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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: GazLaz on March 26, 2017, 04:14:38 pm
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If Williams isn't 10 times the player he is I'll give up.
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First time ive seen this lad play and tbh I think he is well out of his league
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Runs around a lot, but lacks speed of thought.
He could do with a full year as a pro though before we see if he's going to have what it takes.
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The game just passed him by, the change should have been made at half time. Bring Williams in for the rest of the season, we need experience to get us over the line
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Williams has been very poor all season, terrible in fact. May was poor today, few others worse. Cops worst game for a long time, grant poor, Rowe poor, mason shite
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Williams has been very poor all season, terrible in fact. May was poor today, few others worse. Cops worst game for a long time, grant poor, Rowe poor, mason shite
I thought Grant and Rowe were ok. We played well first half and should have been ahead. They had one shot on target from a set piece.
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3 or 4 good chances missed
Blair played well,
Thought we did ok. Should've won both games against them but ended up with nowt
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Goals to chances ratio is very poor generally. I came away from Brisbane Road last weekend thinking we'll have to do a lot better next weekend on that statistic and the fact we haven't has cost us the match.
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Luke was very good when he came on I thought. Blair excellent. No need to panic, we are the best team in the league. Only Pompey anywhere near.
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I'd get Mandeville in. May could do with a decent pre-season with us but he still wouldn't be ready for League One and would probably be best to loan him out.
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I'd get Mandeville in. May could do with a decent pre-season with us but he still wouldn't be ready for League One and would probably be best to loan him out.
Just seen he's injured again. Ahhh.
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If Williams had gone as long as May has without scoring there would be uproar. Williams is more of a threat when the ball is in the box
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Really poor today and I'd have taken him off half an hour before Fergie did. Not on his own though Copps was woeful.
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Atrocious thread, yes he wasn't at the races today but sunday league? Give him a f**king chance, he isn't going to be a world beater after 2 months as a professional.
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He looked like a lost headless chicken today, I've said the same about if it was Williams missing the chances he did everyone would be going mental. May makes a nuisance of himself and creates space, but he's a striker and he needs to start chipping in with some goals, especially when he he presented with chances that seem harder to miss.
I'd start Williams on Saturday.
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Got kicked all over surprised he came out 2nd half
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He was shite today. Usually offers something even if he doesn't look like he'll score but he may as well have been stood next to me.
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May gets himself into goalscoring opportunities that Williams wouldn't, tricky ones where he's off balance. He does, and no doubt is working at his game. Today seemed poorer than I've seen him before but nothing like what's being said here.
I can't see Williams getting a goal, he's just not in the zone, like Bambi on ice. That's nothing to do with *confidence*, but something is out of sorts for him. His goal against Orient was a bit of a gift. I'd still play May ahead of him.
And yes, Gaz you should give up - crass thing to be saying and even being generous to you, respecting reasonable opinions of others, you couldn't hit a barn door if it was in your face with that one.
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Needs to get a goal or two. Probably worth sticking Williams in next week.
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Atrocious thread, yes he wasn't at the races today but sunday league? Give him a f**king chance, he isn't going to be a world beater after 2 months as a professional.
He's not a lost cause by any means, but he's not good enough at the minute.
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Atrocious thread, yes he wasn't at the races today but sunday league? Give him a f**king chance, he isn't going to be a world beater after 2 months as a professional.
He's not a lost cause by any means, but he's not good enough at the minute.
I agree, he also needs to work on his core strength, gets bullied off the ball far too easily
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I thought Williams would have started today. I would like to see how McShefferey would be playing close to JM.
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Atrocious thread, yes he wasn't at the races today but sunday league? Give him a f**king chance, he isn't going to be a world beater after 2 months as a professional.
Not at all, like many have said if that was Williams out there today playing May's game they would be too quick to jump on his back. Not good enough right now in my opinion and a waste of a body in our title push
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Our build up play is sometimes so slow that by the time our strikers have a chance of scoring there are half a dozen defenders stood on the line.
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Not a good game for Alfie today. You have to say Plymouth defended well. Marquis was kept quiet too and the header aside, never really looked like getting on the end off anything.
Perhaps we were guilty of trying to be too precise with the finish but despite the defeat, we are the best team in the league!
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Have to agree fully with you :rtid:
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May's best position is on the bench.
