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Title: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 12, 2020, 09:25:51 am
   As the season goes on and games look to get harder against good sides  we seem to have hit a bit of form ourselves and have really closed the gap on the top sides, exciting times.
  Our form has been built on a defence that is growing in stature and allowing our good players in midfield to have the platform to dominate the opposition in that area, our goal keeper and central defenders just seeming to better with every game.
  All the team including the substitutes in recent games have stepped up to the plate and are starting to make significant contributions to our on field game, as Coppinger and Bingham highlighted yesterday. We have some significant players in midfield and at full back, who are showing good and consistent form, while Sadlier Taylor and Ennis have been direct and worked hard when not in possession, so as a team the sum of our game has been better than the individual, great credit to the coaching staff.
   Coventry are probably the best team I have seen us play along with Oxford strong in midfield particularly.
   So lot's riding on trying to get a result.
   Can we keep our improved form going?
   Two good tactical astute managers, who will succeed?
   Will Coppinger start ?
   Will our attendance reflect our form and more attend?
   Lot's to discuss please have your say
     
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Colin C No.3 on January 12, 2020, 09:41:25 am
As our most creative midfielder I certainly expect Copps to start. Another assist today to add to the one on Tuesday night, wonder how many that is for the season now.....cue BST’s stat ‘machine’.😉
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 12, 2020, 09:43:00 am
Same team that started yesterday but with Coppinger back in for Gomes would be my guess.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 12, 2020, 09:47:54 am
A good signing or two may put the crowd numbers to where they should be, for a team that is grinding out results. Long may it continue. No fuss, no bragging, no sound bites, the manager and his support staff deserve enormous credit for getting results despite us being, arguably, one of weakest squads in the division (in numbers, at least).

A game that will set a marker down, as Coventry are a strong outfit and look like being top 6 contenders themselves. If only we could get that striker in!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 12, 2020, 09:48:12 am
Big game as they all are now to the end of the season.
See this as a 6 pointer. Not crucial of course with still 21 games to play.
But this will be a big pointer towards where we are and our credentials as possibly an auto promotion team.
As you said Brian they played some very good football at St Andrews and have a strong midfield. They were just lacking up top in scoring goals.
The goals now are flowing fairly consistently and have scored 4 twice in recent weeks, although only managed a 1-1 at home to MK Dons yesterday.

Should be a 10.000 + crowd as they will probably bring 2000/2500 + to the Keepmoat on Saturday.
Should be a cracker as I think Coventry will be fairly offensive with their game plan.
1st goal is always important. Clean sheets are going to get us a a heck of a lot of 3 points between now & end of the season.
If we get the winner in the 93rd min i will be happy.

Question. I know he is not as vocal and he isn’t even the captain.
Is Tom Anderson the new Rob Jones. In fact this back 4 is now resembling that one of 2012/13 in so many ways.
Omen or what.

Blackpool at Bloomfield Road on May 4th 2020 !!!!!!!!!!!

Getting way ahead of myself now. Will be very happy with a trip to Wembley.  :that:


Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2020, 09:53:32 am
Two evenly matched teams in form and style. You could say it's got a draw written all over it.

I'm sure they will try to draw us in and visa versa to hit on the break, unless DM adopts a more aggressive approach and ups the intensity. He may feel now we have a couple more players back he can afford to up the ante.

I think we can be more confident that we are good with or without Copps but again he could be the one out there to make the difference. Unless of course DM can add that extra ingredient we all crave for.

I really hope more people have gotten over their post Christmas blues and man/woman flu and get down to the Keepmoat!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 12, 2020, 10:01:58 am
We have hosted Coventry City 13 times in our history, stretching back to January 1926.

In those 13 games we have only lost once, strangely in our 2012/13 title winning season in League One.

Since that defeat, we have won three straight home games against them, 2-0 on each occasion.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 12, 2020, 10:06:04 am
We have hosted Coventry City 13 times in our history, stretching back to January 1926.

In those 13 games we have only lost once, strangely in our 2012/13 title winning season in League One.

Since that defeat, we have won three straight home games against them, 2-0 on each occasion.

Well that's it then, nowt to worry about!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 12, 2020, 10:09:46 am
We have hosted Coventry City 13 times in our history, stretching back to January 1926.

In those 13 games we have only lost once, strangely in our 2012/13 title winning season in League One.

Since that defeat, we have won three straight home games against them, 2-0 on each occasion.

Well that's it then, nowt to worry about!
If only football was as simple as that.
Well actually it would be very boring wouldn’t it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: bedale rover on January 12, 2020, 12:44:11 pm
We have hosted Coventry City 13 times in our history, stretching back to January 1926.

In those 13 games we have only lost once, strangely in our 2012/13 title winning season in League One.

