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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Butchers Red on February 13, 2024, 10:58:21 pm
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What a performance from the lad - he is a genuine threat every time he gets on the ball, uses it well, prepared to take defenders on whilst not running down blind alleys and clearly can finish - very unlucky with the pitch causing that heavy touch when in on goal. A genuine game changer.
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What a performance from the lad - he is a genuine threat every time he gets on the ball, uses it well, prepared to take defenders on whilst not running down blind alleys and clearly can finish - very unlucky with the pitch causing that heavy touch when in on goal. A genuine game changer.
He is just what we’ve been looking for . Somebody who will fight for every ball !!
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A bit of size, pace, trickery and goal threat.
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He curled one just past the post at 2-1 as well. I was right behind the goal and thought it was going in at first.
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An upgrade on Faal! Who still hasn’t scored for Walsall
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Faal is a good player as well. If he hadn’t gone I don’t think we would have Adelakun. Always liked him as a player, good quality when on his game.
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What a performance from the lad - he is a genuine threat every time he gets on the ball, uses it well, prepared to take defenders on whilst not running down blind alleys and clearly can finish - very unlucky with the pitch causing that heavy touch when in on goal. A genuine game changer.
Just a shame he couldn’t have stretched out and squared the ball left to Craig who would have a simple tap in.
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
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Should have buried the one on one and the other chance
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
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Even though he missed those 2 chances he made them both on his own pretty much.
He’s a breath of fresh air and exactly what we needed.
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
I agree, the first thing I thought when we scored was that it was a “clean” goal. Nice pass, nice finish. Not a set piece, scramble, horror defending or anything like that.
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
I agree, the first thing I thought when we scored was that it was a “clean” goal. Nice pass, nice finish. Not a set piece, scramble, horror defending or anything like that.
He took the goal superbly well given the conditions & state of the pitch too.
I was talking to my postman the other day & he said his xg’s weren’t that great but felt that perhaps that was down to lack of confidence & belief in his abilities having been chopped & changed at the clubs he’s been at. We both agreed that Grant was obviously someone who knew & trusted him well enough (having brought him to Hull when there) & Adelakun would respond to that trust. He certainly has so far & I’d like us to be able to give him a contract come the end of the season as I don’t think (maybe Hurst ‘on his day’) we have a player currently on the books who can offer that turn of pace & ability to score those types of goal.
My postie also said that Joe’s goal against Tranmere was also a ‘nice clean goal’, with the delivery from Haks being nigh on perfect & let’s face it, he should know all about deliveries no pun intended!
(It was actually).
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
I agree, the first thing I thought when we scored was that it was a “clean” goal. Nice pass, nice finish. Not a set piece, scramble, horror defending or anything like that.
He took the goal superbly well given the conditions & state of the pitch too.
I was talking to my postman the other day & he said his xg’s weren’t that great but felt that perhaps that was down to lack of confidence & belief in his abilities having been chopped & changed at the clubs he’s been at. We both agreed that Grant was obviously someone who knew & trusted him well enough (having brought him to Hull when there) & Adelakun would respond to that trust. He certainly has so far & I’d like us to be able to give him a contract come the end of the season as I don’t think (maybe Hurst ‘on his day’) we have a player currently on the books who can offer that turn of pace & ability to score those types of goal.
My postie also said that Joe’s goal against Tranmere was also a ‘nice clean goal’, with the delivery from Haks being nigh on perfect & let’s face it, he should know all about deliveries no pun intended!
(It was actually).
So we now know what Copps is doing.
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
We haven't seen goals like that since we had John-Jules and Richards and having an eye for a break through the defence where he takes on the goalkeeper (and scored against Tranmere) is something that hasn't been there for quite a long time either. Instead of just having to worry about Ironside he certainly presents a second serious threat for opposition defences.
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When's his contract up at Lincoln?
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The main difference is the ball is coming out of the midfield going forward instead of mostly sideways and and being turned back to the full backs, we are more direct, it gives players with pace a chance, for ages they have had no chance and have been given the ball facing their own goal or nothing balls with a defender on them.
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When's his contract up at Lincoln?
