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Exactly RD. The narrow minded amongst us see covid as a virus that will either kill you, make you very poorly , a little poorly or not poorly at all. And nothing else. They have little or no concept of the big picture. And how everything affects everything else.There is a very fine line in society, and it’s getting finer, between societal calmness and a complete and utter breakdown of what we know as normal. There are glimmers of it in Europe right now. Rioting on the streets. A breakdown in civil obedience. This is nothing compared to what could become reality.. Imagine a uk where you mum or dad has no ambulance to come and pick them up when they have had a stroke or heart attack. No one to come and save their life. Then what? Everything we take for granted goes out of the window. Maslows heirarchy of needs. Life becomes about survival and not a lot else. We have seen what happens in our so called developed country when there is a little perceived shortage of fuel. Shortage of pasta or toilet rolls. Multiply this by 100 and you get some where near what a complete breakdown of society means. And it would not take too much to do this. It would start with people literally dying at home in the street with no one to care for them, except bag them up and take them to the nearest morgue. This would lead to mass civil unrest at perceived failings by the govts.The rest does not bear thinking about.
So far CDH,You've claimed covid is not dangerous. You've claimed its a flu virus. You've claimed the vacinnes don't work.You've claimed the vacinnes don't prevent transmission. You've claimed the media are exaggerating everything.You've claimed China is promoting group think. You've claimed westerners must accept a new relationship with the prospect of death. If you had one serious point to make, then it might be taken seriously. As it is you are claiming everything is wrong and there are conspiracies everywhere. It is difficult not to conclude, you're in denial.
They had a lockdown because they were persuaded to by the Chinese and thus completely going against pandemic planning in Western Europe. Once the pictures of the situation in Bergamo (grossly exaggerated by the media) were beamed across the world, other countries followed due to panic and groupthink (apart from Sweden) and before we knew it, we were following a Chinese policy on virus control. Now it has become the norm to lock people away to manage a flu virus.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 12:58:38 pmThey had a lockdown because they were persuaded to by the Chinese and thus completely going against pandemic planning in Western Europe. Once the pictures of the situation in Bergamo (grossly exaggerated by the media) were beamed across the world, other countries followed due to panic and groupthink (apart from Sweden) and before we knew it, we were following a Chinese policy on virus control. Now it has become the norm to lock people away to manage a flu virus. You stupid, stupid man.
BREAKING NEWSBelgium, has in the last hr confirmed it’s first case of b 1.1.529.A traveller that has come in from Egypt. It is coming people. The traveller returned on 11 nov. First symptoms 22 nov. So he won’t be the only one with it.
We seem to have reached a point CDH where all you can offer, is that we should all embrace death.I think I'd rather take my chances with a vacinne, thanks.
Pfizer./bio tech have announced it will be two weeks before they have fully assessed if current vaccines are any good against b1.1.529.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 01:51:11 pmWe seem to have reached a point CDH where all you can offer, is that we should all embrace death.I think I'd rather take my chances with a vacinne, thanks.Yes, and some would rather take their chances with the virus but are constantly vilified for having this view. A 12 year old for example. Why the f**k do they need a vaccine when their immune system will do a much better job, be less dangerous and give them, and the general population greater immunity? Keep being scared old men. You can't cheat nature in the end.
Quote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 02:28:18 pmPfizer./bio tech have announced it will be two weeks before they have fully assessed if current vaccines are any good against b1.1.529.Yes. Then the people who have recently had their boosters can now have a booster for this variant................And so on it goes.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on November 26, 2021, 01:43:25 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 12:58:38 pmThey had a lockdown because they were persuaded to by the Chinese and thus completely going against pandemic planning in Western Europe. Once the pictures of the situation in Bergamo (grossly exaggerated by the media) were beamed across the world, other countries followed due to panic and groupthink (apart from Sweden) and before we knew it, we were following a Chinese policy on virus control. Now it has become the norm to lock people away to manage a flu virus. You stupid, stupid man.It is irrelevant what insults you trade, as we are all going to die anyway in the end. Your decomposition will be exactly the same as mine and the earth can then be reclaimed by the natural world. Humans aren't part of the natural world. We are a blight. A scourge. A parasitic cancer. Old men wanting men, women and children to stick to rules and be injected with vaccines so that they can have a safer life. I'm not a celebrity but get me the hell out of here anyway.
