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Rovin Reporter

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Do we need more or less
« on September 29, 2010, 08:52:31 pm by Rovin Reporter »
Going by the last few games we have played teams off the pitch,received  compliments from managers and supporters alike, but we ended up not coming home with the points, We are to my reckoning , not as strong as we were last year, Billy is working himself into the ground for the team, and goals are being spread around, but where is the danger when we keep dictating the pace up front for long periods of the game and yet we still can not convert our efforts into goals.

It is a long season , yet we have shipped more goals this time around , we are weaker at the back for sure , but if we converted half  of what what we create, it would be a different picture. SO'D has tried to eliminate the problems at the back with a positive approach up front , but we are weaker there also, JET ,MUTCH Shackel Ward all added to the tally he nust be getting to the end of his creative wits.
 
We are all grateful to the board for there financial prowess, but unless they stop taking 1 step forward ( Billy Sharp) and followed by 2 steps backwards ( Not Signing Shackle or Ward) it is just does not make any sense to leave the manager without stronger budget,  ,even if it meant No Billy Sharp. £1.15m has just not paid dividends when are leaking goals. at the back and WHEN your major investment is NOT getting the service he got last season. So we DO need more up front or go back to a stronger diffence , but one or both PLEASE .



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DonnyBazR0ver

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #1 on September 29, 2010, 09:07:50 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
The only thing we need right now that doesn't cost money is belief and a streak of ruthlesness !

Most teams can't buy what we already have !!

Rovin Reporter

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #2 on September 29, 2010, 10:34:36 pm by Rovin Reporter »
We have had more or less the same team for 3 years or more , so WHEN do we get this ruthlesness? Most teams may not have what we have , but there comes a time when we show  what we have got counts for results not just compliments and praise and fine looking football. We may be doing things our way, but you don't see many teams following our lead . This a results game and SO'D knows that. All i say is give the man the chance to get them and stop pretending we have the answer without spending .

Wellred

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #3 on September 29, 2010, 11:43:36 pm by Wellred »
Rovin Reporter wrote:
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Going by the last few games we have played teams off the pitch,received  compliments from managers and supporters alike, but we ended up not coming home with the points, We are to my reckoning , not as strong as we were last year, Billy is working himself into the ground for the team, and goals are being spread around, but where is the danger when we keep dictating the pace up front for long periods of the game and yet we still can not convert our efforts into goals.

It is a long season , yet we have shipped more goals this time around , we are weaker at the back for sure , but if we converted half  of what what we create, it would be a different picture. SO'D has tried to eliminate the problems at the back with a positive approach up front , but we are weaker there also, JET ,MUTCH Shackel Ward all added to the tally he nust be getting to the end of his creative wits.
 
We are all grateful to the board for there financial prowess, but unless they stop taking 1 step forward ( Billy Sharp) and followed by 2 steps backwards ( Not Signing Shackle or Ward) it is just does not make any sense to leave the manager without stronger budget,  ,even if it meant No Billy Sharp. £1.15m has just not paid dividends when are leaking goals. at the back and WHEN your major investment is NOT getting the service he got last season. So we DO need more up front or go back to a stronger diffence , but one or both PLEASE .


Can you explain how SOD has taken a more positive approach up front?
Playing one man on his own looking for scraps hardly seems a positive approach to me?
Perhaps you can explain what is this positive approach he has taken?

DonnyNoel

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #4 on September 30, 2010, 08:14:27 am by DonnyNoel »
Wellred wrote:
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Rovin Reporter wrote:
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Going by the last few games we have played teams off the pitch,received  compliments from managers and supporters alike, but we ended up not coming home with the points, We are to my reckoning , not as strong as we were last year, Billy is working himself into the ground for the team, and goals are being spread around, but where is the danger when we keep dictating the pace up front for long periods of the game and yet we still can not convert our efforts into goals.

It is a long season , yet we have shipped more goals this time around , we are weaker at the back for sure , but if we converted half  of what what we create, it would be a different picture. SO'D has tried to eliminate the problems at the back with a positive approach up front , but we are weaker there also, JET ,MUTCH Shackel Ward all added to the tally he nust be getting to the end of his creative wits.
 
We are all grateful to the board for there financial prowess, but unless they stop taking 1 step forward ( Billy Sharp) and followed by 2 steps backwards ( Not Signing Shackle or Ward) it is just does not make any sense to leave the manager without stronger budget,  ,even if it meant No Billy Sharp. £1.15m has just not paid dividends when are leaking goals. at the back and WHEN your major investment is NOT getting the service he got last season. So we DO need more up front or go back to a stronger diffence , but one or both PLEASE .


Can you explain how SOD has taken a more positive approach up front?
Playing one man on his own looking for scraps hardly seems a positive approach to me?
Perhaps you can explain what is this positive approach he has taken?


But yet under O'Driscoll we have seen some of the most turgid, boring, defensive football known to man with 3 up front (start of the 08/09 CCC season). I'd say its more the mentality thats changed as well as the usual inclusion of 2 from 3 of Hayter/Copps/Shiels whereas we've gone long spells where only one of them would support the lone striker (or two would play if Hayter was the striker). I still agree with the point that someone needs to be Billy - be it Copps, Hayter or a JET-like signing.

Rovin Reporter

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #5 on September 30, 2010, 08:22:24 am by Rovin Reporter »
The stats of the games show we are taking the games to them with more shots, and not bogging this down in the midfield. we have often got more possession but little to show what we did with it ,we ARE having ,more attempts on goal , we have never played with a recognised centre forward , we play off the sides and work into positions where can create openings for everyone to take their chances , and player are doing precisely that. My views are we do not have enough options this season, and SO'D S has made every effort to get the players to compinsate for the weakness at the back by keeping the pressure on up front and getting the players to finish to their moves instead of just loosing the ball and tracking back to regain possession and start all over again.

irishcontingent

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Re:Do we need more or less
« Reply #6 on September 30, 2010, 08:34:57 am by irishcontingent »
Rovin Reporter wrote:
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We are all grateful to the board for there financial prowess, but unless they stop taking 1 step forward ( Billy Sharp) and followed by 2 steps backwards ( Not Signing Shackle or Ward) it is just does not make any sense to leave the manager without stronger budget,  ,even if it meant No Billy Sharp. £1.15m has just not paid dividends when are leaking goals. at the back and WHEN your major investment is NOT getting the service he got last season. So we DO need more up front or go back to a stronger diffence , but one or both PLEASE .


The figure is the whole deal, not what has been paid so far, about half \"Up Front\" has been paid.

 

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