Trouble after the game today . .

[thornabyred]

Boro gave the full end over to away fans last season after the cup game against Barrow.
Realised they could get more dosh and fill the other stands as well. Used to be half Boro and half away.
Looks like they were wanting to use the centre sections today,the cctv control unit and spotters are at the back of that section so everything will be monitored and recorded.

Couple of seasons back Man City kicked of towards the end of a game and the following week all of their faces were published in the press,and some were arrested. Two actually gave themselves up to the police before they came knocking.

[muff licker]

German Rover wrote:

muff licker wrote:

Keith Myath wrote:

Sad to say but we have some 2wats supporting our team, I would have quite happily waded through the scrotes who so call support our team

Keith thats a bold statement to say the least, and for the record if you want to/fancy your chances, then PLEASE wade through me.....it boils down to the fact that the 'boro stewards were complete tools and took it upon themselves to try and eject a young lad for fcuk all. Football is about the game and banter, and thats what was happening, we got f- all from the ground staff(stewards/security) and it was inevitable what was going to happen, i take it when it did go off you didnt fancy 'wading' through people then......you joke.

Sorry to disagree simon but thr kid had already been warned about his behaviour just like his mate in the other suit had, and continued to act like a knobhead running about and dancing in front of the boro fans, he deserved to go. The stewards were heavy handed dragging him backwards by the throat, but his mate in the away shirt and baseball cap was swinging at stewards landing a couple so that won't help his mate in the slightest.


I've said before, whe you go to an away match we will always be public enemy no1, the lad by all accounts was winding the boro' fans up but that was it, the way it took 6 stewards to eject the lad was crying out for something to kick off, if that had been at say cardiff then trust me the fans would have over run the stewards, they are there to pretect other fans but today the could have instigated a riot.
Best question is what the fcuk were they doing in suits anyway

[NickDRFC]

\"Best question is what the fcuk were they doing in suits anyway\"

Yeah, who would wear suits to a football game? Send your answers to John Ryan...

[Stu The Tickhill Red]

I have to say that there were more d**kheads in the Rovers end than I had seen for a long time. Grown men who should know better! Several fans moved to seats near to the home corner(we did so we could sit together), a group of around 15 or so, all must have been in their late 30's to late 40's were sat in this area, and spent nearly the whole of the first half winding the Boro fans up and having a go at the Stewards. Why do they spend 26pound and never watch the game?

I didn't see anything thrown in the ground, but did outside. I saw one of the main Boro trouble fan outside at the front.
I was with two girls so didn't hang around(I wouldn't even on my own)

A personal word to end,


GROW UP & GET A LIFE. You don't do the Club or yourselves any good.

Stu.

 :angry:

[Stu The Tickhill Red]

jucyberry wrote:

Rios wrote:

One guy, think he was from Boro was totally spark out in the middle of it with other Boro fans trying to protect him as he was still taking kicks whilst down.  Didn't recognise the two \"Donny\" lads who were wading in at the front and I know most of our faces.

Who ever they were, be it Donny  or Boro I hope they were caught, to kick someone when he is down and to keep kicking is disgusting, barbaric and I hope the book is thrown at them.. Mindless thuggery has no excuse.

Well said.

[hoolahoop]

jucyberry wrote:

Rios wrote:

One guy, think he was from Boro was totally spark out in the middle of it with other Boro fans trying to protect him as he was still taking kicks whilst down.  Didn't recognise the two \"Donny\" lads who were wading in at the front and I know most of our faces.

Who ever they were, be it Donny  or Boro I hope they were caught, to kick someone when he is down and to keep kicking is disgusting, barbaric and I hope the book is thrown at them.. Mindless thuggery has no excuse.

I have to agree but tbf you would have to see all of the action to really apportion blame. Seems I will have to tie my scarf around my wrist again as in the late 60's. to protct myself.    :angry:

[thornabyred]

Just heard from one of the stewards and he was saying Boro and Donny winding each other up in the ground then it kicked off outside. Bottles and coins being chucked by Donny fans to start with.Then retaliated by Boro.