This summer.
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Out of contract this summer I believe but I am told he's on big money at Lincoln £5k!
My info comes from my young friend at Lincoln Uni who reports for the Uni paper, proper press pass, interviews etc.
Mindst you they only found out about his long throw this season by accident in training when he launched one and the manager didn't know he could do it.
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With regards to the long throw, he did a huge one at Sutton, a slightly less successful one on Saturday, and thats it, surely he would take everyone as if it's done well, it's an absolute weapon?
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I don’t much care for our throw ins either side, lately by Senior & Sterry.
Senior takes an age, mind you it doesn’t help with the lack of movement of players to receive the ball, & Sterry’s throws more often than not go backwards thus negating any chance of attacking momentum.
Don’t we practice throws as part of our ‘dead ball’ situations in training?
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
I agree, the first thing I thought when we scored was that it was a “clean” goal. Nice pass, nice finish. Not a set piece, scramble, horror defending or anything like that.
I felt exactly the same. It was like watching another team score the goal.
I don’t think I’d realised previously that we don’t seem to score goals like that at all
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I don’t much care for our throw ins either side, lately by Senior & Sterry.
Senior takes an age, mind you it doesn’t help with the lack of movement of players to receive the ball, & Sterry’s throws more often than not go backwards thus negating any chance of attacking momentum.
Don’t we practice throws as part of our ‘dead ball’ situations in training?
We’ve been poor at throw ins since cops stopped playing. No one we can consistently throw to under pressure and trust to keep it.
My theory for why we take so long is your own throw in is often one of the most vulnerable times for a team with possession getting turned over. So we slow it down to be safe.
Prefer we went for it personally and took the view we’d score more from quick action than we’d concede.
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Let’s hope Lincoln don’t want him
Back . A summer signing for rovers for sure . He could do a job for us next season in this league.
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He’s clearly playing for a contract, let’s just hope if he gets one he still plays with the same hunger.
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I was saying to my boy during the game: how is he on loan to us from Lincoln?
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What a performance from the lad - he is a genuine threat every time he gets on the ball, uses it well, prepared to take defenders on whilst not running down blind alleys and clearly can finish - very unlucky with the pitch causing that heavy touch when in on goal. A genuine game changer.Man of the Match today , how come we’ve got this brilliant player , he should be playing in the Championship !!!
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He seems to be that missing ingredient. The one with a bit more skill and vision that raises the performance level. Often Copps would be the touch of class but we've also seen the likes of McIndoe, Wellens, JJ Price etc, who add the cream on top separating us from being distinctly average.
As said on the other threads he, TLT, Wood, Anderson and Craig have all stepped up to the plate in recent games contributing to our change in fortunes.
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Simple - the difference in quality levels of the leagues. League two is appalling, and we have performed so far, as bad as any team could do, but there are green shoots.
Adelukan is used to playing a higher level - and it shows, a lot of our squad are either used to playing at this level, or below… I do believe most of the signings will eventually show their talent though, they just need confidence.
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It looks like Adelukan is enjoying playing. Get the lad a contract offered ASAP. He reminds me of Wilkes when he could be bothered! Pace, power and creative!
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When was the last time we've had a player perform consistently well in 3 games in a week?
Last Saturday: 1 goal, 1 assist
Midweek: 1 goal
Today: 3 assists
Looks absolutely quality and the first player in a long while that gets me excited at the prospect of going to a game.
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Adding Westbrook to Craig and Bailey now looks like something to look forward to!
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
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He’s been the real difference in a few games now. Let’s see if he can sustain some decent form for the next month or two. We’ve spent the last month going round in circles beating up our recruitment strategy and now people are wanting to sign a guy who apparently is on very good money, after a few games of good form. This is the kind of madness that got us to this point. We’d all like him to be the consistent threat he has shown in recent games but he would be an expensive wage commitment so we need to have greater surety he can do this over a sustained period.
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I liked what Faal did for us but I think that Adelakun adds much more than him.
He is more direct and physically more powerful.
He sometimes messes up by trying things and losing the ball but with him and Moly we have two players now who can make defenders uncertain about which way they are going.
