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Title: Dull v TLOD
Post by: glosterred on December 02, 2020, 06:02:52 pm
Tonight’s team


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Post by: jm291 on December 02, 2020, 06:03:40 pm
TJJ in and it would look a good team. With Fej in we are going to struggle (again) I fear!
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Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2020, 06:10:58 pm
I would have started JJ and where is Madger has he had a set back.
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Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 06:14:27 pm
Why no Gomez?
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 06:21:21 pm
Could be all sorts of reasons - minor injury in training, ill, etc.. we will find out soon enough..

As for Fej starting, let’s see how he plays tonight before writing him off for the game shall we.?
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Post by: glosterred on December 02, 2020, 06:30:06 pm
Seen somewhere Madger has been to the dentist and I’d rather start with Feji than JJ as JJ looked beyond rusty when he came on against Carlisle


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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 06:36:26 pm
I would love Fej to shove a goal down a few necks tonight.
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Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 06:43:34 pm
got to pass it to him first
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 06:48:17 pm
It's a team game and they're all capable of scoring. I don't care who scores on the night as long as the lads play well!

COYR.
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Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2020, 06:49:48 pm
He’s got to anticipate that theirs a pass coming first but if he scores then good for him.
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 06:50:35 pm
It's a team game and they're all capable of scoring. I don't care who scores on the night as long as the lads play well!

COYR.





Yep, me too Baz but the stick that has been given to Fej has be been over the top.
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 06:53:28 pm
Come on you reds... :scarf:
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Post by: Pancho Regan on December 02, 2020, 06:59:34 pm
I would love Fej to shove a goal down a few necks tonight.

My neck included Hound.
Actually I’d be happy to see an all-round improvement in his general performance regardless of whether he scores tonight.
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:02:08 pm
Is it just me or does the pitch look massive? Shame Taylor’s not there to stretch his legs...
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:05:11 pm
First shot of the game by Fej deflected for a corner..
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Post by: adamtherover on December 02, 2020, 07:06:31 pm
Ifollow plays on my phone, completely black screen on my TV? Wtf...
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Post by: deebee on December 02, 2020, 07:10:23 pm
3 fouls by Josh Magennis already, not long before a yellow card for him.
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:10:43 pm
Best chance of the game so far falls to Hull, a volley shanked wide from a few years out. Smith been careless in possession on a couple of occasions so far.
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Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:10:49 pm
Magennis is a dirty t**t.
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2020, 07:10:58 pm
Ifollow plays on my phone, completely black screen on my TV? Wtf...
Always been the same with me. Plus this evening the pic is very blurred
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Post by: deebee on December 02, 2020, 07:11:05 pm
Try logging out and back in again.
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Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 07:11:17 pm
Been an entertaining start.
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 07:19:14 pm
Pitch terrible. High bounce and very bobbly.
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Post by: bedale rover on December 02, 2020, 07:21:14 pm
Posh 2 down to the wombles
Ha ha Ha
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Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 07:23:18 pm
We've been horrendous in possession so far.
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 07:24:19 pm
Good game this.
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:24:19 pm
Lumly’s kicking leaving a lot to be desired so far
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:24:31 pm
Lumley is far too casual for my liking. Passed straight to a Hull player 30 yards out twice already, he makes me feel like there’s a clanger just around the corner.
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Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:26:05 pm
Was that a foul? Anyway 0-1
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Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 07:26:26 pm
b*llocks.
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 07:26:34 pm
How in the hell was that a foul!?
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Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 07:26:39 pm
1-0 down, Magennis.
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:26:47 pm
It’s been coming. We started really well but fell back into our usual bad habits of passing around our back line and being very poor in possession.
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:26:56 pm
0-1 no stopping that..

Was a dodgy free kick I thought..

On another matter ifollow is working perfectly for me.
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Post by: bedale rover on December 02, 2020, 07:27:00 pm
Damn!
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2020, 07:27:33 pm
Needless foul to give away leads to a Dull goal. We need to be far more precise with our passing to get on top of these.
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Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2020, 07:27:42 pm
Silly foul to give away but plenty of time left
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Post by: Spud on December 02, 2020, 07:27:55 pm
Ref in a good position but didn't look like a foul.
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 07:28:05 pm
Wright got sucked in there by Wilks.
Silly place to give away that free kick.
Ah well, behind yet again.
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Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 07:28:11 pm
Well done wright....Hull will love you your ability to not give a shit who you foul.....
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Post by: dknward2 on December 02, 2020, 07:28:27 pm
WE go behind again

Need to get back all square quickly
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Post by: Pancho Regan on December 02, 2020, 07:28:39 pm
Disappointing to go behind to a soft free kick.

Big challenge now.
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:28:59 pm
Needless foul to give away leads to a Dull goal. We need to be far more precise with our passing to get on top of these.

