Rooney

[Herman Hessian]

I can tell you that despair and depression run side by side and one of the tell tale signs are that people will go out and spend on their own, the fact that he was alone rings true.  In times of my depression in the past present and no doubt future I will spend what bit I have on absolutely anything absolutely anything it is just the way it is and those poor souls who commit suicide over money matters? well spend it or end it. I got the tee shirt. Do not mock it. It is not a good feeling. IN his case, his ability and fame have caused his problems.

fair comment - up to the point where you assume that him spending money in this way is a problem - that may not be the case; if i went to a casino and lost what i consider to be an amount of entirely "spare" cash, whether that's a tenner, fifty quid, or half a million - that's not a necessarily a problem, whether i choose to do so by myself or as part of a crowd...

[GazLaz]

I'm a massive boxing fan and Rooney's issue over the last few seasons (one of them anyway) is that they've taken too much weight off him and he's "dead at the weight" as they say in boxing. Drained him completely.

[ballysbackin]

I can tell you that despair and depression run side by side and one of the tell tale signs are that people will go out and spend on their own, the fact that he was alone rings true.  In times of my depression in the past present and no doubt future I will spend what bit I have on absolutely anything absolutely anything it is just the way it is and those poor souls who commit suicide over money matters? well spend it or end it. I got the tee shirt. Do not mock it. It is not a good feeling. IN his case, his ability and fame have caused his problems.

fair comment - up to the point where you assume that him spending money in this way is a problem - that may not be the case; if i went to a casino and lost what i consider to be an amount of entirely "spare" cash, whether that's a tenner, fifty quid, or half a million - that's not a necessarily a problem, whether i choose to do so by myself or as part of a crowd...

Your point is also accepted

[Herman Hessian]

I'm a massive boxing fan and Rooney's issue over the last few seasons (one of them anyway) is that they've taken too much weight off him and he's "dead at the weight" as they say in boxing. Drained him completely.

spot on - should have left him to his kebab and burger diet

united fans would have had to change their song from "...he'd seen the white pele" to "...he'd seen the white akinfenwe" though

[Draytonian III]

Agreed,he looks drained,both physically and mentally. They seemed to have taken his natural spark by playing in a regimented manner

[not on facebook]

When Ryan giggs lost himself legs he called it a day straight away

Same can be said for likes of gray neville and Paul scholes.

John terry is stepping down at Chelsea in his words ' he did not want to keep any younger Chelsea players held back due to him having a squad place'

Ronney had been shit fo last 4 seasons and got worse and worse with each season.he should have fcuked off away from OT 3 seasons back ,but his £300,000 a week wage slip says different .

Yes he was the dogs b*llocks at football ,but today my aunt has more b*llocks on the football pitch than Rooney.

[acko]

those having a go at rooney should also remember the amount of money he as raised and donated to charity,saying he would like to stay at Man Unt is no crime hes contracted till 2018.he also knows his playing career is now coming to an end.It would be easy for him to accept offers from USA or China like other players whose careers were going down hill like Gerrard,Lampard,Tevez even the great Pirlo.Dont judge a man that would like to finish his career at a club that he gave so much for,there is an obvious touch of jelousy regarding the money he and other spotsman earn the likes of Murray,Mcilroy and others,but they worked hard at achieving their ambitions.When i do the lottery its about a dream about enjoying the lifestyle of the rich and famous and i suggest you are all the same.

[not on facebook]

I don't mind what amount of money he is getting paid when he was performing out on the pitch FairPlay to him or whoever.

But as soon as he started to ask to be moved into midfield when he knew his days up front was over that's when he started going downhill on the pitch.

Like I said it's believed that he was one of the United players who was leaking info to a certian newspaper which in turn was helping bring his manager down.

He might raise shit loads for charity but that's upto him.

Do you think that he would cut his wage demands in half so another English club might take a punt on him > I doubt it .

