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DonnyOsmond

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Bring back the diamond
« on February 18, 2017, 05:22:10 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Not sure why we've changed system long term anyway seeing as it's the one that got us up and running in the first half of the season. This 3 at the back is stifling us and it needs changing.

Get Alfie starting aswell.



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Monkcaster_Rover

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #1 on February 18, 2017, 05:25:03 pm by Monkcaster_Rover »
Could just be down to Baudry being injured and he see's playing Butler & Wright together at the back a bit one dimensional.

Agreed about Alfie. Loved his celebration.

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #2 on February 18, 2017, 05:27:29 pm by Filo »
Could just be down to Baudry being injured and he see's playing Butler & Wright together at the back a bit one dimensional.

Agreed about Alfie. Loved his celebration.

Wright did n't play

Monkcaster_Rover

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #3 on February 18, 2017, 05:30:07 pm by Monkcaster_Rover »
Could just be down to Baudry being injured and he see's playing Butler & Wright together at the back a bit one dimensional.

Agreed about Alfie. Loved his celebration.

Wright did n't play

That's my point. When he doesn't have Baudry at the back he'd rather play 3 and Butler just as his main centre half.

Akinfenwa

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #4 on February 18, 2017, 06:21:35 pm by Akinfenwa »
In the last two games we've basically had only two actual defenders on the pitch at any point. Butler / Wright and Alcock.

Is it any wonder that we've conceded three sloppy goals from wide positions in that time? The balance doesn't seem right to me.

Bessie Red

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #5 on February 18, 2017, 06:28:01 pm by Bessie Red »
In the last two games we've basically had only two actual defenders on the pitch at any point. Butler / Wright and Alcock.

Is it any wonder that we've conceded three sloppy goals from wide positions in that time? The balance doesn't seem right to me.

I wouldn't say their goal was sloppy today, it was a brilliant finish.

roversdude

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #6 on February 18, 2017, 06:36:12 pm by roversdude »
Is Baudry still injured or ill ???

Akinfenwa

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #7 on February 18, 2017, 06:52:48 pm by Akinfenwa »
In the last two games we've basically had only two actual defenders on the pitch at any point. Butler / Wright and Alcock.

Is it any wonder that we've conceded three sloppy goals from wide positions in that time? The balance doesn't seem right to me.

I wouldn't say their goal was sloppy today, it was a brilliant finish.

I'm not doubting that it was a good finish but;

1) Two of our guys were out fought by one of theirs for the initial breakaway. Should have done better.
2) Our defence was all over the place once Mason had committed himself. The bloke who scored then had loads of space to get into the box with relative ease and get a (very good) shot away.

GazLaz

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #8 on February 18, 2017, 06:57:50 pm by GazLaz »
I said that earlier. We have regressed since 3 at the back became first choice rather than plan be. We have been at our best playing a back 4. That's a fact.

Chris Black come back

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #9 on February 18, 2017, 07:12:23 pm by Chris Black come back »
Never seen three at back add owt. Yet we keep seeing it rear its head. Mystery.

Alickismyhero

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #10 on February 18, 2017, 07:29:28 pm by Alickismyhero »
I said that earlier. We have regressed since 3 at the back became first choice rather than plan be. We have been at our best playing a back 4. That's a fact.

You make a good point there Gaz. DF seems very pigheaded with playing 3 at the back. I think we can play 3 at the back when we have Butler and Frenchie there but when either one is missing we are very vunerable.

May's time has come and what a performance to keep our home record going.

les@donr

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #11 on February 18, 2017, 07:33:46 pm by les@donr »
Where is Beestin these days?

dickos1

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #12 on February 18, 2017, 07:49:15 pm by dickos1 »
We played three at the back throughout our great run in January.

Alickismyhero

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #13 on February 18, 2017, 08:00:07 pm by Alickismyhero »
We played three at the back throughout our great run in January.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Butler and Frenchie both playing in January? If that is the case it would support the point I made.

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #14 on February 18, 2017, 08:23:43 pm by Chris Black come back »
I think three at back is just one element of debate about what added value Ferguson bring to Rovers, in terms of nouse, tactics, motivation etc.

We have a squad of players generously provided by our owners, that are way way beyond dreams of almost all clubs in this league. Yet we haven't beaten any team in top four and have only beaten two teams in the top seven.

We look like flat track bullies, beating easy meat and relying on our talented players in this league. Results show that we are poor against the better teams in this league. That doesn't matter so much so long as we are ahead of other teams, but it does suggest we are going to struggle next season if we go up against decently resourced teams of a higher standard than most in this league.

drfchound

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #15 on February 18, 2017, 08:32:55 pm by drfchound »
Using the same benchmarks you could argue that the other teams in the top seven aren't good enough to beat the "easy meat" because they obviously haven't done it often enough to get more points than us.

Campsall rover

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #16 on February 18, 2017, 08:58:43 pm by Campsall rover »
We played three at the back throughout our great run in January.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Butler and Frenchie both playing in January? If that is the case it would support the point I made.
No we played a back 4  Blair  Baudry  Butler  Mason

drfchound

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #17 on February 18, 2017, 09:06:20 pm by drfchound »
That is correct.

dickos1

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #18 on February 18, 2017, 10:56:19 pm by dickos1 »
Yeovil away we won 3-0 with 3 at the back, mason also played as the 3rd centre back in march with Rowe and Blair as wing backs

Campsall rover

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #19 on February 18, 2017, 11:16:08 pm by Campsall rover »
Yeovil away we won 3-0 with 3 at the back, mason also played as the 3rd centre back in march with Rowe and Blair as wing backs
March ???

dickos1

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #20 on February 18, 2017, 11:47:08 pm by dickos1 »
Ha no idea mate,

Lifelong supporter

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #21 on February 19, 2017, 02:39:32 am by Lifelong supporter »
This post might be more valid if we played three at the back against Luton.
We didn't...

Campsall rover

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #22 on February 19, 2017, 04:19:35 pm by Campsall rover »
This post might be more valid if we played three at the back against Luton.
We didn't...
Sorry what were we paying then???
Alcock, Butler & Mason centre backs with Blair & Rowe as wing backs.

Lifelong supporter

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #23 on February 19, 2017, 07:33:00 pm by Lifelong supporter »
Blair was right back with Copps, Houghton, Grant and Rowe in the diamond.
When he subbed Mason he played Rowe at left back with Blair right back and Alcock and Butler centre backs.

drfchound

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #24 on February 19, 2017, 08:03:40 pm by drfchound »
That I so wrong.
Back three of Alcock,Butler and Mason.
Blair and Rowe as wing backs.
When Mason went off we effectively had a back two with Blair and Rowe helping out if required.
After Mason went off our extra players going forward forced Luton to pull men back to counter that and they hardly got forward at all late on.
DF himself said it was a big risk but it paid off.

RedJ

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #25 on February 19, 2017, 08:42:18 pm by RedJ »
Blair is massively wasted as a defender. Once personnel come back he has to be used on the wing.

drfchound

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #26 on February 19, 2017, 08:45:35 pm by drfchound »
After the first twenty minutes or so against Luton I thought he would be nailed on as man of the match.
He skinned the left back a few times but then they doubled up on him.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #27 on February 19, 2017, 08:52:30 pm by DonnyOsmond »
We've played 3-5-2 since the Barnet game.

drfchound

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #28 on February 19, 2017, 08:55:00 pm by drfchound »
No, that is not correct.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Bring back the diamond
« Reply #29 on February 19, 2017, 08:57:53 pm by DonnyOsmond »

 

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