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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DonnyOsmond on September 17, 2017, 05:13:39 pm
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Crap.
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Should have been took off instead of Williams
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How he stayed on instead of AW (especially on a booking) il never know.
He was awful.
Don't agree at all with the d**kheads cheering him completing a pass and getting substituted.
He basically got us promoted last season and deserves better.
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Ironic how we tried to bin Williams pre season league 2, and now he's a starter.
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Seems untouchable, a shadow of the player from last season
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Williams has gone altogether, it's like playing with 10 men.
Marquis was crap but always likely to score. Marquis would've scored the 2 chances Williams had
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Williams has gone altogether, it's like playing with 10 men.
Marquis was crap but always likely to score. Marquis would've scored the 2 chances Williams had
No he wouldn't. Marquis has missed plenty similar to the second half Williams chance so how can you say that?
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He might not have got in position to do so though. Williams did.
Neither had their best games. Marquis didn't deserve the sarcastic applause and booing. Williams doesn't deserve this vilification either.
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Williams has gone altogether, it's like playing with 10 men.
Marquis was crap but always likely to score. Marquis would've scored the 2 chances Williams had
Williams got a raw deal today with that first half hoofball, then taken off when we started to pass quicly to feet
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I don't recall marquis ever missing the target like that when clean through. And the chance he missed in the first half, John Ryan would've reacted quicker
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May and Mandeville on Wednesday for me.
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I don't recall marquis ever missing the target like that when clean through. And the chance he missed in the first half, John Ryan would've reacted quicker
Your changing your argument. First it was "Marquis would have scored it". Now Your suggesting he wouldn't have missed the target like that?
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May and Mandeville on Wednesday for me.
Mandeville is possibly the slowest player I've ever seen
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I don't recall marquis ever missing the target like that when clean through. And the chance he missed in the first half, John Ryan would've reacted quicker
Your changing your argument. First it was "Marquis would have scored it". Now Your suggesting he wouldn't have missed the target like that?
In my opinion he would in your opinion he wouldn't
It's not difficult
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I'd play the kids like Arsenal normally do , this lot don't decerve to take part in a high prestige game .
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I don't recall marquis ever missing the target like that when clean through. And the chance he missed in the first half, John Ryan would've reacted quicker
Your changing your argument. First it was "Marquis would have scored it". Now Your suggesting he wouldn't have missed the target like that?
In my opinion he would in your opinion he wouldn't
It's not difficult
Of course it's not difficult. Marquis has missed chances like that. So assuming he would've scored is a bit of a guess. It's simple actually.
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May and Mandeville on Wednesday for me.
Mandeville is possibly the slowest player I've ever seen
One of our 3 most creative players.
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#lowbar
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He's also scored many goals like that so assuming he wouldn't is a bit of a guess.
Very simple
Anyhow the closest we came to scoring was marquis, he's the only one scoring this season even though he's out of form.
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I don't recall marquis ever missing the target like that when clean through.
Short memory , in the last home game Marquis was gifted a free shot at goal and managed to hit it straight at the Keeper.
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Thought he had another poor game, somewhat surprised when DF brought off Williams first.
COYR
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Marquis hardly looked like scoring at all, so an odd comment Dickos, and I'm often finding myself agreeing with what you say. He went close once but other than that time, did he even have the ball in the penalty box once? A shadow of the man we loved last season.
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He hit the inside of the post
Can't get much closer to scoring
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I don't think either striker are at their best receiving the ball with their backs to goal and having to create chances . I believe their strength is attacking the ball in the box which is where we are lacking at the moment. We have no width, no one turning the defence around , nothing coming in for the attackers to run on to. All our play looks pretty, in front of the opposing team but there is no penetration, no space creation and making the strikers look ordinary. My opinion
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Says it all when we end the game with a striker plucked from non-league & one brought through the ranks, our frailties are plain to see all over the pitch. Looking at this league now, we haven't brought in enough quality during the summer in several positions to compete.
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He hit the inside of the post
Can't get much closer to scoring
Which I acknowledged, but as I already said, that one moment aside did he even touch the ball in the penalty box? It's a fair question.