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I think Adelukun enjoys an assist as much as a goal
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Adelukan? Another one to add to Billy Sharpe, Richard Woods, and Terry Bramhall.
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Adelakun is Faal on steroids!
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Good thing about him is that GM knows him, and looks like he can get a tune out of a player who others have maybe misunderstood?
If he can play at this level consistently we will have trouble getting anywhere near him next season, unfortunately.
Lets hope the buy in from our management towards him can keep him going, for us.
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It also augurs well for next season if this is the level of player that GM is looking to bring into the club, im hoping the wage pot can match the potential of player that GM and the club want and need.
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He was my motm ..... Really gave it everything and most times it came off
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I liked what Faal did for us but I think that Adelakun adds much more than him.
He is more direct and physically more powerful.
He sometimes messes up by trying things and losing the ball but with him and Moly we have two players now who can make defenders uncertain about which way they are going.
The thing is hound if he didn’t sometimes mess up and lose the ball then he wouldn’t be playing for us in league 2. But I agree gives us another threat on the otherside rather than it being all on moly to create something for us
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Adelukan? Another one to add to Billy Sharpe, Richard Woods, and Terry Bramhall.
I wonder who he's backing in the St. Ledger lol
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Three assists today the sublime one being for Kyle Hursts goal where he played a thirty yard pass out to Kyle in the left hand channel with the outside of his right foot.
Highlights on sky now.
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I liked what Faal did for us but I think that Adelakun adds much more than him.
He is more direct and physically more powerful.
He sometimes messes up by trying things and losing the ball but with him and Moly we have two players now who can make defenders uncertain about which way they are going.
The thing is hound if he didn’t sometimes mess up and lose the ball then he wouldn’t be playing for us in league 2. But I agree gives us another threat on the otherside rather than it being all on moly to create something for us
KK, yes I agree that he wouldn’t be with us if he didn’t mess up now and then.
I guess all league two players do so.
The fact that he does it when trying to do something outlandish when going forward isn’t a problem in my eyes.
He is very exciting to watch.
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Good thing about him is that GM knows him, and looks like he can get a tune out of a player who others have maybe misunderstood?
If he can play at this level consistently we will have trouble getting anywhere near him next season, unfortunately.
Lets hope the buy in from our management towards him can keep him going, for us.
With the squad size gm has, he could easily lose two or three to make room for wages for HA.
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
100% agree. Him & the keeper have made a big difference.
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If he continues this form then surely we would be looking to sign him in the summer.
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Good thing about him is that GM knows him, and looks like he can get a tune out of a player who others have maybe misunderstood?
If he can play at this level consistently we will have trouble getting anywhere near him next season, unfortunately.
Lets hope the buy in from our management towards him can keep him going, for us.
With the squad size gm has, he could easily lose two or three to make room for wages for HA.
Not quite as simple as that. When you start dropping top dollar on someone you raise the cap that everyone else will start asking for or getting closer to. The players we have on the higher wages at the minute Taylor/Close are on league one wages and I’d be surprised if we offered a similar amount to anyone while being in league 2
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Would he be after wages any higher than Joe Ironside’s?
Joe was a proven L1 striker dropping down a level who apparently had L1 offers in the summer.
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
100% agree. Him & the keeper have made a big difference.
I don’t want to get carried away with TLT because he wasn’t tested much yesterday, but he seems to command his box and give the defence more confidence than the other keepers we’ve got.
Seems a proper character too. I could see him becoming a bit of a cult hero if we signed him up longer-term.
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
100% agree. Him & the keeper have made a big difference.
I’d add Richard Wood to that pairing.
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
100% agree. Him & the keeper have made a big difference.
I don’t want to get carried away with TLT because he wasn’t tested much yesterday, but he seems to command his box and give the defence more confidence than the other keepers we’ve got.
Seems a proper character too. I could see him becoming a bit of a cult hero if we signed him up longer-term.
To be fair TLT hasn’t been tested much since he came in, that has be a testament to how well our defence have played recently, undefeated since he came in as well
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There was lots of pressure on Moly which probably didnt help him as he was the only wide player really. Now we have Adelakun who has been a breath of fresh air, think he takes the pressure of Moly who can relax now and play his game.
