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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DollyRover on February 24, 2020, 02:10:38 pm
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I just realised we signed this lad on loan in January but haven't seen anything of him. I know he played in the development game but hadn't been involved in first team matchday as yet, was he injured when we signed him or not match fit? Any one who was at the development game have any comments on his game? Apologises if this has been discussed previously, just haven't seen anything on him at all
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He’ll be playing tonight at the Keepmoat
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From memory, he’s played in 2 u23 games and scored 2 goals.
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Reading in between the lines, he could be one we turn permanent in the summer, not sure which of the current loanees you would drop for him currently though, keep him fit in the U-23's get a good look at him then see what happens
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Not in squad tonight it looks like he played for Crystal Palace in the same U23 cup so wouldn’t be able to play in this competition.
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Any updates from tonights game?
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He is still waiting for a loan player to get injured until he can make the squad.
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You would have thought that a loan player who isn’t playing too well could be left out.
That would possibly allow one of our own players to take his place.
That in turn would let Lokilo into the match day squad.
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Any updates from tonights game?
Drew 2-2.
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You would have thought that a loan player who isn’t playing too well could be left out.
That would possibly allow one of our own players to take his place.
That in turn would let Lokilo into the match day squad.
You would have thought that’s down to the manager to make that decision.
Both with our replacement players and Lokilo.
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As far as tonight’s game is concerned, there is no-one ready for the first team!
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As far as tonight’s game is concerned, there is no-one ready for the first team!
There must be, there are supporters who believe some players are ready now without watching them.
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You would have thought that a loan player who isn’t playing too well could be left out.
That would possibly allow one of our own players to take his place.
That in turn would let Lokilo into the match day squad.
You would have thought that’s down to the manager to make that decision.
Both with our replacement players and Lokilo.
Incredible perception that Steve.
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Alan, as a team we were completely disjointed, but our keeper proved to me he is capable of being a cover for Dieng, and now looks more capable than Lawlor.
Amos did some decent things when in possession looking much more comfortable on the ball than John down the left. Our mid field were outclassed, and Baptiste looked way off it, and when Horton went off it disrupted our defence even more, as he had a half decent game in the first half.
Exeter were by far the better footballing side.
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Wasn’t Amos beaten with pace last night. He has the best left foot at the club but because of pace and defensive qualities he is not picked. Also did he not get injured last night. If picked will he get the same judgemental views.
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He can’t be part of squad until we drop another loan so he will have to wait his turn
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I struggle with this. I’m assuming his parent club allowed him to play at DRFC so he could play
If he’s not going to get games what is the point. I know we’ve got too many loanees but he’s meant to be a really good prospect and from what I’ve read on here and in FP the other loan players haven’t exactly lit the world up
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Moore says he is not match fit. He is not injured just not ready fitness wise
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There were plenty of people saying it was daft having more loan players than were allowed to play
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The only way this signing makes sense is if we are trying to get him permanently in the summer. if that's the case it'd be good to have him play first ahead of other loanees who we aren't realistically going to sign now that are playoff chances are all but over
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DM says he is ready now for the first team could have been involved at Shrewsbury but had a bug. He’s trained this week couldn’t play Monday because he was cup tied. But is ready for this weekend if selected.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/update-availability-crystal-palace-loanee-jason-lokilo-doncaster-rovers-1891511
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Brighton loaned Connolly to Luton on Jan 31st last season and he didn't even join up with Luton til April
they both knew the score ..... as does DM
Connolly impressed earlier this season in the Premiership and might make the Irish team
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47784977
so lets hope Lokilo can get a "Look in"
as mentioned on the other thread Rovers are 16/1 for the top 6 if you think he can pull up trees
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There were plenty of people saying it was daft having more loan players than were allowed to play
And they would be completely right.
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There were plenty of people saying it was daft having more loan players than were allowed to play
And they would be completely right.
Some people would say it is not the right strategy to have loan players we can’t sign at the end of the season. But without them we wouldn’t have a team. This summers going to be interesting at first team and U23 level. A lot of contracts to sort and decisions who’s worth keeping and if we dot can we afford better replacements.
