Coronavirus

[SydneyRover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

[bpoolrover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it

[SydneyRover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it

He designated Pakistan and Bangladesh as Red Zones and the virus wasn't as bad there, go figure, work out the answer with hound and get back to me.

[drfchound]

“Sydney still obsessed with hound” shock.

[SydneyRover]

hound still obsessed with his own navel ..... shock, just a bit of fluff aye

[BillyStubbsTears]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it

But we DID close our border to people coming from Pakistan and Bangladesh in April, due to fears of the Delta virus. But we chose not to block travel from India which, as was well known at the time, Delta was already well established.

A few days later we signed a small trade deal with India. Coincidence, of course.

[bpoolrover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it

He designated Pakistan and Bangladesh as Red Zones and the virus wasn't as bad there, go figure, work out the answer with hound and get back to me.

you seem to know everything syd, all you seem to do is read papers ect all day and quote little snippets out of them, I doubt you actually ever leave the house and see the real world

[SydneyRover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

are your borders not closed to everyone? As above you can't close borders immediately there is a variant of interest, yes he could have possibly closed it quicker but the delta one was already here before that so it might have slowed it down a little that's it

He designated Pakistan and Bangladesh as Red Zones and the virus wasn't as bad there, go figure, work out the answer with hound and get back to me.

you seem to know everything syd, all you seem to do is read papers ect all day and quote little snippets out of them, I doubt you actually ever leave the house and see the real world

It's better than getting from the beano bp, and here you are telling me all about myself bp cheers

[BillyStubbsTears]

Still astonishing how Trump support and anti-vax attitudes go hand in hand in America.


Meanwhile, the Trump supporting Southern states like Louisiana, Mississippi, Arkansas, Florida and Alabama are seeing daily cases and in some cases, deaths per capita head towards or overtake the worst we saw last winter.

Just madness. And so unnecessary.

[SydneyRover]

There maybe signs of the tide turning Billy, at a rally the other day trump (yes trump) was telling them all to get vaccinated 'like I did' and they booed him.

[dickos1]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

Nonsense
The delta variant is popping up everywhere now, we had it early doors but unless you’re implying countries should keep the borders closed for ever, then it’s not the solution.
As soon as New Zealand, Australia etc relax their borders they’re going to go the same way as we did.
All they’re doing is delaying the inevitable

Look at America, everybody lauded them for not having much of the delta at the beginning now it’s spreading like wildfire 115k new cases yesterday and ober 400 deaths

[River Don]

The roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.

They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-delta

So that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.

[SydneyRover]

Blackpool, you didn’t suggest we close our borders be closed until the virus has gone did you?

Yep, spot on there hound if we'd had closed the borders to those coming from India it could have prevented thousands getting delta virus, too slow.

Nonsense
The delta variant is popping up everywhere now, we had it early doors but unless you’re implying countries should keep the borders closed for ever, then it’s not the solution.
As soon as New Zealand, Australia etc relax their borders they’re going to go the same way as we did.
All they’re doing is delaying the inevitable

Look at America, everybody lauded them for not having much of the delta at the beginning now it’s spreading like wildfire 115k new cases yesterday and ober 400 deaths

Oh dickos, ask yourself why we had it early doors, do you reckon it was anything to with the Indian community returning to the Manchester area and surrounds. Where were the biggest case loads very early doors?

While you're searching your memory banks have a look for where I suggested locking down forever, get yourself another straight-man.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

[SydneyRover]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

[drfchound]

The roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.

They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-delta

So that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.

I think booster jabs are inevitable RD for the foreseeable future.
Whether we protect ourselves first or send it abroad is a good question but whichever way that goes there will be an opportunity for criticism from some people.

[SydneyRover]

The roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.

They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-delta

So that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.

I think booster jabs are inevitable RD for the foreseeable future.
Whether we protect ourselves first or send it abroad is a good question but whichever way that goes there will be an opportunity for criticism from some people.

What would you do hound?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?

[SydneyRover]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?

I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.

I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

So in answer to my question, bar preventing a few other bits of travel would you do anything else?  You've mainly talked past not future.

[Axholme Lion]

So in answer to my question, bar preventing a few other bits of travel would you do anything else?  You've mainly talked past not future.