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Says it all when we end the game with a striker plucked from non-league & one brought through the ranks, our frailties are plain to see all over the pitch.
What?
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Should have been took off instead of Williams
You are joking he should have gone in the summer but his wages stopped that happening. John is not playing well but he still better than Williams
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He hit the inside of the post
Can't get much closer to scoring
Which I acknowledged, but as I already said, that one moment aside did he even touch the ball in the penalty box? It's a fair question.
No because he's trying to do what the midfield should. If I was him I'd stop around the box and let the pathetic midfield do their work.
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Marquis was dreadful, again.
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Steve, agreed the midfield have been poor in the last few games.Bishop did a job on Copps,and Rowe is out on the left wing,Kongolo was poor in the first half,but was a little better in the second,the rest of them carry no threat at all.
Teams have got our number,they scored after 10 minutes,from a corner after attacking Blair down the right flank.In them 10 minutes every goal kick,set piece and attack were down our right flank,which consists of a young rucky player and a converted winger who is poor in defence.It has been repeated in most games this season.
I posted last week that we had to match them in midfield and not be sloppy with the ball,we didnt and paid the price.Bishop ran the show for the third game against us,and did it by being cute in the tackle and closing our space down.We have nobody that can do that job.
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anybody is better than (stoke) Mandeville. Kid is never a striker.
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Marquis had a bit of a nightmare at times, however we carried even less threat as a team after he went off. Even when he's playing badly (and he did today - he'll know it) he at least makes a nuisance of himself, shows for the ball and gives the opposition something to think about. After he went off we offered utterly no threat at all.
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I don't care how bad they're playing. Cheering other players names when one goes off or booing them leaving the field won't help
Neither will singing for Marosi when Lawlor has the ball.
Remember calling for Marosi really improved Etheridge. Sorry it fxxxed his confidence and probably his career. Let's be a bit more supportive during games at least. To me it's obvious that DF is insisting on playing a certain way which isn't working. The players appear scared to express themselves. If that's the case it's all down to him. If it's not we are obviously not good enough. At the end of the day the board have supported him. Hopefully Baudrey and Mccullough will be back soon and Houhjton will be the player he was last season.
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I don't care how bad they're playing. Cheering other players names when one goes off or booing them leaving the field won't help
Neither will singing for Marosi when Lawlor has the ball.
Remember calling for Marosi really improved Etheridge. Sorry it fxxxed his confidence and probably his career. Let's be a bit more supportive during games at least. To me it's obvious that DF is insisting on playing a certain way which isn't working. The players appear scared to express themselves. If that's the case it's all down to him. If it's not we are obviously not good enough. At the end of the day the board have supported him. Hopefully Baudrey and Mccullough will be back soon and Houhjton will be the player he was last season.
Out fans are shit.
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Our manager is shit.
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The performance today deserved to be boo'd.
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Seen far worse, thought 2nd half we were unlucky
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No it didnt Mr Frost,we didnt score and very rarely looked like doing so,but I didnt see us pack in trying,or lack of effort.We got beaten by a more solid,experienced team,if you cannot see or accept that,and think it is worth booing,dont go to the Arsenal game mate, because it could be a long night for you,your Knowledge of football may cause you to have a sore throat booing all night.
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No it didnt Mr Frost,we didnt score and very rarely looked like doing so,but I didnt see us pack in trying,or lack of effort.We got beaten by a more solid,experienced team,if you cannot see or accept that,and think it is worth booing,dont go to the Arsenal game mate, because it could be a long night for you,your Knowledge of football may cause you to have a sore throat booing all night.
Do one pal, you haven't got a clue.
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There is no argument
All as bad as each other
Shooting practice please ,they had 1 shot on target
Down to the manager now I think?
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He hit the inside of the post
Can't get much closer to scoring
Which I acknowledged, but as I already said, that one moment aside did he even touch the ball in the penalty box? It's a fair question.
No because he's trying to do what the midfield should. If I was him I'd stop around the box and let the pathetic midfield do their work.