Needless intervention by the ref - wasn’t a foul..
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:29:51 pm
Thought it was soft but no complaints. Stupid from Wright really. We’ll never put a consistent run together and climb the table if we keep on giving teams a head start.
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:29:56 pm
Ref looks to be a bit spineless
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:30:53 pm
How can it be stupid by Wright if the ref has “bought” the Hull player’s reaction.?
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2020, 07:32:08 pm
Needless foul to give away leads to a Dull goal. We need to be far more precise with our passing to get on top of these.

Needless intervention by the ref - wasn’t a foul..
Looked a foul all day long to me.
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:32:54 pm
Have to agree to disagree..
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Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:33:12 pm
Hull players going down like straw men. Halliday booked for f**k all.
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Post by: adamtherover on December 02, 2020, 07:34:11 pm
Ifollow plays on my phone, completely black screen on my TV? Wtf...
Always been the same with me. Plus this evening the pic is very blurred
it works fine on my tablet, but freezes as soon as I try to cast screen to my TV. As if it knows its been cast? What a crock of.......
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 07:34:15 pm
Had a look the other day what we were like in both 45s. In the first half we average 1.42 PPG which is midtable. In the second half we average 1.82 PPG which is comfortably play-offs.
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Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 07:35:41 pm
passing is atrocious today
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 07:35:59 pm
Under the cosh...?
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:36:21 pm
The amount of times we have given possession away cheaply this half whilst under no pressure is laughable.
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Post by: The Beast on December 02, 2020, 07:36:31 pm
Quite a few slagging Fej, I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to play as a lone striker against two quite often three centre halves. With two strikers you can run into the channels, with one striker it’s too easy for the defence to cover the ball into the channels, so you spend most of the game with your back to goal, trying to receive a bouncing ball while a 6’3 lump clatters you in the back.
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Post by: Peebles Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:36:43 pm
Not looking good so far. They need to get into them more and sort the passing. Wills has bulked out has he not?
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:37:21 pm
How can it be stupid by Wright if the ref has “bought” the Hull player’s reaction.?

Not sure if that’s aimed at me but it’s stupid because Wright went through the back of Wilks, it was soft as it wasn’t a hefty challenge but it was still a foul.  Or at least that’s how it looked to me when I saw it.
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:38:48 pm
Again, agree to disagree as I don’t think it was a foul..
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:39:03 pm
Some of these players would struggle to pass wind. Hopefully we’ll get another second half turnaround as we’ve been completely dominated since the goal.
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Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 02, 2020, 07:39:09 pm
Quite a few slagging Fej, I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to play as a lone striker against two quite often three centre halves. With two strikers you can run into the channels, with one striker it’s too easy for the defence to cover the ball into the channels, so you spend most of the game with your back to goal, trying to receive a bouncing ball while a 6’3 lump clatters you in the back.

But, many can cope with one striker and it is his job. If he can't do it the manager brought in the wrong man for his team.  He sometimes can be good but I'm not sure we use him effective. Too much high stuff to him.
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:41:41 pm
Fej has done nowt to warrant any criticism yet tonight.?
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:42:47 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:43:30 pm
I’ve seen better passing on Cantley Park on a Sunday morning.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:43:51 pm
Fej has done nowt to warrant any criticism yet tonight.?

He needs to be stronger and hold the ball up, without him doing that we’ve got no chance
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:44:01 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?  Why are you picking on them.?  We are second best as a team but those two haven’t let us down - if you think they have, please explain how.???

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??
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Post by: keith79 on December 02, 2020, 07:44:30 pm
Big improvement needed 2nd half
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:45:58 pm
Fej has done nowt to warrant any criticism yet tonight.?

He needs to be stronger and hold the ball up, without him doing that we’ve got no chance

No chance.?  The other 10 players don’t do owt for the cause then.?
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Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 07:46:14 pm
Big improvement needed 2nd half

Another Blackpool match, eh?
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:47:51 pm
Positives - we are only 1 nil down
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 07:47:58 pm
2nd half resurgence incoming.....
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Post by: Peebles Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:48:20 pm
Very one sided first half. Hull look very strong
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Post by: Peebles Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:48:44 pm
What changes would you make?
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:49:00 pm
Big improvement needed 2nd half

Another Blackpool match, eh?

Yes and no - we’re second best but it’s 0-1.. plenty of time to turn things round..

Do we like to lull the opposition into a false sense of security.?
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:49:05 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well
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Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 07:49:22 pm
I am utterly embarrassed by this amateurish approach to every game or so it seems...passing is woeful,
Players don’t know where to be and this constantly taking the pace out of the game is dangerous..

I’ll say it cos it’s how I see it....when John plays in a left back  role we look like a freakin wonky dog ......
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Post by: glosterred on December 02, 2020, 07:50:17 pm
Poor in possession tonight, looks as though some of the Rovers players having trouble distinguishing Red and White from Gold and Black


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Post by: Filo on December 02, 2020, 07:50:41 pm
We don’t half make things difficult for ourselves, pisspoor passing and no ine can actually collect a ball, another first half where we’ve failed to test the keeper
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 07:50:46 pm
Sick of watching us have no clear plan going forward. I think we've been worked out now and Darren Moore needs to show he can adapt, and change our approach.