Perhaps she was clinically vulnerable. Does your cynicism and complete lack of empathy know no bounds?
Quote from: ravenrover on November 26, 2021, 01:18:24 pmQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 11:50:26 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:49:28 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:36:53 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:27:20 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.1. I have M.E and therefore Long Covid would be a walk in the park. If you know any M.E sufferers then you'd understand. All Long Covid is is another form of post viral syndrome. There are plenty out there but yet only Long Covid matters apparently. Not bothered at all by Long Covid. 2. There are no medications for my 'conditions'. The support i have received from the NHS has been none existent. 3. The NHS treat people who play football and break their legs. They treat idiots who go climbing mountains or go hiking in the Peak District using a mobile phone as navigation. They treat alcoholics. Smokers. They treat people with all sorts of self inflicted or avoidable injuries caused by irresponsible people. Yet you say they should make those who choose to remain unjabbed or who resist restrictions should not receive treatment?4. I believe it is you who should be in prison my friend lolI did not suggest the nhs take such a stance. It’s called supposition. I genuinely feel for you suffering ME. Do you know anyone with ME and Long Covid though? This really should be a consideration for you. Anyone with ME who contracts covid is at moderate risk of developing complications. So whilst you think covid would be a “walk in the park “ compared to ME, I fear you are not considering the implications of ME WITH Covid.I have considered the implications of having M.E and Covid. I can't change the fact that there is a virus knocking about that we are all going to get can i? If i get Covid then i either survive or i don't. Pretty simple really. So if you caught it and didn't survive would that bother anyone else? Your family ?Yes obviously but we understand that. We can't cheat death forever. For some reason people in the West cannot discuss or accept dying as an inevitable consequence of living and cannot accept the timing of death may not be convenient.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 11:50:26 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:49:28 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:36:53 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:27:20 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.1. I have M.E and therefore Long Covid would be a walk in the park. If you know any M.E sufferers then you'd understand. All Long Covid is is another form of post viral syndrome. There are plenty out there but yet only Long Covid matters apparently. Not bothered at all by Long Covid. 2. There are no medications for my 'conditions'. The support i have received from the NHS has been none existent. 3. The NHS treat people who play football and break their legs. They treat idiots who go climbing mountains or go hiking in the Peak District using a mobile phone as navigation. They treat alcoholics. Smokers. They treat people with all sorts of self inflicted or avoidable injuries caused by irresponsible people. Yet you say they should make those who choose to remain unjabbed or who resist restrictions should not receive treatment?4. I believe it is you who should be in prison my friend lolI did not suggest the nhs take such a stance. It’s called supposition. I genuinely feel for you suffering ME. Do you know anyone with ME and Long Covid though? This really should be a consideration for you. Anyone with ME who contracts covid is at moderate risk of developing complications. So whilst you think covid would be a “walk in the park “ compared to ME, I fear you are not considering the implications of ME WITH Covid.I have considered the implications of having M.E and Covid. I can't change the fact that there is a virus knocking about that we are all going to get can i? If i get Covid then i either survive or i don't. Pretty simple really. So if you caught it and didn't survive would that bother anyone else? Your family ?
Quote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:49:28 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:36:53 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:27:20 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.1. I have M.E and therefore Long Covid would be a walk in the park. If you know any M.E sufferers then you'd understand. All Long Covid is is another form of post viral syndrome. There are plenty out there but yet only Long Covid matters apparently. Not bothered at all by Long Covid. 2. There are no medications for my 'conditions'. The support i have received from the NHS has been none existent. 3. The NHS treat people who play football and break their legs. They treat idiots who go climbing mountains or go hiking in the Peak District using a mobile phone as navigation. They treat alcoholics. Smokers. They treat people with all sorts of self inflicted or avoidable injuries caused by irresponsible people. Yet you say they should make those who choose to remain unjabbed or who resist restrictions should not receive treatment?4. I believe it is you who should be in prison my friend lolI did not suggest the nhs take such a stance. It’s called supposition. I genuinely feel for you suffering ME. Do you know anyone with ME and Long Covid though? This really should be a consideration for you. Anyone with ME who contracts covid is at moderate risk of developing complications. So whilst you think covid would be a “walk in the park “ compared to ME, I fear you are not considering the implications of ME WITH Covid.I have considered the implications of having M.E and Covid. I can't change the fact that there is a virus knocking about that we are all going to get can i? If i get Covid then i either survive or i don't. Pretty simple really.
