Viking Supporters Co-operative
Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: albie on February 01, 2017, 11:13:28 pm
-
Not paid the wages again;
Morecambe: League Two side fail to pay players and staff on time - BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38826534)
It looks like they are in disarray off the field......dangerous eh!
-
Wasn't it the same situation when we beat them 5-1 or was that another team?..
-
There manager has said the preparation has been the worst for any match he can remember..They haven't played for over 2 weeks,havent trained on grass and have been locked out of the 3d grass training pitch...They haven't been payed,nobody knows who owns the club at the minute..The guy who took over hasn't been seen or heard off since October..Quite unbelievable really....Being Rovers....Away win...haha
-
Teams in difficulty often raise their game. That said, I reckon we'll be well prepared for them and won't take them lightly.
-
More like Morcambe and Wise realy. Bring me sunshine, Oh and 3 points.
-
Is Wakey still there
-
Is Wakey still there
Yes, he's a regular.
-
Just having a look at the odds for the game, Wakefield 100/1 first goalscorer which suggests to me he is unlikely to start.
-
Or unlikely to score lol
-
They price up as though all players are going to start as you get your money back if they don't start and are not on the pitch at the time of the first goal.
-
Not paid the wages again;
Morecambe: League Two side fail to pay players and staff on time - BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38826534)
It looks like they are in disarray off the field......dangerous eh!
In romanian league this is something normal...some players are not paid 5-6 months
-
Or unlikely to score lol
I don't think he's ever scored in a League game. His two goals for us were in Cup matches.
-
Bad times for them, not a bad record away from home though so we will still need to be totally focussed, & I'm sure we will.
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
-
There manager has said the preparation has been the worst for any match he can remember..They haven't played for over 2 weeks,havent trained on grass and have been locked out of the 3d grass training pitch...They haven't been payed,nobody knows who owns the club at the minute..The guy who took over hasn't been seen or heard off since October..Quite unbelievable really....Being Rovers....Away win...haha
Sounds like proper banana skin for us if we don't do a professional job . You can't beat a bit of frustration to get the best out of players.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
[/quote]
Sounds like proper banana skin for us if we don't do a professional job . You can't beat a bit of frustration to get the best out of players.
If i hadnt been paid and it looks like a real possibility the club could fold, as a player i wouldnt give a flying duck about putting in a performance against us.
IMO ofcourse.
-
But you might be very interested in attracting a new employer.....?
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
Let's hope not. Partly because it would mean the result at their place would be expunged.
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
I really hope that they see the season out at least. No club should have to go through this.
From a selfish perspective, if they did go to the wall we would lose 3 points and 4 goals difference.
-
But you might be very interested in attracting a new employer.....?
That is true Dutch, but with the window closed, i cant see many scouts watching Morcambe players.
-
We are 2/5. That's a bad price against a good away side. I'll be on the draw.
-
We are 2/5. That's a bad price against a good away side. I'll be on the draw.
I think we will get a win, but that price 2/5 is a joke.
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
Surely if the ownership issues can't be sorted out Administration would be the next step? That might at least enable them to see out season.
Hope they survive. It's terribly sad when a club at any level goes out of business.
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
Let's hope not. Partly because it would mean the result at their place would be expunged.
I remember watching two games against Aldershot in 1991-92 that ultimately didn't count for anything. It cost Colin Douglas two appearances and a goal.
Although to say I saw the first one might be stretching a point. It was very foggy at Aldershot, to say the least.
-
But you might be very interested in attracting a new employer.....?
That is true Dutch, but with the window closed, i cant see many scouts watching Morcambe players.
If the club should fold (absolutely hope not) then the players presumably would be free agents, so the window would not matter.
On top of that players can be loaned to Conference and lower clubs outside of the window.
-
Thats true Dutch, its a awful situation for the club, lets hope as fellow supporters they can avoid going out of business.
-
But you might be very interested in attracting a new employer.....?
That is true Dutch, but with the window closed, i cant see many scouts watching Morcambe players.
If the club should fold (absolutely hope not) then the players presumably would be free agents, so the window would not matter.
On top of that players can be loaned to Conference and lower clubs outside of the window.