We've barely had a shot again. It must be four or five league games on the spin without a meaningful shot on target in the first half. What's it all about?
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 07:50:56 pm
Quite a few slagging Fej, I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to play as a lone striker against two quite often three centre halves. With two strikers you can run into the channels, with one striker it’s too easy for the defence to cover the ball into the channels, so you spend most of the game with your back to goal, trying to receive a bouncing ball while a 6’3 lump clatters you in the back.

But, many can cope with one striker and it is his job. If he can't do it the manager brought in the wrong man for his team.  He sometimes can be good but I'm not sure we use him effective. Too much high stuff to him.





I think that the point is that Fej is isolated up there with very little support.
The midfielders are often twenty or more yards away from him.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:51:08 pm
Fej has done nowt to warrant any criticism yet tonight.?

He needs to be stronger and hold the ball up, without him doing that we’ve got no chance

No chance.?  The other 10 players don’t do owt for the cause then.?

What does that have to do with anything??
If you’re up against a very good side then you need your striker to be able to hold the ball up and keep it away from your goal and give your other midfielders a chance to get up and support

If you’re losing the ball everytime it’s played upto you then you’re just inviting the pressure on as we’ve seen throughout this half
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Post by: Pancho Regan on December 02, 2020, 07:51:17 pm
I’m not down-hearted, we’re still very much in this game.
We’re behind to a soft set-piece but we’ve shown already this season that we can come from behind and win.

We have the talent in mid-field to create chances and score goals.

Come on you reds!!
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Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2020, 07:51:32 pm
Fej needs more support, Taylor Richards is being forced to play far to deep, we need to try push the defence up a few yards but think we’re worried about wilks pace
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Post by: pib on December 02, 2020, 07:51:38 pm
Big improvement needed second half.

Another 1st half with no shot on target.
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Post by: tommy toes on December 02, 2020, 07:51:44 pm
Don't know which is worse
The ifollow feed or Rovers
Hope they both improve second half
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 07:52:03 pm
Just a catalogue of unforced errors. The pitch ain't great but we're our own worst enemy making it alot easier for Hull, plus a helping hand from the ref.

Wilks goes down with the slightest touch again and gets Halliday booked for doing very little.

We are capable of much better and wouldn't take much to get back into the game.

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Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 07:52:23 pm
Very one sided first half. Hull look very strong


Possession 53%  : 47% to Hull
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:53:02 pm
Quite a few slagging Fej, I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to play as a lone striker against two quite often three centre halves. With two strikers you can run into the channels, with one striker it’s too easy for the defence to cover the ball into the channels, so you spend most of the game with your back to goal, trying to receive a bouncing ball while a 6’3 lump clatters you in the back.

But, many can cope with one striker and it is his job. If he can't do it the manager brought in the wrong man for his team.  He sometimes can be good but I'm not sure we use him effective. Too much high stuff to him.





I think that the point is that Fej is isolated up there with very little support.
The midfielders are often twenty or more yards away from him.

I agree with you hound, he is isolated and that’s down to Moore.
But when it is played upto him he’s got to show more aggression to try and keep hold of the ball
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:53:36 pm
I might just start tuning in for the second half, that was another very poor first half. We are absolutely dreadful to watch starting games at the moment. I’d say we’re lucky to have scored nil!
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Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 07:53:52 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well

John has made several clearances from dangerous positions.

I will always defend players if they give their best, or if they are being unnecessarily made scapegoats..

Hull are top of the league for a reason.  Yes we need to up our game second half, but we have done that before..

So what if I look for positives.?  You always only seem to look for negatives.. maybe you should switch allegiances to Peterborough..
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:53:57 pm
Very one sided first half. Hull look very strong


Possession 53%  : 47% to Hull

Our possession though is between our centre halves and our goalie
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 07:54:07 pm
Sick of watching us have no clear plan going forward. I think we've been worked out now and Darren Moore needs to show he can adapt, and change our approach.

We've barely had a shot again. It must be four or five league games on the spin without a meaningful shot on target in the first half. What's it all about?





I have to agree with that RA.
Someone said to me that DM isn’t a good tactical manager but he might just be a lucky one.
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Post by: glosterred on December 02, 2020, 07:54:11 pm


Wilks goes down with the slightest touch again and gets Halliday booked for doing very little.




We use to cheer him when he did that for us


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Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 07:54:15 pm
im not so sure Hull have got out of first gear, we are not playing well at the moment. It was noticeable that Whiteman was playing almost as a centre back in the first 15 mins, and we controlled the game better, he then went wandering up the pitch and we lost that control. The defenders do see the pass, but are too scared, or to slow to make it so we end up with a to you, to me situation between the defence, then back to the keeper.

Passing and control form all players has been the worst I have seen for some time, and Hull are not in their faces, so it is not their pressure.
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Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 07:55:07 pm
Very one sided first half. Hull look very strong


Possession 53%  : 47% to Hull

Our possession though is between our centre halves and our goalie





That is often the case.
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Post by: eastender on December 02, 2020, 07:55:21 pm
Their commentator said "it's like watching a Champions League premier team playing against a bottom 3 team"
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Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 07:55:35 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well

John has made several clearances from dangerous positions.