I have always rated Moly.
Biggins had a cracking game yesterday. Got into some good positions and some good touches.
The whole starting 11 were fantastic.
Pleased Hurst got his goal, good for confidence again.
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I wasn't there yesterday but I think Biggins is worth a mention also. He's been much improved coming off the bench recently, I hope he can kick on & fulfill his potential, for us.
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Adelakun has scored 2 and assisted 4 since he signed.
He would only need 9 assists to be in the top 10 highest assists in the league over the season.
Unbelievable output from 4 games
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Get Adelakun signed up now. He's a lot of the special sauce we've been missing.
100% agree. Him & the keeper have made a big difference.
I don’t want to get carried away with TLT because he wasn’t tested much yesterday, but he seems to command his box and give the defence more confidence than the other keepers we’ve got.
Seems a proper character too. I could see him becoming a bit of a cult hero if we signed him up longer-term.
To be fair TLT hasn’t been tested much since he came in, that has be a testament to how well our defence have played recently, undefeated since he came in as well
we were on about this on the way home, how many crosses came in, that woody or big tom just headed away.. go back only a few eeeks, and they were headers on target!!! the entire defensive unit has stepped up their game!!! :-)
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He’s been gradually, very impressive. He’s also played against 4 sides that are not very good.
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Fair play to Grant and the team for getting a tune out of him.
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He’s been gradually, very impressive. He’s also played against 4 sides that are not very good.
Ah yes. There’s always a sting in the tail.
He’s up against Wimbledon Saturday who before tonight’s fixtures are in eighth place. Do you think he’ll get a look in?
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He’s been gradually, very impressive. He’s also played against 4 sides that are not very good.
tranmere? Who just walloped Stockport.. Salford who just put 5 past play off chasing barrow? Hardly out of form poor sides...
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He’s been gradually, very impressive. He’s also played against 4 sides that are not very good.
Salford are 2nd in the form table.
Tranmere tonked Stockport 4-0.
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He’s been gradually, very impressive. He’s also played against 4 sides that are not very good.
Never fail to disappoint
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How can you say Tranmere and Salford are not very good.
League position is irrelevant.
Look at current form
Wimbledon are 8th in the table but their current form is not as good as Tranmere, Salford & Us.
You do put a very negative spin in so many of your posts.
Think there is a lot to be positive about right now.
Defensively which is something you have constantly highlighted we are very much improved.
That is down to Wood and Lo Tutola. If we had these 2 all season we would be top 7 right now. 100% I believe that.
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How can you say Tranmere and Salford are not very good.
League position is irrelevant.
Look at current form
Wimbledon are 8th in the table but their current form is not as good as Tranmere, Salford & Us.
You do put a very negative spin in so many of your posts.
Think there is a lot to be positive about right now.
Defensively which is something you have constantly highlighted we are very much improved.
That is down to Wood and Lo Tutola. If we had these 2 all season we would be top 7 right now. 100% I believe that.
And if we had had Adelekun, Craig and McGrath all season we would be even higher imho. it all goes to show that the poor run was largely down to injuries and that the optimism we all felt at the beginning of the season is only now being justified. We are heading in the right direction at long last.
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And if we had had Adelekun, Craig and McGrath all season we would be even higher imho
I think you need to add TLT to that list!
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I think people are going overboard slightly with the keepers, both Lawlor & Jones did ok, yes they made a few mistakes, but overall ok. Now I am not diminishing TLT’s efforts, but he made a similar “mistake” with the Salford free kick to Jones, he has also benefitted from the new defensive partnership.
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I think people are going overboard slightly with the keepers, both Lawlor & Jones did ok, yes they made a few mistakes, but overall ok. Now I am not diminishing TLT’s efforts, but he made a similar “mistake” with the Salford free kick to Jones, he has also benefitted from the new defensive partnership.
I don’t think you can underestimate how much difference Lo Tutala has made to the team.
Yes he has had Wood playing in front of him and he has also made a significant difference but this keeper is vastly superior to Jones and Lawlor.
