we will, no doubt, have several later in the season. Just look at the fixture list. All of our local derbies, and bigger draw teams have fallen in the first part of the season, hence why all games up to now have been category 1 or 2. I will bet that the Swansea game will be category 3, and several in 2011.

Another thing which is annoying me with all these discussions, is the continual 'I'm not paying £28 to watch a football match' comments. You don't have to.  Get a Category B seat, and pay £25 . Continually mentioning the £28 price for category 1 games is misleading to anyone reading this board. They would think that this is the only price, when it is in fact, the top price for the top category seats in the top category games.

Rant over. 

You reckon we'll have several? I'll bet that we don't have one.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108213</link>
            <description>The problems I see are:

- For the bigger clubs, you will get fans going no matter what the price for most games, the likes of Man United/Liverpool/Arsenal etc have that many arm chair 'glory' fans that they would love the opportunity to get to the games and would thrive on everyone else deciding not to go

- For the smaller clubs, you have a hardcore element who will go regardless of price and wouldn't want to miss a game to prove a point

It could be arranged, I just think there are too many fanatics who wouldn't buy into it, myself included.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: Nudga</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108212</link>
            <description>Silly, silly move. Everyone knows that God doesn't pay well. Then again, he's just like any other boss, never seen, always gets others to do the work for them and pays them in peanuts (or bread and wine if ya lucky).</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Superspy</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108211</link>
            <description> Redandwhitewhizards wrote: 
 It would never happen though Filo, because there will always be people who are willing to pay the prices, whatever the cost. 

but it might be enough to make football clubs wake up a little bit....

christ alive, if half a million people on facebook can get rage against the machine to number 1 im sure a football boycott could be arranged with the proper planning.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:53:16 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers new - by: bradford exile</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107570&amp;limit=20&amp;limitstart=60#108210</link>
            <description> Florida Rover wrote: 
 Rigo

Coming from Ray you may expect his sentiments to truly reflect all of our best wishes for the effort you put in writing your reports that are so welcomed here abroad. Most complaints seem to be coming from those who can make the games without several thousand miles barring them so please ignore theit self acclaimed importance and please let us know who you be handing the role to when you leave shortly for University.

Please accept our thanks for helping to bridge the large gap that per necessity exists between where we reside and work and Doncaster Rovers. 



Cheers mate Much appreciated and for any of you exiles out there who still havent joined my mailing list for reports and news articles, send me a pm and I'll gladly add you on

Regards

Ray</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Stuart Elliot Retires - by: VikingJames</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108209</link>
            <description>It's a shame really. Would have been a good player for us if it wasn't for his asthma.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:31:17 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:When does the loan transfer-window shut? - by: dknward2</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108150#108208</link>
            <description>We will not sign any one at least until 10th so we don't have to pay a weeks wages with them just training</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:29:55 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: bradford exile</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108106#108207</link>
            <description>Why would being a family club cause the axe to fall on the Vikettes???????.

someone in the marketing department should pay a visit to the Bradford Bulls or Leeds Rhinos and see their Rugby League Pre match and half time entertainments...Beats the football teams efforts by a country mile.

And yes they are family orientated clubs.

Regards


Ray</description>
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            <title>Subject: Stuart Elliot Retires - by: ptaylor-red</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108206#108206</link>
            <description>Former Doncaster Rovers winger Stuart Elliott has announced that he has retired from playing football. He is currently playing on loan at Stirling Albion from SPL club Hamilton Academical, but a statement on the Accies' website said: &quot;The club have this morning released Stuart Elliott by mutual agreement. Northern Irish internationalist Stuart was signed from Doncaster Rovers in January and made 7 appearances last season before having a loan spell at Stirling. He had been injured pre-season and hadn't figured, but is now fit. The club wish him all the best for the future.&quot;
Elliott is a &quot;born again Christian&quot;, and the Belfast Telegraph has reported that he has quit football to devote his life to God.


www.doncasterrovers.com</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:27:27 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:When does the loan transfer-window shut? - by: Irish Branch</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108150#108205</link>
            <description>Until 22 nd November.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 14:16:22 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Ryan Mason - by: Yorkshire Lad</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108204#108204</link>
            <description>Has this young lad headed back to Spurs now? Would like to see him keep put for rest of the season from what i have seen of him from the Bristol game he was very impressive.</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:57:41 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:When does the loan transfer-window shut? - by: Chris</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108150#108203</link>
            <description>Opens next week and stays open until late November I think.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108202</link>
            <description>Common courtesy Nigel, seen as though we pay their wages and all that, also for the Preston game it was on there.  :thumbsup:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: NigelJ</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108201</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 ... since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!! 