I will always defend players if they give their best, or if they are being unnecessarily made scapegoats..

Hull are top of the league for a reason.  Yes we need to up our game second half, but we have done that before..

So what if I look for positives.?  You always only seem to look for negatives.. maybe you should switch allegiances to Peterborough..

That’s a very lazy response
Wouldn't take you long to realise most of my posts aren’t negative

But if we’re not playing well there’s no reason to try and pretend that we are
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Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 07:55:57 pm
Guaranteed that Halliday will get a red this half. I hope I’m wrong
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Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 07:57:32 pm
What is the matter with our strategy for the first half of games? We seem to think that teams will lay down and allow Rovers to play pretty football building slowly with us taking a chance occasionally. It is going to take a DM boost at half time to wake players up again if Rovers get anything out of this game. That shouldn't have to happen, we should be taking the game to teams like Hull with pace and putting them on a back foot. There seems to be too much respect given to all teams who play us.
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Post by: colincramb on December 02, 2020, 07:58:10 pm
im not so sure Hull have got out of first gear, we are not playing well at the moment. It was noticeable that Whiteman was playing almost as a centre back in the first 15 mins, and we controlled the game better, he then went wandering up the pitch and we lost that control. The defenders do see the pass, but are too scared, or to slow to make it so we end up with a to you, to me situation between the defence, then back to the keeper.

Passing and control form all players has been the worst I have seen for some time, and Hull are not in their faces, so it is not their pressure.

Problem is, how many games do we keep saying “it’s the worst passing I’ve seen” “worst we’ve been for ages” etc.

Or, it could just be against the better sides we just aren’t good enough at times and just need to accept we’ll be up against it? Yes we’ve beat some of them I know, but let’s not be too harsh on the team and manager. We are still a developing side
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Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 07:58:27 pm
Is it possible to just buy one half of any future matches, because I am feeling very short changed again!!

If this team is a prospective top ten team.......my tools a tangerine.....

Now let the bollockin  reap some kind of reward


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Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 02, 2020, 07:58:37 pm
Just a catalogue of unforced errors. The pitch ain't great but we're our own worst enemy making it alot easier for Hull, plus a helping hand from the ref.

Wilks goes down with the slightest touch again and gets Halliday booked for doing very little.

We are capable of much better and wouldn't take much to get back into the game.



No mention of the booking on BBC?
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 07:58:54 pm
Hull look a good side, probably as good as I’ve seen this season. Way better than Sunderland. But they’re not making us look poor, we are doing that all by ourselves.
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Post by: Jersey Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:02:10 pm
Our most influential player(whiteman) playing as a third center back, get up the pitch
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Post by: SydneyRover on December 02, 2020, 08:02:41 pm
surprised to see passing accuracy same as hull on the stats!
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 08:02:58 pm
Sick of watching us have no clear plan going forward. I think we've been worked out now and Darren Moore needs to show he can adapt, and change our approach.

We've barely had a shot again. It must be four or five league games on the spin without a meaningful shot on target in the first half. What's it all about?





I have to agree with that RA.
Someone said to me that DM isn’t a good tactical manager but he might just be a lucky one.

I think he is a good tactician and has shown it before, but he seems committed to a certain way of approaching games even if the personnel aren't right or we're struggling to get it going.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: adamtherover on December 02, 2020, 08:03:10 pm
Doesn't help that near the end. The Hull keeper passed it out. No one was on the halF aside from fey..   10 men defending in our own half, and we wonder why we are under the cosh,  the exact opposite of the high press.  Which is something they did superbly versus Ipswich not that long ago,   is it jon Taylors influence that drags others around him to put a shift in?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:03:16 pm
I think the problem is we have seen just hoe good they can be, then the form dropped off the edge of a cliff, no gradual decline
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:04:02 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well

John has made several clearances from dangerous positions.

I will always defend players if they give their best, or if they are being unnecessarily made scapegoats..

Hull are top of the league for a reason.  Yes we need to up our game second half, but we have done that before..

So what if I look for positives.?  You always only seem to look for negatives.. maybe you should switch allegiances to Peterborough..

That’s a very lazy response
Wouldn't take you long to realise most of my posts aren’t negative

But if we’re not playing well there’s no reason to try and pretend that we are

I never said we were playing well - I just don’t like your over criticism of certain players..

And yes, you do often come over on here as overly negative and you’re not the only one..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 08:04:16 pm
We've made them look good. All our players have made errors passing the ball, so we haven't got up the pitch enough. We've got to force them into the same errors, which they will make.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:04:34 pm
surprised to see passing accuracy same as hull on the stats!

