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Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?
Quote from: drfchound on August 22, 2021, 06:07:43 pmBlackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 22, 2021, 10:32:57 pmQuote from: drfchound on August 22, 2021, 06:07:43 pmBlackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow. are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it
Quote from: bpoolrover on August 22, 2021, 10:39:04 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on August 22, 2021, 10:32:57 pmQuote from: drfchound on August 22, 2021, 06:07:43 pmBlackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow. are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's itHe designated Pakistan and Bangladesh as Red Zones and the virus wasn't as bad there, go figure, work out the answer with hound and get back to me.
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 22, 2021, 10:44:11 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on August 22, 2021, 10:39:04 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on August 22, 2021, 10:32:57 pmQuote from: drfchound on August 22, 2021, 06:07:43 pmBlackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow. are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's itHe designated Pakistan and Bangladesh as Red Zones and the virus wasn't as bad there, go figure, work out the answer with hound and get back to me. you seem to know everything syd, all you seem to do is read papers ect all day and quote little snippets out of them, I doubt you actually ever leave the house and see the real world
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 22, 2021, 10:32:57 pmQuote from: drfchound on August 22, 2021, 06:07:43 pmBlackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.Nonsense The delta variant is popping up everywhere now, we had it early doors but unless you’re implying countries should keep the borders closed for ever, then it’s not the solution. As soon as New Zealand, Australia etc relax their borders they’re going to go the same way as we did. All they’re doing is delaying the inevitable Look at America, everybody lauded them for not having much of the delta at the beginning now it’s spreading like wildfire 115k new cases yesterday and ober 400 deaths
What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?
The roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-deltaSo that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.
Quote from: River Don on August 24, 2021, 07:15:06 amThe roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-deltaSo that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.I think booster jabs are inevitable RD for the foreseeable future.Whether we protect ourselves first or send it abroad is a good question but whichever way that goes there will be an opportunity for criticism from some people.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 08:56:55 amWhat would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 09:14:47 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 08:56:55 amWhat would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?
So in answer to my question, bar preventing a few other bits of travel would you do anything else? You've mainly talked past not future.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 03:02:14 pmSo in answer to my question, bar preventing a few other bits of travel would you do anything else? You've mainly talked past not future.A bit like Keir Starmer. He's good at pointing out errors others make in hindsight but has no ideas of his own.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 10:56:56 amQuote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 09:14:47 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 08:56:55 amWhat would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.
Quote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 11:06:04 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 10:56:56 amQuote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 09:14:47 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 08:56:55 amWhat would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.whose science would you have followed sage? Or Indy sage?
Quote from: drfchound on August 24, 2021, 09:35:45 amQuote from: River Don on August 24, 2021, 07:15:06 amThe roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-deltaSo that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.I think booster jabs are inevitable RD for the foreseeable future.Whether we protect ourselves first or send it abroad is a good question but whichever way that goes there will be an opportunity for criticism from some people.What would you do hound?
Quote from: bpoolrover on August 24, 2021, 10:20:02 pmQuote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 11:06:04 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 10:56:56 amQuote from: SydneyRover on August 24, 2021, 09:14:47 amQuote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on August 24, 2021, 08:56:55 amWhat would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.whose science would you have followed sage? Or Indy sage?A small child could see exactly what was happening in other countries that were ahead of us it wouldn't have taken a lot to do better, it's a pity we didn't have someone with the brains of a small child in charge aye bp?