[acko]

I take what you say facebook,but would you take a pay cut if youve still got a year left on your contract debatable.Certain Rovers players have been placed on transfer list if the truth is known non will demand a fee but they are still on contract and they wont leave if offered less money elsewhere why should they,the Rovers would just like them off the wage bill to enable new signings to take their place

[RoversAlias]

I don't even think he has "lost his legs", I think he has grown disillusioned with his marginalisation at Man Utd and needs a fresh scenery. If he goes to America or China, or back to Everton, I think we'd see a renewed purpose in Rooney at least for a short while.

[acko]

tend to agree with you alias,maybe needs a fresh challenge but for his own football stalling career it must be in this country then its down to what clubs are prepared to pay him,although Man Unt have said because of his United career they wont ask for a fee.As a cotracted player they could do.

[not on facebook]

He plays shit for England aswell from what I see.

Think you are both correct about him taken on a new challenge ,but he will have to take a pay cut for a normall club to be able to take him on.

But if the leaking of things  to the press is true ,he should be hung drawn and quartered when everything is taken into account.

[balbyrover]

Regardless of what people say, Rooney has achieved a awful lot more than most footballers have and will.
Hes won pretty much every trophy going apart from international tournaments, englands all time top goalscorer.

Fair enough,England have failed to progress as expected in tournaments but you can't pin that on Wayne Rooney alone.

He is a legend,both for club and country. He earnt that tag when he broke goalscoring records for Man Utd and England.

[GazLaz]

If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.

[not on facebook]

I respect likes of Gary Neville, Paul scholes, Steven Gerrard ,glen hoodle ,Alan shearer ,Allen Hansen,Kenny daglish  and many more

but no matter how hard I try I just can't put Rooney up in same bracket ,I would like to be proved wrong but every nerve in my body says different .

[GazLaz]

I respect likes of Gary Neville, Paul scholes, Steven Gerrard ,glen hoodle ,Alan shearer ,Allen Hansen,Kenny daglish  and many more

but no matter how hard I try I just can't put Rooney up in same bracket ,I would like to be proved wrong but every nerve in my body says different .

England and Man U's record scorer. A lot of players have had had a go at both records.

[idler]

I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.

[drfchound]

So absolute rubbish being spouted on here as usual. Comparing Ronald and Rooney's bodies is the most laughable. They clearly have very different genetics and body shapes. I would hazard a guess that Rooney could spend every hour in the gym and still never look like Ronaldo! Look at tony bellew for example and compare him to the physique of David haye. It's completely different.

Surprised at the hostility towards him by England fans really. He's had a great career, won every domestic and European trophy possible, become England's all time leading goal scorer, Utd's top goal scorer and played at the top from being 16 years of age. Yes, he's possibly not reached the heights we thought he would after Euro 2004 (he was unplayable in that tournament). Had he stayed fit then and not got injured in the quarter final I'm convinced England would have won that tournament

Well said.
God help him if he was a Rovers player.
I dread to think how much stick he would have got from some of our supporters.

[GazLaz]

I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.

What, a council estate lad?

[Sammy Chung was King]

It's his money he earned it. As a player he has had a fine career but i can't help thinking with a different mindset he could have done even better.
Comparing him to Ronaldo is like comparing a greyhound with a bulldog both fine animals but born different shapes.
 He is paying for his lack of games how can you expect him to look good against players who are mentally and physically finely tuned through playing every week?.

 It's a very tough standard especially just to be thrown back in after months not getting a game. He has lost some pace but the main thing he has lost is his confidence. The start of his downturn was way back when he lost Ferguson as his manager he kept him on his toes. Then when they decided he was a midfielder that seemed to totally destroy his forward thinking natural instincts.
He is at his best when he is the number one. When united totally relied on him for a season for goals he produced more goals than he had managed before or since. Now he has been shown that almost everybody has given up on him as a top player. His lack of dedication is catching up with him but also lack of sharpness and confidence.