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I think people are going overboard slightly with the keepers, both Lawlor & Jones did ok, yes they made a few mistakes, but overall ok. Now I am not diminishing TLT’s efforts, but he made a similar “mistake” with the Salford free kick to Jones, he has also benefitted from the new defensive partnership.
I don’t think you can underestimate how much difference Lo Tutala has made to the team.
Yes he has had Wood playing in front of him and he has also made a significant difference but this keeper is vastly superior to Jones and Lawlor.
I can agree with you on this ‘keeper Camps.
His decisiveness, strength and confidence take a big weight off the defender’s shoulders.
That split second hesitation of thinking “what’s the keeper doing?” can do a lot of damage.
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And if we had had Adelekun, Craig and McGrath all season we would be even higher imho
I think you need to add TLT to that list!
He was already on it in Campsall's post
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We need to offer this lad a contract asap, before others sneak in
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We need to offer this lad a contract asap, before others sneak in
Mcann made ref to him in his recent interview. I’m confident GM and co will be all over this possibility. Why wouldn’t he. The best rovers loan signing for some time.
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Any news on his injury he came off with?
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Dead leg. McCann said after game:
"Haks has just got a dead leg and these things take two or three days to settle down so I'm sure he'll be fine for next week.”
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For Adelakun & Craig read Wilkes & Kane. Shame they’re only here for 3 months not the full 8/9
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I said to my lad after the Grimsby game that herindsme of Wilkes.
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Adelakun is realistic to sign. This will lreally show the boards ambition if he goes to another league 2 club. Fair enough league 1.
Craig zero chance of signing him.
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Adelakun is realistic to sign. This will lreally show the boards ambition if he goes to another league 2 club. Fair enough league 1.
Craig zero chance of signing him.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If he signs elsewhere in league 2 it won’t necessarily be down to lack of ambition from us - if his agent/advisers think he’s better off elsewhere.
Our ambition is to try to sign players of his ability, but being realistic we won’t get them all..
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He took the goal really well didn’t he. I was speaking to someone the other day about him and they said he needs a bit of “managing”. Not necessarily in a bad way but to keep him focussed etc. Grant having worked with him before must help regarding this.
It just felt like the kind of goal we rarely score. It was quality all round, the pass, the touch and the finish.
I agree, the first thing I thought when we scored was that it was a “clean” goal. Nice pass, nice finish. Not a set piece, scramble, horror defending or anything like that.
I felt exactly the same. It was like watching another team score the goal.
I don’t think I’d realised previously that we don’t seem to score goals like that at all
Reading this back, at how we were surprised at scoring such a good goal as that one.
Ever since that game we’ve scored goals like that week in week out.
Remarkable turnaround
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16 games, 8 goals, 6 assists.
In addition he creates havoc, draws double marking and frees space for others.
What a signing.
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Just been reading a Lincoln supporter’s tweet this morning saying they should be making Haks a renewed offer of a contract, given how he’s playing for us.
There’s the irony though, he’s playing like he is because he’s with us and playing for a manager who understands him!
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
Good shout that. Taylor's a decent guy but it's time to move on.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
We wouldn’t be able to match some League 1 clubs salaries.
If either of Portsmouth, Derby, Bolton, Barnsley and maybe a couple of others Charlton being one possibly are in League 1 next season.
Fortunately 2 or 3 of those clubs maybe getting promoted.
Then we have the clubs coming down from the Championship. 2 of them we wouldn’t be able to compete with I suspect.
Any way if he is really happy at Rovers he might decide to do what’s best for his career and not his pocket.
Well we can hope.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
You’ve nailed it. He’s not on a lot.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
You’ve nailed it. He’s not on a lot.
In truth no one knows what he’s on outside of the club
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
You’ve nailed it. He’s not on a lot.
In truth no one knows what he’s on outside of the club
Well Gazlaz must have solid proof, because as he said on another thread, he never makes anything up.
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I would guess Taylor And Rowe’s salary would be pretty meaty to put towards Haks, seaman and Lavery would be a bit more too…
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Anyone know when his loan runs out?
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
You’ve nailed it. He’s not on a lot.
