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Hopefully we can keep him fit for next season. Could have a big part to play if he's still here.
Buzzing for him, think we should give Saunders some credit aswell for giving him a chance. Hope he can get us goals like he got us when he had him on loan all that time ago, sounds like we just couldnt score tonight
Quote from: \"Dare to dream!\" post=230037Buzzing for him, think we should give Saunders some credit aswell for giving him a chance. Hope he can get us goals like he got us when he had him on loan all that time ago, sounds like we just couldnt score tonight He's been available for selection for several weeks- shame that Saunders didn't include him earlier. Ditto Keegan.
Quote from: \"pubteam\" post=230040Hopefully we can keep him fit for next season. Could have a big part to play if he's still here.He left Preston when they were relegated, why would he stay with us?
Quote from: \"The Red Baron\" post=230097Quote from: \"Dare to dream!\" post=230037Buzzing for him, think we should give Saunders some credit aswell for giving him a chance. Hope he can get us goals like he got us when he had him on loan all that time ago, sounds like we just couldnt score tonight He's been available for selection for several weeks- shame that Saunders didn't include him earlier. Ditto Keegan.Hammer on the nail and what about Robert ? Can we really say that DS has used the personnel at his disposal to maximum effect......I think not.
I don't particularly want to drag Robert into the argument because the first time I saw him look like he could have anything to offer was in the latter stages of the Millwall game- so he was hardly shining in a brilliant performance!However, what have we all said is missing from the side? A midfielder who can add a bit of bite and a striker who can score goals. Keegan and Brown may not be the answer, but tthe fact they were available means they might have been worth trying earlier- at the expense of players (e.g. Oster and Hayter) who have been tried before and have not provided what we needed.Anyway, this \"excellent run of form\" must have passed me by. Yes, we went undefeated for five games, which would have been fine if we were in the sort of position Millwall or Peterborough were in- not wishing to get dragged into a relegation dogfight. Sorry, but we've been needing to play catch-up since the first month of the season, and the only way you do that is by winning back to back games. Three wins in five might be excellent form- one isn't when you're where we are.Finally- football's a squad game and unlike last season, when we were struggling to get 11 on the pitch at one point- we have around 30 professionals on our books. DS himself said he thought Derby might have been one game too far for some (presumably Millwall was two games too far!) Rather than flogging the same 11-14 players until they play badly, why not anticipate fatigue and rotate the squad? Keegan and Brown could have been useful additions BEFORE the wheels began to come off.
he left preston because he is crocked and they dident want him so he decided to join the rest home for crocked footballers where they can come pick up their wages and do nothing else, we never put a unhealty footballer down.
Quote from: \"The Red Baron\" post=230134I don't particularly want to drag Robert into the argument because the first time I saw him look like he could have anything to offer was in the latter stages of the Millwall game- so he was hardly shining in a brilliant performance!However, what have we all said is missing from the side? A midfielder who can add a bit of bite and a striker who can score goals. Keegan and Brown may not be the answer, but tthe fact they were available means they might have been worth trying earlier- at the expense of players (e.g. Oster and Hayter) who have been tried before and have not provided what we needed.Anyway, this \"excellent run of form\" must have passed me by. Yes, we went undefeated for five games, which would have been fine if we were in the sort of position Millwall or Peterborough were in- not wishing to get dragged into a relegation dogfight. Sorry, but we've been needing to play catch-up since the first month of the season, and the only way you do that is by winning back to back games. Three wins in five might be excellent form- one isn't when you're where we are.Finally- football's a squad game and unlike last season, when we were struggling to get 11 on the pitch at one point- we have around 30 professionals on our books. DS himself said he thought Derby might have been one game too far for some (presumably Millwall was two games too far!) Rather than flogging the same 11-14 players until they play badly, why not anticipate fatigue and rotate the squad? Keegan and Brown could have been useful additions BEFORE the wheels began to come off.The millwall game was 2 games too far that's why we made 3/4 changes for that fixture. Nobody was calling for players to be dropped after the forest, west ham reading games. You mention oster but he has only started the last 2 games, and to be fair has played well in both. We've had 2 poor performances out of the last 12/13 games. We miss a goals corer, maybe brown should be ahead of hayter, but until recently not many people would have said that. Certainly not before the Leeds game
On Chris Brown staying, I'd say he is in a completely different situation this season compared to last. He's been out injured for ages and I doubt quite the commodity that he may have been last season at Preston. He's still not consolidated a position in the Championship as a consistent striker so not on lots of wish lists. And he's contracted to us so unless he's got a clause in there saying he has an option to go if he wants if we're relegated to League 1 he should still be at DRFC next season. I think he could be a very good frontman in League 1 and give us a chance of a top third finish. I think we're going to need him and a nucleus of the present core squad to make a fist of next season. A top half finish would be a very realistic target. I wouldn't underestimate the job our club has got to do in rebuilding after the last 18 months 'wobbles'. Stick with it, it'll be fine.
Quote from: \"hoolahoop\" post=230098Quote from: \"The Red Baron\" post=230097Quote from: \"Dare to dream!\" post=230037Buzzing for him, think we should give Saunders some credit aswell for giving him a chance. Hope he can get us goals like he got us when he had him on loan all that time ago, sounds like we just couldnt score tonight He's been available for selection for several weeks- shame that Saunders didn't include him earlier. Ditto Keegan.Hammer on the nail and what about Robert ? Can we really say that DS has used the personnel at his disposal to maximum effect......I think not. Hang on a minute. There's a lot of wonderful hindsight going on from TRB and Hoola here.The players that Saunders was selecting had an excellent run of form earlier in the month, going undefeated for 5 games, handing Forest one of only two defeats in 9 games and picking up excellent and unexpected points against three promotion chasers. Prior to the Derby match, we were in form that was looking set to lead us to safety.So, let's be straight here. What are you suggesting? That Saunders should ignored the perfomances that had given us that run? That he should have anticipated that we were going to have dreadful performances against Derby & Millwall and make wholesale changes? I don't remember you demanding that at the time.He made changes last night and we got a good point. With a bit of luck, it could well have been three. I have my own criticisms of Saunders, but it's going way over the top to look back and say \"Well of COURSE he should have brought Robert, Keegan and Brown in several weeks ago.\"
I think its fair to say had he made changes and we lost or played like we had then everyone would of said why change the side.