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We have a great choice, a lying conservative, a back stabbing traitor labour leader, and a nobody Liberal wanting you to spend your life savings saving the world. Uh.
Quote from: selby on March 31, 2022, 11:45:18 pm We have a great choice, a lying conservative, a back stabbing traitor labour leader, and a nobody Liberal wanting you to spend your life savings saving the world. Uh.We have a choice between a Tory leader who treats the electorate with contempt and a Labour Party that treats democracy with contempt.
Quote from: Branton Red on April 01, 2022, 08:55:41 pmQuote from: selby on March 31, 2022, 11:45:18 pm We have a great choice, a lying conservative, a back stabbing traitor labour leader, and a nobody Liberal wanting you to spend your life savings saving the world. Uh.We have a choice between a Tory leader who treats the electorate with contempt and a Labour Party that treats democracy with contempt.I did hope, given what's going on in a true fight between democracy and authoritarianism that this sort of intellectually idle stuff that Brexit supporters might fade away.At the last election, the Labour party campaigned in a free and open election, for the support of voters to hold a vote to confirm or challenge the outcome of another vote. And we've still got people saying that is anti-democratic.Just grow up will you?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 01, 2022, 09:33:04 pmQuote from: Branton Red on April 01, 2022, 08:55:41 pmQuote from: selby on March 31, 2022, 11:45:18 pm We have a great choice, a lying conservative, a back stabbing traitor labour leader, and a nobody Liberal wanting you to spend your life savings saving the world. Uh.We have a choice between a Tory leader who treats the electorate with contempt and a Labour Party that treats democracy with contempt.I did hope, given what's going on in a true fight between democracy and authoritarianism that this sort of intellectually idle stuff that Brexit supporters might fade away.At the last election, the Labour party campaigned in a free and open election, for the support of voters to hold a vote to confirm or challenge the outcome of another vote. And we've still got people saying that is anti-democratic.Just grow up will you?The only people who needed to grow up were the ones in Parliament Billy .The electorate gave them the result to the question they were asked .The only people who were intellectually short of understanding that are well documented , Keith included .
TykeAnd the Labour party hasnt questioned that decision You and Johnson and Farage won. It's gone. It's in the past.Move on. And now look at what real contempt for democracy is.
Quote from: Branton Red on April 01, 2022, 08:55:41 pmWe have a choice between a Tory leader who treats the electorate with contempt and a Labour Party that treats democracy with contempt.I did hope, given what's going on in a true fight between democracy and authoritarianism that this sort of intellectually idle stuff that Brexit supporters might fade away.At the last election, the Labour party campaigned in a free and open election, for the support of voters to hold a vote to confirm or challenge the outcome of another vote. And we've still got people saying that is anti-democratic.Just grow up will you?
We have a choice between a Tory leader who treats the electorate with contempt and a Labour Party that treats democracy with contempt.
Branton.If you really insist that standing in a General Election on a ticket that asked people to support a vote is anti-democratic, I truly despair for the prospects for sensible discussion. Insisting on that, in my opinion, devalues the whole concept of democracy.
Starmer was on the bbc news this morning.When he talked about the energy price hike he very sensibly talked about imposing a windfall tax on the energy companies who had made unforeseen extra profits and that the Labour Party would give £600 to some households to help to pay the higher bills.A brilliant thing to say IMO.He was then asked how the LP would help people in the following year.Starmer then spent a couple of minutes telling us how, as the Opposition, it was his job to challenge decisions made by the government but he didn’t explain what they would do to help people beyond the £600 that he would give this year.He was asked time and again to answer the question but appeared to get agitated and the interview was ended.It was noticeable that he didn’t appear to have a forward plan.I was wondering how he could attract people to vote for him if people don’t know what his plans are.
Then what on earth do you mean by saying the Labour party treats democracy with contempt?
Leave campaigned on leaving the Single Market and Customs Union - the majority of the benefits from Brexit they claimed derived from this.
Where on the referendum voting slip did it mention leaving the Single Market or the Customs Union?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on April 02, 2022, 07:24:29 pmWhere on the referendum voting slip did it mention leaving the Single Market or the Customs Union?Hi Glyn.My answer to this question is implicit in my previous post on this thread so I won't repeat myself.May I ask re your quote "I knew leaving the Single Market was the single most damaging prospect of them all". Was this one of the reasons you presumably voted Remain?
I don't care what you think is 'implicit'. Leave didn't campaign on leaving Single Market at all, so everything you say after the assertion they did is based on a false premise. The leaflet they sent to everybody didn't mention the Single Market once. Hardly at the forefront of their campaign, was it?