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All those have failed as managers some at clubs at the same level as ourselves with lots more money to spend. Our current manager has not failed as yet especially with a team of his own players that he could take the blame for, he has to have a transfer window for that, if not two.
Quote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 04:20:10 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 03:40:57 pmJust checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on trackAs I've mentioned elsewhere the club, players and their agents, have all held discussions and decisions will be made later based on the various requirements that suit each individual situation. There's no disagreements, just that some players will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. That suits us too.I was just casting my mind forward to the future SM. Player contracts for any manager, be it AB or a new incumbent is something that will need sorting as a priority. I was also looking at contracts in the context of the club statement, relating to Andys position. The statement eludes to an expectation of him being around next season.Interesting your ref to agents. Football would be a much better place without them don’t you think? I rate them the same as I rate estate agents. And that’s not very high.
Quote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 03:40:57 pmJust checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on trackAs I've mentioned elsewhere the club, players and their agents, have all held discussions and decisions will be made later based on the various requirements that suit each individual situation. There's no disagreements, just that some players will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. That suits us too.
Just checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on track
Quote from: selby on April 06, 2021, 03:40:29 pm All those have failed as managers some at clubs at the same level as ourselves with lots more money to spend. Our current manager has not failed as yet especially with a team of his own players that he could take the blame for, he has to have a transfer window for that, if not two.Brian, as I've said in another thread, if this shocking run continues, and AB is still appointed for next season, we'd be struggling to sell 1000 season tickets.
Quote from: scawsby steve on April 06, 2021, 05:50:34 pmQuote from: selby on April 06, 2021, 03:40:29 pm All those have failed as managers some at clubs at the same level as ourselves with lots more money to spend. Our current manager has not failed as yet especially with a team of his own players that he could take the blame for, he has to have a transfer window for that, if not two.Brian, as I've said in another thread, if this shocking run continues, and AB is still appointed for next season, we'd be struggling to sell 1000 season tickets.ss, I don't think that anybody has intimated that AB will be a permanent appointment.We have a process for appointing managers, which has worked well so far, so put your faith in that.
Quote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 06:33:08 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 06, 2021, 05:50:34 pmQuote from: selby on April 06, 2021, 03:40:29 pm All those have failed as managers some at clubs at the same level as ourselves with lots more money to spend. Our current manager has not failed as yet especially with a team of his own players that he could take the blame for, he has to have a transfer window for that, if not two.Brian, as I've said in another thread, if this shocking run continues, and AB is still appointed for next season, we'd be struggling to sell 1000 season tickets.ss, I don't think that anybody has intimated that AB will be a permanent appointment.We have a process for appointing managers, which has worked well so far, so put your faith in that.OK, but why throw the season away in appointing someone with zero experience?Someone who as a senior pro was part of the rot that set in before moore left, and still expect him to turn it around and finish in the play offs.Surely you can admit it was a monumental mistake, based on blind faith and hope?
Steve, unlikely I know on current form but if and it's a big big if we do go on a run of wins to the end of the season and do sneak in the playoffs the same people wanting him sacked would kiss his ass who are asking for his head now, and it seems I have to include you in that number.
Quote from: selby on April 06, 2021, 06:25:21 pm Steve, unlikely I know on current form but if and it's a big big if we do go on a run of wins to the end of the season and do sneak in the playoffs the same people wanting him sacked would kiss his ass who are asking for his head now, and it seems I have to include you in that number.Brian, if AB gets us into the play-offs, I'll kiss your ass, as well as his.
Quote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 04:27:18 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 04:20:10 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 03:40:57 pmJust checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on trackAs I've mentioned elsewhere the club, players and their agents, have all held discussions and decisions will be made later based on the various requirements that suit each individual situation. There's no disagreements, just that some players will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. That suits us too.I was just casting my mind forward to the future SM. Player contracts for any manager, be it AB or a new incumbent is something that will need sorting as a priority. I was also looking at contracts in the context of the club statement, relating to Andys position. The statement eludes to an expectation of him being around next season.Interesting your ref to agents. Football would be a much better place without them don’t you think? I rate them the same as I rate estate agents. And that’s not very high.A couple of points nr. I think there's been some misunderstanding about AB and any responsibility for renewing contracts, I don't think it's ever been stated by the club that he would be doing it. He may have mentioned it himself but my understanding is that GB, DB and Adam Henshall are dealing with that side of things. It's a possibility of course that the club may want input from any new manager if one comes in, and that would make sense as well.As for agents!! Jeez, they've caused this club more problems in the last few years than I care to mention. They get in players (and managers) ears and really upset the apple cart. They should be done away with.
