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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on June 01, 2018, 06:53:39 pm
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It’s only just dawned on me how high the average attendances are likely to be next season.
I’d guess that the following will all average 10,000 or more next year.
Sunderland
Bradford
Portsmouth
Charlton
Plymouth
Coventry
Barnsley
I think only once in the past half century have there been 7 10k+ clubs in this division (2009/10 - Leeds, Norwich, Southampton, Huddersfield, Charlton, Millwall, MK Dons).
Going to be a tough one, next season.
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You sound like a Wendy or Blade. Since when does having a big crowd make you a better team?
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It’s the quality that counts not the quantity!
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As long it's over what the board need or want it to be then I don't really care
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You sound like a Wendy or Blade. Since when does having a big crowd make you a better team?
It does automatically but it’s obtuse to think that it doesn’t help.
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The price Bradford City fans pay for season tickets means the value is about 50% of what the gate would generate.
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Agree with them teams Billy, but Bradford were pretty poor this season, and their season ticket sales are way down on this time last year.
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The rumour in Bradford is that they are 5,000 down on last year.
They have no manager and Greg Abbot is signing players that the new manager whoever that is will have to work with. Plus the owners deciding or helping on team selection.
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I’ve been away over the half-term holiday and am embarrassed to admit I didn’t know Coventry had won the L2 play-off final.
As you say BST, some big games to look forward to next season, despite Rotherham’s promotion.
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Accrington will be a balancing factor.
Luton will come close to the 10k, shame about their ground capacity 10,356.
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If we aim for 6.5k home fans every home game next year I'd be happy.
The more bigger teams we have in the division more chance we have of filling the ground & more revenue. All the teams stated above are bound to bring a few.
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I may be wrong but didn't we average around 8000 this last season?; and that was for a season spent in the bottom half of the table; surely we'll improve on that if we're pushing for the play-off spots next season.
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
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http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=266140.msg777564#msg777564
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
Two words - Shrewsbury Town.
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
Two words - Shrewsbury Town.
1 word for 2018-19 - relegation
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On the left is the final league position.
Average attendance is on the right.
11 Bradford City 19.787
8 Portsmouth Fc 17.917
2 Blackburn Rovers 12.832
6 Charlton Athletic 11.846
7 Plymouth Argyle 10.413
23 Milton Keynes Dons 9.202
1 Wigan Athletic 9.152
13 Bristol Rovers 8.933
4 Rotherham United 8.514
15 Doncaster Rovers 8.213
16 Oxford United 7.376
10 Southend United 7.195
3 Shrewsbury Town 6.249
22 Northampton Town 5.830
9 Peterborough Utd 5.669
17 Gillingham FC 5.370
19 Walsall FC 4.760
21 Oldham Athletic 4.442
5 Scunthorpe United 4.364
18 AFC Wimbledon 4.325
12 Blackpool FC 4.178
24 Bury FC 3.931
20 Rochdale AFC 3.503
14 Fleetwood Town 3.140
overall 4.300.765 551 7.805
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On the left is the final league position.
Average attendance is on the right.
11 Bradford City 19.787
8 Portsmouth Fc 17.917
2 Blackburn Rovers 12.832
6 Charlton Athletic 11.846
7 Plymouth Argyle 10.413
23 Milton Keynes Dons 9.202
1 Wigan Athletic 9.152
13 Bristol Rovers 8.933
4 Rotherham United 8.514
15 Doncaster Rovers 8.213
16 Oxford United 7.376
10 Southend United 7.195
3 Shrewsbury Town 6.249
22 Northampton Town 5.830
9 Peterborough Utd 5.669
17 Gillingham FC 5.370
19 Walsall FC 4.760
21 Oldham Athletic 4.442
5 Scunthorpe United 4.364
18 AFC Wimbledon 4.325
12 Blackpool FC 4.178
24 Bury FC 3.931
20 Rochdale AFC 3.503
14 Fleetwood Town 3.140
overall 4.300.765 551 7.805
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Those aren't attendance figures.
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As long as we don't capitulate in the next ten years, our attendances should steadily increase due to the fact that the kids that started watching us in our glory years will be having kids of their own and bringing them along.