Since that defeat, we have won three straight home games against them, 2-0 on each occasion.
We lost one nil at the Ricoh in 2008/9 season
Been there twice and lost both times
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 12, 2020, 02:56:06 pm
  Liam Walsh a mid field player on loan from Bristol City, in our away game gave one of the best individual  displays of the season against us, he looked a terrifically gifted footballer, also both their full backs pushed forward and caused us lots of trouble, although were not that great defending, so our wide men have a big responsibility to peg them back.
  Mark Robins, I consider is one that got away from us in the past, a manager I have always respected, and would have preferred to Fergie myself, but totally irrelevant to this game, although I am expecting Darren to come up against one of the most proactive managers in this division along with Mr Clough, not adverse to changing formations during a game to  get the advantage.
  At St Andrews it was a very tight affair, nothing between the sides, and both teams playing well.
  They played a high tempo game based on pace, a game that is not easy to maintain over a long season, hopefully it is beginning to tell on their play in the second half of the season.
  A game to look forward to, good football to be expected, and we can approach games with a bit of confidence that we will be at least competitive, play well to our strengths and we have every chance of getting a result, Whiteman and Sheaf now playing their best football of the season, and as a team we seem to have recovered our cohesion and have that little maestro Coppinger to call on when everything else fails.
  Like everyone else I am hoping we can strengthen the squad in the next few days, Blair coming back to fitness a big boost to us, and Bingham's contribution yesterday was a boost to the supporters and no doubt to himself. it was a great goal, Bingham collecting the ball in his own half  with their centre half behind him, he collected the ball and laid it wide to James who played it down the line to Coppinger  who ran into the area and pulled it back to the edge of the box from the goal line, where Bingham took it away from a defender in his stride and placed a great shot in the far corner.
  Now I know the criticism Bingham has had, but to turn after laying the ball off and get into the box for the pulled back pass showed great pace and determination to get in there bloody well done lad.
  I would start the same team as yesterday apart from Coppinger in for Gomes, harsh on Gomes probably who did well yesterday, but Coppinger has more flair ( he has more than most players at this level not a slight on Gomes) who himself is showing good progress and could well grow into being a vital player with more experience.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: scawsby steve on January 12, 2020, 08:07:57 pm
  Liam Walsh a mid field player on loan from Bristol City, in our away game gave one of the best individual  displays of the season against us, he looked a terrifically gifted footballer, also both their full backs pushed forward and caused us lots of trouble, although were not that great defending, so our wide men have a big responsibility to peg them back.
  Mark Robins, I consider is one that got away from us in the past, a manager I have always respected, and would have preferred to Fergie myself, but totally irrelevant to this game, although I am expecting Darren to come up against one of the most proactive managers in this division along with Mr Clough, not adverse to changing formations during a game to  get the advantage.
  At St Andrews it was a very tight affair, nothing between the sides, and both teams playing well.
  They played a high tempo game based on pace, a game that is not easy to maintain over a long season, hopefully it is beginning to tell on their play in the second half of the season.
  A game to look forward to, good football to be expected, and we can approach games with a bit of confidence that we will be at least competitive, play well to our strengths and we have every chance of getting a result, Whiteman and Sheaf now playing their best football of the season, and as a team we seem to have recovered our cohesion and have that little maestro Coppinger to call on when everything else fails.
  Like everyone else I am hoping we can strengthen the squad in the next few days, Blair coming back to fitness a big boost to us, and Bingham's contribution yesterday was a boost to the supporters and no doubt to himself. it was a great goal, Bingham collecting the ball in his own half  with their centre half behind him, he collected the ball and laid it wide to James who played it down the line to Coppinger  who ran into the area and pulled it back to the edge of the box from the goal line, where Bingham took it away from a defender in his stride and placed a great shot in the far corner.
  Now I know the criticism Bingham has had, but to turn after laying the ball off and get into the box for the pulled back pass showed great pace and determination to get in there bloody well done lad.
  I would start the same team as yesterday apart from Coppinger in for Gomes, harsh on Gomes probably who did well yesterday, but Coppinger has more flair ( he has more than most players at this level not a slight on Gomes) who himself is showing good progress and could well grow into being a vital player with more experience.

Just a bit of pedantry Brian. It was Sheaf who played the ball down the line to Copps for the second goal.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 12, 2020, 08:49:13 pm
 Love a bit of pedantry Steve,my eyes have gone. bloody great move though, and Sheaf is now playing very well and having more influence on games.
 He had a great game yesterday and is getting more involved in the games and on the ball more than before Christmas.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 12, 2020, 09:03:55 pm
Coventry were very impressive when we played them at St Andrews, with the exception of their finishing, which on that day was dire. We were hanging on at times but their strikers were all over the place. While their overall goals scored is about average in top half, only Matt Godden troubles the top scorers table and even then he has only scored one more than Sadlier.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 12, 2020, 09:13:27 pm
We missed a couple of really good chances that day, Ennis really early scuffed one wide and Taylor in the second half somehow blasted over when he had time to place it in the net..

I was happy with the draw that day.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Reesielad on January 12, 2020, 09:51:12 pm
I don’t think Godden was playing that day was he, I maybe mistaken. I just remember Hiwula missing chance after chance, so if he did play then he must of been quiet


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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 12, 2020, 09:56:08 pm
Godden played all 90 mins according to the bbc report..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Reesielad on January 12, 2020, 10:02:05 pm
Godden played all 90 mins according to the bbc report..

Christ, Thanks. Shows how much attention I pay!


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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 12, 2020, 10:34:44 pm
I couldn’t remember either so looked back to check..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: scawsby steve on January 13, 2020, 04:27:29 am
The kid that impressed the most that day was Callum O'Hare, on loan from Villa, and apparently of interest to us at the beginning of the season.