Again more than half of that will be between our CB’s and GK. We have less than 50% passing accuracy in the final 3rd.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:05:24 pm
No 27 is in the refs ear all the time
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:09:08 pm
No 27 is in the refs ear all the time

Sounds like Blackpool’s Gary Madine, eh?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:11:28 pm
Cameron John has the most awkward passing style I have ever seen, I thought Joe wright was painful to watch at times, but I panic every time John passes it back.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 08:12:42 pm
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Scooter on December 02, 2020, 08:13:17 pm
Is it a lack of creativity or poor decision making? We have a habit of passing it backwards when in decent positions. Prime example in the first half - we had a free kick deep into their half. We pushed players forward then whiteman played a square ball which then went backwards back into our own half. It’s like watching David Batty
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 08:13:52 pm
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!

Blatant dive for me, the slow motion replay really showed it.

Wilks made a right meal of it and was always looking to go down there.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Scooter on December 02, 2020, 08:13:59 pm
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!

Looked a pen to me
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:15:19 pm
Hull didn’t complain..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 08:16:03 pm
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!

Blatant dive for me, the slow motion replay really showed it.

Wilks made a right meal of it and was always looking to go down there.

Didn’t catch the replay but will be interesting to see it again. It looked to me like he’d knocked it past Lumley, who got nowhere near the ball and pulled him down. Happy the ref saw it the same way as you though!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:16:09 pm
How long before DM makes changes.?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 08:16:17 pm
The replay showed it was a dive. Was worried initially though. Good refereeing.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: keith79 on December 02, 2020, 08:17:54 pm
Richards passing is very poor. Imo
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:18:08 pm
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!

Blatant dive for me, the slow motion replay really showed it.

Wilks made a right meal of it and was always looking to go down there.
Wow I think we got away with that one, how is that a dive?!

Looked a pen to me

Opinions, eh?  :)
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 08:18:21 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well

John has made several clearances from dangerous positions.

I will always defend players if they give their best, or if they are being unnecessarily made scapegoats..

Hull are top of the league for a reason.  Yes we need to up our game second half, but we have done that before..

So what if I look for positives.?  You always only seem to look for negatives.. maybe you should switch allegiances to Peterborough..

Good luck trying to find any positives so far.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:20:02 pm
James and John
Simply not good enough

WTF.?

We are up against a good side - neither of them have done much wrong.??

They’ve given the ball away almost every time they’ve had it.
That’s simply not good enough

To be fair if we were 9-0 down I’m pretty sure you’d be telling us all we’ve played well

John has made several clearances from dangerous positions.

I will always defend players if they give their best, or if they are being unnecessarily made scapegoats..

Hull are top of the league for a reason.  Yes we need to up our game second half, but we have done that before..

So what if I look for positives.?  You always only seem to look for negatives.. maybe you should switch allegiances to Peterborough..

Good luck trying to find any positives so far.

I won’t find many on here will I.?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:20:07 pm
2/3 of the game gone, no shots on goal.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 08:20:17 pm
Got a feeling we're going to nick one here......
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:21:19 pm
Richards passing is very poor. Imo

I agree he’s not had a great game - off for Copps in a reverse of the Blackpool game..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:21:33 pm
That would be nice.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:22:01 pm
JJ on for Smith..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 08:22:10 pm
JJ & Copps on for Smith & Richards. It’s either going to be a master stroke or leave us overrun in central midfield...
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: ian1980 on December 02, 2020, 08:22:32 pm
65 minutes:

Hull
Shots 14
On target 2

Us
Shots 3
On target 0
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 08:23:14 pm
Two changes we needed to make, happy with those.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 08:23:33 pm
Takes smith off and put James into the middle of the park
Makes zero sense
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:23:43 pm
Smith also had a shocker tonight. Can’t remember him completing a single pass
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:23:52 pm
2/3 of the game gone, no shots on goal.


And yet they have 2 out of 14. Thank god we haven't got their strkers.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:24:28 pm
Got a feeling we're going to nick one here......

Another Sunderland?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:25:02 pm
Takes smith off and put James into the middle of the park
Makes zero sense

And you would have changed things how.?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 08:25:06 pm
Takes smith off and put James into the middle of the park
Makes zero sense

Smith has been poor, really struggled in that central position tonight. Moore felt he had to do something and he hasn't got a lot of options in that position.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:25:39 pm
It would be a change to see us put two up front, JJ and Fej.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:27:30 pm
It would be a change to see us put two up front, JJ and Fej.

Have to get the ball up to them..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 08:30:27 pm
Takes smith off and put James into the middle of the park
Makes zero sense

And you would have changed things how.?

Coppinger on for John
James to left back

Play players in their correct positions might give us half a chance
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:30:45 pm
man of the match might be a tough one. -Halliday?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:31:33 pm
Finally, a shot! Off target but at least that's one.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:32:33 pm
And another..

They weren’t the first either, but the first for some time...
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 08:32:45 pm
Why are we shooting from distance when we have closer options?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:33:54 pm
man of the match might be a tough one. -Halliday?

Anderson.?  So far anyway..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:34:31 pm
Too many square pegs in round holes. We don’t look like a team and we will finish around 11th or 12th this season.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 08:36:14 pm
To give yassen a bit of a lift....turn off the volume and put some Benny Hill on....it makes more sense to have a bit of a laugh rather than screaming at the players...

