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mrfrostsdad

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #30 on November 23, 2017, 08:08:08 am by mrfrostsdad »
The only reason I suggested dropping Wright is so we could play with 2 specialist full backs and 2 specialist centre halves.
In the bigger scheme of things the 2 centre halves could be any of Wright, Baudry or Butler. I don't think it would make much difference really as none of the 3 is any better/worse than the other.

Having seen the highlights from Wigan, and in particular the third goal, I would definitely bring in Marosi. I think I could have saved that



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GazLaz

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #31 on November 23, 2017, 08:24:53 am by GazLaz »
The only reason I suggested dropping Wright is so we could play with 2 specialist full backs and 2 specialist centre halves.
In the bigger scheme of things the 2 centre halves could be any of Wright, Baudry or Butler. I don't think it would make much difference really as none of the 3 is any better/worse than the other.

Having seen the highlights from Wigan, and in particular the third goal, I would definitely bring in Marosi. I think I could have saved that

Wright has been our best player this season.

selby

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #32 on November 23, 2017, 09:43:36 am by selby »
  Dickos1,I agree that  Baudry is two footed and a good player,but my friend and I have noticed he is more reluctant to come forward with the ball himself, and does not look for the out ball but passes it back inside to Butler to clear down the channels when played left side.
  He is just not as comfortable on the left side to me,and it takes something away from his game which we cannot afford.
  I have tried to pick a  side and formation that I think would suit the players we have got,rather than shoe horn players into positions.I would have no problem with either Blair/Rodney,Toffolo/Garrett playing in the positions I have chosen them as I think there is nothing between them in what they bring to the team, and you could play Whiteman instead of Blair or Rodney on the right side midfield.

The Red Baron

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #33 on November 23, 2017, 11:29:38 am by The Red Baron »
My mistake if he isn't, but he must be comfortable with both feet then, as he uses his left foot regularly.
I never said he should play wing back, completely different position to full back.
A centre half should comfortably be able to play full back and vice versa.
O Connor, friend, being two examples off the top of my head who were comfortable in either


Having O'Connor play at centre back on a regular basis ruined the best right back we've had in my time. What we wouldn't do for O'Connor and Gareth Roberts now?

RoversAlias

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #34 on November 23, 2017, 01:21:54 pm by RoversAlias »
Dickos, in this thread you've basically now said that the left back slot is closer in style to centre half than wing back when it isn't. Baudry himself said only days ago that he has been having to get used to playing left side of the three because it isn't something he's used to or as naturally adept at as playing on the right.

It's really as simple as this: to a good football manager, a sensible solution to selection problems is never to play players out of position like that. Anyone remember when Dickov decided to start a season with no right backs, and the solution was to play Luke McCullough there even though he was a young, slow as a snail centre half? And Dickov was never a good manager.

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #35 on November 23, 2017, 01:27:17 pm by wing commander »
The only thing worth talking about the MK Dons game is that we win. However it happens we HAVE to win. No excuses, no the refs shite etc etc. A win is the only important thing

Yet if we win playing shit you'll be the first on here saying so

I don't give a monkey's elbow how we win to be honest.

Here goes then:

Marosi in for Lawlor. Lawler inspires no confidence in me whatsoever. Every shot from distance seems to beat him and his distribution is awful.
I'd ditch the back 3 and go with a back 4. Bring in a right back, I guess it would have to be Allcock as there's no-one else, Baudry and Butler centre half and Toffolo left back (we don't have another)
4 in the middle and play with some width. Coppinger and Rowe wide with Houghton and Whiteman central and then 2 up front - a good old 442 that we can actually play.
Up front Marquis wouldn't be playing for me for a while, focus his mind a bit. Play Mandeville and Beestin up front. They couldn't do any worse

   Simple,effective and with width...Back to basic's with our midfielders playing in positions they like..You've sold me on this one Mr Frost..

  On Mandeville even with our problems upfront he didn't even make the match day squad for Wigan..You wouldn't have believed that this time last year when everyone was watching him.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 01:29:46 pm by wing commander »

GazLaz

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #36 on November 23, 2017, 01:30:05 pm by GazLaz »
“They couldn’t do any worse” that’s not true is it! Beestin and Mandeville up front would be a disaster.

wing commander

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #37 on November 23, 2017, 01:50:39 pm by wing commander »
    Okay Gaz why do you say that??..i'm not sure how you can get much more disastrous than our current scoring record..How could it be worse??

dickos1

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #38 on November 23, 2017, 02:00:34 pm by dickos1 »
Dickos, in this thread you've basically now said that the left back slot is closer in style to centre half than wing back when it isn't. Baudry himself said only days ago that he has been having to get used to playing left side of the three because it isn't something he's used to or as naturally adept at as playing on the right.

