Ukraine

[Sprotyrover]

Nobody on here picked up on this little lot yet?
https://www.google.com/search?q=germany+leaked+documents&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:887b6cd3,vid:eAAkVlpSUXY,st:0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKP_1Xj24RQ
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/germany-military-leak-british-troops-russia-b2507093.html

[Filo]

A Russian missile landed within 100 metres of President Zelenskyy & visiting Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis & his diplomats today in the port of Odessa, five people (non of them Greek) were killed.

What would NATO’s response have been if a Prime Minister of one of its ‘most important’ nation states had been killed?

Putin will one day blow his own head off playing ‘Russian Roulette’.

Russia killed the Polish President a few yeas ago, in a “Plane Crash”

[Colin C No.3]

A Russian missile landed within 100 metres of President Zelenskyy & visiting Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis & his diplomats today in the port of Odessa, five people (non of them Greek) were killed.

What would NATO’s response have been if a Prime Minister of one of its ‘most important’ nation states had been killed?

Putin will one day blow his own head off playing ‘Russian Roulette’.

Russia killed the Polish President a few yeas ago, in a “Plane Crash”

Not pilot error then as he attempted to land the plane at Smolensk Airport in fog with visibility down to 1600 feet?

The plane came in too low, clipped the tops of trees & was spun round crashing 600 feet before the start of the runway, as reported by crash investigators.

I love a theory but, that was definitely a Russian missile fired into the Port of Odessa at a time when President Zelenskyy was meeting a delegation of Greek officials which included the Greek Prime Minister.

That was a close call….for Putin.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The missile being spoke of was aimed at, and hit, a factory/storage unit for the sea drones. As they are UK coordinated, likely there would be some UK casualties there too.

If you walk across a busy road with a blindfold, you are asking for trouble. No nukes coming from that story.

The other side of the story is Russia being able to take out Zelensky but choosing not to. Why might that be?

It landed 100 metres from this group.

Obviously at that distance it was meant as a ‘frightener’, no more.

No UK casualties as ‘they’ surprise, surprise, were all in the UK.

Didn’t understand the bit about blindfold’s, road crossing & nuclear weapons. I know one about a chicken crossing the road if you want to hear it.

The missile was aimed at, and hit, the sea drones facility - at least according to the well known Krembot "The Times"
https://youtu.be/i1bUXOXV2P8?si=KF4iT1lv9guejCKF

Widely reported there were a few strikes, all 500 metres and more away. Where are you getting your info?

[Colin C No.3]

I use many sources to gather the facts that I quote, from news gathering derivations as widespread & including Al Jazeera, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, UVB-76 (broadcasting on radio frequency 4625 kHz), The Voice of Jingjinji, The Argumenty i Fakly & The Bridlington Echo.

[Bristol Red Rover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

[Sprotyrover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

Since when did a Patriot missile cost£1biion?

[Bristol Red Rover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

Since when did a Patriot missile cost£1biion?

Missile system costs about 2.5billion to export. A missile, about 10 million. Check wiki, or ask Johnson, Sunak, or Biden. Not that any of them would know a bean from a sprout.

[Sprotyrover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

Since when did a Patriot missile cost£1biion?

Missile system costs about 2.5billion to export. A missile, about 10 million. Check wiki, or ask Johnson, Sunak, or Biden. Not that any of them would know a bean from a sprout.

So if they have been gifted, the Ukraine loses nothing the Yanks stump up $4 million per missile!
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2024/03/03/russia-hamstrung-by-aircraft-losses-in-ukraine-offensive-push/
So they have lost 200 modern combat aircraft and have 700 left also 3 out of 9 A50 early warning aircraft, the Russians have not flown any of the remaining 6 in the last week.
I’d say the Yanks will be happy with that!

[Bristol Red Rover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

Since when did a Patriot missile cost£1biion?