We have a fissure in front of us and we are down to our last roll of paper.....

Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 02, 2020, 08:37:07 pm
Too many square pegs in round holes. We don’t look like a team and we will finish around 11th or 12th this season.

With the players we’ve got (on paper) that would be a poor season. Personally think we’ll end up in the playoffs but hard to back that up tonight
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:38:11 pm
We seem to be giving it more of a go but there is a danger of being caught on the break..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 08:38:46 pm
1:1
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 08:39:01 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:39:23 pm
Get in JJ.!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 08:39:27 pm
Get the f**k in!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:39:32 pm
get the bjbjhbju in!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:39:37 pm
Fantastic! Another now lads!!!!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:39:42 pm
Get in!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2020, 08:39:48 pm
John Jules scores
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Drover on December 02, 2020, 08:40:58 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

Your opinion,but I disagree.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on December 02, 2020, 08:41:37 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

With the players we’ve got anything less than play offs come the end of season is below par. The way we’re playing it’s reasonable to suggest but results wise we’re probably on course for what we need
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:42:41 pm
Would love to nick this.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 08:43:16 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

With the players we’ve got anything less than play offs come the end of season is below par. The way we’re playing it’s reasonable to suggest but results wise we’re probably on course for what we need

Yeah I'd agree with that, it was more posing a question than me outright saying I think he's bang average tbf.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:44:15 pm
Could go either way this one..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: foxbat on December 02, 2020, 08:44:29 pm
PV0 looking goid at the moment,  but niw hoping for a win  :scarf:
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 08:44:33 pm
2:1
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:44:49 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

Disagree. Some of the stuff we have played is up there with peak SO’D era for me.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:44:56 pm
b*llocks!!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:45:19 pm
Arseholes.. keeper makes one mistake and it’s a goal..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:45:31 pm
Shocking
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:45:53 pm
Lumley should be holding that. Cameron John should also cover just in case. FFS.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 08:46:11 pm
f**k up from Lumley. Called it that he had a clanger in him, thought it would be more to do with his kicking rather than that though.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jm291 on December 02, 2020, 08:46:27 pm
Howler from Lumley. God we miss Seny!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 08:46:32 pm
Shocking goalkeeping.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:46:36 pm
Lumley should be holding that. Cameron John should also cover just on case. FFS.

No one else’s fault apart from the GK
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 08:46:48 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

Disagree. Some of the stuff we have played is up there with peak SO’D era for me.

Even Dickov had us playing silky stuff against at shit Leeds team and he's still our worst manager in the last 18 years.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:47:56 pm
Lumley should be holding that. Cameron John should also cover just on case. FFS.

No one else’s fault apart from the GK

Agree but John should provide cover just in case. Eaves reacted.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 08:48:20 pm
Might be controversial, but what if Darren Moore is actually a bang average manager and it's only now becoming clear?...

I stand by that thought despite the goal.

Disagree. Some of the stuff we have played is up there with peak SO’D era for me.

Are you serious? What are you on?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: RoversAlias on December 02, 2020, 08:48:47 pm
Lumley should be holding that. Cameron John should also cover just on case. FFS.

No one else’s fault apart from the GK

Agree but John should provide cover just in case. Eaves reacted.

There shouldn't be anything to react to.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 08:48:59 pm
I don’t think anyone can say we were robbed.....having 5 minutes in a 90 minute game does not deserve a win or a draw....

I’m actually quite pleased that justice has been seen to be done, though I hate it when rovers lose.....I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: foxbat on December 02, 2020, 08:50:01 pm
well , that  didn't last long  :(
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: NickDRFC on December 02, 2020, 08:50:07 pm
John was slow to react but I’m sure he doesn’t expect a football league goalkeeper to make such a basic mistake. In fact a goalkeeper at any standard.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 08:50:23 pm
Don’t be daft
The best wins are the ones you don’t deserve
We played well for 15-20 mins but not enough over 90 mins
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: swain_drfc on December 02, 2020, 08:51:46 pm
Eaves has just done exactly what Fej is incapable of doing. Holding the ball up and winning a free kick
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:52:12 pm
I don’t think anyone can say we were robbed.....having 5 minutes in a 90 minute game does not deserve a win or a draw....

I’m actually quite pleased that justice has been seen to be done, though I hate it when rovers lose.....I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

Me? I really don’t care just how badly we play. If we are crap and win, I’ll take that all day long. Winning is what it is all about in football.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dknward2 on December 02, 2020, 08:52:47 pm
Only positive is another point on PvO
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Peebles Rover on December 02, 2020, 08:53:37 pm

I don’t think anyone can say we were robbed.....having 5 minutes in a 90 minute game does not deserve a win or a draw....

I’m actually quite pleased that justice has been seen to be done, though I hate it when rovers lose.....I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

??!!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:53:49 pm
Game over. Lost 2-1! :crying:
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 02, 2020, 08:54:04 pm
Maybe it is right that Moore is just average.
Maybe Cameron John and Okenabirhie are both bad passers of the ball and neither have decent touches.
Maybe Copps has finally gone.