[stockyboy]

Stu The Tickhill Red wrote:

I have to say that there were more d**kheads in the Rovers end than I had seen for a long time. Grown men who should know better! Several fans moved to seats near to the home corner(we did so we could sit together), a group of around 15 or so, all must have been in their late 30's to late 40's were sat in this area, and spent nearly the whole of the first half winding the Boro fans up and having a go at the Stewards. Why do they spend 26pound and never watch the game?

Got to agree this is the first time i've seen our fans do something like this, these people should know better then to start fighting and end up getting banned from matches. Both set of fans were as bad as each other but come on now the team could get in trouble because of some stupid people.

[NathanDRFC]

On the 'Boro Forum

http://fansonline.net/middlesbrough/mb/

I got caught up in the middle of it all after the game was plenty of trouble outside, saw several donny fans streaming with blood kicked of properly. The stewards were trying to seperate th fans (done a decent job to be fair) no police in sight. Then a couple of police horses charged through the two fans and at the middle fans to push us all back. A lot of blokes said they were all off to he train station to carry the trouble on. Can't believe there was no police.

 

I went home passed the station and it was quiet. Part of the reason for it kicking off was the coaches being where the were. The Doncaster fans had nowhere to go, so clearly the two fans are going to continue goading each other.

This is what I was told from the police policing the subway after the game:

The grounds of MFC are private land and they are powerless to be on the land of MFC unless otherwise invited by the club. Just the same as an incident in your own home as the policeman put it.

Sounds to me like MFC penny pinching. How they can't want Police at a game with a team from Yorkshire with a sizeable away following is beyond me.

I can only assume it is MFC's decision to put the buses right outside the South Stand which is a recipe for disaster as we found out today people with kids (like myself) getting caught up in all the bother without a policeman to be seen. Someone on one of the Doncaster buses filmed it all. There was also words exchanged/abit of bother after the Sheffield Utd game but no where on the scale/numbers of today.

You'll never take the Boro was all I could hear, Did Donny fans actually come to take the Boro or was it the Boro fans that started it who knows. One thing I do know is that there were plenty of Police outside Doctor Browns before the game and they had rounded up a number of people over the road from Doctor Browns and they weren't going anywhere!

I'm guessing in the Premier League Policing or not isn't an option, I'm sure they'll be an investigation after this to ensure we don't see scenes like this again. I could understand a Police free game against someone like Plymouth who would bring a couple of hundred fans but Doncaster?

What I actually saw was there was 'banter' between the two sets of fans which was always going to happen because of the genius place they put the buses[^]. It was all quite tame until the stewards came in and were a bit aggressive which angered the Doncaster fans who then attempted to 'charge' the Boro fans and all they achieved really was running into their fists. Grown men ffs.

there was nearly a riot during the game.

the SE corner started singing \"whos the XXXXXX in the suit\" to which the \"XXXXXX in the suit\" started taunting on the stairs so the stewards went to stop him, which is fair enough.

the trouble started when the area supervisor (the guy in the royal blue jacket) started getting really aggressive with the donny fan and almost strangling him, so the donny fans moved towards the boro fans and visa-versa.

got pretty tasty for a little while

[Redandwhitewhizards]

Goes back to what I was saying earlier, I don't think many of them were fans at all, just people looking for trouble, maybe they got wind of the fact it was a no police match and wanted to try and take 'advantage' of that?

It doesn't reflect well on our fans or the club, and its a shame, because I bet for about 20 away matches of the season they are no where to be seen and its the fans who go to the games simply to enjoy the football on show etc who end up suffering.

[18thsouthstandrover]

German Rover wrote:

two dicks in suits trying to wind everyone in boro stand up, one and his frankly retarded looking friend got thrown out after being warned

Stand up Mr Croft..

[jucyberry]

But Steve, how can kicking someone who is on the floor ever be the right thing to do? if someone slaps you and you cant turn the other cheek, (something I know would be next to impossible)then slap them back, dont watch them fall then stick the boot in over and over again, there is NEVER ever an excuse for that.

 It is what kills .

[German Rover]

DRFC Browny wrote:

bobjimwilly wrote:

German Rover wrote:

Best question is what the fcuk were they doing in suits anyway

   good question? My bro said he's seem him before in donny bus station being a pillock? All the boro fans were singing \"who's the dickead in the suit?\"  

im sorry but your bro is full of bullsh*t cos the person in the suit at donny bus station was with me and my mates and hes wasnt bein a pillock at all he was just fine

Sorry mate was sat in front of you lot and your mate was acting a prick til he got thrown out and then started crying

[BarryEvans]

What is so wrong in goading opposition fans?

