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nortikorner

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SENDING OFF
« on October 17, 2017, 10:17:40 pm by nortikorner »
Why Was HE sent off did not see a thing



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donnievic

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #1 on October 17, 2017, 10:18:49 pm by donnievic »
Apparently having a kick at mason

Filo

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The red card
« Reply #2 on October 17, 2017, 10:19:10 pm by Filo »
What happened, I was guilty of ball watching at the time

dickos1

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Re: The red card
« Reply #3 on October 17, 2017, 10:19:58 pm by dickos1 »
He kicked out at mason
Was 4th official that told the ref

Katesby

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Re: The red card
« Reply #4 on October 17, 2017, 10:20:18 pm by Katesby »
Guy just kicked out after the ball had gone, unfortunate area of the pitch given it was right in front of our dugout and the 4th official. Silly boy.

turnbull for england

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #5 on October 17, 2017, 10:22:26 pm by turnbull for england »
Took a swing ay him, clear as you like. No contact but rash

roversdude

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Re: The red card
« Reply #6 on October 17, 2017, 10:28:27 pm by roversdude »
Thought ref was going over to send Fergie to stands

Donnywolf

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Re: The red card
« Reply #7 on October 17, 2017, 10:45:25 pm by Donnywolf »
Thought ref was going over to send Fergie to stands

So did I - Thought he had said "summat" to Ref about ball being out but not been given out

Nice to see Ref actually NOT consult everyone in the Ground to try and change his mind. He was still s**t most of the game though and he cant count to 10 that's for sure

dickos1

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Re: The red card
« Reply #8 on October 17, 2017, 10:55:17 pm by dickos1 »
The ref gave them that free kick on edge of area, the offence which wasn't a foul by the way was about 6 foot inside area

Donnywolf

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Re: The red card
« Reply #9 on October 17, 2017, 10:56:19 pm by Donnywolf »
The ref gave them that free kick on edge of area, the offence which wasn't a foul by the way was about 6 foot inside area

He was crap

Canadian Rover

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #10 on October 17, 2017, 11:40:30 pm by Canadian Rover »
Clear kick out. Good reffing.

Colemans Left Hook

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #11 on October 18, 2017, 03:52:41 am by Colemans Left Hook »
Clear kick out. Good reffing.

that's 2 home matches in a row at home an opponent has been sent off hat-trick on saturday  ?

balbyrover

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #12 on October 18, 2017, 07:09:55 am by balbyrover »
Clear kick out. Good reffing.

that's 2 home matches in a row at home an opponent has been sent off hat-trick on saturday  ?

The Southend fella wasnt sent off?

idler

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #13 on October 18, 2017, 07:11:38 am by idler »
Ferdinand was after the whistle for comments to the ref.

balbyrover

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #14 on October 18, 2017, 07:13:13 am by balbyrover »
Ah thats correct. I forgot about that. My bad.

idler

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #15 on October 18, 2017, 07:15:54 am by idler »
No probs, I think the ones after the whistle, in the tunnel etc don't register the same as someone walking off to a chorus of boos during a game.

bobjimwilly

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #16 on October 18, 2017, 10:33:56 am by bobjimwilly »
Kenny Jackett talks about the sending off in his post-match interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIv5H9m4YcQ
Always liked Jackett; a no-nonsense manager but also honest and modest.

Dutch Uncle

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #17 on October 18, 2017, 11:34:14 am by Dutch Uncle »
Kenny Jackett talks about the sending off in his post-match interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIv5H9m4YcQ
Always liked Jackett; a no-nonsense manager but also honest and modest.

Also always liked Jackett. There is a very good book out about the season he got Millwall promoted to the Championship in 2009-10 - the journalist/author was allowed access to all team matters all season.  Players mentioned include JJ Price and John Marquis.

bobbymax

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #18 on October 19, 2017, 05:59:17 pm by bobbymax »
Portsmouth's website reporting that the red card has been overturned because of 'mistaken identity'. That's a strange one if true as even Kenny Jackett admitted the lad gave the ref the option of sending him off. There is even video evidence showing the kick - was Mick Russell on the appeals board?