Ibrahimovic is a very good player but Rooney has always been the better of the two at his best. He can take a player on better and can pass a ball better his instinctive play is better, his touch but the big lad is the better finisher and physically stronger but Rooney's all round game is much better. The problem is Ibrahimovic like Ronaldo is fanatical about being the best he can be Rooney got sidetracked a long time ago from that. Ferguson told him years ago that he had to work harder than the other lads because of his tendency to put weight on if he didn't.
At the minute to me he looks fine weight wise it looks as though he has worked really hard to get into shape but can't get going again due to not playing enough.
He's thirty one years old it's too late to start converting him into something he isn't. Even losing a bit of pace he is still quick enough to beat a defender he just needs faith shown in him and he will score goals again-he isn't finished yet if united let him go they are mad.

[phil old leake]

Rooney is everything that is wrong with the England set up.  Picked on reputation and bottleless managers who dared not to lick him.   115 caps he's not fit to wear the same boots as the likes of charlton who deserved all his caps.    Never performed in a major tournament. In his day absolutely quality.  If he had been Italian or Spanish he would have been dropped when he lost form.  Look at ronaldhino (maybe not spelt right)) he was brilliant in his day won 98 caps I think.  No sympathy vote from Brazilians to give him 100 he was dropped when not good enough. 
I don't know who will want him in the prem 
Maybe DF can offer him a pay as you play contract to warm our bench

[casperjebba]

If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.

Except the Italians have actually achieved something in the last 50 years.

[acko]

I worry about England with or without Rooney are strikers are very thin on the ground,Sturridge doesnt get game time and his manager thinks his work rate is poor,Defoe good goalscorer but age against him,Rashford still learning but in truth its only his pace that sets him aside from others,Kane is probably the best England have,add walcott to the list and thats another that cant get into his team.Where do England go from here anybody got any idear.

[Donnywolf]

Rooney is everything that is wrong with the England set up.  Picked on reputation and bottleless managers who dared not to lick him.   115 caps he's not fit to wear the same boots as the likes of charlton who deserved all his caps.    Never performed in a major tournament. In his day absolutely quality.  If he had been Italian or Spanish he would have been dropped when he lost form.  Look at ronaldhino (maybe not spelt right)) he was brilliant in his day won 98 caps I think.  No sympathy vote from Brazilians to give him 100 he was dropped when not good enough. 
I don't know who will want him in the prem 
Maybe DF can offer him a pay as you play contract to warm our bench

Tremendous post - straight to the point and accurate all round

Only last bit could be improved. Instead of DF looking to make him an offer it should be DT (Doncaster Town Cricket Club) that should make him an offer

Then he could be the only Player who could open the Batting and Roll the wicket at the same time !

[RoversAlias]

If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.

Except the Italians have actually achieved something in the last 50 years.

Rooney has won loads of trophies in his career, broke impressive records for club and country too. It isn't the sole responsibility of Rooney to win us the World Cup, what about the various managers and other players in the "golden generation"? The media hasn't exactly helped the cause either.

[idler]

I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.

What, a council estate lad?

No a mardy, petulant mouthy prat who has got away with murder re officials over the years.
I came from St. Catherine's Ave. Balby Gaz so no pretensions there.

[Herman Hessian]

No a mardy, petulant mouthy prat

to be entirely fair, as a scouser, he could be whispering sweet nothings in your ear, or reciting the most romantic poems of 19th century literature whilst swaddled in kitten fur, suffused in golden sunlight and under a shower of rose petals - and it'd still sound like he was offering you outside for a fight and was about to arse rape your children and burn your house down...

[idler]

You don't need to be a lip reading expert to see what he has been saying to officials for years and getting away with it. Then there are the bad, nasty tackles. The kick on the guy in the international that our spineless FA got reduced by a game. The time he veered about six feet to accidentally collide with that Wigan player.
If he had played for the Wimbledon of old or even Stoke he would have had far more red cards.
Brian Clough of old would have sorted him out and made him an even better player in my opinion.

[Donnywolf]

Did he once get sent off after 8 seconds ? For a second bookable offence !

[roversdude]

Didn't we have a sub away at Bradford who didn't last long ???