Decent option if it's 0-1 like today to come on and run at tiring defenders.
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"Poor", "woeful", "shite", "out of his league", "terrible all season", " headless chicken" etc...etc...
Bugger me, anyone would have thought that we'd been turned over by Wilby Carr High School 1st years 2nd XI class of 1981!! It's a disappointment for sure, but don't we think that some of this is a little bit of an overreaction?
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Talked to few who had been to Orient who said he was good. Give the lad a chance it's a very big step up for him. I'm more appalled with the back post defending and again the missed simple chances.
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"Poor", "woeful", "shite", "out of his league", "terrible all season", " headless chicken" etc...etc...
Bugger me, anyone would have thought that we'd been turned over by Wilby Carr High School 1st years 2nd XI class of 1981!! It's a disappointment for sure, but don't we think that some of this is a little bit of an overreaction?
Agreed totally. The over re-action to a defeat on this thread is appalling to put it mildly.
We played very well against the most resolute defence we have come across all season.
How many games have we failed to score. Not many. Top scorers in the league.
There are people on here that need to get a reality check. :facepalm:
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Today will be a.first for Alfie .. how to live with destructive comments.from your own fans but I am sure he is man enough
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"Poor", "woeful", "shite", "out of his league", "terrible all season", " headless chicken" etc...etc...
Bugger me, anyone would have thought that we'd been turned over by Wilby Carr High School 1st years 2nd XI class of 1981!! It's a disappointment for sure, but don't we think that some of this is a little bit of an overreaction?
Agreed totally. The over re-action to a defeat on this thread is appalling to put it mildly.
We played very well against the most resolute defence we have come across all season.
How many games have we failed to score. Not many. Top scorers in the league.
There are people on here that need to get a reality check. :facepalm:
Fans love a tryer, thats why Alfie is popular, theres no doubt theres Raw talent there, but he's not ready yet, especially at the business end of the season, I'll give him a break, but he's not what we need right now
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Today we were up against the best defence in the league.
We created numerous chances our players should have taken. Yes Alfie did not have a good game and should have taken at least one chance. John Marquis should have scored at least one of his very good chances. Tommy Rowe should have taken a chance. But James Coppinger had 3/4 very good chances and failed to score.
We have scored 76 goals so why should we complain, because in numerous games we have had clear cut chances that we have not taken. If we had we would be promoted already and even Champions.
Games like today will come hard and fast next season in league one therefore we need clinical finishers in our side.
But the games gone we should not let it effect us but clinical finishing must be improved.
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Wasn't at the game but watched on Sky, so had the benefit of replays. Alfie got himself into very good positions to score today and had 2 very good chance to score. If he had put them away, we would be singing his praises from the roof. Williams came on and didn't create a single chance if memory serves? Is Williams 10 times the player? No he isn't. Should we cut Alfie some slack? Definitely.
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Williams was only on for a short time though.
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It's been the same all season though with Williams. I rate him but this season he's been dreadful.
May gets into positions and also runs his balls off, Williams hasn't done either this season
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I agree that certain players weren't at their best today. However, despite the result we were the better team and should really have won. On another day we would have won comfortably. We should remember that it's these players who've got us into the position that we're in and one defeat doesn't make them shit all of a sudden. Thats the point I was trying to make.
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I'm not judging Alfie just on today. The fact he is so small doesn't help either. The lad can play football, he's no mug, but I'd bet anyone he's not playing league football in 3/4 years time. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, he seems a cracking lad and I'd love for him to do well. I'm just a realist though and trust what I see.
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I'm not judging Alfie just on today. The fact he is so small doesn't help either. The lad can play football, he's no mug, but I'd bet anyone he's not playing league football in 3/4 years time. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, he seems a cracking lad and I'd love for him to do well. I'm just a realist though and trust what I see.
And that's a fair point mate. In the cold light of day you may be right. Who knows.
