Law changes and trials for 2017/18

[silent majority]

The following website explains some of the rational for doing so. It also includes discussion points that show the areas they are looking at.

www.play-fair.com

[Glyn_Wigley]

I thought they were what is going to be happening, but it just looks like a series of proposals to me without anything saying whether they're going to be considered by anybody at all or not?

[Wiltshire Exile]

The following website explains some of the rational for doing so. It also includes discussion points that show the areas they are looking at.

www.play-fair.com

Fair Play by players, managers, coaches etc.?    Well there's a laugh for a start!

[Buzzberry]

Stricter on goalkeepers only having the ball in their hands for 6 seconds? It'll never happen .

[silent majority]

I thought they were what is going to be happening, but it just looks like a series of proposals to me without anything saying whether they're going to be considered by anybody at all or not?

There are some law changes but some of it is also trials and discussion points. I have a pdf document that goes into some detail but I can't get that up on here!

[ravenrover]

Stricter on goalkeepers only having the ball in their hands for 6 seconds? It'll never happen .

It will and you just know which team will be the 1st to suffer

[drfchound]

Whenever a rule like that is changed, usually for the first few weeks the refs will penalise keepers for taking too long and then it just drifts back to what has been the norm before.

[RedJ]

Yep, like the shirt holding thing.

[drfchound]

Exactly, that lasted about ..........how long?

[Al4475]

Personally I'd like to see the clock counting down and stopping every time there's a substitute, over-zealous celebrations and all those other needley little things that constitute obvious times wasting but it'll never happen I don't think!

[Bentley Bullet]

I never understood why the rule allowing a goal-kick to be taken from either side was introduced. If it was to save time it has surely been proved to be counter-productive?

[idler]

Like a lot more of the rules in football. They worked fine when everybody played in a sporting manner.
Once professionalism and gamesmanship took over then rules were bent more and more.
Players,managers and coaches will nearly always stretch rules to the limit to gain an advantage.

[drfchound]

The BBC sport website have an article on their football page about proposed rule changes.
Apologies if they are the same as in the link in the OP, it won't open for me.
The proposals include abolishing 45 minutes halves and instead "having 30 minute halves instead with the ref stopping the clock for various things, such as substitutions,free kicks and goal celebrations.
It also suggests that scoring from a rebound after a penalty save would be abolished.
Instead, if a penalty was saved the game would restart with a goal kick.
Other interesting proposals include a penalty being awarded if a keeper handles a backpass or a ball thrown to him by a team mate.
Also allowing a ref to award a goal if a ball is handled to prevent is crossing the goal line for a goal.
It is worth a read.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Yes, I read the above. I think we'd all feel a bit short changed and the game clock should apply to the 45 not 30!

[acko]

 I would agree with a goal given in the case of handball on the line.Remember the Suarez incident in a world cup match,The idea of 30mins each half is ludicrious.Clock stopping maybe and thats up to a ref to inform official time keepers and same as rugby they should be the ones to end the game.Football as survived for over hundred years without too many obvious changes it does not need a radical overall just common sense and more refs controling the game not the players.

[CottyRover]

 

[Donnywolf]

I thought they were what is going to be happening, but it just looks like a series of proposals to me without anything saying whether they're going to be considered by anybody at all or not?

There are some law changes but some of it is also trials and discussion points. I have a pdf document that goes into some detail but I can't get that up on here!

Cant get it up eh SM - Sounds very similar to my predicament - technophobic disfunction !

[Donnywolf]

Exactly, that lasted about ..........how long?

