North Shropshire

[drfchound]

They would never agree on whether the title should be LabLib or LibLab.

[BVB]

Anything better than ConCon..

[SydneyRover]

''Boris Johnson ‘gone in a year’ unless he cleans up act, senior Tories warn''

Hands up those that think johnson can change?

[scawsby steve]

They would never agree on whether the title should be LabLib or LibLab.

Or even labia lips. Sorry, mate, I'm thinking about Ann Widdicombe again.

[roversdude]

SS I’m worried about what goes off in the recesses of your mind

[scawsby steve]

SS I’m worried about what goes off in the recesses of your mind

It doesn't bear thinking about.

She is a bit of a babe though.

[Bentley Bullet]

SS I’m worried about what goes off in the recesses of your mind

Don't knock SS, his taste for women politicians used to be a lot worse before his treatment. He used to have the hots for Margaret Beckett.

[tyke1962]

Sydney's quiet on a coalition with the Lib Dems .

Just saying like .

[SydneyRover]

Sydney's quiet on a coalition with the Lib Dems .

Just saying like .

Have you asked me tyke? I've been asking you for ........... just about forever to show me the path to victory led from the left and all you've put forward is erm erm wiff waff.

[tyke1962]

Sydney's quiet on a coalition with the Lib Dems .

Just saying like .

Have you asked me tyke? I've been asking you for ........... just about forever to show me the path to victory led from the left and all you've put forward is erm erm wiff waff.

Yes I've asked you Sydney it's the bottom of page two .

In your own time of course .

[SydneyRover]

I'll answer any of your questions, as soon as you answer the big one I have been asking for ages tyke, fair do's and all that ............. in your own time, you can phone a friend if you wish, I think Albie's struggling with the same question.

[tyke1962]

I'll answer any of your questions, as soon as you answer the big one I have been asking for ages tyke, fair do's and all that ............. in your own time, you can phone a friend if you wish, I think Albie's struggling with the same question.

So you aren't prepared to align with the Lib Dems to defeat the Tories then ?

[SydneyRover]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59701369 ......... ?

[tyke1962]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59701369 ......... ?

And ........... ???

[SydneyRover]

tyke I have you blocked for most of the time because you're a WUM and you waffle, so I can't be arsed, you're in no position to demand anything until you start making some sense and answering straight questions yourself.

[tyke1962]

tyke I have you blocked for most of the time because you're a WUM and you waffle, so I can't be arsed, you're in no position to demand anything until you start making some sense and answering straight questions yourself.

Bless

[scawsby steve]

If it happens, I'd love to see some on here try to justify Keith getting into bed with a party that helped the Tories implement austerity measures, and reneged on their promises on student grants.

[SydneyRover]

With no respect SS, why should anyone care what you think about politics and politicians, you can't tell the difference between them and you don't vote.

[drfchound]

I'll answer any of your questions, as soon as you answer the big one I have been asking for ages tyke, fair do's and all that ............. in your own time, you can phone a friend if you wish, I think Albie's struggling with the same question.

tyke I have you blocked for most of the time because you're a WUM and you waffle, so I can't be arsed, you're in no position to demand anything until you start making some sense and answering straight questions yourself.

SR, if you have tyke blocked most of the time, how do you know that he didn’t answer your question (whatever it was).
Just curious like. 

[tyke1962]

Well I'll take no lessons from anyone on here  apart from Billy on compromising to keep out a Tory government .

Only Billy is prepared to accept a coalition with the Dems to win a GE and he has my respect for that .

As for the rest well it seems you expect others to do the compromising whilst you do nothing of the sort which is something I've long suspected .

A coalition between Labour and the Dems is the Tories worst nightmare looking at the situation today .

A willingness to work together in the national interest is a smart play and exposes the Tories as the party of themselves massively to the electorate .

I'd even be tempted myself to tick the box on GE day if only to respect having the balls and will to do it and not necessarily any policies .

It's actually a very socialist thing to do when you think about it .

Putting the country first before your own political ambitions .

[scawsby steve]

With no respect SS, why should anyone care what you think about politics and politicians, you can't tell the difference between them and you don't vote.

Why should anyone care about the opinions of someone who left this country for a better life at the other side of the world?

[scawsby steve]

Well I'll take no lessons from anyone on here  apart from Billy on compromising to keep out a Tory government .

Only Billy is prepared to accept a coalition with the Dems to win a GE and he has my respect for that .

As for the rest well it seems you expect others to do the compromising whilst you do nothing of the sort which is something I've long suspected .

A coalition between Labour and the Dems is the Tories worst nightmare looking at the situation today .

A willingness to work together in the national interest is a smart play and exposes the Tories as the party of themselves massively to the electorate .

I'd even be tempted myself to tick the box on GE day if only to respect having the balls and will to do it and not necessarily any policies .