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Just to remind you all -- Rovers had enough players out injured at the start of the season to field a St.Johns Ambulance Eleven so how far clear would Rovers have been if they hadn't fought world war 3 against that Newcastle striker.
the world and his dog knew Plymouth were dangerous from from kicks and obviously corners (we could call this the set play league as many people have said) -
i also KNEW that "towering" centre half had scored a couple of goals in one match -- since toweRing means tall (in my world) I was somewhat surprised the ease he got above the defender to score -stranely enough AT THE FAR POST see the link below- someone obviously didn't do there homework perhaps Markqis should have been told to Mark him
Nobody has mentioned the fact that May "may" have had stage fright playing in a live match on TV -i would $hit myself- hindsight is a wonderful thing
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/sonny-bradley-thrilled-to-get-another-last-gasp-winner-for-plymouth-argyle/story-30077189-detail/story.html
do Rovers have someone to collate information -- players give away when they open their mouth to the local press ??
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This slagging is crap.He runs is butt off for the team.Ok today was not his best but at Orient and Cambridge he was a handfull.
Big step up for the lad from-where he was playing.
Critism like this aint gonna do his confidence any good.
On the other sidw of the coin what did Williams offer ?
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Top scorer in the league should have buried at least 2 Cppss missed 2 good chances.
Alfie
Alfie May
A rough diamond still to sparkle
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Christ I thought we are all Rovers fans on here, its Alfie's turn today and Williams is the "hero" although he has had many stinkers. Yes he is polished compared to Alfie, but he wasn't at Hythe United or whatever a couple of months ago. Talk about quick condemnation !!!
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We were on about this today, for him its a shame were going up. He's fitted in and has agood relationship with the fans. Which is not guaranteed else where. But he's not L1! I disagree he's none league but deffo Got the makings of a good L2 striker. Would like to see him locally I.e. chezzy or Lincoln as would like to follow him.
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give the lad a bloody proper chance!!!!!!!!
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"Poor", "woeful", "shite", "out of his league", "terrible all season", " headless chicken" etc...etc...
Bugger me, anyone would have thought that we'd been turned over by Wilby Carr High School 1st years 2nd XI class of 1981!! It's a disappointment for sure, but don't we think that some of this is a little bit of an overreaction?
Agreed totally. The over re-action to a defeat on this thread is appalling to put it mildly.
We played very well against the most resolute defence we have come across all season.
How many games have we failed to score. Not many. Top scorers in the league.
There are people on here that need to get a reality check. :facepalm:
Fans love a tryer, thats why Alfie is popular, theres no doubt theres Raw talent there, but he's not ready yet, especially at the business end of the season, I'll give him a break, but he's not what we need right now
Spot on Filo.
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Some nonsense in here,
He's been a professional footballer for 12 weeks and people are saying he's not good enough after 1 poor game.
Unreal
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Some nonsense in here,
He's been a professional footballer for 12 weeks and people are saying he's not good enough after 1 poor game.
Unreal
I've seen him play more than once. Like Filo says he puts himself about, as you'd expect, but we require more than that. I think he's got worse every time I've seen him, culminating in today's display. Time to take him out of the firing line. Gary Mac playing off JM would be an option if Fergie doesn't fancy Williams.
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The biggest disappointment this season in the striker department has to be Williams. A seasoned professional who seems unable to step up and score goals when required. He might become surplus to requirements come the end of the season.
Let May have a full preseason and a complete season under his belt before judging whether he is cut out to be a striker at Rovers.
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Had a couple of our shot on goal come off, I'm not sure we would be having this conversation at all.
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Very harsh on Alfie. He's ready, he's already playing and learning. Today he was up against good defenders, who we still had scrambling and more accomplished players then Alfie could not get the ball over the line.
I'm sure there'll be more to come from Alfie when he gets a full pre-season and can prepare physically for the season ahead. Copps was 10 st wet through when he first came to us but he developed gradually, so this too small tag is a nonsense. He isn't a target man.
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Some people seem to think he's being judged, thats not the case, most people acknowledge that he has raw talent. I just think now at the business end of the season he is not what is required, these high pressure games are maybe a bit too much for him this early in his profesional career, put him on the bench and either start Williams or McSheffrey. Alfie has time on his side to develop and make a name for himself, the best thing he can do during the close season his hit the gym and gain some upper body strength so that he doesn't get muscled of the ball as much as he is at the moment
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Imho it wasn't a game for strikers. Their 'tactic' was to play 10-0-0 and it's the first time we have experienced that in this league. Strange from a manager that was bemoaning the use of the same tactic by teams that go and play at their place! Awful, awful to watch and, if we'd have known, we may as well have not bothered. We don't pay good money to go watch that every week.
