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If you like. Thanks for taking the time to point out my error.
Thanks Chris, this is where my Masterplan comes to fault. I'm not sure who we should/could/would appoint. Advertise it and see who applies. There would be plenty of time to take careful consideraton and appoint the right person who could work with what we have and identify players that would improve us. I'll take brains over brawn and get back to playing football.I'm concerned that Saunders isn't going to come good as really there has been no sign. He also appears to have burnt his bridges with a lot of the players. Who knows.
Beye has been a very good player for us. I appreciate he's made some howlers, but that's been weighed off by his overall quality performances, his work ethic and his attitude. Now if we can just move him to Doncaster and make him leave France and accept 2-4k per week in L1.On what I've seen thus far you can ditto Robert as same write up above (apart from the Howlers bit)
i think alot of rethinking is in order. we do need to keep hold of some players though, Bennett is a MUST!!
Quote from: 5minstogo on April 15, 2012, 01:36:35 pmThanks Chris, this is where my Masterplan comes to fault. I'm not sure who we should/could/would appoint. Advertise it and see who applies. There would be plenty of time to take careful consideraton and appoint the right person who could work with what we have and identify players that would improve us. I'll take brains over brawn and get back to playing football.I'm concerned that Saunders isn't going to come good as really there has been no sign. He also appears to have burnt his bridges with a lot of the players. Who knows.I have to say that your OP would have had a lot more credibility and didn't show your true feelings if you hadn't conveniently avoided mentioning that the first two goals were scored by McKays "cronies"
Quote from: 5minstogo on April 15, 2012, 01:36:35 pmThanks Chris, this is where my Masterplan comes to fault. I'm not sure who we should/could/would appoint. Advertise it and see who applies. There would be plenty of time to take careful consideraton and appoint the right person who could work with what we have and identify players that would improve us. I'll take brains over brawn and get back to playing football.I'm concerned that Saunders isn't going to come good as really there has been no sign. He also appears to have burnt his bridges with a lot of the players. Who knows.I just don't get how people can say sack Saunders when he's got a 3 yr contract and then can't give any decent affordable replacement names.I was in favour of the WM plan as it seemed the only way to get us out of the mess we were in, but it didn't work and the reason it didn't work was more or less the same reason we played badly last season - The squad changed week in week out. This year through players coming in not all being match fit. You can't expect to win games when you can't even string a series of passes together. DS needs to be given a chance. He got the injury list down, but there was very rarely a week when we could play the same squad. He'll get the time in the summer to get his team together and they can gel and more importantly work as a team. I think only then we can judge him. There have been some brilliant games under DS but he doesn't get the credit for those, just the bad ones.
The biggest problem is that Saunders has another 2 years left on his deal, and I doubt we can afford to sack him.He could resign of course, but his talk of late has been about how he hasn't even started doing what he wants yet, so it's unlikely he's going to quit.
He hasn't started doing what he wants yet, so how about we let him do him thing and judge him on that and not on what he's been forced with.
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on April 15, 2012, 04:43:58 pmHe hasn't started doing what he wants yet, so how about we let him do him thing and judge him on that and not on what he's been forced with.Not sure I trust him to assemble a new squad,which will probably be necessary. I'm also not convinced that his agents involvement in playing a part in signings will go away, whilst Saunders is here. There is also the fact that key players who have been at the club for a long time don't appear too mpressed with him. Time will tell, but if he does stay I would love to be wrong.
Ok, I understand he's under contract. 3 years. I get it but what happens if we go another 19 games with 1 win?Do we get relegated next season, saying our hands are tied? Let's face it, a poor start to next season and Deano is gone. I say don't wait, do it now. Yes JR will have to pay him off but I say that's likely at some point anyway.I don't think we can risk giving Deano a pre-season to reassemble his squad only to find it's still not working. The time is right now and we will be a lot better proposition with prospective managers knowing they have room to bring players in (as I said before, within budget constraints)I wasn't anti-Saunders or particularly pro-SOD (this season) but I think it is plain to see, he ain't the man for the job. If I'm proved wrong I will gladly let him take a free penalty at my arse in front of the West Stand.
Quote from: 5minstogo on April 15, 2012, 09:29:13 pmOk, I understand he's under contract. 3 years. I get it but what happens if we go another 19 games with 1 win?Do we get relegated next season, saying our hands are tied? Let's face it, a poor start to next season and Deano is gone. I say don't wait, do it now. Yes JR will have to pay him off but I say that's likely at some point anyway.I don't think we can risk giving Deano a pre-season to reassemble his squad only to find it's still not working. The time is right now and we will be a lot better proposition with prospective managers knowing they have room to bring players in (as I said before, within budget constraints)I wasn't anti-Saunders or particularly pro-SOD (this season) but I think it is plain to see, he ain't the man for the job. If I'm proved wrong I will gladly let him take a free penalty at my arse in front of the West Stand.Isn't it better to take a risk for the first month or two of the season, rather than shell out hundreds of thousands of pounds of money the club doesn't have? We don't know what sort of manager Saunders is/will be without the McKay experiment. He may turn out to be pretty good.Danny Wilson was very unpopular when he was first appointed manager at Barnsley (and even more unpopular as a player the previous season). He had no managerial experience before joining Barnsley. The club stuck by him, and he got them into the Premiership within a couple of years. No Barnsley fan saw that coming.
Being unpopular is a little different to showing ability.Can you tell me where and how Mr Saunders has shown any ability in managing DRFC?
Quote from: WBDRFC on April 15, 2012, 10:01:53 pmQuote from: 5minstogo on April 15, 2012, 09:29:13 pmOk, I understand he's under contract. 3 years. I get it but what happens if we go another 19 games with 1 win?Do we get relegated next season, saying our hands are tied? Let's face it, a poor start to next season and Deano is gone. I say don't wait, do it now. Yes JR will have to pay him off but I say that's likely at some point anyway.I don't think we can risk giving Deano a pre-season to reassemble his squad only to find it's still not working. The time is right now and we will be a lot better proposition with prospective managers knowing they have room to bring players in (as I said before, within budget constraints)I wasn't anti-Saunders or particularly pro-SOD (this season) but I think it is plain to see, he ain't the man for the job. If I'm proved wrong I will gladly let him take a free penalty at my arse in front of the West Stand.Isn't it better to take a risk for the first month or two of the season, rather than shell out hundreds of thousands of pounds of money the club doesn't have? We don't know what sort of manager Saunders is/will be without the McKay experiment. He may turn out to be pretty good.Danny Wilson was very unpopular when he was first appointed manager at Barnsley (and even more unpopular as a player the previous season). He had no managerial experience before joining Barnsley. The club stuck by him, and he got them into the Premiership within a couple of years. No Barnsley fan saw that coming.I think Saunders has had his chance. Sadly with probably the most talented squad we will ever have access to. 1 win in 19 is awful with the quality we have had (regardless of the circumstances)