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Sandy Lane

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Re: Trump
« Reply #150 on July 17, 2019, 11:42:04 pm by Sandy Lane »
Here is an interesting observation about Trump which former FBI Director James Comey said during a recent interview.  When asked why Republicans go along with him and his lies, he said that when you are in a meeting with him surrounded by his cabinet or others and Trump states something which everyone knows is untrue (i.e. the size of his inaugural crowd) that people don’t challenge him on it. And so on it goes. Lies are told over and over, get bigger and bigger, and not challenged; therefore by virtue of the fact that no one questions or corrects him, they knowingly are swept up and become complicit in them.  Comey says many, many people around him don’t have the strength to combat it.

As for his racist tweets towards the congresswomen, I believe he does it on purpose to create a foe and a distraction. He doesn’t have Hillary to attack so he goes to his base and creates a new bad guy.  He is trying to make these women the face of the Democratic Party and their views as being those of all democrats.  I do agree he needs to be called out on these racist tweets and was very glad of yesterday’s House Resolution to condemn his racism, but the Dems are trying to be unifying while trying not to divide everyone further and it’s a tough line to walk.  Mueller will testify next week and hopefully he can be interviewed in a way which clarifies his report and puts to bed Trump’s lies on the outcome of the report, (No collusion/No obstruction) put forth before anyone was able to read the report by AG Barr, purposely obscuring the truth.  Maybe the facts from Mueller himself will lead more people to support impeachment.

Also, I read recently an opinion on why republicans continue to support him.  They said because he is their Republican President and there isn’t anyone else in line. Also I think the economy doing well causes them to ignore his racist views and Russian leanings.  They, like him, don’t believe that Russia is a threat to democracy around the world.  Consequently Trump, through his lies and money making schemes in UAE, Israel, Moscow (which are affecting our foreign policy towards them), plays perfectly into Putin’s grand scheme.



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MachoMadness

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Re: Trump
« Reply #151 on July 18, 2019, 09:36:56 am by MachoMadness »
How long before another one of these MAGA nutjobs goes after one of these women?

Boomstick

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Re: Trump
« Reply #152 on July 18, 2019, 10:40:46 am by Boomstick »
Alright BS. I'll buy that.

He didn't know where they came from. So presumably when he wrote this...
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
...he was just guessing? He just assumed they came from (what he has previously called) shithouse countries because...

...well, because why? What is it about those 4 that might make a racist assume they come from shithouse countries?

Have some pride in yourself man. If you want to support a racist, support him. Stop debasing yourself by making stupid excuses for him.

I despise racism.

But what I don't like is snowflakes crying racism when it isn't.

It's dangerous and waters down and weakens the word.

I'm not saying trump isn't racist, but crying racism every time he says something you disagree with is weak.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 10:43:07 am by Boomstick »

SydneyRover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #153 on July 18, 2019, 11:28:55 am by SydneyRover »
Alright BS. I'll buy that.

He didn't know where they came from. So presumably when he wrote this...
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
...he was just guessing? He just assumed they came from (what he has previously called) shithouse countries because...

...well, because why? What is it about those 4 that might make a racist assume they come from shithouse countries?

Have some pride in yourself man. If you want to support a racist, support him. Stop debasing yourself by making stupid excuses for him.

I despise racism.

But what I don't like is snowflakes crying racism when it isn't.

It's dangerous and waters down and weakens the word.

I'm not saying trump isn't racist, but crying racism every time he says something you disagree with is weak.

''I despise racism''

An admirable trait, racism is abhorrent and has caused grief across the millennia, William Wilberforce if I remember my schooling such that it was, was a respected local lad (Hull I think) campaigner against slavery.

To give trump the benefit of the doubt is to give him a free pass, he has at his fingertips the best advisors that money can buy, they could brief him on every detail possible to know about those he chooses to abuse but he prefers to abuse them to denigrate them because it suits him. If you want me to believe that you truly hate racism then I think you need to reassess your benchmarks on trump.






Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Trump
« Reply #154 on July 18, 2019, 12:41:57 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
"Trump's not a racist, he just talks and acts like one."

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #155 on July 18, 2019, 01:16:28 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Alright BS. I'll buy that.

He didn't know where they came from. So presumably when he wrote this...
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448
...he was just guessing? He just assumed they came from (what he has previously called) shithouse countries because...

...well, because why? What is it about those 4 that might make a racist assume they come from shithouse countries?

Have some pride in yourself man. If you want to support a racist, support him. Stop debasing yourself by making stupid excuses for him.

I despise racism.

But what I don't like is snowflakes crying racism when it isn't.

It's dangerous and waters down and weakens the word.

I'm not saying trump isn't racist, but crying racism every time he says something you disagree with is weak.

I don't cry "racist" everytime he says "something". I cry "racist" everytime he says something racist. How can telling someone (born in the USA, of a non-white European heritage) to go back to the country they came from be construed as anything other than racist? If that is not racist language then what the hell is?