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I think we can write off all the loan players. I’m assuming Sadlier is a given to move on
We could well find ourselves in a bigger mess than this year
DM and the club need to be looking now otherwise the same excuses about start if the season. Only half a squad training. Other half coming in not fit looking at development which never seems to come to fruition
The play offs have all but gone were safe so let’s try and test our developing players
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Our developing players were tested on Monday night and were completely overrun by Exeter if had not been for very good saves by Jones the score could have been embarrassing.
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This summer could be good for us assuming our manager doesn't leave again we'll have a full transfer window (proper one not January) to rebuild the squad. I just hope our head of recruitment has spent his time finding gems we can sign permanently not looking at prem reserves for loans.
I like us using the loan system but 5-6 loan players is way too many 1-2 who are very good would be better. imo having such a large chunk of the squad who know they don't need to be here next season must be detrimental.
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There’s one thing for sure, it gives us inconsistencies!
The trouble seems to be the type of loans we’re bringing in, that is, they’re all very young and quite a few, this season, have had no previous football league experience. That’s ok, if, after having had a season’s experience with us, we then go on to sign any of them, but, alas, I fear that will not be happening. So, we have to start again next season, but with the same thing repeated.
Ultimately, it doesn’t get us anywhere. We are not building, even for the longer term, with the current strategy.
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Agreed Alan, I said something similar on another thread a couple of days ago.
On top of that if we don’t go up (we won’t) then I suspect that offers will come in for players like Whiteman and Anderson and they will probably want to try themselves at Championship level and of course earn better money.
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Agreed Alan, I said something similar on another thread a couple of days ago.
On top of that if we don’t go up (we won’t) then I suspect that offers will come in for players like Whiteman and Anderson and they will probably want to try themselves at Championship level and of course earn better money.
While it's not ideal to lose those player if they do go we should get a really good fee for them which could be reinvested in several very good players (if we do our recruitment right). Imo it's better to lose contracted players like this than just see loanees go back to their club for nothing
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You mean, like the Marquis money was?
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Is it not beyond possibility that 1 or 2 loanees could turn into permanents next season?
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Which ones do you think we might get raven?
Serious question, not being funny here.
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I think Sheaf is the most likely Loan to turn into a permanent. He’s not getting into the Arsenal team and DM spoke about it being a possibility a little while ago.
Dieng - can’t see that happening. QPR rate him and I would imagine him being number 2 for them next season.
John/Ennis. Both Wolves lads and both with bright futures. The only reason I don’t think we will get them is that Championship clubs will.
Ramsey - more chance of me signing than him.
Lokilo - I think this is already agreed. Why take a loan that isn’t fit or ready to play? It’s basically March and he hasn’t kicked a ball in anger for the first team yet.
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5 has probably answered the question for me hound but would add Ennis as a possible
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Cheers for the opinions.
I will be surprised if we get more than one.
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So would I but it's not beyond the realms of possibility
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I wouldn't be surprised if Ramsey is back on loan next season. He's still very young and League One might still be the best place for him, at least for the first half of the season.
Wolves will be looking to sell Ennis and John or loan them to the Championship.
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
Don't forget they have had to play out of position quite a lot this season (although ultimately that will be good for their development). There was quite a lot of interest in John and a couple of months ago we thought we might lose him.
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I think Sheaf is the most likely Loan to turn into a permanent. He’s not getting into the Arsenal team and DM spoke about it being a possibility a little while ago.
Dieng - can’t see that happening. QPR rate him and I would imagine him being number 2 for them next season.
John/Ennis. Both Wolves lads and both with bright futures. The only reason I don’t think we will get them is that Championship clubs will.
Ramsey - more chance of me signing than him.
Lokilo - I think this is already agreed. Why take a loan that isn’t fit or ready to play? It’s basically March and he hasn’t kicked a ball in anger for the first team yet.
Agreed apart from Dieng. QPR might rate him but I strongly doubt he'd be number 1 there, and he's getting on to be a number 2, even if good enough. They extended his contract, so he has some value to them. I'm sure he'd be happier with a move to a lower Championship club and if we'd got promoted that would be us.