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 10:36:53 amQuote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:27:20 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.1. I have M.E and therefore Long Covid would be a walk in the park. If you know any M.E sufferers then you'd understand. All Long Covid is is another form of post viral syndrome. There are plenty out there but yet only Long Covid matters apparently. Not bothered at all by Long Covid. 2. There are no medications for my 'conditions'. The support i have received from the NHS has been none existent. 3. The NHS treat people who play football and break their legs. They treat idiots who go climbing mountains or go hiking in the Peak District using a mobile phone as navigation. They treat alcoholics. Smokers. They treat people with all sorts of self inflicted or avoidable injuries caused by irresponsible people. Yet you say they should make those who choose to remain unjabbed or who resist restrictions should not receive treatment?4. I believe it is you who should be in prison my friend lolI did not suggest the nhs take such a stance. It’s called supposition. I genuinely feel for you suffering ME. Do you know anyone with ME and Long Covid though? This really should be a consideration for you. Anyone with ME who contracts covid is at moderate risk of developing complications. So whilst you think covid would be a “walk in the park “ compared to ME, I fear you are not considering the implications of ME WITH Covid.
Quote from: normal rules on November 26, 2021, 10:27:20 amQuote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.1. I have M.E and therefore Long Covid would be a walk in the park. If you know any M.E sufferers then you'd understand. All Long Covid is is another form of post viral syndrome. There are plenty out there but yet only Long Covid matters apparently. Not bothered at all by Long Covid. 2. There are no medications for my 'conditions'. The support i have received from the NHS has been none existent. 3. The NHS treat people who play football and break their legs. They treat idiots who go climbing mountains or go hiking in the Peak District using a mobile phone as navigation. They treat alcoholics. Smokers. They treat people with all sorts of self inflicted or avoidable injuries caused by irresponsible people. Yet you say they should make those who choose to remain unjabbed or who resist restrictions should not receive treatment?4. I believe it is you who should be in prison my friend lol
Quote from: ColinDouglasHandshake on November 26, 2021, 09:40:14 amQuote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison. Re point 1. Don’t get too obsessed with covid killing people. There are plenty of young healthy people who have had it and suffering long term affects. Long covid. Debilitating. Re point 2. I understand from a previous post that you have a disorder and as such you may be medicated. If, good forbid, you got poorly through covid, who would you turn to? Your choice you say. What if the nhs chose not to treat people who they classed as irresponsible. The very organisation that I have no doubt you will have received support from previously and May still do? Perhaps you would just advocate an every man for himself policy? In which case……….Point 5. I think prison may be a good option for you.
Quote from: River Don on November 26, 2021, 09:31:02 amI'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.Dear oh dear. 1. I am not a danger to myself because the virus doesn't kill 99.9% of people, let alone many people in their 40's. Therefore the risk to me is negligible even without a vaccine. 2. Even if i was at a greatly increased risk from Covid, it is still my choice whether i wish to dance with danger or not. Nobody elses. My body, my choice. 3. Vaccinated people still pass on Covid to others. The delta variant for example shows next to no difference in transmissability between the jabbed and unjabbed. Therefore, jabbed people are just as much a risk to others as the unjabbed. Not sure why people don't understand this simple concept. 4. Even if the vaccine 100% stopped Covid. It is still the choice of the individual whether to have a vaccine injected into their body. 5. I am very anti social yes. By choice. If i wasn't then i'd probably be in prison.
I'm sorry CDH but the benefits of vacinnation are clear.In not being upto date with your vacinnes you are a danger to yourself and others. It's simply antisocial behaviour.
Guys, Guys, GUYS!! CDH is nothing but a narcissistic f**kwit who's playing you along for his own gratification and you're all piling in to slake his thirst. Ignore him and he'll crawl back under his stone.