Our efforts at negating said tactic was generally to keep the ball, pass it sidewards and backwards most of the time. Meanwhile, their back 10 walked 3 yards to the left or right and were not stretched one bit. We needed someone to grasp the nettle and run with it. Trouble is, the only player we have that could possibly attempt that is playing right back!
Fergie thought his players were 'magnificent' and I agree with that, but....questions need asking about how we are going to combat these sorts of matches, as where we are heading, means we'll come across it more and more, more's the pity. Dreadful game to watch and if that's football, then it's time to pack it in.
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Imho it wasn't a game for strikers. Their 'tactic' was to play 10-0-0 and it's the first time we have experienced that in this league. Strange from a manager that was bemoaning the use of the same tactic by teams that go and play at their place! Awful, awful to watch and, if we'd have known, we may as well have not bothered. We don't pay good money to go watch that every week.
Our efforts at negating said tactic was generally to keep the ball, pass it sidewards and backwards most of the time. Meanwhile, their back 10 walked 3 yards to the left or right and were not stretched one bit. We needed someone to grasp the nettle and run with it. Trouble is, the only player we have that could possibly attempt that is playing right back!
Fergie thought his players were 'magnificent' and I agree with that, but....questions need asking about how we are going to combat these sorts of matches, as where we are heading, means we'll come across it more and more, more's the pity. Dreadful game to watch and if that's football, then it's time to pack it in.
I agree they parked the bus, but we created 4 or 5 clear cut chances that on another day go in, some excellent saves from the keeper and last ditch defending prevented it being a comfortable win for us. I'm disappointed in the result, but not worried, we will still win the league
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If players had "run with it," where would they have run to?
When a team plays with ten at the back there just isnt any space to run into.
Generally the best way through is to pass it, which is what we were trying to do.
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By running at players you suck them in and leave spaces elsewhere. But someone has to be brave enough and skilful enough to do it. I don't get this on another day thing either, yesterday was the day to do it!
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For gods sake GET OF HIS BACK, he antplayed this grade of football in his life, he has to learnthe pro game. Some say he intready yet but if we dontgive him game time he will never learn the game, give him timeand he will be a revalation, iff not what have we lost. Im just glad some of you are not managing our club.
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i must have been at a different game to a lot on here, we dominated the first half and only missed chances and good goal keeping stopped us being 3 up at half time , granted we gave away a bad goal and lost our way a bit,but the over reaction is pathetic you can`t win them all.
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Only seen him play for us in 2 games and both times I thought he had something of the headless chicken about him. From what I have seen I thought Kyle Bennet is a better player and he seems to be doing far better @ Pompey than he did with us. I guess it's to do with the way DF sets up his teams and we can hardly fault his decision making in playing May ahead of Williams. I think both Williams and May have the ability to terrify opposition defenses and are both unlucky not to have more goals under the belt. Certainly you cannot fault Alfie May for his endeavor, work rate, enthusiasm and attitude.
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I said in another thread a couple of weeks ago that Alfie needs to learn a bit more about his off-the-ball positioning and that his team-mates are helping him with that but it'll take a full pre-season to really bring him up to speed. Yesterday he was practically challenging his own man for the ball at times instead of peeling off into space to look give us an option and drag the defence out of shape. That'll come and we've been in a fortunate position which has allowed us to give him some experience at very little risk as we've been scoring so freely of late.
Yesterday wasn't such a risk-free match and I would've started Williams for his experience if not his goalscoring form. It was a bit too much too soon for Alfie.
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Yes you've all been suckered in by the headline grabbing title
fact
this lad - is a W.I.P job (work in progress )
when I saw Rovers score the second goal against Cheltenham on the highlights i was amazed May didn't go for goal himself but made a pre-planned pass ??? to marquis
judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRMqgo89JVw
the bloke hasn't had natural football ability coached out of him - like may brainwshed footballers
young fergie clearly sees something in him
When Rovers play in division 1 next season they are going to need a much bigger squad
In my world they are going down the Peterborough model scour the lower leagues -- it is hard to know how much of the success Ferguson had at Peterborough was down to Barry fry (who is in later life an unsung genius at spotting non league players and still at it )or fergie (fergie's learned a lot from him)
so wot's my point
In Saturday's Lincoln v FG game Lincoln had an on loan striker from Peterborough called Angel (Peterb recalled him earlier in the season as they needed him as cover)-- he's the one who put his elbow in the FG's defender throat and polaxed him before scoring the equaliser
then guess what Lincoln brought on another sub a forward and believe it or not he was on loan from no other club than yes you've guessed it peterborough
so you can see what size squad will be needed next season
and maybe May IN ONE YEARS TIME will be loaned out together with the other Alfie to top non league clubs at the top of their league
so give the bloke a chance it's too early to crucify him (at least wait til Easter !!)