In truth no one knows what he’s on outside of the club
Well Gazlaz must have solid proof, because as he said on another thread, he never makes anything up.
You appear to find it impossible that anyone may know something you don’t know. What a weird trait to have.
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Anyone know when his loan runs out?
‘Rest of season’ usually means June I think? So playoffs sorted if that’s what you’re thinking.
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Haks will know from the feeling in the camp that this club (if not this season) will be playing a division higher the season after.
He has a great understanding with Joe & Moly (there’s a signature we need on a contract) is clearly enjoying his football under Grant so IF we don’t go up this season (if we do I reckon he’ll sign no question) we need to match any salary a current Lg1 might offer him. Do that & I think we have a chance of him staying a season in this division with us.
Over to the board.
If Taylor goes surely his wages will be enough to get Haks
His wages might help. I don’t think Taylor is on a much money as some think he is on.
Yes it will be decent but I honestly don’t think it is as much as many think it is.
There will I think have been a clause in their contracts if we got relegated to League 2 their wages would be reduced.
Our board run the club in a financially prudent manor don’t forget unlike many clubs I don’t need to name.
If I recall correctly, the last time Taylor's contract was renewed he was offered 2-years and he asked for three years with the money for two spread across the three years. His salary won't be nearly enough on its own.
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Confirmed by our club, Haks is available including the play offs & no permission is needed.
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Thank you Lincoln.
BobG
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Confirmed by our club, Haks is available including the play offs & no permission is needed.
the lad is desperate for a promotion!!!! He must be gagging to prove all the league one doubters wrong!!! Go haks!!!!
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18 appearances and 9 goals. Plus a hatful of assists also. It is no coincidence that him in this squad has coincided with rovers massive upturn in form . He has to remain a rovers player imo.
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All the while we have Molly on one wing and Haks on the other we will score goals galore even if it's in league one. Unfortunately it seems unlikely we will be able to retain either or both.
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All the while we have Molly on one wing and Haks on the other we will score goals galore even if it's in league one. Unfortunately it seems unlikely we will be able to retain either or both.
Maybe, but that's the players choice not ours, all we can do is offer to meet their expectations.
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At our level a 3 year deal is probably going to be worth less per week for a player than they could get on a 1 year but they must prefer the certainty.
Clubs might prefer 1 year to cover themselves for changes in manager, division, injury etc.
So Taylor on a 3 year weekly rate won’t be the same as Haks on a 1 or 2 year.
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All the while we have Molly on one wing and Haks on the other we will score goals galore even if it's in league one. Unfortunately it seems unlikely we will be able to retain either or both.
How do you come to that conclusion??
There is nothing as far as I’m aware of to stop both of them being offered decent contract whether we get promoted or not ?
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All the while we have Molly on one wing and Haks on the other we will score goals galore even if it's in league one. Unfortunately it seems unlikely we will be able to retain either or both.
How do you come to that conclusion??
There is nothing as far as I’m aware of to stop both of them being offered decent contract whether we get promoted or not ?
If Molly was dedicated to DRFC I expect he would have signed by now. Both players will have agents angling for big money deals that may be beyond our budget and who could blame them for going where the money is ?
On the other hand, as has been said elsewhere, if we are in league 1 next season our chances of keeping them will be better. The McCann factor might also persuade them. Haks reamaining with DRFC performing like he is now in League 1 could attract an even bigger offer next year. Hopefully both players can be convinced by this argument. Also I would suggest that our current squad with one or 2 additions could go straight up to the Championship.
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Adelakun's time with us has clearly been a success and Grant clearly knows how to get the best out of him. He'd be mad not to join us......wouldn't he?
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Being in League One is a significant sway in addition to money, although the two are linked. Don’t imagine anyone will savour playing in League Two for another season after the knock out three months they have been through. Let’s see.
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I don't think it would be unreasonable to suggest, even if these two were to be made offers making them the highest paid in the squad, it may not be enough.
The only thing we can do as a club, is put ourselves in the best negotiating position possible, and my god, Grant is doing that.