Yes, he has plenty of Championship experience, having played at this level for a number of years.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: NigelJ</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108200</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 Has anybody got any info on travel for Watford away please, e.g. Coach prices, departure times.  Nothing on DROS, (surprise surprise)  

That could be because it is the Supporters Club / Travel Club etc that run coaches, not the football club.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: NigelJ</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108199</link>
            <description> danny1 wrote: 
 Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a 

What a totally misleading statement.  

Scunthorpe do not charge £15 for every game, just the same as we don't charge £28 for every game.

In fact, we have £15 tickets for category 3 games. Although we haven't had any category 3 games yet, we will, no doubt, have several later in the season. Just look at the fixture list. All of our local derbies, and bigger draw teams have fallen in the first part of the season, hence why all games up to now have been category 1 or 2. I will bet that the Swansea game will be category 3, and several in 2011.

Another thing which is annoying me with all these discussions, is the continual 'I'm not paying £28 to watch a football match' comments. You don't have to.  Get a Category B seat, and pay £25 . Continually mentioning the £28 price for category 1 games is misleading to anyone reading this board. They would think that this is the only price, when it is in fact, the top price for the top category seats in the top category games.

Rant over.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Padge_DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108198</link>
            <description>I forgot all about him because of how well Mccammon did for years on the left.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: philsky</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108197</link>
            <description>I'll go and collect him.

Not a bad squad player Id say, and his ability would galvanise an already excellent midfield.

And yes, could do a damn fine job at left back.

RTID</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Worth a punt? - by: Padge_DRFC</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108187#108196</link>
            <description>what about jay demerrit on a free?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Worth a punt? - by: snods big brother</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108187#108195</link>
            <description>Probably not worth a punt then</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: podrover73</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108194</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 Has anybody got any info on travel for Watford away please, e.g. Coach prices, departure times. Nothing on DROS, (surprise surprise) 


Try the away travel section category at the bottom of page that has all the details</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: wing commander</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108193</link>
            <description>I think he would make a great left back as well,always liked a tackle..I have spoken to Macca a number of times when he was here and a couple after he left,and he has always been complimentary about his time here.
  He had a rep for being a bit cocky but i dont mind that in a player,although i suspect he's grown up a bit now.A coventry fan told me that he started off really well at Cov but struggled with injuries and a change of manager hasnt helped him either,nothing from them to say he has caused trouble so far..
  Go get him,thats what i say although that might have something to do with the fact id rather have Lewis Guy at left back  than Friend.lol</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: roversam</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108192</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 Sorry Graham  :P  Thats a surprise surprise, ;)  Do i know you  :-O</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108191</link>
            <description>Sorry Graham  :P</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Worth a punt? - by: roversam</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108187#108190</link>
            <description>Yes, just confirmed on ssn, out till january.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Worth a punt? - by: besty</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108187#108189</link>
            <description>Think hes been left out coz hes injured mate</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Watford away - by: roversam</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108188</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 Has anybody got any info on travel for Watford away please, e.g. Coach prices, departure times. Nothing on DROS, (surprise surprise)  I didnt know you were a rovers fan Cilla  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Worth a punt? - by: ljm-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108187#108187</link>
            <description>Micheal Kightly not in 25 man Wolves squad, ready to go out on loan

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/01/wolves-michael-kightly-25-man</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:18:23 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Watford away - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108186#108186</link>
            <description>Has anybody got any info on travel for Watford away please, e.g. Coach prices, departure times. Nothing on DROS, (surprise surprise)</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:15:52 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108185</link>
            <description>Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! 1 Minute ago     
inSODwetrust wrote:

Mr Egotistical left us in 2006, and since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!!


Yes, he hasn't been able to settle - quite possibly because of his ego and temperament.

However, I can remember how good he was for us and he's a good shout for a loan deal in my book.

As I said previously, if he doesn't perform or upsets the team he can be sent back 


That goes against everything SO'D believe's in surely!!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: danny1</title>
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            <description>Just wished We had scunny ticket prices. Adults 15 pound and under 18 5a</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108183</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 Mr Egotistical left us in 2006, and since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!! 