He ran our defence ragged at times.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 13, 2020, 09:45:25 am
  Steve you are right he had a blinder that day.
        Fejiri Okenabirhe is supposed to be on the point of signing for us from Shrewsbury according to reports and a thread on this forum. I can remember him from our game at Shrewsbury last season, when they beat us 2-0 battered us in the first half, and some how stopped us from scoring when we battered them in the second half, the game being mostly played in the half of the field in front of us the away fans.
  Myself and my mate Derek discussed on the night why was it we never seem to sign unknown players like Fejiri who are big strong lads with pace, that give us loads of trouble,and how teams like Shrewsbury always seam to come up with someone from nowhere, him playing on the left of a front two and his partner running us ragged in the first half, we could not handle them, and I think resorted to bringing Butler I think on who had a slight injury and was not picked in the starting line up.
  He set up their second goal with a neat lay off, and looked a big strong unit who was mobile. If my memory is right we could have a great option as an attacking player on our hands, although I would start the same team with only Coppinger as a starting change, the old adage if it aint broke don't fix it comes to mind, and with any new signings, our present form allows us to be able to assimilate them into the team at a time the management think appropriate.
  And can I throw this in, Bingham played well in the first half at Wimbledon as a wide right player, and on Saturday showed he can be dangerous coming in from the left and altered a lot of peoples minds about his playing ability, as well as Blair coming back which is also a great addition, being able to cover we know a number of posits John is now back to fitness and able to play.
   If there are no outgoings to the actual match day squad, do we actually need now to sign any more players? I feel not because I still want to encourage the likes of Amos coming through, and don't see the need of a complete road block in front of the youngsters who have been on the fringes, What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: donny dave on January 13, 2020, 10:17:35 am
I am with you give the Rovers youngsters a pathway to the first team.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NickDRFC on January 13, 2020, 11:16:32 am
Completely disagree with staying with what we’ve got, Selby. Do you really think we’ll go through the rest of the season without any injuries or suspensions? The squad is paper thin and assuming the lad from Shrewsbury signs then we still need at least 2 new faces.

Signing new players shouldn’t preclude youngsters from getting a chance - if they’re good enough, it’s down to Moore to introduce them to the first team and manage their appearances.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 13, 2020, 12:56:16 pm
Even more so after what happened at the Memorial Stadium on Saturday, teams will press us visciously from here on. I doubt our playing from the back and midfield will have that luxury again. The only exceptions could be when playing some of the other teams who are more open, and when playing away.

Coventry can play well by sitting back/counter attacking or by pressing, and they have the outlets to benefit from this. It will be a fascinating game, one in which tactical adaptability from Moore will be tested.

I expect it will be tight with a frantic last part to the game. Weather conditions are so far looking good.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: the vicar on January 13, 2020, 02:29:28 pm
A good signing or two may put the crowd numbers to where they should be, for a team that is grinding out results. Long may it continue. No fuss, no bragging, no sound bites, the manager and his support staff deserve enormous credit for getting results despite us being, arguably, one of weakest squads in the division (in numbers, at least).

A game that will set a marker down, as Coventry are a strong outfit and look like being top 6 contenders themselves. If only we could get that striker in!
sadly the bad stretch we had 1 win in 11 did nothing for our home attendance and it takes ages to claw them back, but carry on as we are at the moment and they will surely come back
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 13, 2020, 05:20:02 pm
  Nick, I have no problem with us signing any player at all,  that is entirely up to the manager.
  My problem with it is when a manager ( like Fergie ) does not know his best team or even the best way their team plays,  When we have played well, kept clean sheets, and won a few games, my instinct is to even if we sign players, make them earn the shirt or give it away by playing poorly.
  Too many signings can muddy a managers thinking, I can remember Malcolm Allison explaining how he was responsible for Manchester City losing the league 1 title by signing the best midfield player in Europe at the time in Rodney Marsh, and how in hind sight he should have signed him, but not play him until the season after, as he changed the whole pace of how the team played.
  The pressure to play new players, especially loan players who a team put out to get game time, can result in better players not getting a game, as the useless winger we had from Aston Villa on loan under Fergie proved two or three years ago, and the one we had from Manchester City under the same manager, the only possible reason to play them was because of an agreement with their clubs, even I think that Fergie didn't  think them better than some of our other players at the time, but had to play them.
  I don't think Darren would fall into that trap by the way, but our present squad is a tight unit, in Blair John and Coppinger on the bench last week, Bingham changing peoples minds, and Lawlor and Jones as back up keepers plus the starting eleven unless a couple do leave two at the most is what I think we need to keep players in the team on their toes, and harmony in the changing rooms, which at this time of the season is critical.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 14, 2020, 11:39:27 am
Big bounce back from Bristol Rovers tonight at Cov in the Cup? Likely to at least give them a harder game than they gave us, stand in manager Kevin Mayer giving them a freshness and them also playing for their manager, Ben Garner, who's daughter is apparently in intensive care. Plus some of that Cup distraction may benefit us either way.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Reesielad on January 14, 2020, 07:23:25 pm
Matty Godden and a few regular players rested for their game against Bristol Rovers tonight.


