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Quote from: wilts rover on March 04, 2023, 11:17:20 pmQuote from: Branton Red on March 04, 2023, 10:53:54 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 04, 2023, 10:42:21 pmBranton.And how many of those Mail readers do you think were likely to be Labour supporters?Irrelevant. Labour has to overturn a 80 seat majority plus Tory gerrymandering and dirty tricks (e.g. voter ID) to get into power.The question is how many potential swing voters (i.e. who voted Tory in 2019 but potentially may vote Labour) see this headline or this story. And what is their response?Not everybody follows politics as closely as you or I. Not everybody will know all the ins and outs of Partygate. Not everybody shares your strong political bias either.It is wrong and wholly naive to believe that only the "pig thick" wavering swing voter would react negatively towards Labour on seeing this story.I would guess if they don't follow politics that closely they wont give a monkeys who Labour's chief of staff is. But they will remember the photos of Johnson at the parties and the Queen on her own at her husbands funeral.And there ain't many swing voters read the Daily Heil. In fact there ain't that many people reading it all now, they are making people redundant due to falling sales.There are many unbiased, honest people who will also remember the hypocrisy of seeing photos of Starmer brazenly supping beer at Beergate.
Quote from: Branton Red on March 04, 2023, 10:53:54 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 04, 2023, 10:42:21 pmBranton.And how many of those Mail readers do you think were likely to be Labour supporters?Irrelevant. Labour has to overturn a 80 seat majority plus Tory gerrymandering and dirty tricks (e.g. voter ID) to get into power.The question is how many potential swing voters (i.e. who voted Tory in 2019 but potentially may vote Labour) see this headline or this story. And what is their response?Not everybody follows politics as closely as you or I. Not everybody will know all the ins and outs of Partygate. Not everybody shares your strong political bias either.It is wrong and wholly naive to believe that only the "pig thick" wavering swing voter would react negatively towards Labour on seeing this story.I would guess if they don't follow politics that closely they wont give a monkeys who Labour's chief of staff is. But they will remember the photos of Johnson at the parties and the Queen on her own at her husbands funeral.And there ain't many swing voters read the Daily Heil. In fact there ain't that many people reading it all now, they are making people redundant due to falling sales.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 04, 2023, 10:42:21 pmBranton.And how many of those Mail readers do you think were likely to be Labour supporters?Irrelevant. Labour has to overturn a 80 seat majority plus Tory gerrymandering and dirty tricks (e.g. voter ID) to get into power.The question is how many potential swing voters (i.e. who voted Tory in 2019 but potentially may vote Labour) see this headline or this story. And what is their response?Not everybody follows politics as closely as you or I. Not everybody will know all the ins and outs of Partygate. Not everybody shares your strong political bias either.It is wrong and wholly naive to believe that only the "pig thick" wavering swing voter would react negatively towards Labour on seeing this story.
Branton.And how many of those Mail readers do you think were likely to be Labour supporters?
Yes BB.And those honest, unbiased people clearly choose to forget that the Durham Police held a detailed investigation into that and concluded that it was a perfectly acceptable example of eating and drinking whole working.Strange that honest, unbiased people would choose to do that, but I guess it takes all sorts...
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 05, 2023, 12:30:14 amYes BB.And those honest, unbiased people clearly choose to forget that the Durham Police held a detailed investigation into that and concluded that it was a perfectly acceptable example of eating and drinking whole working.Strange that honest, unbiased people would choose to do that, but I guess it takes all sorts...Honest, unbiased people wouldn't find it strange.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on March 05, 2023, 08:51:32 amQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 05, 2023, 12:30:14 amYes BB.And those honest, unbiased people clearly choose to forget that the Durham Police held a detailed investigation into that and concluded that it was a perfectly acceptable example of eating and drinking whole working.Strange that honest, unbiased people would choose to do that, but I guess it takes all sorts...Honest, unbiased people wouldn't find it strange. Like you would know.
So Starmer won't answer the question on when she was first approached. It's looking a bit awkward for them at the minute, can't deny that.
Of course the alternative is that the Mail editorial staff know their readers are too pig thick to figure out for themselves what a f**king stupid headline this is.
I'll just leave this here
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 06, 2023, 11:35:24 amSo Starmer won't answer the question on when she was first approached. It's looking a bit awkward for them at the minute, can't deny that.Here’s the video https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1632672778808709120?s=46&t=Uj9lS9cW2ksdznjWwHqrkQ
This is a clear indication of how far out of his depth Starmer will be when he's PM. He's been drowning in the relatively shallow end in his role as the opposition leader since his appointment.
Anyway, as I say, if the Labour lead has halved in the next set of polls, you're right and I'm wrong.
if/when labour get in power, will we get huge public sector pay rises?
Well, apart from honesty and integrity at the top of course.Just think, no scandals or wrong doing by MPs.Off topic will become redundant.