These group of players look like they will run through brick walls for each other and I'm sure they would dearly love to keep as many of their teammates together as possible but everyone understands players will always aspire to do the best for themselves and their families.
These two have the upper hand and will have caught the attention of several clubs without doubt.
Let's see how difficult we can make their choices.
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Not checked but my lad says Haks has scored more goals with us than he has in the last 6 (?) seasons combined
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Not checked but my lad says Haks has scored more goals with us than he has in the last 6 (?) seasons combined
He could go to a lge one club and end up warming a bench . Just like he did at Lincoln . More money perhaps. But zero job satisfaction. Footballers want to play football surely. Doing the business at rovers does not equate to doing the business elsewhere
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Couldn't agree more, normal.
He's found a club where he's valued and a manager who understands how to bring the best out of him.
It's always a difficult balancing act where money and job satisfaction are concerned, and not just in football.
But most jobs outside football don't have agents working for them trying to eke out every penny from a prospective employer.
In fairness most jobs don't come to an end as quickly as a footballer's does.
So it needs a lot of thinking about.
Personally, I think he'd be foolish to go off somewhere he might not be treated as well as he is here and end up warming the bench.
We are bound to have made him a good offer.
He should try to get as much as he can and then hopefully stick where he is.
Same applies to Mols.
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Not checked but my lad says Haks has scored more goals with us than he has in the last 6 (?) seasons combined
That's correct. In his 18 games with us he has scored 9 goals. From 2018 until joining us he played 95 games and scored 8 goals.
That period of course includes the 21 games he played for Gillingham where he scored a grand total of 0 goals. Think if nothing else he might have a point to prove on Saturday.
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Do we know when contracts started being discussed and whether the recent incredible run has brought parties back to the table for further discussion.
I guess like most of us on here performance often gets rewarded at work i.e. better, longer contracts, bonuses, pay etc.
I'm sure the Board are doing their best to secure the services of those McCann wants.
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Saw a Lincoln fan comment on a Facebook post that Haks is their highest earner?
Not sure what that figure could equate to & what our offer could be but sounds like promotion could be the key to us getting him, possibly same with Molyneux now.
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He IS their biggest earner. FACT.
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How does their budget compare to ours, Lincoln?
Granted they're in a division above but surely they're not that much more massive than we are?
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Saw a Lincoln fan comment on a Facebook post that Haks is their highest earner?
Not sure what that figure could equate to & what our offer could be but sounds like promotion could be the key to us getting him, possibly same with Molyneux now.
I've heard 4k and 5k a week mentioned from several people
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Saw a Lincoln fan comment on a Facebook post that Haks is their highest earner?
Not sure what that figure could equate to & what our offer could be but sounds like promotion could be the key to us getting him, possibly same with Molyneux now.
I've heard 4k and 5k a week mentioned from several people
He'd get 3 with us surely, & a big old smile on his fizzog.
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Saw a Lincoln fan comment on a Facebook post that Haks is their highest earner?
Not sure what that figure could equate to & what our offer could be but sounds like promotion could be the key to us getting him, possibly same with Molyneux now.
I've heard 4k and 5k a week mentioned from several people
Christ don’t do the job of his agent, you’re not getting paid for bigging up rumours of his salary
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Do we know when contracts started being discussed and whether the recent incredible run has brought parties back to the table for further discussion.
I guess like most of us on here performance often gets rewarded at work i.e. better, longer contracts, bonuses, pay etc.
I'm sure the Board are doing their best to secure the services of those McCann wants.
I don't know any facts, only going on what McCann has said in interviews when asked about contracts. Said a couple still not sorted after offers made and will take a little longer.
I guess, those will be on hold until we know exactly where we're going to be next season. There was some speculation suggesting Moly was 'close' to agreeing new terns but nothing said by McCann to confirm or deny.
Haks said he just wants to concentrate on football for now which is entirely understandable.
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It would be an expensive signing. Let’s say for arguments sake he’d want 4K per week and a 2 year deal. Thats the broad end of 500k.
Not eye watering, buts it’s probably quite a bit more than we’ve paid for a while
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Saw a Lincoln fan comment on a Facebook post that Haks is their highest earner?