Isn't there a rule, if a player signs on a free who has had their contract terminated outside the window cant play until the next window opens?
-
Noticed today that a player can't play for 3 clubs in same season - now includes conference
-
Morcambe fans talking on their site as if the game on Saturday could be their last, very bad situation.
Let's hope not. Partly because it would mean the result at their place would be expunged.
I remember watching two games against Aldershot in 1991-92 that ultimately didn't count for anything. It cost Colin Douglas two appearances and a goal.
Although to say I saw the first one might be stretching a point. It was very foggy at Aldershot, to say the least.
On that basis, does that mean if Morecambe fold would Copps's famous 500th appearance be null and void and it would be the game after?
-
Aye.
-
Noticed today that a player can't play for 3 clubs in same season - now includes conference
I think if Morecambe did fold (again really really hope not) then all their matches this season would be null and void, so none of their players would have played a match for Morecambe this season.
-
If we beat them we could have 6 point deduction
-
Dont the pfa or fa or fl step in to try and get their fixtures fulfilled by paying players? Just something in the back of my brain from years back, probably totally wrong
-
Dont the pfa or fa or fl step in to try and get their fixtures fulfilled by paying players? Just something in the back of my brain from years back, probably totally wrong
Yes they will. I would expect the PFA to cover wages, and the EFL will be talking to Morecombe as a club. I would suggest the dialogue has been on-going for quite a while.
-
I think them folding so quickly is a bit far fetched? They are not even in administration..
-
It into quick it all. Is there happened earlier in the season i am sure
-
IF Morecambe were unable to complete their fixtures we would lose three points, but so would Exeter, Wycombe and Luton.
Carlisle would lose four points.
So, we would be no worse off against any of those and indeed, Carlisle would go a point further away from us.
However, Morecambe beat both Portsmouth and Plymouth so those two would come three points closer to us in a revised table.
-
At least it looks like they trained today. They have been locked out of some of the facilities;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38855351
Not a good situation, seems very convoluted.
-
I think them folding so quickly is a bit far fetched? They are not even in administration..
I don't think its that simple. The supporters are currently setting up a supporters trust (always the wrong time to do it when the horse has virtually bolted) and they have mentioned that they have signed a NDA with the administrators of PMG Leisure.
The owner of Morecambe, Diego Lemos, appeared to transfer ownership to PMG Leisure who he then put into administration. I think its as clear as mud at the moment.
-
I hope for the fans, the players, other staff and all families that this is resolved and at the end of the season they can move on...Then regroup and come back stronger.. Aldershot. Accrington , Darlington and some others went out but are trying their best. ie Southport, Wrexham, Barrow, Bradford P.A. STILL IN THE MIX.... Scarborough not so fortunate,, then in around 1998 there was Doncaster Rovers, so it can be done.. Good Luck to all those clubs and their respective fans.
-
Not paid the wages again;
Morecambe: League Two side fail to pay players and staff on time - BBC Sport (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38826534)
It looks like they are in disarray off the field......dangerous eh!
In romanian league this is something normal...some players are not paid 5-6 months
I can't believe nobody has commented on this six months without pay am i right in thinking in England if that happened that the player would be free to leave?. Who is the team in Romania most likely to start doing well in European competitions?. Are there any sides that have climbed from the bottom leagues and are maybe capable of playing in Europe, Devil?.
-
I have just read this. A very good read and Morcambe are not the first but here is a story about the players and who was blamed by the club involved
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38750475
-
A good read and nice to see it from the other side.
When Geoffrey Richmond left Bradford City in disarray the last piece in the jigsaw was when Ashley Ward agreed to accept 10p in the pound on his contract. £65,000 instead of £650,000. Luckily he was married to a millionairess.
-
Hope this is not the dreaded "banana skin" - similar to Scunny on Boxing Day where we as Fans turned up and just "expected" a routine win !