We might just need to accept were unlikely to get into the play offs.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Filo on December 02, 2020, 08:54:18 pm
Got what we deserved, sick of us not turning up in the first half, Cameron John guilty of ball watching instead of making sure Eaves doesn’t nip in, having said that it was poor from Lumley
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:54:23 pm
..I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

Are you on drugs.??
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: colincramb on December 02, 2020, 08:54:35 pm
I don’t think anyone can say we were robbed.....having 5 minutes in a 90 minute game does not deserve a win or a draw....

I’m actually quite pleased that justice has been seen to be done, though I hate it when rovers lose.....I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....
I don’t think anyone can say we were robbed.....having 5 minutes in a 90 minute game does not deserve a win or a draw....

I’m actually quite pleased that justice has been seen to be done, though I hate it when rovers lose.....I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

What a load of rubbish. A draw would have been a brilliant result tonight and we almost pulled it off. You always take what you can get away from home. Silly comment
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 08:54:39 pm
We got what we deserved.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2020, 08:55:12 pm
Better squad won the game, how many of our players would get in their side I would say Whiteman at best. We move on to next game.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2020, 08:55:22 pm
Eaves has just done exactly what Fej is incapable of doing. Holding the ball up and winning a free kick
while fej touch was crap he needs support, Moore needs to try and attack rather than  sit back for a hour of the game
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 02, 2020, 08:56:18 pm
What a pity. Looked as though we were going  to finish the stronger.

Sure that shot took a deflection  which Lumley had to adjust for.

Took us too long to adjust but some better second half performances. Cameron John played really well, will some determined defending. I thought Fej looked a bit sharper tonight and good goal from JJ too.

Disappointing as I thought we could go on and win that.

We live and learn and we move on!
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:56:59 pm
Don’t be daft
The best wins are the ones you don’t deserve
We played well for 15-20 mins but not enough over 90 mins

Can’t disagree with you there.. second best most of the game.  Started to look more of a threat before and after our goal, but a bad mistake cost us in the end.

Can’t complain about the result.  Need to put that one to bed and up our game for the next match..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: pib on December 02, 2020, 08:58:16 pm
Don't really know what to say because I don't know where the problem lies, but we seem to be playing with the handbrake on pretty much every week, and people don't seem to know their roles even as well as the start of last season when DM had just arrived.

Is it the tactics? Players? Squad not as good as we think?

Not sure but something is holding us back because I would say we have players on paper that are capable of competing.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: jmt23 on December 02, 2020, 08:58:34 pm
Can't complain with the result, we were poor, somethings not right with the team at the moment. The only positive I can find is that we will get that form back eventually, but my early season optimism that we would walk the league has gone.
This is a team more than capable of the top 6 though.

Hull are a decent side, but nothing to have great fears over
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 08:58:47 pm
What a pity. Looked as though we were going  to finish the stronger.

Sure that shot took a deflection  which Lumley had to adjust for.

Took us too long to adjust but some better second half performances. Cameron John played really well, will some determined defending. I thought Fej looked a bit sharper tonight and good goal from JJ too.

Disappointing as I thought we could go on and win that.

We live and learn and we move on!

Perhaps we should start with both Fej and JJ together.?
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on December 02, 2020, 08:59:09 pm
Maybe it is right that Moore is just average.
Maybe Cameron John and Okenabirhie are both bad passers of the ball and neither have decent touches.
Maybe Copps has finally gone.

We might just need to accept were unlikely to get into the play offs.

What? Only 14 games into the season and you’ve written it off?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 08:59:37 pm
Feji was a different player when he had John jules up with him.
As a team we looked much better with both of them up there

Moore’s got to start them both on sat
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: godlike1 on December 02, 2020, 09:00:42 pm
Long way to go and injuries have not helped but we are going backwards performance wise at the min. I feel were a million miles away from a playoff place at the min
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 09:01:11 pm
Some right drama queens on here..... we lost to the top team - it's not the end of the world....
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2020, 09:02:13 pm
Without Gomes and Taylor on the bench our squad is not strong enough. To compete and beat Hull. We are relying on young lads who can have good games. Hull played a different 10 players on Saturday, we couldn’t do that. The amount of games we have we need  some more players in January. Any way we move on. But players are looking tired.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: dickos1 on December 02, 2020, 09:02:33 pm
I don’t think the issue is tonight’s result, it’s the poor performances over the last few weeks that are worrying
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 02, 2020, 09:03:46 pm
Got what we deserved tonight, nothing. We have players that have a worse first touch than Sunday morning players, & passing to boot. We are bang average & it showed tonight. The only reason we are hanging on in games is due to the centre halves who keep us in games. The times we lose the ball due to misplaced simple passes is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 09:06:16 pm
..I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

Are you on drugs.??

No, just think we play crap
Having a team that looks to struggle week in week out then nick a result is NOT my idea of being considered a contender for promotion....the teams that destroy others are those that can cope at a higher level....this team looks wonky!
I’m sure everyone can see how we are relying more on oodles of luck rather than skill and dominance......