Its a football match for christs sake.

The lack of policing was the problem here.

[muff licker]

Redandwhitewhizards wrote:

Goes back to what I was saying earlier, I don't think many of them were fans at all, just people looking for trouble, maybe they got wind of the fact it was a no police match and wanted to try and take 'advantage' of that?

It doesn't reflect well on our fans or the club, and its a shame, because I bet for about 20 away matches of the season they are no where to be seen and its the fans who go to the games simply to enjoy the football on show etc who end up suffering.

Yeah beacause some rovers fans heard at 2.30pm that there was hardly any police prescence.....please give me a break, bbanter between fans is what happens as long as there is no violence then let people crack on with it, the stewards were totally out of order and were to blame for what happened today, no ifs or buts.

[DRFC Browny]

why the f**k are you moaning about mr croft and the other person in the suit its up to them what they come to the match in

its not effecting you or harming you so shut the f**k up

[Redandwhitewhizards]

It wasn't just banter though was it? You say that its fine if there is no violence and I certainly don't disagree with you, but there was violence, and you can't blame the stewards for the fans kicking off outside... You can only blame the fans for that surely? No one forces them to go at each other. If like minded people want to fight it out etc, then I have no problem with that, its when others get caught up in it like the poor old man who was dragged out from the middle of it all, or the kids who were running away crying!

[Rios]

jucyberry wrote:

But Steve, how can kicking someone who is on the floor ever be the right thing to do? if someone slaps you and you cant turn the other cheek, (something I know would be next to impossible)then slap them back, dont watch them fall then stick the boot in over and over again, there is NEVER ever an excuse for that.

 It is what kills .

It's always very dangerous to comment on something you haven't witnessed.  It was a pack mentality and once someone stood over the guy and had his arms outstretched it stopped straight away.  I highly doubt it was the guy who laid the punch, he was probably in the process of getting leathered.  NOTHING is ever black and white.

[bobjimwilly]

The stewards weren't the problem here. They even let most of the trouble causers stay till the end when I would have kicked them out long before. When a group of men go to a football match, don't actually watch it and for 90 mins throw abuse and disgusting language at the opposition fans, they are the ones causing the problem... IMO of course  

[German Rover]

DRFC Browny wrote:

why the fcuk are you moaning about mr croft and the other person in the suit its up to them what they come to the match in

its not effecting you or harming you so shut the fcuk up

It affects all of us when their behaviour directly contributed to the trouble and will in the future lead to heavier policing at rovers games, we have always been treated quite well home and away compared to some other teams (Leeds,Millwall and West ham for example). this however will end up changing. I hope ypur mates are proud of themselves cause it makes us all look bad.

[Mr Croft]

Firstly I was the other lad in the suit, and I had not been Warned at all, i went to the toilet and I admit bieng in a suit would bring attention and I ognored the comments the boro fans thrown to me as I made my way back to my seat

then my other mate (in suit) and my brother (with baseball cap and rovers shirt) walked down to toilet a few minutes later and abuse was thrown at them like at me, they did not ignore it and kissed the rovers badge as they walked down, the steward said something to them as they went uindergound about not provoking the boro fans. On their way back up a chant was started along the lines of \"who's the w**ker in the suit\" upon which my mate just opened his jacket and immediatly there was 4 stewrads on him, and when my brother tried to interven he was also refrained, one of the stewards on my mate started choking him as they moved him until the point when he was sick, and that is something he deserved for just opening his jacket

After bieng ejected we went round to see some other stewards about complaining and they we're happy and more reasonable, and when we explained what had gone off they we're unhappy at it, tok a few statements, and even escorted one of us back into the ground so we could collect our flag?

So choking a kid untill he is sick just because he opened up his jacket is a way of controlling the crowd, okay they we're looking for excuses but frankly i don't see that as one, the stewards was a disgrace

why wear a suit? I'm entitled to wear what I want to a football match, and yes today it got us into bother, but seriously you can't use that as an excuse for the stewards behaviour, If a child is misbehaving then there are other ways than choking him.