A bit like Keir Starmer. He's good at pointing out errors others make in hindsight but has no ideas of his own.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So in answer to my question, bar preventing a few other bits of travel would you do anything else?  You've mainly talked past not future.

A bit like Keir Starmer. He's good at pointing out errors others make in hindsight but has no ideas of his own.

Just ridiculous how this "Captain Hindsight" concept has taken hold. It shows how easily some folk can be led if they aren't prepared to engage their own brains.

For the record, here's a quick list off the top of my head of things that Starmer and the Labour party was saying we should do AT THE TIME that the Govt was f**king up on its decisions.

1) April 2021 - Restrict travel from India
2) December 2020 - Toughen up regulations over Xmas
3) November 2020 - Impose stricter restrictions than the Tier system.
4) October 2020 - Bring in sharp lockdown to slow down the outbreak.

On 2, Johnson criticised Starmer AT THE TIME for wanting to "cancel Xmas". Instead we delayed toughening restrictions and the number of cases and deaths (and the length of the inevitable lockdown when it finally did come) increased threefold.

On 4, the Tories were putting out adverts throughout October saying that Labour was the party who wanted lockdowns. The eventually they had to impose a lockdown. And then Johnson started calling Starmer "Captain Hindsight" for only criticising Govt action after the event.

All of what I have said above is established fact. You can inform yourself about it in 5 mins if you really want to. But I don't think you really want to, do you?

You are being treated like a brainless idiot by this "Hindsight" line. They assume you are too thick to realise you're being mislead.

[belton rover]

 ‘It shows how easily some folk can be led if they aren't prepared to engage their own brains.’

This is so true.

[selby]

 All you have to do is look at some of the peoples past posts about successive leaders of the Labour Party and how they have been sucked in to follow the leader for examples of that Belton, there has been some right educated idiots on show,

[Bentley Bullet]

I doubt there has ever been such evidence of confusing education with intelligence. It is complete confirmation that you can have a degree and still be an idiot.

[bpoolrover]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?

I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.

I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.

whose science would you have followed sage? Or Indy sage?

[SydneyRover]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?

I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.

I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.

whose science would you have followed sage? Or Indy sage?

A small child could see exactly what was happening in other countries that were ahead of us it wouldn't have taken a lot to do better, it's a pity we didn't have someone with the brains of a small child in charge aye bp?

[SydneyRover]

The roll out of a booster shot is bringing Covid levels down amongst over 50s in Israel. It's not clear whether this booster is engineered to provide protection against Delta but I'd expect it must be.

They've decided to roll it out to over 40s now.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/aug/24/coronavirus-live-news-hawaii-governor-wants-to-curb-travel-israel-boosters-beating-delta

So that leaves us with the dilemma, should we protect our own first or send more vaccine abroad.

I think booster jabs are inevitable RD for the foreseeable future.
Whether we protect ourselves first or send it abroad is a good question but whichever way that goes there will be an opportunity for criticism from some people.

What would you do hound?

Are you going to answer this or just shit stir, and wind up just like your mentor.

[bpoolrover]

What would you do now Sydney and for the coming months?

That wasn't the question pud, you tell me, I was saying that johnson was glacially slow to act would you like to comment on that?

You didn't ask me a question I asked you one? It's easy to say you wouldn't do something afterwards but what would you do for the rest of this year?

I'd say include India in the red zone along with Pakistan and Bangladesh and then take it from there pud, what would you do.

I would have followed the science followed the findings from Cygnus, locked down earlier at each crisis point until the vaccine rollout was completed as far as possible and wouldn't have freedom days nor eat out to get covid all that stuff, then maybe more mums, dads, grandparents, friends and neighbours would be still alive today and not so many people would have long covid. I would have allowed the purpose built entity to source all the ppe instead of giving the contracts to my chums and then maybe 600 medical stall would not have died pud. That's what I would have done, if you want to know what happens next ask those that supported johnson and those that still do, now we back at 100 deaths a day.

whose science would you have followed sage? Or Indy sage?

A small child could see exactly what was happening in other countries that were ahead of us it wouldn't have taken a lot to do better, it's a pity we didn't have someone with the brains of a small child in charge aye bp?

are you going to answer my question syd or just be rude and insult people as usual? You said you would follow the science whose science as there are many with different views?

[SydneyRover]

I'm just going to be rude today just like you are a lot of the time when you insult people's intelligence bp.