i just want to mention one of the most hopeless footballers i ever saw playing in Europe apart from his heading ability - his foot skills were on a par with stevie wonder
his name was John Carew he was playing for Rosenborg in Norway when they were a good team
This was in 2000-01 and you have to admit he must have been bad for me to remember him !!!
valencia to my amazement signed him and taught him how to play football -- which begs the question can anyone with no ability be taught football
- jusain bolt has the right credentials to make a footballer - think about one -
someone is telling a lot of porkies about him John Carew on wikipedia
the bloke was good in the air and to repeat hopeless on the ground
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Carew
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when I saw Rovers score the second goal against Cheltenham on the highlights i was amazed May didn't go for goal himself but made a pre-planned pass ??? to marquis
judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRMqgo89JVw
May doesn't make a pass there, the defender gets a toe on it and it goes to Marquis.
But yes, he does need some time, so I wouldn't write him off just yet.
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when I saw Rovers score the second goal against Cheltenham on the highlights i was amazed May didn't go for goal himself but made a pre-planned pass ??? to marquis
judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRMqgo89JVw
May doesn't make a pass there, the defender gets a toe on it and it goes to Marquis.
But yes, he does need some time, so I wouldn't write him off just yet.
I thought it was an amazing pass, and good of him not to be greedy. Then I saw it was the defender with the inch perfect pass.
May isn't the finished article and he shouldn't be judged as the finished article.
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Another thing about May is that he's slow. He's not bad over a few yards but any further and he's not quick. Those little legs I guess.
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I agree it was a "bad day at the office" for Alfie amongst others yesterday and perhaps he may be seen at his best coming off the bench and using his pace against tiring defenders. The problem is whats the alternative?
Williams was shocking again when he came on yesterday (dont understand whats happened to him) and Gary Mac isnt fit enough yet. I am surprised Fergie didnt give him a bit longer though.
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Alphie is getting into the right positions. He is creating scoring chances. A defender will hate battling him and Maquis.
That said, he needs to start putting them away. The longer he doesn't, the worse it will feel.
This is Alpie's second chance at being a footballer, he is clearing enjoying it. Most don't get second chances, none get third. So he needs to step up, learn and deliver.
A good preseason will help, but L1 defenders are better than L2
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Let's be fair here, it wasn't Alfie who missed the gilt edged chances yesterday, that honour went to Copps. However, no-one seems to be crucifying him.
Give the lad time, he'll come good.
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He has played 9 professional games in the football league. Give the boy a chance..
Its almost as if people want our players to fail sometimes.
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This thread is a great example of what this place (and our fanbase) can be like when things aren't going well. We have to find someone to blame immediately, and nitpick at so many things.
That was our third defeat in what, 25 games? May has worked his socks off since day one, has plenty of ability and gets into good positions. He needs to learn to be a bit more savvy in league football but that will only come with experience, and he needs to improve his finishing. But I thought he got into some great positions yesterday, positions Williams certainly wasn't getting into, and he deserves a break from the fans.
The whole team has surely earned a decent leeway if they have a bad game, considering how well they've done throughout this season.
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This thread is a great example of what this place (and our fanbase) can be like when things aren't going well. We have to find someone to blame immediately, and nitpick at so many things.
That was our third defeat in what, 25 games? May has worked his socks off since day one, has plenty of ability and gets into good positions. He needs to learn to be a bit more savvy in league football but that will only come with experience, and he needs to improve his finishing. But I thought he got into some great positions yesterday, positions Williams certainly wasn't getting into, and he deserves a break from the fans.
The whole team has surely earned a decent leeway if they have a bad game, considering how well they've done throughout this season.
