Disorder in Knowsley

[SydneyRover]

''Hundreds in Tunisia protest against president’s anti-migrant clampdown''

''Hundreds of people in Tunisia’s capital took to the streets on Saturday to protest over the president’s anti-migrant clampdown''

''On Tuesday, amid wider moves against his critics, President Kais Saied accused undocumented sub-Saharan migrants of being part of a plot to change the country’s character, bringing longstanding racial tensions to the surface.

Since the president’s comments, there have been reports across social media of mob violence, with accounts of crowds storming the houses of migrants and forcibly evicting the occupants''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/25/hundreds-in-tunisia-protest-against-presidents-anti-migrant-clampdown

This has a somewhat familiar ring to it.

[ncRover]

At the risk of sounding like an old guy, there's something about the left-right balance of politics that young people don't get, because they have only lived in the current era. It's this.

It's not always been like this.

You have lived in an era where the Overton Window has been way over to the right. You've been told relentlessly that anything to the Left of that is a dangerous gamble and that left wing socio-economic  ideas don't work.

It's not always been like that.

60 years ago, the balance was much further to the Left. And, broadly, it worked.

Thatcher brought an absolute revolutionq that tipped all that up. And like all successful revolutionaries, her side rewrote history so that everything before her now is automatically assumed to be awful.

It wasn't like that.

This person gets it.

https://twitter.com/oldtrotter/status/1629402327277862917?s=20

You could say that part of the conservative psyche is being slow to accept change. Since 1962 the average UK income (inflation adjusted) has risen by 169%. In that time, free market capitalism has enabled the biggest and fastest technological boom and increase in living standards that human history has ever seen.

Capitalism has allowed this technology to be cheaper and more affordable for poorer people around the world and has improved their lives no end. It is short sighted to just look at wealth equality. The 1968 book “The Population Bomb” predicted famine due to overpopulation. Capitalism enabling innovation has since made the prediction look ridiculous.

I understand your point, and I am not advocating for an extreme libertarianism with no government spending. Tony Blair (despite his current creepy modern authoritarian ideas) understood in the 90s that the left focused too much on how to share the pie rather than say making a bigger and better tasting one.

I think the conservatives have been to captured by their slow-to-accept-change elderly vote and this is leading to stagnation. With focusing on brexit and not building enough houses for young families. I would also remove the 2 child cap on child benefit. If we don’t get our fertility rate up we are looking at decades of economic hardship and labour shortages in the future. Especially in the face of the opposition leader wanting net zero by 2030.

[SydneyRover]

so why can't people afford to pay their energy bills, and why are wages subsidised, the flag carriers for the free-marketeers have rule for 13 years+

This is my take, politics is hard work therefore there is no requirement to reinvent the wheel, if the basics are right correct then normal service can be resumed. As long as the gov' of the day can respond to variations big or small then it doesn't have to be overcomplicated.

When government's try to square the circle and take advantage things get out of shape, you can't expect the majority to sit there and be told all is well when they see the opposite. If everyone benefits and those in need are looked after then there is no need to create turmoil and unrest to get voted in.

Why can't people afford to pay their bills? there is plenty of money around it's just in the wrong pockets.

[SydneyRover]

And right on cue we have this ................

''Rishi Sunak’s government is hiding £28bn of “stealth cuts” to public services over the next five years, according to a report warning that a renewed austerity drive at next month’s budget would further damage the economy''

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/feb/27/uk-government-is-hiding-28bn-of-stealth-cuts-to-public-services-says-report

tory ideology knows no bounds

[tyke1962]

''Hundreds in Tunisia protest against president’s anti-migrant clampdown''

''Hundreds of people in Tunisia’s capital took to the streets on Saturday to protest over the president’s anti-migrant clampdown''

''On Tuesday, amid wider moves against his critics, President Kais Saied accused undocumented sub-Saharan migrants of being part of a plot to change the country’s character, bringing longstanding racial tensions to the surface.

Since the president’s comments, there have been reports across social media of mob violence, with accounts of crowds storming the houses of migrants and forcibly evicting the occupants''

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/25/hundreds-in-tunisia-protest-against-presidents-anti-migrant-clampdown

This has a somewhat familiar ring to it.

Indeed Sydney , closer to home than you might like to believe .


https://youtu.be/wBHqXkz8D9Y

[SydneyRover]

Maybe if you explain the problem in simple terms how it arose and what  and how you think it should be fixed it would be a good start tyke.

You have to also take into consideration the restraints that brexit imposes on all governments going forward by those that still support brexit.

[ncRover]

so why can't people afford to pay their energy bills, and why are wages subsidised, the flag carriers for the free-marketeers have rule for 13 years+

This is my take, politics is hard work therefore there is no requirement to reinvent the wheel, if the basics are right correct then normal service can be resumed. As long as the gov' of the day can respond to variations big or small then it doesn't have to be overcomplicated.

When government's try to square the circle and take advantage things get out of shape, you can't expect the majority to sit there and be told all is well when they see the opposite. If everyone benefits and those in need are looked after then there is no need to create turmoil and unrest to get voted in.

Why can't people afford to pay their bills? there is plenty of money around it's just in the wrong pockets.

A valid question.

Inflation from an unstable world shocking the economy. It will come back around.

No amount of further government support can reduce the price of something as that is intrinsically tied to its value, of course.