It's actually a very socialist thing to do when you think about it .

Putting the country first before your own political ambitions .

With the greatest respect, Tyke, BST criticised the Lib Dems for their disgusting coalition with the Tories, just as much as I did. If he supported a Labour pact with them now, it would make him a hypocrite.

The Lib Dems are not to be trusted by anyone. They're full of snake oil.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS

I criticised the LDs for that coalition because they campaigned as a party that was to the left of Labour, then supported the most right wing economic policy since the 1930s.

All coalitions require comprise. That's the way of grown up politics. But they require compromise on both sides. The LDs gave in and enabled the utter batshit Austerity programme without the Tories having to water it down at all.

That was my criticism. Not against the principle of coalition.

I know you and a few others in here really want to be able to shout "hypocrite" at me. But you'd do well to read what I actually write and see if that does make me a hypocrite. Rather than deciding that I am and ignoring what I write.

[tyke1962]

Well I'll take no lessons from anyone on here  apart from Billy on compromising to keep out a Tory government .

Only Billy is prepared to accept a coalition with the Dems to win a GE and he has my respect for that .

As for the rest well it seems you expect others to do the compromising whilst you do nothing of the sort which is something I've long suspected .

A coalition between Labour and the Dems is the Tories worst nightmare looking at the situation today .

A willingness to work together in the national interest is a smart play and exposes the Tories as the party of themselves massively to the electorate .

I'd even be tempted myself to tick the box on GE day if only to respect having the balls and will to do it and not necessarily any policies .

It's actually a very socialist thing to do when you think about it .

Putting the country first before your own political ambitions .

With the greatest respect, Tyke, BST criticised the Lib Dems for their disgusting coalition with the Tories, just as much as I did. If he supported a Labour pact with them now, it would make him a hypocrite.

The Lib Dems are not to be trusted by anyone. They're full of snake oil.

I get that Steve I really do but it was over 10 years ago when they took the pieces of silver and slithered up to the Tories and supported austerity .

My point always is Labour cannot win under their own steam , Scotland is gone forever and the electoral system is rigged and doesn't favour Labour what so ever even though they continually think it does .

Where Labour can't win the Dems can which was proven the other day and where the Dems can't win Labour can .

The bloody Germans consistently have coalition governments which hold together for the good of the country .

It's probably in reality the best outcome because we've seen in this country what happens when we return governments with massive majorities .

It's not always that great .

Too much power corrupts .

My view is that we need more cooperation than we do absolute power in the UK of today .

I'll be fecked if I'm asked to do anymore compromising mind .

Time for others to accept that and take a spoonful of their own medicine .

[scawsby steve]

SS

I criticised the LDs for that coalition because they campaigned as a party that was to the left of Labour, then supported the most right wing economic policy since the 1930s.

All coalitions require comprise. That's the way of grown up politics. But they require compromise on both sides. The LDs gave in and enabled the utter batshit Austerity programme without the Tories having to water it down at all.

That was my criticism. Not against the principle of coalition.

I know you and a few others in here really want to be able to shout "hypocrite" at me. But you'd do well to read what I actually write and see if that does make me a hypocrite. Rather than deciding that I am and ignoring what I write.

The problems here are semantics. I've not decided that you're a hypocrite, I've said it'd make you a hypocrite if you supported Labour going into coalition with them, which it obviously would, based on what you've written above.

Do you think the Lib Dems are any different, or any more principled now than they were then?

[SydneyRover]

I'll take you at your word Steve, it does look like you can't tell the difference between them, absolutely no difference between johnson and any other PM.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SS.

I'd expect any party going into coalition to think very carefully about the policies of the two groups.

The reason I despised the LDs in 2010 was that they had campaigned 100% AGAINST Austerity. Then Clegg claimed to have changed his mind after the Election.

THAT was the hypocrisy. If they'd gone into coalition but demanded that Austerity be hugely watered down, that would have been perfectly principled.

[scawsby steve]

I'll take you at your word Steve, it does look like you can't tell the difference between them, absolutely no difference between johnson and any other PM.

Oh, I can tell the difference. There'll be a lot of difference between him and Sunak.

[SydneyRover]

I'll take you at your word Steve, it does look like you can't tell the difference between them, absolutely no difference between johnson and any other PM.

Oh, I can tell the difference. There'll be a lot of difference between him and Sunak.

Good start, all is needed now is for you to get down and vote when the time comes, you can make change happen.

[scawsby steve]

I'll take you at your word Steve, it does look like you can't tell the difference between them, absolutely no difference between johnson and any other PM.

Oh, I can tell the difference. There'll be a lot of difference between him and Sunak.

Good start, all is needed now is for you to get down and vote when the time comes, you can make change happen.

If Labour change their leader I might consider it. Depending on who it is, obviously.