Missile system costs about 2.5billion to export. A missile, about 10 million. Check wiki, or ask Johnson, Sunak, or Biden. Not that any of them would know a bean from a sprout.

So if they have been gifted, the Ukraine loses nothing the Yanks stump up $4 million per missile!
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2024/03/03/russia-hamstrung-by-aircraft-losses-in-ukraine-offensive-push/
So they have lost 200 modern combat aircraft and have 700 left also 3 out of 9 A50 early warning aircraft, the Russians have not flown any of the remaining 6 in the last week.
I’d say the Yanks will be happy with that!

They might be if their math is as standout as yours.

[Sprotyrover]

The ships lost by Russia over recent months have been costly, tho much more expensive has been the ten or so air defense systems Ukraine has lost in the last few weeks, each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air defence, and no replacements.

Since when did a Patriot missile cost£1biion?

Missile system costs about 2.5billion to export. A missile, about 10 million. Check wiki, or ask Johnson, Sunak, or Biden. Not that any of them would know a bean from a sprout.

So if they have been gifted, the Ukraine loses nothing the Yanks stump up $4 million per missile!
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2024/03/03/russia-hamstrung-by-aircraft-losses-in-ukraine-offensive-push/
So they have lost 200 modern combat aircraft and have 700 left also 3 out of 9 A50 early warning aircraft, the Russians have not flown any of the remaining 6 in the last week.
I’d say the Yanks will be happy with that!

They might be if their math is as standout as yours.

You said” each Patriot over a billion, way over. Big problems ahead with hardly any air ”
And then you have the temerity to criticise my math?

[Bristol Red Rover]

How much do you see a Patriot system costing? How much per missile? And I'm not meaning one on the black market from a Ukraine "arms dealer".

[Bristol Red Rover]

More info re a Trump ruled USA stopping funding the war, this time from the Hungarian PM Viktor Orban.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68533351

[selby]

 BRR, he hopefully will stop the war, but he will put restraints on Putin to do so. His ego will want it to be about him and America.

[auckleyflyer]

A Russian missile landed within 100 metres of President Zelenskyy & visiting Greek Prime Minister Mitsotakis & his diplomats today in the port of Odessa, five people (non of them Greek) were killed.

What would NATO’s response have been if a Prime Minister of one of its ‘most important’ nation states had been killed?

Putin will one day blow his own head off playing ‘Russian Roulette’.

Russia killed the Polish President a few yeas ago, in a “Plane Crash”

Not pilot error then as he attempted to land the plane at Smolensk Airport in fog with visibility down to 1600 feet?

The plane came in too low, clipped the tops of trees & was spun round crashing 600 feet before the start of the runway, as reported by crash investigators.

I love a theory but, that was definitely a Russian missile fired into the Port of Odessa at a time when President Zelenskyy was meeting a delegation of Greek officials which included the Greek Prime Minister.

That was a close call….for Putin.

I work on ILS (instrument landing systems) Radar (secondary radar would give altitude to controllers) 1600ft is well within decision making limits on cat111 equipped airports and I assume that presidents don't fly into none cat111 aerodromes in that Vis ever?!
Pilot if still capable did not clip trees.

[BillyStubbsTears]

This man is favourite to be Leader of the Free World next year.

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1769149501359394822

[Bristol Red Rover]

This man is favourite to be Leader of the Free World next year.

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1769149501359394822

I see Zelensky's puppet is making an appearance on the Ukraine thread again.

Even more notable is the extreme irony of his post 

[Iberian Red]

Congratulations to Putin for winning a 5th term in power.

He is such a popular man with the populace of Russia.
Not many great political leaders can achieve that.

[Iberian Red]

Congratulations to Putin for winning a 5th term in power.

He is such a popular man with the populace of Russia.
Not many great political leaders can achieve that.