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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 14, 2020, 08:15:26 pm
  It is just another game, one that if we play our best players, and they play well we have every chance of getting a good result.
  If football was easy to predict, we would have done a lot better in those ten so called easy matches before Christmas, and would have struggled in the last four or five.
 It's a funny old game.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 15, 2020, 12:23:44 pm
 After winning last night easily, Coventry are looking to push on with a win at our expense for their promotion push, their cup run not seeming to constrict their league 1 form, and is now looking as though it will pay off handsomely financially, and gives them a chance to invest in their playing staff.
  According to reports they brushed Bristol,Rovers aside easily with fast direct attacking football, and had the luxury of being able to rest a couple of their players from playing.
  So a hard game in prospect, them playing three at the back, a system that depends on their wing backs getting forward, so our wide men penning them back could be vital to our chances of exposing a defensive weakness if there is any.
  Our mid field needs at least to match them up, and if at all possible get control of that area, which will not be easy, the battle in that area at St Andrews showing both sides had players with skill and effort in that area.
  Both sides have the chance to send out a message to the rest of the division that they are serious contenders in the top half of the division, and I expect a tactical top draw division 1 game, that should be attractive to watch with the quality of young players on show. If the game is as good in quality and entertainment as the earlier fixture was, we are in for a good game at least, and hopefully another three points.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 15, 2020, 12:32:41 pm
The kid that impressed the most that day was Callum O'Hare, on loan from Villa, and apparently of interest to us at the beginning of the season.

He ran our defence ragged at times.

As I watched him that day he seemed to me the most obvious future Copps, I really wished he was playing for us.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 15, 2020, 07:47:38 pm
  If I remember rightly, they are not adverse to putting the boot in if they have to, was it this game they hacked Ennis down when he was breaking through,could have been his long injury out.
  And their late equaliser was a charge in the back in an ariel challenge before he hit a screamer from the edge of the box.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 15, 2020, 07:53:23 pm
It was..’he got kicked just breaking through halfway not long before halftime..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 16, 2020, 09:23:52 am
  There was a similar foul on TV that resulted in a sending off the other week, and never resulted in an injury that cost's a player time out of the game.
  Retrospective punishment should come in for such fouls, that are seen as professional fouls meant to stop a player getting an advantage in a game, and results in a serious injury, the opposing manager should have the right to bring the situation to the authorities attention in such circumstances. after the game, as it is coming into the game more and more, as defenders feel it is a free hit to do such things.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 17, 2020, 12:23:11 pm
It now looks more or less certain that we will be going into this game with no new signings over this week, and even if there is a surprise late arrival it would be hard to bring someone straight into the side that starts the game.
 Coppinger for  Gomes for a starting place is my preference giving us a bit more flair up top, Gomes a good option off the bench for any of the midfield for an injury if we need to, or to run the game down.
  Two interesting side shows in this game are the clashes of the talented mid field players on each side, and of course our present and recent past goalkeepers, all of which from what I have seen, on their day can be as good as any players in this division, with Coppinger having the experience and close control to do the magic moment that can change a game in an instant.
   We will have to play well as a team to get a result from this game, and the result could go a long way to both sides confidence as to their approach to the end of the season,we the home side hoping for a win, Coventry obviously also wanting a win, but would probably be the happier with not losing the game, as we were at St Andrews earlier in the season.
  So a game to look forward to, probably a larger than normal away following, and because of our slow entry if any into the transfer market window, a somewhat downcast in some cases home fans, doubting our ability to challenge near the top of the league without strengthening.
  Could this game give an indication of just where we are at with the Sunderland game to follow? probably in my view.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 17, 2020, 12:27:18 pm
Game by game, at the moment, we have a very strong starting 11 and 4 or 5 sufficiently good enough from the bench.. therefore tomorrow’s fixture doesn’t worry me in terms of the squad..

With it being Copps’ 39th birthday, I wonder if there is any plan to mark that.?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 17, 2020, 12:54:31 pm
  I had no idea about that IDM, god where has the time gone, a fantastic servant and player for this club, we are unlikely to see the like of him play for us again, a player who matches the likes of any great player, and the club has had some that has preceded him, and deserves the way he is held in esteem by us the supporters.
  I hope he has a great day, and one we can share with him with a victory, which I am sure would be his main birthday wish and ours.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 17, 2020, 10:44:16 pm
Here's a quote from the Coventry City Fans Forum:

"Interesting game. They’ve hit form and found something closer to their true position after being 3 or 4 games behind everyone else and of course it took a 89th minute equaliser to get anything against them at home. In their last 5 they’ve won 4 - the defeat coming against Sunderland. Wins against Peterborough, Oxford, Shrewsbury and Bristol Rovers. The first 3 we haven’t beat this season."
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: dknward2 on January 17, 2020, 10:51:46 pm
Think it’s going to be a very even game either a draw or a narrow win either way
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Paul Simpson on January 17, 2020, 10:58:51 pm
I’d be happy with a point in this tough clash but actually believe we can beat them!! Come on you reds!! ⚽️⚽️🤞
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 01:34:05 am
This thread is more important than any other right now, all that matters is this weekends fixture against Coventry City.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NickDRFC on January 18, 2020, 07:55:46 am
Despite the struggles and squabbles of this week I’ve got a good feeling about today. Home win!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: godlike1 on January 18, 2020, 08:10:01 am
Let's get behined the team on the pitch and DM forget the farcical behaviour of those who are supposed to be helping and cheer them on no matter what.

