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We have given state aid to Japanese French and German manufacturers here for years. I would not let them remove one nut or bolt if they leave this country and would put a purchase tax on their cars and spare parts unless made in this country that would price them out of this market.
Let's have a think why Chinese car manufacturers might, in some hypothetical future world, see Britain as a suitable place to set up business.Britain would need to have some major benefits over other countries.The major costs for car manufacturers are:1) Labour costs2) Raw materials3) Shipping costs4) Tariffs.Well, we COULD offer the Chinese a low cost labour market. But I'm not sure that even the most rabid Brexiteer would admit to having an ambition that we pay our workers less than the Chinese pay theirs/ So that one's out.We have to export pretty much all raw materials into the UK these days, so there's no real benefit to setting up here on that score.Shipping. Well, now, see...we are a long way from everywhere in the world. Of aye. Except for a market of half a billion of some of the richest consumers that the world has ever seen, right on our doorstep.But... Damn! We are just about to rip up the frictionless and tariff-free trade arrangement we've had with them for the past 30 years. So if you want to make cars in the UK and sell them in Europe, all other things being equal, the sale price will be higher than it will be if you make them in Slovakia and sell them in Europe. Plus there's the ball ache of all the paperwork that will now go with it.What's that you say? America? We'll be able to strike a deal with America that means we can make China's cars in the UK and ship them to America without paying tariffs. Well, we MIGHT be able to. If America agrees. But then of course, you have to pay to ship them 3,500 miles over the ocean. So why not just make them in America? Or maybe Mexico, where they have much cheaper labour costs and already have trade arrangement with the USA?So remind me. Why exactly would the Chinese build their cars here?
I would have thought that when being threatened with France, Spain Holland and Denmark threatening to ignore international fishing limits, and France stopping energy supplies which would be under contract you would be within your rights to do anything you want and deal with anyone you want. There again you might want the EU to smack our arse without a wimper, but it won't work like that buddy, and my experience of life is if somebody will not supply you with a product others from somewhere else will do to make a buck, and there is not a lot of anything made in the EU we will be unable to get from other countries who will be more than happy to shove them aside without the jumping through hoops we have to do now.
We have had those figures put in front of us for the last twelve months Syd, what were the figures before we joined the EU?
Get some purchase tax slammed on them as well, make them even dearer.
I suspect Glyn it's mostly irrelevant because there won't be a no deal Brexit.
There is only one poster I can think of on this thread who has said they would be happy with no deal. Shall I go check who it is Selby?He says in a post on this very page that there isn't anything the EU provides that we can't get from somewhere else...
I thought a man of your means wouldn't be bothered about the price of anything Glyn.
It just looks like it when stood nest to you.
And I suppose you are right all the time.