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That Josh Umerah that came on for Pool late on in the game looks like a savvy acquisition for them. The Forward joined on a two-year deal from Wealdstone FC for an undisclosed fee. A product of the Charlton Athletic academy, Umerah enjoyed loan spells at Kilmarnock, Wycombe, and Boreham Wood before joining Ebbsfleet on a permanent deal in 2019.After a short spell at Torquay, the forward joined Wealdstone in 2021 and scored 17 goals in all competitions last season.Scored 10 for pool so far this season.People think dipping into non league is a non option for clubs like rovers. I fail to see why. This player being an example in case.
Quote from: normal rules on February 05, 2023, 07:25:43 pmThat Josh Umerah that came on for Pool late on in the game looks like a savvy acquisition for them. The Forward joined on a two-year deal from Wealdstone FC for an undisclosed fee. A product of the Charlton Athletic academy, Umerah enjoyed loan spells at Kilmarnock, Wycombe, and Boreham Wood before joining Ebbsfleet on a permanent deal in 2019.After a short spell at Torquay, the forward joined Wealdstone in 2021 and scored 17 goals in all competitions last season.Scored 10 for pool so far this season.People think dipping into non league is a non option for clubs like rovers. I fail to see why. This player being an example in case.I’ve been of this frame of mind for a few years now. I have no idea why we are not doing this. This is the way to be sustainable. It only takes getting lucky once and you can sell for a lot of money. What did Alfie may cost us? £20 and a bag of balls? Don’t get me wrong they won’t all work but I’d rather us try this way than what we are doing now.
Quote from: Pside on February 05, 2023, 07:48:48 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 05, 2023, 07:25:43 pmThat Josh Umerah that came on for Pool late on in the game looks like a savvy acquisition for them. The Forward joined on a two-year deal from Wealdstone FC for an undisclosed fee. A product of the Charlton Athletic academy, Umerah enjoyed loan spells at Kilmarnock, Wycombe, and Boreham Wood before joining Ebbsfleet on a permanent deal in 2019.After a short spell at Torquay, the forward joined Wealdstone in 2021 and scored 17 goals in all competitions last season.Scored 10 for pool so far this season.People think dipping into non league is a non option for clubs like rovers. I fail to see why. This player being an example in case.I’ve been of this frame of mind for a few years now. I have no idea why we are not doing this. This is the way to be sustainable. It only takes getting lucky once and you can sell for a lot of money. What did Alfie may cost us? £20 and a bag of balls? Don’t get me wrong they won’t all work but I’d rather us try this way than what we are doing now.10 current members of the Stevenage squad cut their teeth at non league level .Some below the National League , in fact quite a few .
Quote from: tyke1962 on February 05, 2023, 08:54:42 pmQuote from: Pside on February 05, 2023, 07:48:48 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 05, 2023, 07:25:43 pmThat Josh Umerah that came on for Pool late on in the game looks like a savvy acquisition for them. The Forward joined on a two-year deal from Wealdstone FC for an undisclosed fee. A product of the Charlton Athletic academy, Umerah enjoyed loan spells at Kilmarnock, Wycombe, and Boreham Wood before joining Ebbsfleet on a permanent deal in 2019.After a short spell at Torquay, the forward joined Wealdstone in 2021 and scored 17 goals in all competitions last season.Scored 10 for pool so far this season.People think dipping into non league is a non option for clubs like rovers. I fail to see why. This player being an example in case.I’ve been of this frame of mind for a few years now. I have no idea why we are not doing this. This is the way to be sustainable. It only takes getting lucky once and you can sell for a lot of money. What did Alfie may cost us? £20 and a bag of balls? Don’t get me wrong they won’t all work but I’d rather us try this way than what we are doing now.10 current members of the Stevenage squad cut their teeth at non league level .Some below the National League , in fact quite a few .Yep, they also have a manager who can motivate.
*Ahem* Lavery
We signed Molyneux who was perceived to be a great player in L2. I knew he was average, said it at the time, and he has proved to be average. I’ll say it again, we have no structure in place to identify players and we don’t have a process to consistently choose between an average one and a good one.
Quote from: GazLaz on February 07, 2023, 07:21:10 amWe signed Molyneux who was perceived to be a great player in L2. I knew he was average, said it at the time, and he has proved to be average. I’ll say it again, we have no structure in place to identify players and we don’t have a process to consistently choose between an average one and a good one.From what I’m lead to believe in what you do for work, I really wish Copps would reach out to you to use your expertise in this area.
Quote from: BigKeif on February 07, 2023, 07:52:17 amQuote from: GazLaz on February 07, 2023, 07:21:10 amWe signed Molyneux who was perceived to be a great player in L2. I knew he was average, said it at the time, and he has proved to be average. I’ll say it again, we have no structure in place to identify players and we don’t have a process to consistently choose between an average one and a good one.From what I’m lead to believe in what you do for work, I really wish Copps would reach out to you to use your expertise in this area.Already spoke to him. Lovely guy.
There are so many hidden biases and traps when it comes to identifying which players are good and which ones aren’t. People (however experienced in football) often see what they want to believe. A fairly simple principle to stick to is looking at what attributes teams from the level/ two levels above look for and try and find players that tick maybe one of those boxes and try and develop other areas. The easiest one of those to identify for a starting point is probably physicality and athleticism. How many fit, strong athletic players that will run all day do we tend to sign. Not many.
Quote from: GazLaz on February 07, 2023, 08:39:21 amThere are so many hidden biases and traps when it comes to identifying which players are good and which ones aren’t. People (however experienced in football) often see what they want to believe. A fairly simple principle to stick to is looking at what attributes teams from the level/ two levels above look for and try and find players that tick maybe one of those boxes and try and develop other areas. The easiest one of those to identify for a starting point is probably physicality and athleticism. How many fit, strong athletic players that will run all day do we tend to sign. Not many.The trap in the case of George Miller being that his career was very similar to Marquis’ before we signed him? Rather than looking at his attributes and how they would fit in to a team, there was a bias to wishfully think he will be just like Marquis was. Apart from work rate, I don’t see anything of note to be honest.
Quote from: Lesonthewest on February 05, 2023, 09:50:42 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on February 05, 2023, 08:54:42 pmQuote from: Pside on February 05, 2023, 07:48:48 pmQuote from: normal rules on February 05, 2023, 07:25:43 pmThat Josh Umerah that came on for Pool late on in the game looks like a savvy acquisition for them. The Forward joined on a two-year deal from Wealdstone FC for an undisclosed fee. A product of the Charlton Athletic academy, Umerah enjoyed loan spells at Kilmarnock, Wycombe, and Boreham Wood before joining Ebbsfleet on a permanent deal in 2019.After a short spell at Torquay, the forward joined Wealdstone in 2021 and scored 17 goals in all competitions last season.Scored 10 for pool so far this season.People think dipping into non league is a non option for clubs like rovers. I fail to see why. This player being an example in case.I’ve been of this frame of mind for a few years now. I have no idea why we are not doing this. This is the way to be sustainable. It only takes getting lucky once and you can sell for a lot of money. What did Alfie may cost us? £20 and a bag of balls? Don’t get me wrong they won’t all work but I’d rather us try this way than what we are doing now.10 current members of the Stevenage squad cut their teeth at non league level .Some below the National League , in fact quite a few .Yep, they also have a manager who can motivate.I think players only listen to Evans for so long. Once they start getting verbal abuse from him the motivational bit goes out the window. He has a limited life span at any one club because of the way he manages. It’s only ever short term success.I would never want to see him any where near being considered as our Manager.
And when he left Les the club would be in deep doo doo, he should not be allowed anywhere near a football club.