Coventry and Mark Robins are a good team and on a good run as well as being one of the best we've played so far. Let's hope. DM has his tactics right as I think this could be like the Oxford game
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: drfchound on January 18, 2020, 08:18:20 am
Agreed on it probably being a tight game.
I reckon it could be a one nil match.
I just hope we get the one.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Barmby Rover on January 18, 2020, 08:31:12 am
Having looked at the away game highlights again, with a strong team we produce better chances than Coventry, and should have won. At the moment the team is as strong again, I can see us winning 2-1.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Bezza on January 18, 2020, 08:59:57 am
What is the future for Coventry, would they still be homeless if they manage to get promoted.?.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: andy didcott on January 18, 2020, 09:40:55 am
Come on u reds, looking forward to this one, gunna be a gud en.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: SydneyRover on January 18, 2020, 09:46:58 am
A bit of chitchat on the Coventry forum a lot of it much the same as here with most saying they think it will be a tough game, would love to win but would take a point.


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''Looks like Darren Moore and McSheffrey were on a spying mission in midweek to check out our team. Hope we’ve done our homework on them as well. Would love to win this one as it would be a big statement. Time to start beating the teams in and around the top 10 to get some separation''
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 18, 2020, 10:55:43 am
  I have watched every game home and away this season, and I believe that the team is only now beginning to put into practice and understand the way the manager wants to play the game.
  Since Christmas  our better form has been evident in results, but the actual organisation,and formation of the team during a match, especially when we lose the ball, how we get men across the field between our goal and the opposition players with banks of four in front of them, and players like Ennis and Taylor tackling back has been the reason for our improved defence.
  It is obvious that a lot of work is being done on the training pitch, and our young players are much more aware of where they need to be  on the pitch in certain circumstances. 
  The players are much the same in names as the team that started the season, but they are better players than they were at that time as a unit.
  I always maintained that under Sod every player we had under his tutelage were better players when they left than before he came to the club. My opinion is that our present management team are the same, and we are starting to see how good this side can be as a unit, and the players we have are going to have every opportunity to improve their game while at this club.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 18, 2020, 11:00:00 am
Agree with all that with exception of Tomi Ameobi.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2020, 11:18:41 am
Looks a very tough and close game on paper and has 1-1 or 1-0 written all over it.

So that’s a guaranteed 3-2 or 3-3 result today.  :zzz:

Expecting an entertaining game and would be surprised if Coventry come and shut up shop.
Think it will be an open game. 1st goal is always huge, not decisive if it comes early of course, but we definitely seem to be more comfortable when we score 1st especially at home.

Let’s hope Copps gets the birthday present he would want today.
3 points.  :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Retdon1 on January 18, 2020, 11:35:54 am
Our team picks its self today baring any injuries
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 11:39:27 am
  I have watched every game home and away this season, and I believe that the team is only now beginning to put into practice and understand the way the manager wants to play the game.
  Since Christmas  our better form has been evident in results, but the actual organisation,and formation of the team during a match, especially when we lose the ball, how we get men across the field between our goal and the opposition players with banks of four in front of them, and players like Ennis and Taylor tackling back has been the reason for our improved defence.
  It is obvious that a lot of work is being done on the training pitch, and our young players are much more aware of where they need to be  on the pitch in certain circumstances. 
  The players are much the same in names as the team that started the season, but they are better players than they were at that time as a unit.
  I always maintained that under Sod every player we had under his tutelage were better players when they left than before he came to the club. My opinion is that our present management team are the same, and we are starting to see how good this side can be as a unit, and the players we have are going to have every opportunity to improve their game while at this club.

I have been at all the home and away games with the exception of one away game but don't agree with your observations, tbh I think your over thinking this.

For me the players have been playing to the managements instructions since and they have been understood and carried out very well since the day he arrived. We had some excellent performances, very similar to this last month at the beginning of the season you will remember and then a dip with some mixed results. The reason for the most recent improved performances is down pure and simply to the fact that we have been able to field our best 11 and been able to keep them on the feild free from injury.

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2020, 11:51:06 am
It’s a mixture of having our best 11 on the field and the obvious hard work that has been done on the training ground.
The defensive work done is so clear to see. We are very organised and hard to score against. That doesn’t happen by accident.

Having said all that Niall Ennis is a huge plus for us. The whole function of the team is so much more effective when he is in the team.
The statistics bears this out with the number of points we have got when he plays.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 11:56:27 am
It’s a mixture of having our best 11 on the field and the obvious hard work that has been done on the training ground.
The defensive work done is so clear to see. We are very organised and hard to score against. That doesn’t happen by accident.

Having said all that Niall Ennis is a huge plus for us. The whole function of the team is so much more effective when he is in the team.
The statistics bears this out with the number of points we have got when he plays.

You cannot operate as a 11 without an effective hard working physical CF, he is the foil to the whole side.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 18, 2020, 11:59:27 am
It does frustrate me when fans are shouting for us to close players down or go in for a tackle, when it is just as important to be in the best positions to defend - preventing the dangerous crosses or a killer pass.  Some folks said Shrewsbury were poor opposition - I would say we would never know because of the way we played, we nullified any threat they may have posed.  That was really apparent in the first half when in all fairness we weren’t so great ourselves going forwards.