Sure the Manager will have the Players fired up though and the Players will not fall into the trap because if MFC are in danger of folding those Players are maybe demoralised but will realise they are individually in the "shop window" and doubtless there will be Reps from many Clubs "circling like Vultures" just in case
-
I have just read this. A very good read and Morcambe are not the first but here is a story about the players and who was blamed by the club involved
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38750475
Unlike the players at Portsmouth who refused to take wage cuts or cancel contracts when that club hit problems. The supporters trust had to factor that in when they took the club over.
-
Under Employment Law, they cannot just fold, they are duty bound (That is the FA) to keep these players in a job.. Contracts can be sorted at the end of the season but the FA are duty bound to step in and pay wages. Yes the creditors have to get their money first if the worst was to come but hopefully they are a long way off in that respect. Then we have the problem of "Is there too many teams playing Professional football in the area, there are not enough fans that is for sure, we in Yorkshire also have the same question.. Sovereignty matters not one jot in a town, Not too long ago people argued that no town (ie Doncaster as it was the town in question) should be without a football league team. Swansea and Chester were both made City's Both Clubs changed their names to City - Swansea nearly went but Crewe did, the fan base in Swansea being far greater than Crewe who can go to any one of many Premier league teams nearby. Southport did not get City status but fell through the door.
-
I have just read this. A very good read and Morcambe are not the first but here is a story about the players and who was blamed by the club involved
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38750475
Unlike the players at Portsmouth who refused to take wage cuts or cancel contracts when that club hit problems. The supporters trust had to factor that in when they took the club over.
But why should they? They had been offered silly money and were well within their rights to ask for their money they were contractually owed. The system is broken with this sort of thing because the millionaires get every penny they're owed, and it's the local businesses who lose out. Phil mac giollas book on the fall of rangers is a damning indictment of the game and illustrates this well
-
We are 2/5. That's a bad price against a good away side. I'll be on the draw.
Weighed in, weighed in.
-
I have much less sympathy for their players after that match today.. the weak ref let them get away with all sorts..
-
There manager has said the preparation has been the worst for any match he can remember..They haven't played for over 2 weeks,havent trained on grass and have been locked out of the 3d grass training pitch...They haven't been payed,nobody knows who owns the club at the minute..The guy who took over hasn't been seen or heard off since October..Quite unbelievable really....Being Rovers....Away win...haha
Sounds like proper banana skin for us if we don't do a professional job . You can't beat a bit of frustration to get the best out of players.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What did I say , it never fails when your on top form and favourites to get a hat full and you play a team struggling to score, together you get a a crowed full of expectation you shoot yourself in the foot . Too many players strolling around today and not rolling the sleeves up and doing what everyone expected of them and stuff this shower
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
There manager has said the preparation has been the worst for any match he can remember..They haven't played for over 2 weeks,havent trained on grass and have been locked out of the 3d grass training pitch...They haven't been payed,nobody knows who owns the club at the minute..The guy who took over hasn't been seen or heard off since October..Quite unbelievable really....Being Rovers....Away win...haha
Sounds like proper banana skin for us if we don't do a professional job . You can't beat a bit of frustration to get the best out of players.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What did I say , it never fails when your on top form and favourites to get a hat full and you play a team struggling to score, together you get a a crowed full of expectation you shoot yourself in the foot . Too many players strolling around today and not rolling the sleeves up and doing what everyone expected of them and stuff this shower
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes see Reply #43 ! I claim no satisfaction from that though. At last Fortress Keepmoat intact !
-
There manager has said the preparation has been the worst for any match he can remember..They haven't played for over 2 weeks,havent trained on grass and have been locked out of the 3d grass training pitch...They haven't been payed,nobody knows who owns the club at the minute..The guy who took over hasn't been seen or heard off since October..Quite unbelievable really....Being Rovers....Away win...haha
Sounds like proper banana skin for us if we don't do a professional job . You can't beat a bit of frustration to get the best out of players.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What did I say , it never fails when your on top form and favourites to get a hat full and you play a team struggling to score, together you get a a crowed full of expectation you shoot yourself in the foot . Too many players strolling around today and not rolling the sleeves up and doing what everyone expected of them and stuff this shower
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Complacency is what fergie warned about in the week. If we lower our standards against anyone, this is what can happen.
Sent from my sofa, using a long piece of string and a foam cup.