[Mr Croft]

Firstly I was the other lad in the suit, and I had not been Warned at all, i went to the toilet and I admit bieng in a suit would bring attention and I ognored the comments the boro fans thrown to me as I made my way back to my seat

then my other mate (in suit) and my brother (with baseball cap and rovers shirt) walked down to toilet a few minutes later and abuse was thrown at them like at me, they did not ignore it and kissed the rovers badge as they walked down, the steward said something to them as they went uindergound about not provoking the boro fans. On their way back up a chant was started along the lines of \"who's the w**ker in the suit\" upon which my mate just opened his jacket and immediatly there was 4 stewrads on him, and when my brother tried to interven he was also refrained, one of the stewards on my mate started choking him as they moved him until the point when he was sick, and that is something he deserved for just opening his jacket

After bieng ejected we went round to see some other stewards about complaining and they we're happy and more reasonable, and when we explained what had gone off they we're unhappy at it, tok a few statements, and even escorted one of us back into the ground so we could collect our flag?

So choking a kid untill he is sick just because he opened up his jacket is a way of controlling the crowd, okay they we're looking for excuses but frankly i don't see that as one, the stewards was a disgrace

why wear a suit? I'm entitled to wear what I want to a football match, and yes today it got us into bother, but seriously you can't use that as an excuse for the stewards behaviour, If a child is misbehaving then there are other ways than choking him.

[Adam]

DRFC Browny wrote:

why the fcuk are you moaning about mr croft and the other person in the suit its up to them what they come to the match in

its not effecting you or harming you so shut the fcuk up

It obviously is if the 'fans' in suits are causing the trouble. Pillock.

[Championship Pub Team]

have to agree Mr Croft, how the the stewards treated him was out of order

[Keith Myath]

Sad to say but we have some 2wats supporting our team, I would have quite happily waded through the scrotes who so call support our team

[German Rover]

he didn't just open his jacket though he moved towards the boro fans had already been warned so was thrown out, its that simple mate, there were plenty of us there to watch the game not scream abuse at the people in the home end.

[Mr Croft]

no took one step forward and opened up his jacket, the CCTV will also back up that statement,

[JoshDRFC]

There was obviously more to it than just \"opening his jacket\" and if he was warned before then it's his own fault and there's no excuse. You're always going to expect stewards to treat away fans with little tolerance.

Like GR said, there was many people there to watch a game of football and not act like dicks and show us up.

[Rios]

Mr Croft wrote:

Firstly I was the other lad in the suit, and I had not been Warned at all, i went to the toilet and I admit bieng in a suit would bring attention and I ognored the comments the boro fans thrown to me as I made my way back to my seat

then my other mate (in suit) and my brother (with baseball cap and rovers shirt) walked down to toilet a few minutes later and abuse was thrown at them like at me, they did not ignore it and kissed the rovers badge as they walked down, the steward said something to them as they went uindergound about not provoking the boro fans. On their way back up a chant was started along the lines of \"who's the wonker in the suit\" upon which my mate just opened his jacket and immediatly there was 4 stewrads on him, and when my brother tried to interven he was also refrained, one of the stewards on my mate started choking him as they moved him until the point when he was sick, and that is something he deserved for just opening his jacket

After bieng ejected we went round to see some other stewards about complaining and they we're happy and more reasonable, and when we explained what had gone off they we're unhappy at it, tok a few statements, and even escorted one of us back into the ground so we could collect our flag?

So choking a kid untill he is sick just because he opened up his jacket is a way of controlling the crowd, okay they we're looking for excuses but frankly i don't see that as one, the stewards was a disgrace

why wear a suit? I'm entitled to wear what I want to a football match, and yes today it got us into bother, but seriously you can't use that as an excuse for the stewards behaviour, If a child is misbehaving then there are other ways than choking him.

I was some way away from the incident as my seat (am I the only one who sits in his allocated seat???  How old fashioned!)  was down the front.  I do have one really, really important question for you Mr Croft....


were you wearing a Hull City tie?  

[kyle17balby]

i went no where near the borough fans dont talk rubbish i oppened my jacket closed it went to carry on wlaking i had a hand in my throat and 4 people on me , i love it when people say you did stuff and dont realise that your sat reading these comments lol