9th Dec

[Copps is Magic]

2015
League One
15th: Doncaster Rovers P20 W6 Pts24


2017
League One
18th: Doncaster Rovers P21 W6 Pts23

[RedJ]

And a relegation in between that. But nah he's taking the club forwards!

inb4 dickos

[dickos1]

I think it's pretty irrelevant where we are on the 9th December to be honest

[Copps is Magic]

When does being a protracted relegation battle become relevant for you?

In any case, its just a comparison Dickos, one that was meant to highlight how we find ourselves in exactly the same position we did 2 years ago.

[dickos1]

Well where were we on the 9th Jan 2016??

[RedJ]

If you want to play that game, where we on the 9th of May 2016?

[jonnydog]

Where are any of us in the grand cosmic scheme of things?

[RedJ]

Greatest town in the universe, obviously.

[les@donr]

Come to Doncaster the most cosmic town in the Universe.

[hoolahoop]

Cosmic man. We are in trouble again the evidence of that is in the opening post.
Strangely I do think this team and squad are under- performing rather than being weak in numbers and of course quality.

We can dig ourselves out of he perennial shite that we always seem to find ourselves in . We just need to focus rather than "bin " players and seek panacea through multiple changes. We should still achieve and maintain mid- table respectability

Peace man ..........

[dickos1]

Point being tables mean very little less than halfway through the season. We've shown that many times over the years.

[Copps is Magic]

You're right dickos. If only we had some broad way of measuring every team's cumulative progress relative to each other?

[dickos1]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.
Under sod we were bottom on Boxing Day and finished midtable

[Bentley Bullet]

If the table only matters at the end of the season, and it's wrong to be pessimistic halfway through a season when your team is bottom half, surely it is equally wrong to be optimistic when your team is top half? And even more wrong to be optimistic when your team is bottom half?

[Copps is Magic]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.
Under sod we were bottom on Boxing Day and finished midtable

You're using one occurrence to indicate a rule. When the rule is opposite.

Do you accept we're in a relegation battle?

[dickos1]

There's two occurrences there

I've said from beginning of the season let's see where we are on Jan 1st.
Apart from the Wigan game I think we've done well over the last 9 or 10 games and we have improved

[essexrover]

[quote Do you accept we're in a relegation battle?
[/quote]
I'm reserving judgement on this question until after the next 4 REALLY crucial games. Oldham,Bristol Rovers,Northampton & Rochdale. Teams all currently just above or just below Rovers. All winnable, but also all losable in the 90+ mins ! Do well in those & I'll be more optimistic.

[dickos1]

Good point
I think we need a minimum of 8 points from these 4 games

[RedJ]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.

No we weren't. I don't think we were ever higher than 12th.

[RoversAlias]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.

No we weren't. I don't think we were ever higher than 12th.

I've just checked and we went up to 11th with a 3-0 win at Southend on January 2nd. I might be wrong but I think that was our last win before the horrendous run that saw us relegated so I can only assume that was our highest placing of the season.

[Chris Black come back]

Good point
I think we need a minimum of 8 points from these 4 games

Think last time I saw a prediction like that being made, it was followed by “if not, then Ferguson must go.”

[RedJ]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.

No we weren't. I don't think we were ever higher than 12th.

I've just checked and we went up to 11th with a 3-0 win at Southend on January 2nd. I might be wrong but I think that was our last win before the horrendous run that saw us relegated so I can only assume that was our highest placing of the season.

After that, we were never above 12th (admittedly I only checked after 9th January as that was the date he stated).

So we were hardly "top ten yet still relegated". But even if we were, what does it say about the manager if he's able to get into that position then let things fall apart the way they did... I don't understand how saying that he got us there in the first place is any kind of defence for what happened.

[dickos1]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.

No we weren't. I don't think we were ever higher than 12th.

I've just checked and we went up to 11th with a 3-0 win at Southend on January 2nd. I might be wrong but I think that was our last win before the horrendous run that saw us relegated so I can only assume that was our highest placing of the season.

After that, we were never above 12th (admittedly I only checked after 9th January as that was the date he stated).

So we were hardly "top ten yet still relegated". But even if we were, what does it say about the manager if he's able to get into that position then let things fall apart the way they did... I don't understand how saying that he got us there in the first place is any kind of defence for what happened.

Oh sorry,
We were 11th in January then and got relegated 🙄

[dickos1]

Good point
I think we need a minimum of 8 points from these 4 games

Think last time I saw a prediction like that being made, it was followed by “if not, then Ferguson must go.

Nice to see you back chris, I've missed you these last two weekends.
I knew a defeat would bring you back
Must be horrible wanting the team you support to lose just to prove your point about the manager

[RedJ]

But the table only matters at the end of the season, the year your talking about in middle of January we were in the top ten yet still we got relegated.

No we weren't. I don't think we were ever higher than 12th.

I've just checked and we went up to 11th with a 3-0 win at Southend on January 2nd. I might be wrong but I think that was our last win before the horrendous run that saw us relegated so I can only assume that was our highest placing of the season.

After that, we were never above 12th (admittedly I only checked after 9th January as that was the date he stated).

So we were hardly "top ten yet still relegated". But even if we were, what does it say about the manager if he's able to get into that position then let things fall apart the way they did... I don't understand how saying that he got us there in the first place is any kind of defence for what happened.

Oh sorry,
We were 11th in January then and got relegated 🙄

Aye. Not sure how that can be held up as a defence of his skills as a manager, like.

[dickos1]

Never said it did, the discussion was about the league table but you seem to always want to bring it back to him

[RedJ]

Probably because, uh, he was and still is the manager over that timeframe.

[dickos1]

We're uh talking about uh league tables mate, got nothing to do with the uh manager.

[RedJ]

So you can't judge a manager by where the team he's managing is in the league? what a f**king ridiculous statement hahaha.

[dickos1]

Read through this thread only you have mentioned ferguson, you're having your own conversation