Yes, he hasn't been able to settle - quite possibly because of his ego and temperament.

However, I can remember how good he was for us and he's a good shout for a loan deal in my book.

As I said previously, if he doesn't perform or upsets the team he can be sent back.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Vikettes - by: donnybez</title>
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            <description>Rovers have classed themselves as a family club and that could be why the axe fell on them but surely we could have the vikettes back! We have fuck all in pre match and half time entertainment! And they could have just got the Vikettes or a rotating cast of cheerleaders which wouldn't get greedy


Plus i'm sure we could make Rovers the ultimate must do experience for anyone in the area by adding to the atmosphere and promoting our brand of football through a proper marketing campaign</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Billy Sharp - by: Viking Don</title>
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            <description>Wing Commander, we can't all agree, but GR used to get caught upfield all the time also, and not be able to get back in time, but that's just down to the way we use the fullbacks, as wingbacks almost. It's down to the rest of the team to cover for either of them when they're bombing forward, noone expects them to get back from the oppositions corner flag when they make a break.

GF is far from the finished article, but for me he's shown that he'll be a fantastic addition to the side. Not sure who'll be playing left-back when JC is fit, but his left foot gives him a bit of an advantage.

Yes, InSod.... agree about Copps, the bargain of the century IMO.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: 5minstogo</title>
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            <description>The pricing strategy won't be changed this season, it would be unfair to those who have purchased season tickets. (Which for the first time in years I am not)

The prices have been submitted to the Football League and as far as I am aware there are a limited amount of times that you can offer special price reductions.

So thats it for this season, if it causes reduced attendances who knows. No doubt we'll get told we don't deserve a successful team.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108179</link>
            <description>All that would happen is that you would see a vast decline in season ticket holders and an increase on those that pay on the day - the monetary savings are the main reason why most people buy season tickets, if that was taken away, what incentive would people have to part with their money upfront? Even more so for those who may miss games due to work/holidays or less likely to want to come if we go through a rough part.</description>
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            <title>Subject: An interesting read - by: Sheepskin Stu</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108178#108178</link>
            <description>Some reaction to Tony Blair's new book and more particularly the Iraq war.


www.newstatesman.com/blogs/mehdi-hasan/2010/08/saddam-iraq-weapons-report</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108177</link>
            <description>it wouldnt piss me off but get your point thats why it might need tweaking a bit,say make it 22 pound ? i just want the keepmoat full and more revenue for the rovers.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108176</link>
            <description>If we did sign him, I would play him at left back - he is as solid in defence as he is going forwards (he played LWB for Yeovil) and would be a vast improvement on what we have.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: DonnyNoel</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108175</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 After our midfield's performance the other day Vs Dull, whats the point?? Nothing more than a benchwarmer!!! 

Putting aside the &quot;would he make the first 11&quot; debate... So what if he was a bench/squad player? As I've mentioned in other threads - we need a good squad to get promoted. A good first 11 got us to the fringe of the playoffs last season but a couple of runs of bad form and injuries cost us. With better players on the bench than we had last season we can start to address that problem. It would be fantastic if we could field the 11 that strolled by Hull every week and they play like that every week but over 46 games that won't happen.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
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            <description>It would never happen though Filo, because there will always be people who are willing to pay the prices, whatever the cost.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Redandwhitewhizards</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108173</link>
            <description>I thought the club had already targeted people who didn't renew their season tickets and found that price was the main reason?

My view is that you are either a season ticket holder or you aren't - the club cannot go offering discounts to people who used to be season ticket holders on a regular basis as they will alienate the current fan base who have put their money where their mouth is and have bought a season ticket.

I am all for increasing the fan base, but telling someone they can pay on a match by match basis at season ticket holders prices isn't the answer unless you want around 6,000 pissed off people.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108172</link>
            <description>The only way to get the football world to sit up and take note is an organized non attendance day throughout the whole football pyramid, the root cause of high prices are the players wages, they are grossly overpaid to the point that footballers are recession proof!</description>
            <pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 11:25:06 +0100</pubDate>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: DubaiRover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108171</link>
            <description> Big lad up front wrote: 
 DRFC to Doncaster public

We are very disappointed that the ground wasnt full on Saturday

Doncaster public to DRFC

&quot;The match ticket was £28&quot;

What part of that sentence do they not understand??? 




