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Can we not just judge him on his performances?
Quote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 12:30:45 pmQuote from: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 12:28:41 pmI am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.Has this been complemented by a search for a striker we would sign permanently?
Quote from: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 12:28:41 pmI am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.
I am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?
I’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teams
Quote from: Copps is Magic on August 16, 2019, 12:33:00 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 12:30:45 pmQuote from: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 12:28:41 pmI am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?Doubt it, the only name I heard was this lad from Spurs, and is certainly one of the ones DM has spent along time pursuing.Has this been complemented by a search for a striker we would sign permanently?Yes, it has. I heard a few names, but for one reason or another we haven't been able to complete. That doesn't mean we won't though.
While he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,
SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 12:06:50 pmWhile he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,Not at all...this might just be a “stop gap” loan...To take the pressure off whilst we take our time ( 2-3 weeks) to get the existing deals over the line, .......This isn’t a fact, but I doubt our club would just ditch those targeted just because we have brought someone else in....I hope
Quote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.
Quote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.
Quote from: sha66y on August 16, 2019, 12:58:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 12:06:50 pmWhile he looks a decent signing, we're going to be in the exact same position agian this time next year,Not at all...this might just be a “stop gap” loan...To take the pressure off whilst we take our time ( 2-3 weeks) to get the existing deals over the line, .......This isn’t a fact, but I doubt our club would just ditch those targeted just because we have brought someone else in....I hope not for a season long loan its not a stop gap
Quote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?
Give the lad a chance. The general consensus among the Sunderland fans that I know, and who watch them regularly, is that Will Grigg has been an absolute waste of money and done nothing. They think Wyke looks decent if the ball is played into his feet but because he's a big unit, they tend to pump it long and he's been made to look poor. When they played us at the SOL it was his best game by some distance. Very few of them are convinced by Jack Ross because of his inability, Maja aside, to get anything out of his forwards.I'm sure everyone would have considered Grigg or Wyke to be an excellent signing had either of them come in and Sunderland would have been pleased to get rid.It remains to be seen if he is the answer. Hopefully as has been alluded to this is a loan signing to buy time as a precursor to getting someone in full time but if not and he does well then great.
Quote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:19:10 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??
Quote from: jmt23 on August 16, 2019, 12:43:19 pmI’m looking forward to how this pans out. It is becoming clearer that DM wants speed and skill, and is trying to bring in the best young talent he has seen.I am imagining: Ennis. Sterling Sadlier May. Copps. TaylorThe pace and skill should be frightening to most teamsso with a back four in there you’ll not bother with Whiteman of Sheif?
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:24:38 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:19:10 pmQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan?Do you think our current recruitment strategy is planning for the long term?Answering my question with a question? Are you a politician? Again, do you honestly believe our Board doesn’t have a long term plan??The evidence suggests they don't.
Quote from: Dutch Uncle on August 16, 2019, 12:28:41 pmI am guessing that this means we won’t be signing O’Hare on loan from Villa?Have we reached a loan limit, Dutch?I liked the look of O'Hare.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on August 16, 2019, 01:16:09 pmQuote from: redarmy82 on August 16, 2019, 01:12:01 pmQuote from: GazLaz on August 16, 2019, 01:11:23 pmQuote from: silent majority on August 16, 2019, 01:01:58 pmQuote from: wing commander on August 16, 2019, 12:37:48 pm SM Genuine question mate. Are you not concerned with the direction the club is going in with regards are own player development..I appreciate we've got the development squad but surely we cant just keep signing a squad full of loans players and starting again every season..There has to be some more emphasis into buying our own players at least the time cost and effort of developing them reaps some rewards... You know I've always supported this board from day 1 but this sticking plaster strategy just doesn't sit well with me...I'm not overly concerned. Yes it could be better, but circumstances have forced our hand to a certain extent.What I have confidence in though, is that the backbone of the club, and the resources available to run the day to day operations have never been better.Who sets the footballing strategy for the season Martin, is that Gavin? I don’t mean tactics, I mean the long term plan.There is no long term plan. That's quite obvious.Do you honestly believe that our Board, successful business people who are also Rovers supporters don’t have, and haven’t thought about producing, a long term plan? the top man isn't a football fan it's not his bag at all