I think we really need to push forward with improving the match day experience, if we could be one of the pioneers of safe-standing, this would vastly improve the match-day experience in my opinion.
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On the left is the final league position.
Average attendance is on the right.
11 Bradford City 19.787
8 Portsmouth Fc 17.917
2 Blackburn Rovers 12.832
6 Charlton Athletic 11.846
7 Plymouth Argyle 10.413
23 Milton Keynes Dons 9.202
1 Wigan Athletic 9.152
13 Bristol Rovers 8.933
4 Rotherham United 8.514
15 Doncaster Rovers 8.213
16 Oxford United 7.376
10 Southend United 7.195
3 Shrewsbury Town 6.249
22 Northampton Town 5.830
9 Peterborough Utd 5.669
17 Gillingham FC 5.370
19 Walsall FC 4.760
21 Oldham Athletic 4.442
5 Scunthorpe United 4.364
18 AFC Wimbledon 4.325
12 Blackpool FC 4.178
24 Bury FC 3.931
20 Rochdale AFC 3.503
14 Fleetwood Town 3.140
overall 4.300.765 551 7.805
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Those aren't attendance figures.
Aye, we definitely had more than 8.213 people there on average last season.
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The best, and only long term way of building the gates up, is to win more matches on a regular basis.
We are probably near to our present ceiling, given our league position, but that is an enormous leap from where we were. Promotion or a good cup run may see us take the next step, I live in hope.
Our management and off the field progress bringing in revenue has also been impressive over the last few years, and is credit to the way the club is going.
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Aye, if attendances were a benchmark Sunderland would never be in League One. We would never have graced some of the bigger stadiums across the country.
Thankfully, football is played on a pitch and not on an accountants spreadsheet!
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As long as we don't capitulate in the next ten years, our attendances should steadily increase due to the fact that the kids that started watching us in our glory years will be having kids of their own and bringing them along.
I think we really need to push forward with improving the match day experience, if we could be one of the pioneers of safe-standing, this would vastly improve the match-day experience in my opinion.
We can't be one of the pioneers of Safe Standing, not under current legislation. As soon as that changes everybody, ourselves included, will be able to incorporate some standing in our stadium.
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What did Accrington Stanley average less than 2k isn’t it ? They’ll be a bit pissed five thousand makers turn up and can’t get in .
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
The reason is quite simple; we'll be in year 3 of the 5 year plan to be a sustainable Championship club; seeing as sustainability would probably take at least 2 seasons, then just do the maths; we need to go for it next season.
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
You’ve put ‘going for it’ and ‘sustainable’ in the same sentence. Not sure how that works
The reason is quite simple; we'll be in year 3 of the 5 year plan to be a sustainable Championship club; seeing as sustainability would probably take at least 2 seasons, then just do the maths; we need to go for it next season.
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I don’t know why people think we should be pushing for the playoffs next season. Look at the sides BST has mentioned at the top of this thread and it is reasonable to suggest all will have a bigger (some significantly bigger) budget than us.
It will be hard to compete
You’ve put ‘going for it’ and ‘sustainable’ in the same sentence. Not sure how that works
The reason is quite simple; we'll be in year 3 of the 5 year plan to be a sustainable Championship club; seeing as sustainability would probably take at least 2 seasons, then just do the maths; we need to go for it next season.
You're not doing the maths Colin; "going for it" means going for promotion in the 3rd year of the 5 year plan; that then leaves 2 years to achieve sustainability. If we don't go up next season, then the 5 year plan will surely be in jeopardy.
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There's two ways to read the term 'sustainable Championship club. The one that seems most obvious is in the Championship and able to sustain that level. The other is to be a financially sustainable club and reaching the Championship within five years but not necessarily able to sustain that level.
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That's the beauty of "five year plans." They can be interpreted in any way you want them to and at the end it is almost impossible to measure how successful they have been.
No wonder Governments of all stripes love them!
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I've almost forgotten what it's like to support Rovers and not have a "five year plan" to scrutinise.
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The 5 year plan is to be sustainable and be in the Championship, and then continue that status from there. So far so good. Next season needs continued building for future seasons, as does the season after. If next season we achieve a top 10 spot, or even play offs, that's all good but not necessary. The following season we should be pushing for top spots.