I am back in the uk at the minute and went to watch the rugby at wembley as I have done for a good few years now and as I said to my Dad if I was in Donny I still would not of gone to watch the rovers because of the price, $28 is too much,$15 is fine $20 ok but $28 bollocks I will not pay it.
There is a recession on and football has overpriced itself and is rubbing true supporters noses in it as they carry on milking everything available to them.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108170</link>
            <description>yes but on that system it could have twenty thousand names on it,with probably ten thousand names on it that have only been to two games the league play offs and johnstone's paint.
with my idea it targets once loyal sth holders who have attended regularly so in a way deserve the discount of twenty pound for a game which is about the going rate for a person who is a sth now.
these people are more likely to take up the offer than people who have just been to two games? and it would cost less money to mail a few thousand people than target ten thousand.
can we not ask gartom to bring this subject up again with jr,and lets hear from gartom what explanation the club come up with has regards why we don't use this software?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:New Signing - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108134#108169</link>
            <description>congratulations mike and the same to you nudga. nudga are you trying to retire and live of family benefits?  :-))   :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:an idea to help attendances ? - by: Filo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108168</link>
            <description>The club have the CRM software that can do all that and more, but for some unknown reason it has never been utilised properly!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108167</link>
            <description>Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! 0 Minutes ago     
inSODwetrust wrote:

After our midfield's performance the other day Vs Dull, whats the point?? Nothing more than a benchwarmer!!!


Sorry, but no!

At the top of his game Macca could walk into our team (and probably any team in this league). 

Mr Egotistical left us in 2006, and since then he has played in 4 Championship clubs, surely that tells you something!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:New Signing - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108134#108166</link>
            <description> Nudga wrote: 
 Congratulations to you and your family, hope the little one and your missus are doing well.



May I take this opportunity to announce that Nudga Needham the 4th is due in march. 

Does that make you Nudga Needham III?

 :-D  :-D</description>
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            <title>Subject: an idea to help attendances ? - by: redbrez</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108165#108165</link>
            <description>we must have 1,000 to 3,000? previous season ticket holders after the last three or four seasons hat are not sth now.,could the club not contact these people with a letter and questionnaire why they ain't sth still or do they still attend games?
and they could give them a card which will allow them to buy tickets at say $20 and give them details on how the supporters club have a savings club,and maybe other ideas to make it easier to save or buy there season tickets IE (that danum savings club? ).
would this help increase the attendance?,and help out previous sth who might be struggling financially.
might need tweaking a bit but at least it would Target people that have been sth before,and probably would take up the opportunity if the only reasons are financial?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: 5minstogo</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108164</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 After our midfield's performance the other day Vs Dull, whats the point?? Nothing more than a benchwarmer!!! 

I agree, unless we were sounding them out as a replacement in case one of our midfield maestro's had left yesterday.  :-O   ;)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108163</link>
            <description> inSODwetrust wrote: 
 After our midfield's performance the other day Vs Dull, whats the point?? Nothing more than a benchwarmer!!! 

Sorry, but no!

At the top of his game Macca could walk into our team (and probably any team in this league). It's getting him to the top of his game and keeping him there that seems to be the problem?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108162</link>
            <description>After our midfield's performance the other day Vs Dull, whats the point?? Nothing more than a benchwarmer!!!</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: BLIR</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108161</link>
            <description>Could be a loan deal then?

I'd have him on loan - his talent is fantastic - but would be wary of a signing because his attitude and temperament were questionable.

I honestly thought he would go from strength to strength when he left us but doesn't seem to be able to settle at a club (and he's tried plenty of them).

Loan deal would be ideal, if he could recapture anything like the form he had when he was with us before he would be a huge asset. If he doesn't play well, or upsets the balance, or upsets the dressing room then he can be shipped out again as quickly as he has come?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:New Signing - by: Drover</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108134#108160</link>
            <description>Congratulations Mike,well done,Max is a lucky lad,he will be watching Rovers in the Premiership when he grows up   ;)  :)</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Billy Sharp - by: inSODwetrust</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107626#108159</link>
            <description>I beg to differ, I think the first 2 seasons Lewis Guy had with us, he played very well and partnered Paul Heffernan more than suitably, also I think around that time we were looking for a replacement for Gregg Blundell and I personally think he fit into that role very well. 
 The problem with LG was that he wasn't a good enough player to step up from league 1 to the Championship (same as Adam Lockwood, and various other players we have released recently), so the fans got on his back and he was low in confidence, it remains to be seen what he manages to do at MK Dons, baring in mind he was their hero last week Vs Blackpool. 
 As for Billy he is definately the complete signing, but for James Coppinger, he has got to be the bargain of the decade, £25.000 from Exeter and if we were to sell him now we would get near on a million, as he is a game changer as we saw Vs Bristol City and gives 100% eveyweek. 

