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Too small a sample size sampled in the completely wrong way. I think on a purely subjective note it makes a difference. that's an opinion I don't know what the stats would throw up - it would be interesting to do lots of different stats in a better way than that. In reality too many variables and not enough time and you'd get different answers.
And for some ridiculous, unexplained notion some people are arguing against a cheaper entrance price and a bigger attendance. Why?
Some folks are arguing that more bums on seats does not necessarily mean a better atmosphere, if the owners of those bums are not passionate fans.As for the list of high attendances, where's the Southend (Won), Crewe (Won)and Huddersfield (first KM fixture - also won) matches?
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 22, 2014, 02:28:44 pmToo small a sample size sampled in the completely wrong way. I think on a purely subjective note it makes a difference. that's an opinion I don't know what the stats would throw up - it would be interesting to do lots of different stats in a better way than that. In reality too many variables and not enough time and you'd get different answers.I'm all for disregarding data, but not just based on "an opinion".The numbers show us that, when the Keepmoat crowd has been at its largest, the results have not been particularly favourable. This is not an opinion. That is fact.Now, you might not like that fact, and you might draw your own conclusions from it, but it is a fact.
You'll hear a more passionate atmosphere at church than the KMS, full or not.
Blackpool have given 3k free tickets 4 there awAy game at Wigan
I suppose not all players or teams absorb atmosphere like others might. To try to claim that a roaring atmosphere doesn't affect how well a team can play and even often change the momentum of a game is completely wrong - just how much it can lift players in matches is often stated, in interviews by players. (See Liverpools Champs League win)But to also argue that simply making more noise or having higher attendances affects what goes on on the pitch is also ridiculous (See Leeds Utds last 10 years).The truth is, it falls somewhere in the middle - a great atmosphere can often make a difference in certain matches... but that atmosphere doesn't necessarily need a larger attendance in order to occur! In fact, look at that glorious Southend game - the excellent atmosphere that match was famously created by the devoted and vocal away following that day!And as for the '9000 passionate supporters' - id say we have about 1000 PASSIONATE supporters, the rest are desperate to get the car out the car park come the 85th.You'll hear a more passionate atmosphere at church than the KMS, full or not.
And why would anyone who doesn't come to support the team actually care??
Right, let's have a look at the numbers then William. The most up to date list I can find on here is this:15,001 1 Apr 2008 v Leeds United - Lost14,850 23 Mar 2010 v Newcastle United - Lost14,823 14 Feb 2009 v Sheffield Wednesday - Won14,435 27 Feb 2009 v Derby County - Won14,312 22 Apr 2011 v Crystal Palace - Drew14,242 30 Sep 2008 v Sheffield United - Lost14,020 28 Dec 2008 v Burnley - Won13,669 20 Dec 2008 v Wolverhampton Wanderers - Lost13,614 20 Nov 2010 v Swansea City - Drew13,293 17 Sep 2010 v Leeds United - Drew13,251 28 Oct 2008 v Barnsley - Lost13,026 20 Mar 2010 v Sheffield United - Drew12,962 14 Oct 2011 v Leeds United - Lost12,825 08 Dec 2009 v Sheffield Wednesday - Won12,768 13 Feb 2010 v Nottingham Forest - WonRight, so that's the 15 biggest Keepmoat attendances I can find doing a quick search on here. (I have yet to find a measure for "big games", or a system to arrive at a figure for "large numerical advantage)Played 15, Won 5, Drew 4, Lost 6.It suggests to me that big crowds at the Keepmoat don't really bring us big returns. We win some, we draw some, we lose some, with a defeat the most common outcome.