The Red Baron

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #19 on October 19, 2017, 06:14:27 pm by The Red Baron »
Doesn't say anything about mistaken identity here. Pretty clear they got the right man anyway.

https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/2017/october/donohue-suspension-overturned/

Bessie Red

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #20 on October 19, 2017, 08:00:13 pm by Bessie Red »
Doesn't say anything about mistaken identity here. Pretty clear they got the right man anyway.

https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/2017/october/donohue-suspension-overturned/
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WTF does "wrongful dismissal" mean!! Are they saying the wrong man got sent off or do they mean it was wrong to send him off?
It was violent conduct whether or not he connected so a definite red, as was the Southend incident. Why cant they be consistent?

MachoMadness

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #21 on October 19, 2017, 08:03:32 pm by MachoMadness »
Truly baffling decision. Cannot for the life of me work out what that decision is all about. Trying to play devil's advocate with myself to find some reason for overturning it but I can't think of one!

The Red Baron

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #22 on October 19, 2017, 08:09:40 pm by The Red Baron »
Doesn't say anything about mistaken identity here. Pretty clear they got the right man anyway.

https://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/news/2017/october/donohue-suspension-overturned/
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WTF does "wrongful dismissal" mean!! Are they saying the wrong man got sent off or do they mean it was wrong to send him off?
It was violent conduct whether or not he connected so a definite red, as was the Southend incident. Why cant they be consistent?


All "wrongful dismissal" means is that they don't think he should have been sent off, which is literally incredible.

I have sympathy with the ref and the Fourth Official. If I was in their shoes I'd be bloody fuming.

drfchound

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #23 on October 19, 2017, 09:03:06 pm by drfchound »
Perhaps they decided that he actually missed Mason with his petulant kick at him.
It is still violent conduct though whether or not he connected.

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #24 on October 19, 2017, 09:45:24 pm by RobTheRover »
It was a bit of a half-arsed swing, but a swing nevertheless.  He knew immediately he was in the doodoo as he tried desperately to apologise to everyone within 20 yards as the ref strolled over.

MachoMadness

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #25 on October 19, 2017, 10:59:29 pm by MachoMadness »
The precedent set here is you're allowed to swing for someone as long as you're crap at it and miss.

Hopefully the committee members responsible got a stern telling off behind closed doors and this doesn't start to spread.

silent majority

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #26 on October 19, 2017, 11:08:11 pm by silent majority »
The precedent set here is you're allowed to swing for someone as long as you're crap at it and miss.

Hopefully the committee members responsible got a stern telling off behind closed doors and this doesn't start to spread.

There's a certain procedure to how the appeals are heard, and most of it done remotely and alone. The point I'm making is I doubt they would get any feedback.

Metalmicky

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #27 on October 20, 2017, 07:29:15 am by Metalmicky »
It was a bit of a half-arsed swing, but a swing nevertheless.  He knew immediately he was in the doodoo as he tried desperately to apologise to everyone within 20 yards as the ref strolled over.

I believe the correct term for what he did is an Audley ............ i.e. a swing and a miss.. :boxing:
« Last Edit: October 20, 2017, 07:32:53 am by Metalmicky »

big fat yorkshire pudding

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #28 on October 20, 2017, 07:39:51 am by big fat yorkshire pudding »
It is bizarre, surely by the rules it was a red card?  Ah well, it was right on the day and it doesn't make much difference to us now.

Donnywolf

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Re: SENDING OFF
« Reply #29 on October 20, 2017, 07:48:27 am by Donnywolf »
It is bizarre.

A bloke kicks out intending to kick an opponent and is rightly sent off under "the Rules". Then there is an appeal which cancels the Red Card

In our previous home game a Player DID make full contact kick or two on an opponent in full view of The "Ref" who immediately blew for "an offence". He then spent an eternity debating the offence with lots of people before finally handing a Yellow Card.

It was and still is one of the clearest Red Cards anyone could see - yet that Player does not seem to have had any justifiable sanction(s) either at the time nor since

It is bizarre

 

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