  :scarf:</description>
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            <title>Subject: Rovers made Mcindoe enquiry! - by: ljm-drfc</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108158#108158</link>
            <description>http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2010/09/01/doncaster-rovers-made-late-inquiry-for-michael-mcindoe-92746-27178213/</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: CusworthRovers</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108157</link>
            <description>Not even bothered to look at prices, but do we have a knock on effect from the big 4 plus your Spurs and City's.

If they have top notch prices and people WILL still watch, it will have a knock on effect to the other Prem teams to increase their prices to compete, and the the CCC and then L1, L2, Conference.

It all stems from the need to compete with the chosen few.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendences - by: Dimples-D</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108156</link>
            <description>The problem is that ticket prices are set by people for who £28 is loose change.
£28 for me is a lot of money.  
Millionaire directors wonder why people don't turn up when it is 'only' £28. Would they turn up if they had to pay £1000 a ticket for a league game against Hull City?

Percentage wise for me £28 is about the same as a millionaire paying £1000.

I remember going to see Rangers play Juventus in the Champs League in 1996. The ticket was £27. I thought what a rip off but it was a one off and would never have to pay that much again... How times change.


Football is slowly pricing people out of it.. Some of my mates who are season ticket holders have said they will pay whatever it is, no matter how much it is... I wonder if that will be the case in 20 years time. If prices rise at the same rate as they have for the past 20 years it will be about £800 a game by then.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:lower ticket prices will not increase attendenc - by: Snods Shinpad 2</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108085#108155</link>
            <description>I'd like to know what some people are smoking at the club.

Someone thinks making the Sheffield United game a Category A game is a good idea.    

A few problems with this.

1. It's free to watch live on the telly! 
2. Late kick off.
3. Notoriously fickle away support.
4. 13k last season at Cat B prices with no telly and Rovers pushing for play off place.
5. It's free to watch live on the telly! 

Oh dear, oh dear.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:New Signing - by: kittyslass</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=1000006&amp;id=108134#108154</link>
            <description> Mike_F wrote: 
 I'm delighted to say that there will be another Rovers fan in the family. My son, Max was born in the DRI at 9:45pm. It's the best feeling in the world!  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :) 


Congratulations to you and Mrs Mike_F on the safe arrival of little Max.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:When does the loan transfer-window shut? - by: Irish Branch</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=108150#108153</link>
            <description>In one week the transfer of &quot;Loans&quot; starts again. So from next Wednesday.</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:Billy Sharp - by: Rios</title>
            <link>http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&amp;Itemid=57&amp;func=view&amp;catid=999999&amp;id=107626#108152</link>
            <description> tommy toes wrote: 
  Al4475 wrote: 
 Martis = This season's Lewis Guy! Scapegoat - :) 

Lewis Guy wasn't a scapegoaat. He was a player JR, DP and SOD wasted five years of time, effort and money on. A complete bottler and the most continually disappointing player I can remember in all my years watching the MIGHTY Rovers. 

Spot on.  Lewis Guy wasn't a scapegoat, Mark Wilson who sometimes does have good games and always gives (a sometimes limited) 100% could lay claim to that title.

Nobody likes a cheat.  Nobody likes a bottler.  Nobody likes to think that someone is taking advantage of their good nature or kindness.  Lewis had five years of decent facilities, top notch training and a decent wedge to take home.  Rovers fans on the other hand paid £20+ a ticket to watch him fall over like a fish, bottle every challenge on him and to bump into him on a weekday night pissed out of his head telling you how he was too good for our club.

However, there's karma here.  Lewis Guy who stole his wages for five years now plays for MK Dongs who stole someone elses club!  Could there be a better fit?</description>
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            <title>Subject: Re:The biggest transfer budget in the club's history! - by: no yam yam</title>
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            <description> Alan Southstand wrote: 
 Chicken or egg, when it comes to attendances!

We have, in real terms, effectively weakened the squad so far this season. 

No we have a stronger squad at the start of this season. Sharp, Shackell, Ward, Jet and probably others were all brought in on loan, and I fully expect a similar thi