We are at the moment very difficult to beat - Sunderland managed it by being more competitive on the night in every position.

Today I can’t expect a goal fest, even though both sides can play decent football.

What price 1-0 with Copps scoring.?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 12:08:11 pm
It does frustrate me when fans are shouting for us to close players down or go in for a tackle, when it is just as important to be in the best positions to defend - preventing the dangerous crosses or a killer pass.  Some folks said Shrewsbury were poor opposition - I would say we would never know because of the way we played, we nullified any threat they may have posed.  That was really apparent in the first half when in all fairness we weren’t so great ourselves going forwards.

We are at the moment very difficult to beat - Sunderland managed it by being more competitive on the night in every position.

Today I can’t expect a goal fest, even though both sides can play decent football.

What price 1-0 with Copps scoring.?

Spot on, its about defending as a unit, defending the space, not letting the opposition get in behind you, nothing anymore about putting in tackles and putting your opposite number in row Z, thats long gone.

As regards Shrewsbury, you play whats in front of you, irrespective of the opposition. We have dropped points against inferior opposition this season yet gained points against very good sides, its all too easy to dismiss a side and drop your guard and come off second best. We did the job that was expected on Shrewsbury and took all three points, end of subject!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: sha66y on January 18, 2020, 12:10:54 pm
We lost to Sunderland because we didn’t Field our strongest team if I remember....Copps  and James on the bench , Gomez in midfield looking overawed and Cameron John at left back not getting down the channels and linking play.....

We got beat because the team lacked true balance....my opinion of course
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 18, 2020, 12:24:18 pm
Well I was originally expecting to miss today’s game, but plans have changed and I will be on my way soon..  it was a decent match when we played them at St. Andrews, so I’m hoping for the same, albeit with a couple of extra points in the bag..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 18, 2020, 12:44:24 pm
As our most creative midfielder I certainly expect Copps to start. Another assist today to add to the one on Tuesday night, wonder how many that is for the season now.....cue BST’s stat ‘machine’.😉

You don't need me spadger. The Press Association does it for you, via the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/doncaster-rovers/top-scorers
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2020, 12:53:09 pm
Agree with all that with exception of Tomi Ameobi.

You say that, but he's doing well for himself in Canada now!

I'd like to think he picked more up from SOD than he did his two spells at Whitley Bay anyway, even if there is a cracking ice cream parlour on the seafront there.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: 5 on Tour on January 18, 2020, 05:35:12 pm
Coventry weren’t better than us today. We were just significantly below our best. Our passing in midfield was awful and made far worse by a serious lack of movement at times. Unfortunately, days like today happen in sport and we just have to move on.

Positives:

Bingham is looking better still. Some very good touches and driving runs which Sads wasn’t giving us in the first half(I’m ready for all the over top replies about anything relating to Sads).

Halliday gets better and better and better. In all ways.

Copps. Happy Birthday. Went missing a couple of times but other than that he was the most creative spark we had.

Taylor just running and running and running. How the Left Back wasn’t sent off I have no idea.

Negatives:

Sheaf and Whiteman. Have they met? I’ve never seen so many misplaced passes in my life and I coach Under 7’s. Together they were absolutely shocking at moving the ball around. And STOP waiting for the ball - both of you!

Sadlier. Did absolutely nothing and when Taylor is running around like the energiser bunny on the other side it shows up even more. Up until the header he went for where he took the knock - he had ducked out of every high ball that went near him. On form he’s brilliant. Today he was not. At all.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2020, 05:40:34 pm
Bingham is just not good enough for me. He has no quality. Runs, sure. Effort, okay. No quality on the ball, off the ball or in front of goal. When we were attacking it was like having ten men most of the time, he simply isn't up to the level. It isn't Sadlier's job to run on the shoulder, whereas for Bingham that clearly was the directive. Sadlier can create, Bingham can't so he isn't asked to. I'd rather have seen Blair or Watters on at the break.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 18, 2020, 06:02:42 pm
What game was you watching?  "Coventry weren't better than us"????  They looked like a team that had met each other before walking onto the field at least.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: selby on January 18, 2020, 06:41:27 pm
  One question I will ask is, if one of our players got the ball in the same position as the Coventry player, would any of our players shoot? or look for a pass?
  We were beaten by a better side, Ennis never held the ball up all the game, RA you made your mind up about Bingham and Thomas the day they signed before even seeing them play.
  We need a striker, yes and although we were not that bad today, could have easily had a penalty,but were out thought and at times out fought. Whiteman was poor at times, Coppinger well marked, Sadlier looks like he doesn't want to get injured, and were made to play across the field by Coventry because apart from Coppinger and Taylor none of the others think of backing his marker up and going past him.
   The back four again played well and kept us in the game, one mistake of not closing a player down cost us the game, although playing with our team' they probably didn't think anyone would shoot from that distance.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2020, 07:00:07 pm
Coventry were better than us. No question they were.
Best team to come to the Keepmoat this season. Allowing them to get in front turned out to be the killer. They were extremely well organised and prevented us getting behind their defence. Made us play it square. It was like tying to thread a needle through their defence.
They did a very thorough job on Copps and stifled our creativity.
Ennis never got a sniff out of Coventry’s central defenders who were very impressive.