As it is, I'd guess it's 3 way evens between us buying him, having him on another season's loan, and him being sold/loaned to another club. How he likes being in Donny, gets on with DM will be the main factors.
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I think Sheaf is the most likely Loan to turn into a permanent. He’s not getting into the Arsenal team and DM spoke about it being a possibility a little while ago.
Dieng - can’t see that happening. QPR rate him and I would imagine him being number 2 for them next season.
John/Ennis. Both Wolves lads and both with bright futures. The only reason I don’t think we will get them is that Championship clubs will.
Ramsey - more chance of me signing than him.
Lokilo - I think this is already agreed. Why take a loan that isn’t fit or ready to play? It’s basically March and he hasn’t kicked a ball in anger for the first team yet.
Agreed apart from Dieng. QPR might rate him but I strongly doubt he'd be number 1 there, and he's getting on to be a number 2, even if good enough. They extended his contract, so he has some value to them. I'm sure he'd be happier with a move to a lower Championship club and if we'd got promoted that would be us.
As it is, I'd guess it's 3 way evens between us buying him, having him on another season's loan, and him being sold/loaned to another club. How he likes being in Donny, gets on with DM will be the main factors.
He might pick us due to our tropical weather...
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
I think John as CB might get a Championship club and not sure where I'd play Ennis in the front line but would jump at the chance to sign him. In spite of his obvious footballing skills it's his pace or lack of it that will limit the level he'll play at.
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
Agreed. John is a long way away from Championship football I feel. Ennis slightly better but still not good enough.
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I don't think John or Ennis have shone enough to be signing for Championship clubs next season, maybe if Cam had carried on at centre back for us but let's face it he can't get in our best side there so probably says it all.
I hope TRB's right & time is running out for Ramsey to do enough to make the jump up just yet, would love to see him back next season.
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Ramsey's the most exciting prospect among the loanees, IMO.
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I don’t think any of the loans will be good enough for the championship next year, there still young and plenty of time for them but apart from deing not have been outstanding yet all have been steady
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Lokilo looked very good when he came on.
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Looks like a tricky winger with a killer left foot.
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The leagues ones Zaha ;)
Anyone create anything with his song?;
We love (Tequila) Lokilo,
He makes me happy
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Looked good fast and tricky Him on one wing Taylor on the other could cause problems
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Please don’t judge Cameron John on his performances at left back as that’s not his position. As a centre back for us he has been outstanding and in my opinion is good enough to play at that level. He is going to be a very good player and think the premier league beckons for him in maybe 2/3 years.
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Looked good fast and tricky Him on one wing Taylor on the other could cause problems
Where would you play Sadlier though.
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
I think Wolves will decide in the summer,between selling them to league one/lower champ club or loaning to a championship club.Their choice is key.
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Do you think that ennis and John are championship quality on the evidence I've seen this season I would say not yet
I think Wolves will decide in the summer,between selling them to league one/lower champ club or loaning to a championship club.Their choice is key.
Totally agree. I think Wolves will be delighted with John's and Ennis' development, not because it's been easy but because it's been difficult for them. They have had to adapt and play where they're not always comfortable.
As a defender you need to appreciate and understand your fellow defenders roles and John will certainly have learned a lot this season. I'm sure Wolves would want that to be tested at the highest possible level so he very well may be offered to a Championship club next season unless Wolves don't see a future for him at Premier level.
Same with Ennis. He has achieved much and scored goals, had the disappointment of injury to contend with, played different positions and mixed it with some tough defenders. Just my opinion of course but I think the concern for his ability to make it to a higher level is his pace. He may need to adapt his game as he ages and gets stronger. He could carve out a successful future if he makes the right choices.
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Looked good fast and tricky Him on one wing Taylor on the other could cause problems
Where would you play Sadlier though.
possibly thru the middle instead of ramsey or possibly Taylor and lokilo in the later stages when defences are tiring
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I forgot to say yesterday, after the third goal I loved the way that every player, including Dieng, made sure they joined in the celebration with Lokilo.
It must have really made the lad feel part of things.
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I havent seen this posted anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zPj4az5x0