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Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:22:30 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:21:45 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:19:35 pmI think if anyone takes there political head off they will say he did what he needed and exactly what they would do?No, I don’t think they would. what would you do if you had a 4 year old and wouldn’t be able to look after him/her I've said precisely what I'd do. Have a friend or family member come and take them for a while.Very simple.
Quote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:21:45 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:19:35 pmI think if anyone takes there political head off they will say he did what he needed and exactly what they would do?No, I don’t think they would. what would you do if you had a 4 year old and wouldn’t be able to look after him/her
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:19:35 pmI think if anyone takes there political head off they will say he did what he needed and exactly what they would do?No, I don’t think they would.
I think if anyone takes there political head off they will say he did what he needed and exactly what they would do?
it’s not about the goverment it’s about a child but seemingly you scoring points is worth more than that child
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one.
Quote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?
That’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2020, 04:23:34 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:22:30 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:21:45 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:19:35 pmI think if anyone takes there political head off they will say he did what he needed and exactly what they would do?No, I don’t think they would. what would you do if you had a 4 year old and wouldn’t be able to look after him/her I've said precisely what I'd do. Have a friend or family member come and take them for a while.Very simple.Didn't a report say that their child suffered with breathing difficulties.It might be that the problem is a serious one and moving the child away from the parents or grandparents could make the condition worse through anxiety.There is much about this that isn't common knowledge and there is a lot of guesswork.I remember Filo telling us that he thought BJ was faking his illness.(sorry to bring that up Filo but it is relevant to this argument)
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:24:45 pmit’s not about the goverment it’s about a child but seemingly you scoring points is worth more than that child No it is not. You are utterly ignoring the central issue.Cummings chose to relocate his entire family. He did not need to do that. He could have had a friend of reltive take the child if he and his wife were incapable of looking after the bairn.But we only have his say so that they WERE incapable of looking after the bairn.His wife is on record as saying that she was capable of looking after Cummings.And a neighbour in Durham is on record as saying he saw Cummings dancing with the bairn in the garden.Which bits of that are you seeing as people playing politics with a kid's welfare?
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Jesus it's like swimming through treacle.So relatives coming to your house are more at risk than they are if you go to their house? God is like swimming in treacle he said he actually stayed in a different building to them so yes it’s very different
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2020, 04:30:15 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:24:45 pmit’s not about the goverment it’s about a child but seemingly you scoring points is worth more than that child No it is not. You are utterly ignoring the central issue.Cummings chose to relocate his entire family. He did not need to do that. He could have had a friend of reltive take the child if he and his wife were incapable of looking after the bairn.But we only have his say so that they WERE incapable of looking after the bairn.His wife is on record as saying that she was capable of looking after Cummings.And a neighbour in Durham is on record as saying he saw Cummings dancing with the bairn in the garden.Which bits of that are you seeing as people playing politics with a kid's welfare?Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2020, 04:30:15 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:24:45 pmit’s not about the goverment it’s about a child but seemingly you scoring points is worth more than that child No it is not. You are utterly ignoring the central issue.Cummings chose to relocate his entire family. He did not need to do that. He could have had a friend of reltive take the child if he and his wife were incapable of looking after the bairn.But we only have his say so that they WERE incapable of looking after the bairn.His wife is on record as saying that she was capable of looking after Cummings.And a neighbour in Durham is on record as saying he saw Cummings dancing with the bairn in the garden.Which bits of that are you seeing as people playing politics with a kid's welfare?Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2020, 04:30:15 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:24:45 pmit’s not about the goverment it’s about a child but seemingly you scoring points is worth more than that child No it is not. You are utterly ignoring the central issue.Cummings chose to relocate his entire family. He did not need to do that. He could have had a friend of reltive take the child if he and his wife were incapable of looking after the bairn.But we only have his say so that they WERE incapable of looking after the bairn.His wife is on record as saying that she was capable of looking after Cummings.And a neighbour in Durham is on record as saying he saw Cummings dancing with the bairn in the garden.Which bits of that are you seeing as people playing politics with a kid's welfare? how do you know that he did not need to? Someone says they saw him dancing around is there any proof? Maybe he was feeling better and was enjoying time with his child? Maybe when she said she was capable of looking after him she was feeling better or was recovering or any reason what so ever, we’re you there to no the timeline of everything or are you reading in a paper what you want to believe
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it. Not true as he stayed in a different building is it that hard to understand
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:35:59 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it. Not true as he stayed in a different building is it that hard to understand
So Shapps is implying due to the childcare circumstances then Cummings moving north was ok, but then says once you self isolate like that, you stay where you are.So why is Cummings not still in Durham.?
Asked if the PM knew about Dominic Cummings' movements, Grant Shapps says: "The important thing is that everyone remains in the same place while in lockdown, which is exactly what happened, so the PM would have known he was staying put."
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it.
Because he might be working, he might not be as I don’t no
Yes if that is possible that would be the best thing to do, was that possible?
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:38:50 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:35:59 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it. Not true as he stayed in a different building is it that hard to understand So have the relatives come to your house to pick up the bairn. hey can stay in the car. You take the bairn down the path and put him in the car.Which bit of that doesn't work? Which bit requires Cummings to unilaterally decide that the clear and binding national rules do not apply to him?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:35:59 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it. still waiting to see why you think it’s the same when he was in a different building?
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:42:54 pmYes if that is possible that would be the best thing to do, was that possible?If the welfare of the kid is paramount, I'd say that is absolutely essential.Or, at the very minimum, if Cummings was fit to drive, he could have driven the kid to the relatives.But no. He chose to relocate his entire family.
Quote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:44:01 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:35:59 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:32:29 pmQuote from: Glyn_Wigley on May 23, 2020, 04:27:32 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:25:15 pmQuote from: IDM on May 23, 2020, 04:24:33 pmThat’s not the point, they could look after the cold as is proven on the Spectator column.You would have one of your relatives come to you if necessary.what come and stay in your house?Go on then, please explain what makes going to their house different to them coming to yours.I can't wait for the answer to that one. because the virus is very contiguous and why risk other people catching it, also it is not very nice young children seeing and knowing there parents are very poorly, this virus is awful and upsetting even with mild to moderate symptoms, as I said in a earlier edited post yes the best thing if possible would someone coming to collect the child Still waiting to know what you think the difference is. As in both scenarios the virus is just as contagious and there's just as much danger of spreading it. still waiting to see why you think it’s the same when he was in a different building?The kid wasn't.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on May 23, 2020, 04:44:56 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on May 23, 2020, 04:42:54 pmYes if that is possible that would be the best thing to do, was that possible?If the welfare of the kid is paramount, I'd say that is absolutely essential.Or, at the very minimum, if Cummings was fit to drive, he could have driven the kid to the relatives.But no. He chose to relocate his entire family.he probably didn’t want to leave his poorly wife on her own