Coventry are certainties for top 6 on that showing and could gate crash the top 2
Losing to them is no disgrace at all. There are always 2 teams in a match & sometimes you simply have to hold your hands up and admit we were beaten by the better team.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: scawsby steve on January 18, 2020, 07:32:10 pm
Marko Marosi could have brought his snap box with him today. That must be the easiest afternoon he's had all season.

Utterly and totally inept, abysmal, toothless attacking display.

We all know what the problem is. We've just got to wait and see what happens over the next 13 days.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: drfchound on January 18, 2020, 07:37:11 pm
Marko Marosi could have brought his snap box with him today. That must be the easiest afternoon he's had all season.

Utterly and totally inept, abysmal, toothless attacking display.

We all know what the problem is. We've just got to wait and see what happens over the next 13 days.






Correct Steve, however anyone who says what you have done is likely to be classed as a moaner.
Moore had little or no options to bring anyone on who might have helped us to rescue the game.
The only possible thing,in my opinion, that he might have tried was to take Ennis off as he was having no impact on the game, bringing Blair on to play down the right and pushing Taylor onto the left wing.
Sadlier played as though he is on his way out of the club and I fully expect that to happen.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 18, 2020, 08:15:10 pm
DM's post match interview. Can't argue with that.

Oh, and also a message from him to those showing very little patience.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p080s350

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 08:58:50 pm
  One question I will ask is, if one of our players got the ball in the same position as the Coventry player, would any of our players shoot? or look for a pass?
  We were beaten by a better side, Ennis never held the ball up all the game, RA you made your mind up about Bingham and Thomas the day they signed before even seeing them play.
  We need a striker, yes and although we were not that bad today, could have easily had a penalty,but were out thought and at times out fought. Whiteman was poor at times, Coppinger well marked, Sadlier looks like he doesn't want to get injured, and were made to play across the field by Coventry because apart from Coppinger and Taylor none of the others think of backing his marker up and going past him.
   The back four again played well and kept us in the game, one mistake of not closing a player down cost us the game, although playing with our team' they probably didn't think anyone would shoot from that distance.

"Not that bad today" lol, we were absolutely awful, shocking in fact. We were outplayed and out thought by a better team right across the pitch for the whole 90 minutes today.

As regards Sadlier not wanting to get injured, tell me a player that does, what a stupid comment! But I'll let Sadlier know that you asking after his welfare shall I as he sits with his face smashed to pieces and still bleeding tonight from heading the back of the coventry defenders head!



Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NickDRFC on January 18, 2020, 09:00:39 pm
NewDonny, how do you think Sadlier played today?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 18, 2020, 09:08:48 pm
NewDonny, how do you think Sadlier played today?

Wasn't involved, very quit, came off very frustrated and of course in a bit of bad way. He can only influence a game if he has the ball and he saw precious little of that today!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2020, 09:16:37 pm
  One question I will ask is, if one of our players got the ball in the same position as the Coventry player, would any of our players shoot? or look for a pass?
  We were beaten by a better side, Ennis never held the ball up all the game, RA you made your mind up about Bingham and Thomas the day they signed before even seeing them play.
  We need a striker, yes and although we were not that bad today, could have easily had a penalty,but were out thought and at times out fought. Whiteman was poor at times, Coppinger well marked, Sadlier looks like he doesn't want to get injured, and were made to play across the field by Coventry because apart from Coppinger and Taylor none of the others think of backing his marker up and going past him.
   The back four again played well and kept us in the game, one mistake of not closing a player down cost us the game, although playing with our team' they probably didn't think anyone would shoot from that distance.

I made my mind up about Thomas and Bingham after seeing them both play a few times, not beforehand. I've seen enough now of Bingham to know he hasn't got the quality. But we've all done this debate to death.

If attacking signings are brought in, it ceases to be a problem because Bingham simply won't get on the pitch.

Anyway, aside from the baseless comment on Sadlier I agree with the rest of your post. A fair assessment of things, aside from that and the fact a couple of defenders had dodgy individual displays in my opinion.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: roversdude on January 18, 2020, 09:21:09 pm
Coventry were better than us. No question they were.
Best team to come to the Keepmoat this season. Allowing them to get in front turned out to be the killer. They were extremely well organised and prevented us getting behind their defence. Made us play it square. It was like tying to thread a needle through their defence.
They did a very thorough job on Copps and stifled our creativity.
Ennis never got a sniff out of Coventry’s central defenders who were very impressive.

Coventry are certainties for top 6 on that showing and could gate crash the top 2
Losing to them is no disgrace at all. There are always 2 teams in a match & sometimes you simply have to hold your hands up and admit we were beaten by the better team.

Have to agree with this. As much as it grieves me to say Coventry were the best team to play us at KMS
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: since-1969 on January 18, 2020, 09:25:05 pm
Coventry weren’t better than us today. We were just significantly below our best. Our passing in midfield was awful and made far worse by a serious lack of movement at times. Unfortunately, days like today happen in sport and we just have to move on.
YES they were better than us THEY SCORED !
Positives:

Bingham is looking better still. Some very good touches and driving runs which Sads wasn’t giving us in the first half(I’m ready for all the over top replies about anything relating to Sads). Agreed !!