Franco  and Castro had a go tho

[Bristol Red Rover]

More cluster munitions fired into Belgorod by the Ukrainians today. Several civilians killed and many more injured some seriously. This on top of many many more over recent months. At least with the liberation of Avdeevka this is less likely to be happening in Donetsk than it has been over the past several years.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Congratulations to Putin for winning a 5th term in power.

He is such a popular man with the populace of Russia.
Not many great political leaders can achieve that.

Ironic that in the Ukraine "democracy" Zelensky has been continually "postponing" elections.

[Iberian Red]

Congratulations to Putin for winning a 5th term in power.

He is such a popular man with the populace of Russia.
Not many great political leaders can achieve that.

Ironic that in the Ukraine "democracy" Zelensky has been continually "postponing" elections.

Ironic that you blame ot all on the west,NATO,etc
Why not throw it all in and blame it on Corbyn and Dianne Abbot?

[scawsby steve]

So what's the scenario? Putin wins and carries on with further land grabs; Putin loses and starts World War 3; the Russian people rise up against him and replace him with someone else.

The latter seems the most favourable one for the world, but seems highly unlikely, and could lead to someone more dangerous than Putin coming to the helm; there's plenty of them there.

Not looking good for anyone at the moment.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS

The trick is to put Putin in a box by making sure any other country he wants to think about invading has NATO behind it, so he has absolutely nothing to gain by invading. That requires us and other European countries to be prepared to put serious money into re-arming, and quickly.

[Sprotyrover]

Ukraine will never recover any of its territory, this war will just go on until Western Countries stop funding Ukraine or their Army mutinies.
We launched the Somme offensive because the French army had 50 Divisions on the verge of Mutiny. How would you feel if after giving your all for 2 years at the Front you notice that there are no new recruits coming through as reinforcements!.

[SydneyRover]

Ukraine will never recover any of its territory, this war will just go on until Western Countries stop funding Ukraine or their Army mutinies.
We launched the Somme offensive because the French army had 50 Divisions on the verge of Mutiny. How would you feel if after giving your all for 2 years at the Front you notice that there are no new recruits coming through as reinforcements!.

sounds very trumpist, sprot

[ncRover]

SS

The trick is to put Putin in a box by making sure any other country he wants to think about invading has NATO behind it, so he has absolutely nothing to gain by invading. That requires us and other European countries to be prepared to put serious money into re-arming, and quickly.

Noooo the idea of Russian expansionism is just an evil western conspiracy psy-op and expanding NATO is just asking for WW3!! 

[TonySoprano]

SS

The trick is to put Putin in a box by making sure any other country he wants to think about invading has NATO behind it, so he has absolutely nothing to gain by invading. That requires us and other European countries to be prepared to put serious money into re-arming, and quickly.

Sounds very blood thirsty.

The best solution would be to have a sit down with him, give him donbass and crimea. End the blood shed fast initially.

Then have constant and regular dialogue with him. Eventually bringing him into the fold.

Poking the bear has gotten us nowhere.

[ncRover]

SS

The trick is to put Putin in a box by making sure any other country he wants to think about invading has NATO behind it, so he has absolutely nothing to gain by invading. That requires us and other European countries to be prepared to put serious money into re-arming, and quickly.

Sounds very blood thirsty.

The best solution would be to have a sit down with him, give him donbass and crimea. End the blood shed fast initially.

Then have constant and regular dialogue with him. Eventually bringing him into the fold.

Poking the bear has gotten us nowhere.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS

The trick is to put Putin in a box by making sure any other country he wants to think about invading has NATO behind it, so he has absolutely nothing to gain by invading. That requires us and other European countries to be prepared to put serious money into re-arming, and quickly.

Sounds very blood thirsty.

The best solution would be to have a sit down with him, give him donbass and crimea. End the blood shed fast initially.

Then have constant and regular dialogue with him. Eventually bringing him into the fold.

Poking the bear has gotten us nowhere.

Yeah cos that worked really well with the Sudetenland didn't it?

Do you know anything at all about history?