I think the thread has been very fair. General consensus is that he's a work in progress and probably time to take him out of the firing line. The title of the thread may have made people's minds up but we did sign him from a Sunday league side.
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Well, we didn't...
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This thread is a great example of what this place (and our fanbase) can be like when things aren't going well. We have to find someone to blame immediately, and nitpick at so many things.
That was our third defeat in what, 25 games? May has worked his socks off since day one, has plenty of ability and gets into good positions. He needs to learn to be a bit more savvy in league football but that will only come with experience, and he needs to improve his finishing. But I thought he got into some great positions yesterday, positions Williams certainly wasn't getting into, and he deserves a break from the fans.
The whole team has surely earned a decent leeway if they have a bad game, considering how well they've done throughout this season.
I think the thread has been very fair. General consensus is that he's a work in progress and probably time to take him out of the firing line. The title of the thread may have made people's minds up but we did sign him from a Sunday league side.
I'm largely referring to the "sunday league" tag which is inaccurate and unfair and assertions that he's "not good enough" or too slow, which I also totally disagree with.
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As we're just a pub team having a laugh, Sunday League May is very much one of our own.
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Well, we didn't...
He was playing at the same level as Goole and Well, we didn't...
Don't you start nibbling.
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He has played 9 professional games in the football league. Give the boy a chance..
Its almost as if people want our players to fail sometimes.
My sentiments entirely.
We seem, no not seem, DO have some fans who at the slightest chance to criticise, jump on a player after a defeat.
Alfie May was playing in the 8th tier of football just a few weeks ago. He is now playing at the 4th tier.
That is a big jump particularly as he has not had the benefit of a pre season to help him adjust to the considerable step up.
Fergie has bought him fo his considerable potential. He is as someone already said 'Work in progress'
He is only in the starting line up due to Williams struggling to find the net and Mandeville being injured.
Yes I agree yesterday was probably one game too many for Alfie and I would now
put him on the bench now and use him as an impact player.
BUT TO CRUCIFY HIM is an utter DISGRACE as he is working is socks off and giving everything to the cause.
I think this lad will surprise a few on here over the next couple of seasons.
GIVE THE LAD A BREAK hero to villain in 4 weeks.
I can't believe what I am reading on here sometimes. :crying: :headbang:
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He has played 9 professional games in the football league. Give the boy a chance..
Its almost as if people want our players to fail sometimes.
My sentiments entirely.
We seem, no not seem, DO have some fans who at the slightest chance to criticise, jump on a player after a defeat.
Alfie May was playing in the 8th tier of football just a few weeks ago. He is now playing at the 4th tier.
That is a big jump particularly as he has not had the benefit of a pre season to help him adjust to the considerable step up.
Fergie has bought him fo his considerable potential. He is as someone already said 'Work in progress'
He is only in the starting line up due to Williams struggling to find the net and Mandeville being injured.
Yes I agree yesterday was probably one game too many for Alfie and I would now
put him on the bench now and use him as an impact player.
BUT TO CRUCIFY HIM is an utter DISGRACE as he is working is socks off and giving everything to the cause.
I think this lad will surprise a few on here over the next couple of seasons.
GIVE THE LAD A BREAK hero to villain in 4 weeks.
I can't believe what I am reading on here sometimes. :crying: :headbang:
You said in that post what most have been saying, where has anyone crucified him?
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He has played 9 professional games in the football league. Give the boy a chance..
Its almost as if people want our players to fail sometimes.
My sentiments entirely.
We seem, no not seem, DO have some fans who at the slightest chance to criticise, jump on a player after a defeat.
Alfie May was playing in the 8th tier of football just a few weeks ago. He is now playing at the 4th tier.
That is a big jump particularly as he has not had the benefit of a pre season to help him adjust to the considerable step up.
Fergie has bought him fo his considerable potential. He is as someone already said 'Work in progress'
He is only in the starting line up due to Williams struggling to find the net and Mandeville being injured.
Yes I agree yesterday was probably one game too many for Alfie and I would now
put him on the bench now and use him as an impact player.
BUT TO CRUCIFY HIM is an utter DISGRACE as he is working is socks off and giving everything to the cause.
I think this lad will surprise a few on here over the next couple of seasons.
GIVE THE LAD A BREAK hero to villain in 4 weeks.