Quote from: Getridorit on April 06, 2021, 06:40:02 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 06:33:08 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on April 06, 2021, 05:50:34 pmQuote from: selby on April 06, 2021, 03:40:29 pm All those have failed as managers some at clubs at the same level as ourselves with lots more money to spend. Our current manager has not failed as yet especially with a team of his own players that he could take the blame for, he has to have a transfer window for that, if not two.Brian, as I've said in another thread, if this shocking run continues, and AB is still appointed for next season, we'd be struggling to sell 1000 season tickets.ss, I don't think that anybody has intimated that AB will be a permanent appointment.We have a process for appointing managers, which has worked well so far, so put your faith in that.OK, but why throw the season away in appointing someone with zero experience?Someone who as a senior pro was part of the rot that set in before moore left, and still expect him to turn it around and finish in the play offs.Surely you can admit it was a monumental mistake, based on blind faith and hope? You don't learn much do you? There's a whole bunch of posters on this forum who seem to be understanding of the current situation, and then there's you, boring and monotonous.
Quote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 06:14:55 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 04:27:18 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 04:20:10 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 03:40:57 pmJust checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on trackAs I've mentioned elsewhere the club, players and their agents, have all held discussions and decisions will be made later based on the various requirements that suit each individual situation. There's no disagreements, just that some players will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. That suits us too.I was just casting my mind forward to the future SM. Player contracts for any manager, be it AB or a new incumbent is something that will need sorting as a priority. I was also looking at contracts in the context of the club statement, relating to Andys position. The statement eludes to an expectation of him being around next season.Interesting your ref to agents. Football would be a much better place without them don’t you think? I rate them the same as I rate estate agents. And that’s not very high.A couple of points nr. I think there's been some misunderstanding about AB and any responsibility for renewing contracts, I don't think it's ever been stated by the club that he would be doing it. He may have mentioned it himself but my understanding is that GB, DB and Adam Henshall are dealing with that side of things. It's a possibility of course that the club may want input from any new manager if one comes in, and that would make sense as well.As for agents!! Jeez, they've caused this club more problems in the last few years than I care to mention. They get in players (and managers) ears and really upset the apple cart. They should be done away with.SM, I never stated AB had responsibility for renewing contracts. I commented that AB or any manager incumbent would be needing to "sort" contracts as a priority, (be that renew or not). The club expressed that they expect AB to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season. That's pretty unambiguous to me and I expect to see AB as manager for next season. I find it hard to believe, whoever the manager is, that he will not be integral to contract talks. Adam has left the club has'nt he for Villa?
We've got a year's extention on Taylor don't we?
Quote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 07:47:51 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 06:14:55 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 04:27:18 pmQuote from: silent majority on April 06, 2021, 04:20:10 pmQuote from: normal rules on April 06, 2021, 03:40:57 pmJust checking the contracts for the first team. 20 contracts expire before the end of may or June this year. And to quote the club when DM left and AB was appointed: Our ambitions remain to achieve a top-six finish and we hope and expect that Andy will use this time to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season.“Andy’s first priority will be to halt the team’s recent run of poor form and put our season back on trackAs I've mentioned elsewhere the club, players and their agents, have all held discussions and decisions will be made later based on the various requirements that suit each individual situation. There's no disagreements, just that some players will wait and see what happens over the next few weeks. That suits us too.I was just casting my mind forward to the future SM. Player contracts for any manager, be it AB or a new incumbent is something that will need sorting as a priority. I was also looking at contracts in the context of the club statement, relating to Andys position. The statement eludes to an expectation of him being around next season.Interesting your ref to agents. Football would be a much better place without them don’t you think? I rate them the same as I rate estate agents. And that’s not very high.A couple of points nr. I think there's been some misunderstanding about AB and any responsibility for renewing contracts, I don't think it's ever been stated by the club that he would be doing it. He may have mentioned it himself but my understanding is that GB, DB and Adam Henshall are dealing with that side of things. It's a possibility of course that the club may want input from any new manager if one comes in, and that would make sense as well.As for agents!! Jeez, they've caused this club more problems in the last few years than I care to mention. They get in players (and managers) ears and really upset the apple cart. They should be done away with.SM, I never stated AB had responsibility for renewing contracts. I commented that AB or any manager incumbent would be needing to "sort" contracts as a priority, (be that renew or not). The club expressed that they expect AB to put himself in the prime position to secure the role on a permanent basis at the end of the season. That's pretty unambiguous to me and I expect to see AB as manager for next season. I find it hard to believe, whoever the manager is, that he will not be integral to contract talks. Adam has left the club has'nt he for Villa? nr, I never said you did, it was a general observation that a few posters are under that impression. I think if you look at what DB said about the appointment of AB until the end of the season he said that he hoped that AB would put himself into a strong position for consideration, meaning, how I see it, that he was hoping that AB would keep us firmly in the play-off spots meaning he would have a strong case for taking part in the interview process. It all depends on performance surely?The club appear to be pretty relaxed about the contract situation, as I've mentioned before the players and club have agreements in place to conclude negotiations at a certain point in time, one that suits all parties. And, as you allude to it, they would obviously expect some input from a team manager, of which we don't have a permanent one as yet. As for Adam, it was announced at the time, (by me I think) that he would be helping the club during the transition period. His work, because its always about forward planning, was already in place, so it makes sense for him to have input to that.