What do you do? You're not saying Trump isn't a racist, but all you've done here, when he has categorically and unquestionably been throwing racist abuse around, is to make excuses for him. Embarrassing yourself by claiming that it was a slip of the typing finger by Trump, when it's bleeding obvious what he is doing.

So, if this isn't racist, what WOULD be your red line?
« Last Edit: July 18, 2019, 01:22:27 pm by BillyStubbsTears »

Glyn_Wigley

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Re: Trump
« Reply #156 on July 18, 2019, 01:19:55 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Aye, everybody cried 'racist' when he said he wouldn't deal with Kim Darroch any more, didn't they? :silly:

Hounslowrover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #157 on July 18, 2019, 03:08:33 pm by Hounslowrover »
Trump didn't say anything at his last rally when the crowd started chanting ' Send her back' in reference to Ilhan Omar. He's stirring up racism, he said 'Let 'em leave', he has no shame.

SydneyRover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #158 on July 24, 2019, 09:31:26 am by SydneyRover »
Big day for Mueller but a massive day for trump

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #159 on July 24, 2019, 10:00:45 am by BillyStubbsTears »
I think you're overplaying it Sydney.

Mueller's been consistent for months. He's said: there's your evidence Congress - YOU decide if you're going to impeach him.

Can't see anything changing today.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #160 on July 24, 2019, 10:23:03 am by BillyStubbsTears »
This seemed bizarre at first.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1153700010019688448&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicshome.com%2Fnews%2Fworld%2Funited-states%2Fdonald-trump%2Fnews%2F105514%2Fwatch-donald-trump-labels-boris-johnson-britain

"Britain Trump"? I know Trump isn't the sharpest knife in the box, but a 6 year old would know that doesn't make grammatical sense.  "British Trump" or "Britain's Trump", yeah, but "Britain Trump"?

Then it clicked. You've got to think like the speechwriter.

Say it with a Russian accent and it sounds right...

SydneyRover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #161 on July 24, 2019, 10:40:14 am by SydneyRover »
I think you're overplaying it Sydney.

Mueller's been consistent for months. He's said: there's your evidence Congress - YOU decide if you're going to impeach him.

Can't see anything changing today.
It depends whether he wants to ''speak freely'' as Nadler is urging. If he does then there are pizza boxes of information. With only around a third of democrats wanting impeachment at present it wouldn't take much to get that to 50% wouldn't you think?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #162 on July 24, 2019, 11:17:52 am by BillyStubbsTears »
Impeaching Trump would be a disaster. He deserves it, no question. But in the current political environment, it would be a very bad thing to do. There's 30% of Americans who don't believe Trump can do any wrong. And they'd be fed Fox News shit telling them this was the Establishment taking down their man. Impeachment would quite possibly lead to civil unrest in that atmosphere.

The Democrats have to play it by weakening Trump, keeping the white nationalists marginalised and banking on pulling in enough sensible voters to beat Trump next year.

Then, when he's not got the protection of Office, let the prosecutors have him.

SydneyRover

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« Reply #163 on July 30, 2019, 08:57:42 am by SydneyRover »
I thought this a fair assessment.

''Finally, while we would not sink to name-calling in the Trumpian manner – or ruefully point out that he failed to spell the congressman’s name correctly (it’s Cummings, not Cumming) – we would tell the most dishonest man to ever occupy the Oval Office, the mocker of war heroes, the gleeful grabber of women’s private parts, the serial bankrupter of businesses, the useful idiot of Vladimir Putin and the guy who insisted there are “good people” among murderous neo-Nazis that he’s still not fooling most Americans into believing he’s even slightly competent in his current post. Or that he possesses a scintilla of integrity. Better to have some vermin living in your neighborhood than to be one''

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/29/baltimore-sun-editorial-trump

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #164 on August 08, 2019, 08:29:51 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Just when you thought the Trump administration could not be any more abhorrent...

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexLoveWJTV/status/1159264049105973248

wilts rover

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« Reply #165 on August 08, 2019, 08:53:18 pm by wilts rover »
In other news Amnesty International have issued a warning for travelers and visitors to the US 'due to ongoing rampant gun violence'

https://twitter.com/amnesty/status/1159193528787963905

SydneyRover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #166 on August 09, 2019, 12:39:35 am by SydneyRover »

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #167 on August 09, 2019, 07:43:45 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Well here's today's installment.

https://mobile.twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1159511786695069697

That picture bottom left.

Melania holding a baby at El Paso hospital and Trump gurning at the side of her and giving a thumbs up.

That baby's parents were both shot dead by the white supremacist who went on a killing spree in El Paso. The mother was shot as she curled up protecting the baby.

And that vile, disgusting excuse for a human being and his wife use it as a phot-op and they stand there smiling and giving a thumbs up. A f**king thumbs-up.

