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Tyke.I don't change my views because of election results.If I did that, I'd have wanted the Govt to smash the trade unions in the 1980s.So that's a daft thing to say.What I DO do is change my mind when facts change, or I come across a compelling analysis. I've heard neither from the Leave side.And the fact that you once again entirely miss the point of my last post and go off on yet another non-sequitur is just another reason why discussing stuff with you is tiresome and pointless. This will be my last response to you.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 14, 2020, 10:15:03 pmTyke.I don't change my views because of election results.If I did that, I'd have wanted the Govt to smash the trade unions in the 1980s.So that's a daft thing to say.What I DO do is change my mind when facts change, or I come across a compelling analysis. I've heard neither from the Leave side.And the fact that you once again entirely miss the point of my last post and go off on yet another non-sequitur is just another reason why discussing stuff with you is tiresome and pointless. This will be my last response to you.Billy the Thatcher government never said they were going to smash the trade unions they just did .The Labour Party , tell me if im wrong that they would respect the result of the referendum result in their manifesto , they didn't .If you want to hide from debate and not respond to my opinions then that just endorses my own feelings about the Labour Party of today .The truth of elections has you in denial .Very sad state of affairs .
DO.In which case I'll be happy to withdraw my scepticism. I remain sceptical that they will be able to keep the virus out of the country for the 12-18 months it will take to develop a virus, without huge economic costs to them and the world.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on March 14, 2020, 09:26:31 pmTyke.Your final paragraph is precisely the reason it is utterly pointless discussing with you.If you decide that no argument, no fact, no new development would ever change your mind, then discussing anything is pointless.Good luck.Billy its actually the other way around , your pro EU soundbites were rejected by the referendum and the last GE .
Tyke.Your final paragraph is precisely the reason it is utterly pointless discussing with you.If you decide that no argument, no fact, no new development would ever change your mind, then discussing anything is pointless.Good luck.
Billy Hiding from debate isn't going to unite us and topple tory government anytime soon .We have to settle this at some stage , it clearly isn't going away .On this board the problems of the current Labour Party are all clear to see even at the level we as contributors are .
Quote from: tyke1962 on March 14, 2020, 10:53:37 pmBilly Hiding from debate isn't going to unite us and topple tory government anytime soon .We have to settle this at some stage , it clearly isn't going away .On this board the problems of the current Labour Party are all clear to see even at the level we as contributors are .For f**ks same stop making this political.!!It matters not which party is in government.. I find their approach alarming.I find it very alarming to read the views of the medical advisor that outdoor social gatherings pose no extra risk, whilst ignoring the fact that people will be in very close proximity on public transport getting there and in the concourses.Also that the uk authorities seem to think they can deal with this virus a whole lot differently than the rest of the world, with no obvious reason to do so..Go figure..
Hancock is asking manufacturers to switch to ventilators if they possibly can this morning...That's for the desperately needed new ICU departments in hospitals.After three months notice, he's making a desperate plea on the eve of calamity. That is pretty f**king desperate. Appalling.
BFYP.Yes. And it also has this little Kitson doing his bit to heal the wounds. The little scrote who ran the youth wing of Vote Leave.https://mobile.twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1238853683955347456
Quote from: River Don on March 15, 2020, 09:21:27 amHancock is asking manufacturers to switch to ventilators if they possibly can this morning...That's for the desperately needed new ICU departments in hospitals.After three months notice, he's making a desperate plea on the eve of calamity. That is pretty f**king desperate. Appalling.They should have got Grayling on the case. He could have bought 38 Million quids worth from a Supplier who dont have any and dont make any PRAT (him not me )
Good news and bad newsGood news when I looked a couple of hours ago there wee no cases in Doncaster but now there are 2.How many confirmed cases are in your area?Enter a postcode, English council or Scottish NHS area to find out. Wales and Northern Ireland are not currently providing localised figuresThere are 2 cases in Doncaster, out of a local population of 310,542Figures last updated 09:00 GMT, 15 Marchhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274
This doesn't look good.Reports coming from France and the Netherlands, that half of those in critical care are under 60 years old.I wonder if that might point to a mutation? Or whether it has just been unreported or what.I picked this up from Zerohedge, so you know, treat it with some scepticism anyway but quite often they are first with news.