We will not make the top 6 ..... our luck at staying IN games is running out
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 09:07:09 pm
We need more players hitting consistent good form.. Richards was excellent second half vs Blackpool yet ineffective tonight.. 

Not getting into the opposition’s final third often enough ends up putting pressure on our back line and ultimately more chances to the opposition..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: IDM on December 02, 2020, 09:08:50 pm
..I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

Are you on drugs.??

No, just think we play crap
Having a team that looks to struggle week in week out then nick a result is NOT my idea of being considered a contender for promotion....the teams that destroy others are those that can cope at a higher level....this team looks wonky!
I’m sure everyone can see how we are relying more on oodles of luck rather than skill and dominance......

We will not make the top 6 ..... our luck at staying IN games is running out

Go watch Man City then if you want to follow that sort of team..
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: PDX_Rover on December 02, 2020, 09:10:47 pm
John was slow to react but I’m sure he doesn’t expect a football league goalkeeper to make such a basic mistake. In fact a goalkeeper at any standard.

Agree but... given recent goals...
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 09:14:38 pm
Maybe it is right that Moore is just average.
Maybe Cameron John and Okenabirhie are both bad passers of the ball and neither have decent touches.
Maybe Copps has finally gone.

We might just need to accept were unlikely to get into the play offs.

What? Only 14 games into the season and you’ve written it off?  :facepalm:

It might have escaped you ....but our performances are in freefall!
Yes we are getting results that flatter our performance, but we are pretty much second best in most games at the moment....

Nobody wants the team to lose , but it’s very hard to get enthusiastic watching these performances , I have not felt confident of winning any of our recent games .....but I have hoped we don’t get beat....and in that I think we have delivered....

Lots of games coming up and we are just not learning to the overcome our problems...

I’m really not sure there are that many on here that believe we are realistically a top 6 team....
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 09:21:21 pm
Just a catalogue of unforced errors. The pitch ain't great but we're our own worst enemy making it alot easier for Hull, plus a helping hand from the ref.

Wilks goes down with the slightest touch again and gets Halliday booked for doing very little.

We are capable of much better and wouldn't take much to get back into the game.



No mention of the booking on BBC?






He was booked.
Mainly because the Hull players pressurised the ref to do it.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 09:25:00 pm
..I hate us sneaking in the back door even more....

Are you on drugs.??

No, just think we play crap
Having a team that looks to struggle week in week out then nick a result is NOT my idea of being considered a contender for promotion....the teams that destroy others are those that can cope at a higher level....this team looks wonky!
I’m sure everyone can see how we are relying more on oodles of luck rather than skill and dominance......

We will not make the top 6 ..... our luck at staying IN games is running out

Go watch Man City then if you want to follow that sort of team..

Im a rovers fan.....just not delusional
Hence I don’t really get pi##ed off when we lose a game I expect us to lose based upon what I’m watching....what I don’t do is exaggerate our performances and try to explain away crap....

Personally I see us as a lower mid table team that lacks the consistency to make the top 6 , but the performances are getting worse and until that changes I’m sure my opinion won’t...
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 09:28:07 pm
Charlton are losing at home to lowly MK dons...... their fans must be apoplectic
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 09:29:15 pm
Finally, a shot! Off target but at least that's one.






I can remember a shot by Fej in the first half that hit a defender and went for a corner so those shooting stats must be wrong.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Metalmicky on December 02, 2020, 09:35:09 pm
Charlton are losing at home to lowly MK dons...... their fans must be apoplectic

And Shrewsbury beating Accrington also....
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: Janso on December 02, 2020, 09:36:58 pm
Finally, a shot! Off target but at least that's one.






I can remember a shot by Fej in the first half that hit a defender and went for a corner so those shooting stats must be wrong.

They don't get counted as "shots" if they're blocked, I remember seeing on here once. Ludicrous if true.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: sha66y on December 02, 2020, 09:37:56 pm
Charlton are losing at home to lowly MK dons...... their fans must be apoplectic

They probably are....but pointing out other teams failures does NOT make ours go away, ...

Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2020, 09:39:27 pm
Finally, a shot! Off target but at least that's one.






I can remember a shot by Fej in the first half that hit a defender and went for a corner so those shooting stats must be wrong.

They don't get counted as "shots" if they're blocked, I remember seeing on here once. Ludicrous if true.






It is true and it was me who posted it.
However I was just pointing out that we had not gone as far into the match without having a shot at goal as was being suggested.
Title: Re: Dull v TLOD
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 02, 2020, 10:31:26 pm
Finally, a shot! Off target but at least that's one.

Tonight's stats show we had 6 shots. Hull had 23. Nuff said.





I can remember a shot by Fej in the first half that hit a defender and went for a corner so those shooting stats must be wrong.

They don't get counted as "shots" if they're blocked, I remember seeing on here once. Ludicrous if true.






It is true and it was me who posted it.
However I was just pointing out that we had not gone as far into the match without having a shot at goal as was being suggested.