Indeed. Last season Marquis was finding space to run into and getting good service = goals. This season he's chasing the ball = not in the right place to score goals.
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No I have not got a clue how to get down to your level Frostie,Whats the one you want me to do?
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Seen far worse, thought 2nd half we were unlucky
I thought we were unlucky in both halves..........
...Having to sit and watch that shite.
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Marquis had a bit of a nightmare at times, however we carried even less threat as a team after he went off. Even when he's playing badly (and he did today - he'll know it) he at least makes a nuisance of himself, shows for the ball and gives the opposition something to think about. After he went off we offered utterly no threat at all.
I was really frustrated by this. Chasing the game when clearly you need a target and he took him off. He wasn't playing greatly at all but still was our closest to scoring and still is an outlet.
I didn't understand Williams going off either. We were on top at that point. Bizarre.
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Williams looked the most likely to score to me.
I don't think Mandeville is a striker. A number 10 yes but he's too slow to play up top.
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Most likely to score?
How.
He fluffed a one on one and cocked up drom 6 yards out.
Marquis hit the inside of the post
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Give the strikers some chances to convert and then we can start having a conversion about how well they are doing. Williams could have potentially done a bit better with that chance in the second half and Marquis hit the post, but that was it from memory? The final third just isn't bearing fruit at the moment.
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Give the strikers some chances to convert and then we can start having a conversion about how well they are doing. Williams could have potentially done a bit better with that chance in the second half and Marquis hit the post, but that was it from memory? The final third just isn't bearing fruit at the moment.
We are critical of our strikers today yet Scunthorpe scored from a a set piece and realistically did nothing after that. If we had taken both chances we had then the story would have been different.
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Correct
The buck rightly stops with the manager, but the players need to be held accountable.
It's. It fergusons fault that someone forgot who he was marking for their goal nor was it his fault Williams missed two very good chances.
The book stops with Fergie but the players are letting him down too
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Most likely to score?
How.
He fluffed a one on one and cocked up drom 6 yards out.
Marquis hit the inside of the post
Got to agree with dickos1 here; Williams is showing game after game why Fergie wanted to let him go in the summer
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Most likely to score?
How.
He fluffed a one on one and cocked up drom 6 yards out.
Marquis hit the inside of the post
Got to agree with dickos1 here; Williams is showing game after game why Fergie wanted to let him go in the summer
The problem was unless a club had come in for him and taken him and wages then we had to keep him. DF realised the cost of a striker to replace him was more than our budget could afford I think, he did say he couldn't believe how much players wanted now and had drastically changed in the last two years.
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And Marquis is showing why he had his contract lengthened? Strange how things turn out for some players . On common link
DF .. get shut
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I think JM was hooked due to him being on a yellow. Williams, on the other hand, was totally ineffective, but there were others.
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Williams effort over the bar was a lot harder than Marquis' off the post. He'd made the space himself and I don't think Marquis would have got himself into that position.
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Marquis was hooked because DF lost patience with him..He gave the ball away in there half and luckily it popped back to him..Without really looking he turned round and played it backwards...Straight to there player...Ferguson threw up his hands,turned round,said something and Mandeville was up and stripping off.....
I took a bit of stick earlier when I said I wouldn't be held to ransom by Marquis as I didn't think he had proved himself at this level but I'm going to defend him here..DF can have a go at our strikers all he wants but the service they are getting is awful,maybe if they only had to worry about there own jobs they would do better but they are getting dragged all over the park due to our total lack of creative width just to get the ball...
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Williams effort over the bar was a lot harder than Marquis' off the post. He'd made the space himself and I don't think Marquis would have got himself into that position.
Exactly, it was hardly a tap in. He beat his man, then it sat up and he overhit the shot, but it was great play to get himself there.
Taking him off was a bad decision, we were on top at that point.
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May always causes problems when he is on the pitch
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May always causes problems when he is on the pitch
Everyone loves a tryer, but May will never play any higher than he is now, he's just too lightweight
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May always causes problems when he is on the pitch
Everyone loves a tryer, but May will never play any higher than he is now, he's just too lightweight
Thank god you weren't the scout who gave judgement on Lionel Messi!
