Never forget...

[BillyStubbsTears]

...this time last year, Liz Truss was PM.

Yeah. I know.

Anyway, she's had a year to think about it, and apparently it was all the fault of left wingers.

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1700705841819611247?s=20

Which is odd, because I thought it was the global financial markets that said her ideas were utter batshit, and her brain that was at fault for not being able to send coherent messages to her mouth when she tried to speak.

[Sprotyrover]

What a silly Mare, I hope someone gave her both Barrels!

[Reg of the Rovers]

Mistakenly stumbled on to this thread, wrongly assuming it was an opportunity to pay tribute to Take That. 

[BillyStubbsTears]

What a silly Mare, I hope someone gave her both Barrels!

She might well be silly. What does that make the great number of Tory MPs and members that elected her?

[drfchound]

I agree with that bst.
But I suppose the same could be said about those who put Corbyn in charge of the LP and he brought about the biggest defeat in decades for them.

[Iberian Red]

...this time last year, Liz Truss was PM.

Yeah. I know.

Anyway, she's had a year to think about it, and apparently it was all the fault of left wingers.

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1700705841819611247?s=20

Which is odd, because I thought it was the global financial markets that said her ideas were utter batshit, and her brain that was at fault for not being able to send coherent messages to her mouth when she tried to speak.

That's absolutely mental.
Blaming the left for it too.
It's first class trolling though

[DRFC_AjA]

Funny how the financial markets aka bankers are used as some positive barometer in this instance ie the markets went down so it must have been a bad idea, all hail what bankers say. Yet in any other case such as 08 crash, bail outs, rising oil they're the devil who only care about themselves. A narrative fits any agenda when it suits

[Iberian Red]

Funny how the financial markets aka bankers are used as some positive barometer in this instance ie the markets went down so it must have been a bad idea, all hail what bankers say. Yet in any other case such as 08 crash, bail outs, rising oil they're the devil who only care about themselves. A narrative fits any agenda when it suits

Do you really think it's funny?
One was a global economy crisis.
The other was some mad tory.
I blame the left.

[Iberian Red]

Back to Lost Trust. How bitter is she?
More than Nadine?
More than Boris?

More than the idiots that voted for them?
Scrap Lost Truss from that list?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

She has a very small point in some of it. Her agenda couldn't happen because there was too much opposition to it from countries that have established order in another way.

I'm more astounded that she neither saw it not was clever enough to figure out the reaction to it.

[Iberian Red]

BfYP.
 A reasoned response finally. I'd have argue that she  didn't have a point at all tho.
Did she really think going against  the grain globally was going to help the economy?
The evidence was clear from the global reaction. She was laughed at everywhere

[BillyStubbsTears]

Funny how the financial markets aka bankers are used as some positive barometer in this instance ie the markets went down so it must have been a bad idea, all hail what bankers say. Yet in any other case such as 08 crash, bail outs, rising oil they're the devil who only care about themselves. A narrative fits any agenda when it suits

If that made one iota of sense, I'd be happy to reply. But...nope.

[BillyStubbsTears]

She has a very small point in some of it. Her agenda couldn't happen because there was too much opposition to it from countries that have established order in another way.

I'm more astounded that she neither saw it not was clever enough to figure out the reaction to it.

BFYP

The agenda couldn't happen because it was in contradiction to established economic facts.

There's a small but very powerful group of fringe far-right economists who argue that if you reduce taxes for the already wealthy, they are so inspired to work harder that they earn more and pay more absolute tax at the lower level.

It's pushed hard by the likes of the IEA in this country. That was the core of Truss and Kamikwaze-nomics.

The problem is that it is utter b*llocks and has never been borne out by the facts.

When Truss and Kamikwaze actually put that in their Budget, the financial markets very correctly saw it as effectively giving up on ever balancing current spending. And the result was textbook economics. The pound collapsed and Govt bond rates had to rocket. To the extent that the pensions system almost collapsed.

For Truss to blame that on a Left-wing establishment is mad as a box of frogs. To blame it on "other countries" is nearly as daft. It is just basic economics.

[Iberian Red]

Back on topic again.
Liz Truss.
Proper idiot. How the f**k did she get the top job?