I can't believe what I am reading on here sometimes. :crying: :headbang:
You said in that post what most have been saying, where has anyone crucified him?
Well the title of the thread for a start. SUNDAY LEAGUE MAY.
Several posts on this thread have said he just simply isn't good enough.
After the first few games he played most were saying he was a breath of fresh air. Now all of a sudden he is not up to it. Yes DF has over played him, I agree on that.
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I was surprised Alfie played from the start on Sunday. I expected Williams to start the game and I think he will now on Saturday. A defeat usually forces a rethink, so expect a couple of changes.
I thought McSheffrey should have been on a lot earlier. I wonder if he is ready to start and maybe play an hour?
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The good thing is that we do have other options for a starting place.
Too often in the past we have had a first eleven and not much more really.
A tough job on selection for DF this week.
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The only other option, presently, is Williams and he's not setting the World alight, is he? What other options have you in mind?
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I was referring to the side in general Alan, not just up front.
However, he has Williams or McSheff as up front options right now.
Williams has not been able to get a start due to Alfie having the shirt and McSheff battling back after his injury gives both of them enough reason to bust a gut for their places.
I also think it would be good to give Alfie a break right now.
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If Williams isn't 10 times the player he is I'll give up.
What will you give up ? Exaggerating!!!
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The only other option, presently, is Williams and he's not setting the World alight, is he? What other options have you in mind?
Williams is the only like for like swap, yes, but he could bring in McSheffrey to play off Marquis, or alternatively could play Marquis up front alone and bring Blair forward/Middleton in and push Rowe further forward. Plenty of options really.
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If Williams isn't 10 times the player he is I'll give up.
What will you give up ? Exaggerating!!!
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he was talking in binary language I'm sure he meant twice as good ! :crying: :headbang:
a lot of players have come from "rubbish" I thought one in particular only played for peglers but I just found out he was only good enough for their RESERVE team before scunny scout spotted him
and remember keshi he had 2 years at Barton Rovers --don't ask me what level they were at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keshi_Anderson
by the way I expect him back next season not a Sam type player
get the sp on him here
http://www.cpfc.co.uk//news/article/2016-17/a-look-at-how-the-eagles-out-on-loan-fared-in-the-games-last-weekend.-3624785.aspx
Not Sent from a zx spectrum using a sense of humour
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Possibly 2 changes at least for Saturday, Grant and Alcock haven't trained this week. DF says if they don't train Thursday he has a decision to make. My thoughts Mason to left back, Mc Cullough into def mid Mcsheffrey in. Copps and Rowe wide McSheffrey behind front 2 whoever accompanies Marquis. JMHO
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I agree with that raven, i would play Williams instead of May at Grimsby.
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If Marquis and Williams pull their back line about for an hour Alfie might be able to stretch their tired legs.
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when I saw Rovers score the second goal against Cheltenham on the highlights i was amazed May didn't go for goal himself but made a pre-planned pass ??? to marquis
judge for yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRMqgo89JVw
May doesn't make a pass there, the defender gets a toe on it and it goes to Marquis.
But yes, he does need some time, so I wouldn't write him off just yet.
Opinions and choosing perspectives... but try watching it again.
Forgetting some very neat close ball control in that run to the box, he was shaping up for a pass to Marquis which with the right touch (no reason to think it wouldn't be) was going to get to him a pace or two nearer the goal. Hell, he's even that good that he get's the other side's defence to do the job for him.
Alfie should play in the rest of the games this season unless Williams is showing he is better, and so far he most definitely isn't. I've no doubt Williams can come good, has potential, but needs to sort his shit out, something muddy is in his head. Many players go through such phases. He needs more time out of the first 11 or will get worse. At the moment Alfie is clearly the better option.
Next season Alfie will be better, easily good enough for League 1, even beyond that in a few seasons. We ideally need someone like Williams as an option, tall, fast and strong. If Williams isn't going to improve, we'll need to buy which at some point we will have to anyway - Williams is not going to be Championship level.
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I'm impressed with May and think he will be a good player for us, he just needs that bit of composure because he does something good then will take a poor touch or poor final ball. But that will only come with more experience and a proper pre season under his belt it's like he tries too hard to impress.
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Personally I would start with Williams and Marquis and bring on May when defenders are tired