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Steve, agreed the midfield have been poor in the last few games.Bishop did a job on Copps,and Rowe is out on the left wing,Kongolo was poor in the first half,but was a little better in the second,the rest of them carry no threat at all.
Teams have got our number,they scored after 10 minutes,from a corner after attacking Blair down the right flank.In them 10 minutes every goal kick,set piece and attack were down our right flank,which consists of a young rucky player and a converted winger who is poor in defence.It has been repeated in most games this season.
I posted last week that we had to match them in midfield and not be sloppy with the ball,we didnt and paid the price.Bishop ran the show for the third game against us,and did it by being cute in the tackle and closing our space down.We have nobody that can do that job.
Kongolo was piss poor in the first half and was THE problem - he couldn't tackle , pass , head and rarely found his man. Generally he put all around him at ease however in the 2nd half he was a different player . It was no coincidence that those around him felt more at ease and started to perform. Credit where credit is due the 2nd half display was much improved.
Please lay off Marquis we have had this with a player as good as Billy Sharp ; I believe like Sharp he will come good again . Don't bet against him bagging a goal on Wednesday and win, lose or draw we can kick on. Keep the faith .
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May always causes problems when he is on the pitch
Everyone loves a tryer, but May will never play any higher than he is now, he's just too lightweight
Thank god you weren't the scout who gave judgement on Lionel Messi!
different players, different position, different skill requirments, and different skill levels. Lionel Messi is not a striker
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Williams effort over the bar was a lot harder than Marquis' off the post. He'd made the space himself and I don't think Marquis would have got himself into that position.
He was clean through one on one with the goalie, and hit it 6 foot over the bar. It was dreadful
Marquis was unlucky, Williams was terrible. Got I hit the target from there.
He wasn't even close.
Doesn't even look like a footballer at the minute
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Steve, agreed the midfield have been poor in the last few games.Bishop did a job on Copps,and Rowe is out on the left wing,Kongolo was poor in the first half,but was a little better in the second,the rest of them carry no threat at all.
Teams have got our number,they scored after 10 minutes,from a corner after attacking Blair down the right flank.In them 10 minutes every goal kick,set piece and attack were down our right flank,which consists of a young rucky player and a converted winger who is poor in defence.It has been repeated in most games this season.
I posted last week that we had to match them in midfield and not be sloppy with the ball,we didnt and paid the price.Bishop ran the show for the third game against us,and did it by being cute in the tackle and closing our space down.We have nobody that can do that job.
I don't care how bad they're playing. Cheering other players names when one goes off or booing them leaving the field won't help
Neither will singing for Marosi when Lawlor has the ball.
Remember calling for Marosi really improved Etheridge. Sorry it fxxxed his confidence and probably his career. Let's be a bit more supportive during games at least. To me it's obvious that DF is insisting on playing a certain way which isn't working. The players appear scared to express themselves. If that's the case it's all down to him. If it's not we are obviously not good enough. At the end of the day the board have supported him. Hopefully Baudrey and Mccullough will be back soon and Houhjton will be the player he was last season.
Out fans are shit.
Really, you think our fans are any worse than those of other clubs, they aren't shit but they like others, can be impatient. However you don't get on the backs of Marquis and Williams -they get the goals that count. Without them and their confidence......we are nothing !
Get off their backs it's embarrassing and serves no purpose at all.
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Fans are just frustrated that's all...They turn up pay there £20 odd quid,get soaked (or I did anyway) watch, what was in truth a very drab affair devoid of much skill or passion from anybody and walking off getting beat by your local rivals..Which for many of us means a day like today full of abuse about "how crap we are" and various other jibes from jubilant Scunny fans at work...
I didn't give them a second look at full time,I didn't applaud them,they didn't deserve it..i Skulked off down the tunnel seething that was the best we could produce...
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When I said the rest carry no threat at all, I was meaning the rest of the midfield and not the strikers.
The four strikers we have are all different,and have not had the best of luck in the last few games,and have not been served that well by our midfield.
I am confident that our luck and form will change,and we will have a decent season with all our front men playing a part.