[BillyStubbsTears]

She's still in power


Monday: Truss says we should ditch green policies.

Tuesday: Sunak ditches green policies.

Count down the seconds till the useless that's are out.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Terrible idea.

[Donnywolf]

What a silly Mare, I hope someone gave her both Barrels!

She might well be silly. What does that make the great number of Tory MPs and members that elected her?

Only that they didn't want to elect that sneaky , underhanded, lying weasel , or "Johnson's back stabber" as they openly said at the time at any cost

Wonder how that went ? Oh , he got in anyway eh ? Who'd have thought

Get us PR soon so we avoid extremism please ? From whatever source it comes

[danumdon]

What a silly Mare, I hope someone gave her both Barrels!

She might well be silly. What does that make the great number of Tory MPs and members that elected her?

Only that they didn't want to elect that sneaky , underhanded, lying weasel , or "Johnson's back stabber" as they openly said at the time at any cost

Wonder how that went ? Oh , he got in anyway eh ? Who'd have thought

Get us PR soon so we avoid extremism please ? From whatever source it comes

Massive challenge for Labour if the manage to become the next government, will they implement changes to enable PR?

Does anyone really need to be told?

Same shite coming from a slightly different direction which will all add up to precisely nothing changing at all.

Its just going to be someone else's turn.

Meanwhile the country sinks lower than an adders knacker sack.

[Donnywolf]

My hunch is that Labour too will ignore the screams for PR.

Unless they run the Country with a huge majority for 1 maybe the heady heights of 2 terms and then as they are running out of steam introduce PR as an "up yours" move

Who knows ? I care , but of course I have no idea.

[scawsby steve]

My hunch is that Labour too will ignore the screams for PR.

Unless they run the Country with a huge majority for 1 maybe the heady heights of 2 terms and then as they are running out of steam introduce PR as an "up yours" move

Who knows ? I care , but of course I have no idea.

Wolfie, there's no way that Labour will endorse PR, or will be given a second term.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Wolfie, there's no way that Labour will endorse PR, or will be given a second term.

The chances are high of Labour losing all their Scottish feed in coming years. Install PR before then or the wilderness will call for a very long time.

If they are minus their Scots, Labour would need to be appealing to the floating middle ground more, This would mean their personel and policies will become more right wing than they currently are. We'd then be in a worse pseudo democracy than we currently have, heading towards what the USA has.

[albie]

Starmer is against PR, and has already ruled it out for an incoming Labour government.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/27/keir-starmer-now-opposes-scrapping-westminsters-voting-system-for-pr-in-blow-for-reformers/

Determined to copy the mistake made by Gordon Brown, whose failure to bring electoral reform perpetuated the dysfunctional system.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Fascinating how the usual suspects roll yet another thread into their "Starmer's a Kitson" black hole.

Anyway. This Tory has got Sunak's motives fingered.

https://x.com/ZacGoldsmith/status/1704617772158767465?s=20

[BillyStubbsTears]

This is the sort of bullshit Culture War b*llocks that Goldsmith is talking about.

https://twitter.com/RishiSunak/status/1704522548648509467

Sunak wants the nation's pensioners to read The Mail with shaking hands and say, "Eeh, them woke are going to tax me if I don't put meat in 7 different bins."

[drfchound]

Starmer is against PR, and has already ruled it out for an incoming Labour government.
https://bylinetimes.com/2023/04/27/keir-starmer-now-opposes-scrapping-westminsters-voting-system-for-pr-in-blow-for-reformers/

Determined to copy the mistake made by Gordon Brown, whose failure to bring electoral reform perpetuated the dysfunctional system.

Ah, Starmer will probably change his mind on this.

[selby]

  Never forget what Labour did to the working mans pension pot the last time they were allowed to squander hard working peoples future.

[Iberian Red]

Why do people seem to get bigoted and bitter as they get older?
Next thing we know they will be blaming the opposition for f#£K&ng  the country up the bum hole.

[selby]

  Probably when you have been robbed you don't want to fall for the crap again.

[SydneyRover]

A pint of mild and bitter thanks

[BillyStubbsTears]

Still there ranting away.


https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1705659707728212444

For clarity, this is the OBR that said Truss's economic plans would be a f**king car crash.

Who do you trust? Them or her?