It's really as simple as this: to a good football manager, a sensible solution to selection problems is never to play players out of position like that. Anyone remember when Dickov decided to start a season with no right backs, and the solution was to play Luke McCullough there even though he was a young, slow as a snail centre half? And Dickov was never a good manager.

I haven't said that at all
I've said it's easier for a centre back to play full back rather than wing back.
That's obvious.

GazLaz

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #39 on November 23, 2017, 02:06:01 pm by GazLaz »
    Okay Gaz why do you say that??..i'm not sure how you can get much more disastrous than our current scoring record..How could it be worse??

So you are saying it can’t be worse than 18th place and 20 points in 19 games?? It can.

wing commander

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #40 on November 23, 2017, 02:25:52 pm by wing commander »
      I'm not saying that at all..What I'm saying is that Marquis couldn't hit a cow arse with a banjo at the minute and he's even been at fault for us conceding..So I don't really see how giving those 2 a try for the MK Dons game would be a disaster..

      If they gel and surprise us by scoring goals that's great and if they don't it will maybe give Marquis a rest and a reality check that he isn't invaluable..

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #41 on November 23, 2017, 03:00:47 pm by goalkick »
With what we have available must be very difficult to forcast a winning team for sat

selby

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #42 on November 24, 2017, 02:00:24 pm by selby »
  Goalkick,of course we can win this game,and I am sure we will have a good go of doing so.
  We have just had two very hard away games,lots of fans thought that we would not even get the point we got at Fleetwood.
  If we play well we have a very good chance of taking three points,lets hope so.

selby

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #43 on November 25, 2017, 11:46:14 am by selby »
  Well it looks like being the perfect football watching day cold,not a lot of wind(except me of course) a low wintry sun which makes me wonder,will our goalkeeper wear a peaked hat or stand with his arm up shading  his eyes as in the last home game.
  It makes me wonder if it is vanity about their looks,or just not fashion,or is it they cannot afford the cap.
  I dont think it would be vanity,as he hardly looked model class when wearing a bobble hat at the development game,must be the cost of a base ball cap then.

RoversAlias

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« Reply #44 on November 25, 2017, 12:10:09 pm by RoversAlias »
I used to love seeing Old Man Sully don the keeper's hat on a sunny day.

selby

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #45 on November 25, 2017, 06:56:43 pm by selby »
  Well,after a horrible half of football,when the opposition looked like they  would give us a good hiding, we changed our set up slightly brought Copps back into the fray in midfield where he got on the ball,and Beestin came on and gave us more width and turned the game on its head.
  The conversation at half time with my friends,centred on just how poor we had been and we looked as if we had not met each other before,well we could not pass to each other,and it looked as if nobody wanted the ball.
  The second half was just the opposite, Beestin played very well and was the catalist of most of our best play,players all of a sudden showed for the ball,and John Marquis at last had players around him to lay the ball off to.
 The second goal actually came from a throw in something we have seemed incapable of throwing to our own players the last few weeks,and with the first being the result of a corner,they were more than a surprise to me.
  Did we deserve 3 points probably just,but other teams would have spanked us in the first half. a word for Nail Mason,I have been his biggest critic,but hats off to him today he had two good halves,unlike most of his team mates,and showed an attacking side to his game which has not been evident to me before,My man of the match,I want to see more of this.
  At the end of the day a win is a win and a handy 3 points,and we did show that as a team we can play more than one formation,although I hope we do not play one formation as badly again,and I have noted that Mason had a shot on target from outside the penalty area( I never thought I would see the day).
  So from the depths of despair at half time,to a scruffy win and happy days at full time,the wife does not have to sleep in the shed,and the dog can have a biscuit,and I dont have to change my vest and underpants till our next loss.

CottyRover

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #46 on November 25, 2017, 07:15:06 pm by CottyRover »
Must be interesting living in your house!

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Re: lets talk about the M>K>Dons match
« Reply #47 on November 25, 2017, 09:02:16 pm by bobjimwilly »
vote for your man of the match --> https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=264391 :scarf:

 

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