Halliday gets better and better and better. In all ways. Still isn’t brave enough and doesn’t shoot enough!

Copps. Happy Birthday. Went missing a couple of times but other than that he was the most creative spark we had. Agreed!!

Taylor just running and running and running. How the Left Back wasn’t sent off I have no idea.
Doesn’t get in the Penalty box when running at defenders instead of crossing to no one at the back post !!
Negatives:

Sheaf and Whiteman. Have they met? I’ve never seen so many misplaced passes in my life and I coach Under 7’s. Together they were absolutely shocking at moving the ball around. And STOP waiting for the ball - both of you!
Sheaf and Whiteman can’t play together they are just not compatible.

Sadlier. Did absolutely nothing and when Taylor is running around like the energiser bunny on the other side it shows up even more. Up until the header he went for where he took the knock - he had ducked out of every high ball that went near him. On form he’s brilliant. Today he was not. At all.
Stadlier is just Not good enough , drifts in and out of play , never tackles back or retrieves lost balls he lost in the first place.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: Jonathan on January 18, 2020, 10:10:38 pm
Coventry weren’t better than us today. We were just significantly below our best. Our passing in midfield was awful and made far worse by a serious lack of movement at times. Unfortunately, days like today happen in sport and we just have to move on.
YES they were better than us THEY SCORED !
Positives:

Bingham is looking better still. Some very good touches and driving runs which Sads wasn’t giving us in the first half(I’m ready for all the over top replies about anything relating to Sads). Agreed !!

Halliday gets better and better and better. In all ways. Still isn’t brave enough and doesn’t shoot enough!

Copps. Happy Birthday. Went missing a couple of times but other than that he was the most creative spark we had. Agreed!!

Taylor just running and running and running. How the Left Back wasn’t sent off I have no idea.
Doesn’t get in the Penalty box when running at defenders instead of crossing to no one at the back post !!
Negatives:

Sheaf and Whiteman. Have they met? I’ve never seen so many misplaced passes in my life and I coach Under 7’s. Together they were absolutely shocking at moving the ball around. And STOP waiting for the ball - both of you!
Sheaf and Whiteman can’t play together they are just not compatible.

Sadlier. Did absolutely nothing and when Taylor is running around like the energiser bunny on the other side it shows up even more. Up until the header he went for where he took the knock - he had ducked out of every high ball that went near him. On form he’s brilliant. Today he was not. At all.
Stadlier is just Not good enough , drifts in and out of play , never tackles back or retrieves lost balls he lost in the first place.

Who is Stadlier? If you mean Sadlier then of course he’s good enough. He’s our most productive player. Barely saw the ball today in what was a hugely frustrating first half. A hugely frustrating second half for that matter too.

We’re short of attacking threat across the squad so let’s not start getting at the players that have been producing the goals!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: NewDonny on January 19, 2020, 01:39:51 am
Coventry weren’t better than us today. We were just significantly below our best. Our passing in midfield was awful and made far worse by a serious lack of movement at times. Unfortunately, days like today happen in sport and we just have to move on.
YES they were better than us THEY SCORED !
Positives:

Bingham is looking better still. Some very good touches and driving runs which Sads wasn’t giving us in the first half(I’m ready for all the over top replies about anything relating to Sads). Agreed !!

Halliday gets better and better and better. In all ways. Still isn’t brave enough and doesn’t shoot enough!

Copps. Happy Birthday. Went missing a couple of times but other than that he was the most creative spark we had. Agreed!!

Taylor just running and running and running. How the Left Back wasn’t sent off I have no idea.
Doesn’t get in the Penalty box when running at defenders instead of crossing to no one at the back post !!
Negatives:

Sheaf and Whiteman. Have they met? I’ve never seen so many misplaced passes in my life and I coach Under 7’s. Together they were absolutely shocking at moving the ball around. And STOP waiting for the ball - both of you!
Sheaf and Whiteman can’t play together they are just not compatible.

Sadlier. Did absolutely nothing and when Taylor is running around like the energiser bunny on the other side it shows up even more. Up until the header he went for where he took the knock - he had ducked out of every high ball that went near him. On form he’s brilliant. Today he was not. At all.
Stadlier is just Not good enough , drifts in and out of play , never tackles back or retrieves lost balls he lost in the first place.

Who is Stadlier? If you mean Sadlier then of course he’s good enough. He’s our most productive player. Barely saw the ball today in what was a hugely frustrating first half. A hugely frustrating second half for that matter too.

We’re short of attacking threat across the squad so let’s not start getting at the players that have been producing the goals!

Thank christ someone was watching the same game as me today, I agree Jonathan thoroughly frustrating and very difficult to watch.



Title: Re: Let's talk about the Coventry City game
Post by: IDM on January 19, 2020, 08:26:16 pm
Marko Marosi could have brought his snap box with him today. That must be the easiest afternoon he's had all season.

Utterly and totally inept, abysmal, toothless attacking display.

We all know what the problem is. We've just got to wait and see what happens over the next 13 days.

Have to disagree,

Taylor stung his palms, Copps had him beat with a chip headed off the line and even Bingham drew a (straightforward) save..

Of course it goes without saying that we need to perform better up front, with or without new players, but inept abysmal and toothless is an exaggeration in my opinion.