6 Seconds sounds about reet !

[Donnywolf]

I would agree with a goal given in the case of handball on the line.Remember the Suarez incident in a world cup match,

Anything that stops or even retards cheating is great in my book but handling on the line resulting in a goal being given is a bit bizarre

Some like Suarez are totally clear cut and I can see the merit (as above) but some hand balls may be done by a panicking defender when the ball may have (say) hit the post and if left would not have gone in. That's where my bizarre bit comes in as we would be giving goals that would not have actually been goals but because of the lack of goal line technology in the lower Divisions disallowing goals that have totally crossed the line and should have been allowed

Looks like this could get "messy"

[weststander]

I agree 100% with pausing the clock at stoppages etc but I am not happy at the prospect of a reduction from 45 to 30 minute halves. I am no historian of the game but 45 minute halves were surely intended to give the fans 45 minutes of football in each half. Reducing the half to 30 mins does nothing to replace the time lost by cheats and time wasters in the modern game.

[albie]

Here is the BBC summary;
Football reforms: Scrapping 45-minute half to be debated at Ifab - BBC Sport

It links through to the main document.

[Muttley]

[Susan Abbott]

What a load rubbish , the sheer lack of fact or proof of , that goes on on the forum is beyond fantasy or reason . For the life of me I can't don't understand why I even look at it .

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What a load rubbish , the sheer lack of fact or proof of , that goes on on the forum is beyond fantasy or reason . For the life of me I can't don't understand why I even look at it .

You've lost me....

[drfchound]

Exactly, that lasted about ..........how long?

6 Seconds sounds about reet !

6 seconds of shirt holding?

[Donnywolf]

My 3 (well publicised - sorry) ways of stopping time wasting and keeping the traditional 45 minutes are :

a) As soon as a goal is awarded by the Ref stop the clock

b) As soon as the Ref blows the whistle to signal a substitution stop the clock till it / or they are completed

c) If an opposition player is injured and the Ref plays on and the Oppos kick the ball out so he can be attended to WE should retain possession - having said that is what we will do to the Ref Opposition Manager and Fans via the Programme

Three big frustrating time wasting tactics "gone" at a stroke

[Bristol Red Rover]

My 3 (well publicised - sorry) ways of stopping time wasting and keeping the traditional 45 minutes are :

a) As soon as a goal is awarded by the Ref stop the clock

b) As soon as the Ref blows the whistle to signal a substitution stop the clock till it / or they are completed

c) If an opposition player is injured and the Ref plays on and the Oppos kick the ball out so he can be attended to WE should retain possession - having said that is what we will do to the Ref Opposition Manager and Fans via the Programme

Three big frustrating time wasting tactics "gone" at a stroke

I agree with all these, and shouldn't be difficult for the ref to be able to stop and start the clock, but in the heat of keeping overall control of the game it's something that might be better done by someone else.

A grey area for me is the time wasting over free kicks, goal kicks, corners, throw ins. Towards the end of a game it can become a problem, but any ref who's able to use common sense will be able to add time on as appropriate. Currently, that doesn't happen nearly enough.

[Donnywolf]

They take an age with Goal Kicks but in American Football they have the Clock on the Play - and have to snap the Ball within 30 seconds or lose possession

Everyone can see it counting down and it could be used for GK's at the least. Of course the Goalkeeper (on 3k a week) would still miss the ball rolled to him by the Ball boy to avoid touching it and starting the countdown !

[Glyn_Wigley]

Personally I'd like to see the clock counting down and stopping every time there's a substitute, over-zealous celebrations and all those other needley little things that constitute obvious times wasting but it'll never happen I don't think!

I've always thought the best way to stop stuff like that isn't to try and restore the equilibrium but to make it counterproductive to the team doing it.

ie Deliberate time-wasting? Don't just add on the same amount of time wasted, that's not punishing the team doing it - double the amount of time added on. Let's see how many teams waste time then.

Goal celebrations going on too long? Let the conceding side kick-off ten seconds after the goal has been scored regardless of whether the scoring side's players are on the pitch or not. That'd cure silly celebrations pronto.

[balbyrover]

Stop the clock every time the ball isnt in play.
Clamp down on GKs time wasting.
Introduce lengthy bans for blatant diving.
Keep the games 45 minutes each way.