Beyond words...

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #168 on August 10, 2019, 05:55:59 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032

This stinks to high heaven.

Here's a man who potentially had incriminating evidence on both Trump and Bill Clinton.

The most important inmate in the USA.

He had already attempted suicide once in custody.

He was taken off suicide watch before he (apparently) killed himself.

Filo

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« Reply #169 on August 10, 2019, 05:59:54 pm by Filo »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032

This stinks to high heaven.

Here's a man who potentially had incriminating evidence on both Trump and Bill Clinton.

The most important inmate in the USA.

He had already attempted suicide once in custody.

He was taken off suicide watch before he (apparently) killed himself.

Don’t forget the potential evidence against on of the Royal Family, it seems people in high places get things done to protect their own, and not only in Russia

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #170 on August 11, 2019, 08:35:02 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
And the Leader of the Free World re-tweets this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/w_terrence/status/1160256105399967744

Strange times...

SydneyRover

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Re: Trump
« Reply #171 on August 15, 2019, 02:00:50 pm by SydneyRover »
This is about 2 mths old but very trumpian

''The Saga of Jerry Falwell Jr.’s Bizarre Relationship With a Miami Beach Pool Boy, Explained''

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-jerry-falwell-jr-miami-beach-pool-boy-evang

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #172 on August 15, 2019, 10:20:37 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Yet another low.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162000480681287683

Calling on a foreign Govt to bar elected US politicians from visiting that country.

The damage he is doing by normalising this racist vindictiveness...

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #173 on August 15, 2019, 10:55:54 pm by Glyn_Wigley »
Yet another low.
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1162000480681287683

Calling on a foreign Govt to bar elected US politicians from visiting that country.

The damage he is doing by normalising this racist vindictiveness...


You'd have thought that the Great Donald would have taken the lead and shown Israel how to handle this by banning them from leaving the US!

SydneyRover

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« Reply #174 on August 16, 2019, 07:40:07 am by SydneyRover »
''Hong Kong: Trump calls on Xi to talk to protesters as weekend rallies loom''

I wonder what The Trump would say if Xi had said 'maybe you should sort out your dumb gun laws'?

Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #175 on August 16, 2019, 09:18:14 pm by Glyn_Wigley »

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #176 on August 25, 2019, 08:58:28 am by BillyStubbsTears »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032

This stinks to high heaven.

Here's a man who potentially had incriminating evidence on both Trump and Bill Clinton.

The most important inmate in the USA.

He had already attempted suicide once in custody.

He was taken off suicide watch before he (apparently) killed himself.

Don’t forget the potential evidence against on of the Royal Family, it seems people in high places get things done to protect their own, and not only in Russia

If this is the panicked quality of statement that Prince Andrew is putting out, I'd say he's cacking his Solomons.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1165250086139564032

Like that Twitter thread says, he's basically saying (in tortuously garbled English) "Yes I carried on regularly staying at the house of a paedophile who had been convicted of soliciting a 14 year old girl for sex, but I didn't think he was a bad man."


Glyn_Wigley

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« Reply #177 on August 25, 2019, 11:31:03 am by Glyn_Wigley »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49306032

This stinks to high heaven.

Here's a man who potentially had incriminating evidence on both Trump and Bill Clinton.

The most important inmate in the USA.

He had already attempted suicide once in custody.

He was taken off suicide watch before he (apparently) killed himself.

Don’t forget the potential evidence against on of the Royal Family, it seems people in high places get things done to protect their own, and not only in Russia

If this is the panicked quality of statement that Prince Andrew is putting out, I'd say he's cacking his Solomons.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarinaHyde/status/1165250086139564032

Like that Twitter thread says, he's basically saying (in tortuously garbled English) "Yes I carried on regularly staying at the house of a paedophile who had been convicted of soliciting a 14 year old girl for sex, but I didn't think he was a bad man."



I can't believe that nobody at the Palace told him to steer well clear of someone convicted of paedophilia.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #178 on August 25, 2019, 11:57:07 am by BillyStubbsTears »
And then there's his choice of words. "I am at a loss to be able to explain or understand Mr Epstein's lifestyle."

His what? His lifestyle? His f**king LIFESTYLE?

Let's be clear. Epstein was convicted of soliciting a 14 year old for prostitution. He was under arrest for having had a pipeline of such girls for his rich and powerful friends. And Prince Andrew, in a press communiqué meant to absolve himself of any involvement, calls that a LIFESTYLE?

I'd have thought "disgusting and depraved criminal action" would be a suitable description, but Prince Andrew prefers "lifestyle". Like we're talking about Epstein's choice of personal trainer and his favourite colour of tie.

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #179 on August 25, 2019, 12:06:46 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Meanwhile, it's nice to see that tradition of playing the "Point Out the Biggest Kitson at the G7" game is still being observed.
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