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Fascinating.https://mobile.twitter.com/davies_will/status/1143860276430823425If we had Ref2 and a transferrable vote, there's a decent chance that the result WOULD be a sensible, least damaging Brecit. Option three here, which has by far the highest number of first and second preferences.Would that satisfy you Brexit supporters? I'd accept that as the option that resulted in least overall damage to the economy and social cohesion.One thing is clear. No Deal wouldn't stand a chance. It is NOT what the public want. Clearly. So if that is rammed through, THAT would be a democratic outrage.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on June 26, 2019, 10:17:17 pmFascinating.https://mobile.twitter.com/davies_will/status/1143860276430823425If we had Ref2 and a transferrable vote, there's a decent chance that the result WOULD be a sensible, least damaging Brecit. Option three here, which has by far the highest number of first and second preferences.Would that satisfy you Brexit supporters? I'd accept that as the option that resulted in least overall damage to the economy and social cohesion.One thing is clear. No Deal wouldn't stand a chance. It is NOT what the public want. Clearly. So if that is rammed through, THAT would be a democratic outrage. No interest in this then?I'll give you my take. The Leave vote was a knife edge decision.That meant that if you REALLY wanted to take the majority of the country with you, you needed to go for the softest of Brexits. Which is option 3 on that poll. That's only the FIRST best for a minority of people, but a clear majority are prepared to take that as second best.The May, Johnson and Farage won't accept that for party political reasons, because they want us out of the CU and SM. Despite having no majority wanting that. And despite Johnson and Farage specifically campaigning in 2016 for the sort of compromise type Brexit that they now say is a betrayal of The Will of The People.Corbyn won't accept that because he wants us out of the SM for ideological reasons.So we've had a total lack of vision on BOTH sides about what would actually be a sensible compromise that could take the country with them. Instead, because the Right have been insisting on a Hard Brexit that is the first preference of a small minority, and doesn't even have majority support when you add in second preferences, there, we've headed into this polarised situation. Because the Brexit vote has been hijacked by the Right and interpreted as meaning a Hard Brexit, first choice opinion on the other side is to kill Brexit altogether.And so, because there's no leadership for the soft compromise option, and because there is no possibility whatsoever of Johnson being able to re-negotiated the Withdrawal Agreement before October, we're now looking at the options being No Deal or No Brexit. Didn't have to be like that, but that's where we are now. Instead of a compromise that everyone could have grumbled about but accepted, we're left with options that will seriously f**k off nearly half the population. All through pygmy leadership from some politicians (May, Corbyn) and bad faith from others (Farage, Johnson).
Well, here's Owen Jones catching up with me about...err...24 months late.I guess he's the next one for the Blairite/Centrist/NeoLib/Coup-Plotter treatment.
The one that was spoken about by a panel on talk radio this morning.
Bloody hell the Spanish inquisition, Mike Graham, yesterday or this mornings programme, Whats up does it frighten you?
Sydney, I was listening while walking the dog.