Rank em

[Copps is Magic]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

[IDM]

Can't disagree with that, although I would add our caretakers higher than Dickov..

[Copps is Magic]

Yep. Arguably Jones should be on the list, he certainly made a big contribution to the 2nd promotion to the championship. In terms of Mickey Walker, my memory's' failing me on how many games he was in charge and whether he did owt significant?

[IDM]

a decent win at Port Vale wasn't it?

[chrisd_123]

Yep. Arguably Jones should be on the list, he certainly made a big contribution to the 2nd promotion to the championship. In terms of Mickey Walker, my memory's' failing me on how many games he was in charge and whether he did owt significant?

I want to say 2 matches for MW?

One win away at Port Vale on TV and one defeat at home, against Gillingham maybe?

As for that list, I’d agree with most although even though he split opinion, I’d put Saunders higher if only for the team he put together for the title winning season!

[DonnyOsmond]

Flynn above Saunders? We were worse under Flynn with a better team (midfield).

[RedJ]

SO'D
Penney
Saunders
Flynn
Ferguson
Dickov

[BillyStubbsTears]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

How do you rank Flynn above Saunders?

He inherited a side that had title-winning form (in terms of points per game) and turned out a set of results that were mid-play-off form. Barring an outrageous stroke of good luck, he would have lost not only the title but also promotion.

[RoversAlias]

It's all about opinions isn't it. Flynn helped galvanise us for that great away run and certainly for a few late wins at the death that made a big difference. I would if I was making the list perhaps put Flynn and Jones together though as it was a joint effort. Those two also don't have a Rovers relegation on their CV like Saunders does.

But yeah I agree with CiM's ranking.

[Copps is Magic]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

How do you rank Flynn above Saunders?

He inherited a side that had title-winning form (in terms of points per game) and turned out a set of results that were mid-play-off form. Barring an outrageous stroke of good luck, he would have lost not only the title but also promotion.

We got relegated under Saunders remember. Flynn has a clean record.

I don't attribute a great deal to Saunders. As you've quoted a number of times, we had a very healthy budget that year, and I think the players probably could have managed themselves given the strength of characters in the dressing room.

[DonnyOsmond]

If Flynn was better why when we got Lundstram, Furman and Coppinger did we get worse PPG than under Saunders? Surely with the better players and a better manager we'd have a better record?

[steve@dcfd]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

Will go along with that but it’s not straightforward to judge really.

Squad size, funding available, quality of players with said funding.
The use of players, the level at which the managers team played in. All managed DRFC in league 1 sometime at the club. Sometime mange when the club was on the up, some managed when the club had plateaued and going down.

[MachoMadness]

SO'D
Penney
Saunders
Flynn
Ferguson
Dickov

for me. Although that list doesn't accurately display the massive gulf between Dickov and the rest of them. Christ but he was a shit manager.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

How do you rank Flynn above Saunders?

He inherited a side that had title-winning form (in terms of points per game) and turned out a set of results that were mid-play-off form. Barring an outrageous stroke of good luck, he would have lost not only the title but also promotion.

We got relegated under Saunders remember. Flynn has a clean record.

I don't attribute a great deal to Saunders. As you've quoted a number of times, we had a very healthy budget that year, and I think the players probably could have managed themselves given the strength of characters in the dressing room.

Agreed that we got relegated under Saunders, but I doubt that the bas**rd love child of Brian Clough and Don Revie would have kept us up that season.

My point was that with pretty much precisely the same squad, Flynn's record was significantly worse than Saunders's in L1. That's the only direct like-for-like comparison that we really have between the two of them. 

[chrisd_123]

On this, something that does become apparent is that we should be a club that managers actively look at when the job comes up.

The fact we've only had 6 permanent managers in 15/16 years is staggering in this day and age.

Surely managers would look at it as a chance to show their worth at a club who don't sack managers left, right and centre.

[since-1969]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

Yes your correct there all RANK

[Retdon1]

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Dean Saunders
Brian Flynn

















Paul Dickov

[Draytonian III]

Sean O Driscoll
Dave Penney
Brian Flynn
Darren Ferguson
Paul Dickov







That Welsh bloke with the dodgy eyebrows

[The Red Baron]

For me it's SO'D followed by Penney with the rest nowhere. Rob Jones was mainly responsible for the 2012-13 promotion, though as captain and a leader in the dressing room rather than as a manager.

[Boomstick]

SOD
Penney
Saunders
Flynn
Sick of

[drfchound]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

Yes your correct there all RANK

I assume you mean rank bad.

There is a theme with your posts,  I had a quick glance back and according to you, McCall isn’t good enough, Houghton is shit, Whiteman not good enough, Northern Ireland are shite.

You are one angry young man.

[BillyStubbsTears]

On this, something that does become apparent is that we should be a club that managers actively look at when the job comes up.

The fact we've only had 6 permanent managers in 15/16 years is staggering in this day and age.

Surely managers would look at it as a chance to show their worth at a club who don't sack managers left, right and centre.

I remember as a kid reading in a football magazine in 1978 that we’d had more managerssince the war than any other English club. 23 I think it was in 43 years.

We had excellent stability with Penney and O’Driscoll - 2 managers in 11 years. But since then we’ve reverted to type - the new man will be the 5th manager in less than 7 years.

[scawsby steve]

Post-conference permenant mangers. For me.

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Brian Flynn      
Dean Saunders
Paul Dickov

How on earth is Ferguson ranked higher than the two men responsible for our League One title win?

[pib]

Sean O'Driscoll
Dave Penney
Darren Ferguson
Dean Saunders
Brian Flynn

















Paul Dickov

Not quite a big enough gap to Dickov there for me!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Funny how history gets written.

If the ref had done his job and blown for a foul at the Reebok in the last 20 seconds of 2013/14 season, Dickov would have been a hero. If Brentford had had a mester in the side in the last 20 seconds of 2012/13 to tell a jumped up little prick to get back in his box, Flynn would have been a catastrophe.

Fine margins.

[RedJ]

Aye. It's amazing that Dickov came within a gnat's chuff of keeping us in the Championship.

[drfchound]

Aye. It's amazing that Dickov came within a gnat's chuff of keeping us in the Championship.

Yep, what might have been if Mahrez hadn’t dived into the box eh.
Likewise, if Wellens hadn’t got crocked in that win at Leeds.

[RedJ]

Or if Dickov had just parked the bus in one of the final seven games rather than insist on going for the win in every match...

[pib]

Or if Dickov wasn't w*nk.

[drfchound]

Or if Dickov had just parked the bus in one of the final seven games rather than insist on going for the win in every match...

Hindsight eh mate.