Not sure what that figure could equate to & what our offer could be but sounds like promotion could be the key to us getting him, possibly same with Molyneux now.
I've heard 4k and 5k a week mentioned from several people
He'd get 3 with us surely, & a big old smile on his fizzog.
Not in L2 he wouldn’t. Maybe L1.
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It would be an expensive signing. Let’s say for arguments sake he’d want 4K per week and a 2 year deal. Thats the broad end of 500k.
Not eye watering, buts it’s probably quite a bit more than we’ve paid for a while
The tough thing about that is then other players saying they want similar as they believe their not £2k a week worse than him. We’ve got to stick to the structure in place, it’s upto Haks if he’s happy with that or not.
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I guess you could always make up for it to a degree with signing fee, add-ons etc. And write an NDA on salary into the contract.
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Average weekly wage in League One is around £3.5k.
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Average weekly wage in League One is around £3.5k.
Don’t forget the ave goes up massively when you have clubs like Derby County in it
Bolton and Pompey won’t be paying peanuts either.
Next season IF we are in league 1 ( capital IF ) there could be Derby or Bolton, Sheff Wed, Huddersfield., Birmingham all paying wages way above the ave.
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Rovers style of play, of attack, has been adapted to suit Adelukan, with the long balls out of defence. Credit is due to McCann for this. Whether Adelukan would be as effective without it would be key to his maximum value in any other team. And of course at a higher level the opposition might not find it as difficult to deal with.
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Average weekly wage in League One is around £3.5k.
Don’t forget the ave goes up massively when you have clubs like Derby County in it
Bolton and Pompey won’t be paying peanuts either.
Next season IF we are in league 1 ( capital IF ) there could be Derby or Bolton, Sheff Wed, Huddersfield., Birmingham all paying wages way above the ave.
You have correctly identified how an average is calculated.
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I assume the club would make an offer based on this season’s league status with an increase if we get promoted .It would be a reason players withhold their decision until that is known Beyond that Grant has said he will fix a deadline upon which the offers will be withdrawn to avoid getting into a situation whereby agents use our offer as a bargaining chip with other clubs .
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Ever since I witnessed Paul Green’s delight at beating Leeds at Wembley only to read he was going to Derby two days later I keep my feet on the ground .Players may love a club but be lured away by greener grass .
Grant knows all this and will have experienced all sorts of ups and downs at contract renewal time as with all players who are out of contract at the end of a season .
The Italians used to oblige clubs to settle all transfer business on one single day .The reps would all meet at a hotel and the transfer of all Série A players was determined between them that day .
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Ever since I witnessed Paul Green’s delight at beating Leeds at Wembley only to read he was going to Derby two days later I keep my feet on the ground .Players may love a club but be lured away by greener grass .
Maybe there is no Adelakuner grass Brian? :lol:
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Maybe there is no Adelakuner grass Brian
Yes there is Dutch ..they smoke it in Holland .
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Ever since I witnessed Paul Green’s delight at beating Leeds at Wembley only to read he was going to Derby two days later I keep my feet on the ground .Players may love a club but be lured away by greener grass .
Grant knows all this and will have experienced all sorts of ups and downs at contract renewal time as with all players who are out of contract at the end of a season .
The Italians used to oblige clubs to settle all transfer business on one single day .The reps would all meet at a hotel and the transfer of all Série A players was determined between them that day .
I remember being absolutely gobsmacked by this at the time.
I now know not to take anything for granted and realise there is generally no loyalty in football.
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I spoke to Haks today for a good hour about how he's enjoying playing and what he thinks has changed from his time at Lincoln, his words where he is enjoying his football again, he has got freedom on the pitch and he feels wanted here. I did ask if he is staying next season and he answered imo honestly and said he doesn't know, he will get to the end of the season and switch off from football and have a mental break from it all which is fair enough, I also asked if it would matter if we were in league 1 or 2 and he said no it wouldn't. He was a lovely bloke to talk to and said the whole team are looking forward to Saturday, they will be going for the 3 points and the whole team is thrilled we have sold out the away end and are looking forward to giving the fans another great performance.