Northern Ireland deal

[drfchound]

Not a chance Glyn.
If it’s good enough for the likes of bst and Syd then it’s good enough for me.
A bit like when you suggested ASLEF weren’t on strike, someone proved they were and you disappeared from the forum for a bit.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Not a chance Glyn.
If it’s good enough for the likes of bst and Syd then it’s good enough for me.
A bit like when you suggested ASLEF weren’t on strike, someone proved they were and you disappeared from the forum for a bit.

Bullshit. I never said they weren't on strike I just said I hadn't heard about it. Do I have to dig it out and wave it in your face for all to see? Would I get an admission of how wrong you are again?

PS Posting regularly most days after that is 'disappearing from the forum a bit', is it? Is your memory really that bad or are you just a rubbish stalker?

[drfchound]

It must be horrible to be as angry as you are every day.

[Glyn_Wigley]

It must be horrible to be as angry as you are every day.

Good job I'm not angry, just full of pity for an alzheimer's sufferer.

[drfchound]

When you see him give him my regards then. 

[drfchound]

It must be horrible to be as angry as you are every day.

Good job I'm not angry, just full of pity for an alzheimer's sufferer.

Glyn?

[Glyn_Wigley]

When you see him give him my regards then. 

You saw him last in the mirror. By 'eck that really is a bad memory you've got there!.

[Glyn_Wigley]

Not angry at all, just amused. I like to see just how pathetic you can get at trying to needle people, it's very funny.

[BillyStubbsTears]

DD, a couple of days ago I wrote about the our unemployment number being as high as 1.5million in the 1974/79 Labour government period and was told that it never got that high.
So, I copied and pasted an article which stated what I had written but no evidence to the contrary has been mentioned by you know who.

Ah yes, the article you copied and pasted but didn't say where from.

And that got it wrong. The UK unemployment figure for September 1978 was 1,130,200 and was not over 1,500,000. In fact, the highest it got during the 1974-79 Labour government was September 1977 - 1,193,600.

And at least I give a source.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LMUNRLTTGBM647S#

Just put the 1974 - 1979 dates in and see for yourself.

Do we get an acknowledgement of your wrongness from you as you expected from others, I wonder?

The St Louis Fed data is precisely what I was working from.

In fairness, the ONS gives a different set of data which has unemployment peaking at 1.48million in 1978, so I'm happy to withdraw my comment that Hound had the numbers wrong. (1)

Doesn't really detract from the main point I was making, which was that Hound laid into me for claiming that Labour had massively reduced unemployment when I'd actually said nothing of the sort. But that's how discussions with him have gone for years, so I'm happy to generally stay ignorant of how he's responding.

(1) I'm guessing this is related to the change in measuring unemployment that the Tories brought in in the 1980s. In 1978, the headline figure was the total number registered as being out of work. That got changed to the number out of work and claiming UB.

I'm guessing the ONS database has the former and St Louis the latter numbers.

[Glyn_Wigley]

I tried the ONS but all I could find were the percentage unemployment rates.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I tried the ONS but all I could find were the percentage unemployment rates.

They do have the actual numbers but it takes some funding.

[drfchound]

DD, a couple of days ago I wrote about the our unemployment number being as high as 1.5million in the 1974/79 Labour government period and was told that it never got that high.
So, I copied and pasted an article which stated what I had written but no evidence to the contrary has been mentioned by you know who.

Ah yes, the article you copied and pasted but didn't say where from.

And that got it wrong. The UK unemployment figure for September 1978 was 1,130,200 and was not over 1,500,000. In fact, the highest it got during the 1974-79 Labour government was September 1977 - 1,193,600.

And at least I give a source.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LMUNRLTTGBM647S#

Just put the 1974 - 1979 dates in and see for yourself.

Do we get an acknowledgement of your wrongness from you as you expected from others, I wonder?

So , credit to bst for acknowledging that I wasn’t wrong.  Will you do the same I wonder?

[Glyn_Wigley]

If it’s good enough for the likes of bst and Syd then it’s good enough for me.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Meanwhile, back on topic, the sheer menamdacity of some senior Tories over Brexit and NI is quite something to behold.

Here's one of them bleating about how they had to sign the 2019 agreement under duress, because the other parties were blocking true Brexit.

https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1638512784739639296?s=2

For the record, in the 2017-19 Parliament, the Tories had 317 seats.

Labour, the LDs and SNP combined had 309.

Yet this line that it was the other parties who blocked Brexit (they couldn't) has grown into an article of faith for this lot, and is regularly dribbled out in here.