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Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on October 29, 2018, 03:42:37 pmQuote from: DonnyOsmond on October 29, 2018, 01:01:12 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?You agree with the tax dodging Etonian millionaires who want to make US poorer. Your opinion isn't valid.Why isn’t his opinion valid? I feel like I already said why...
Quote from: DonnyOsmond on October 29, 2018, 01:01:12 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?You agree with the tax dodging Etonian millionaires who want to make US poorer. Your opinion isn't valid.Why isn’t his opinion valid?
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?You agree with the tax dodging Etonian millionaires who want to make US poorer. Your opinion isn't valid.
But it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?
f**king hell the amount of times you've said "all politicians are the same" as if that validates what you're trying to argue in any way.
Quote from: RedJ on October 29, 2018, 10:30:13 pmf**king hell the amount of times you've said "all politicians are the same" as if that validates what you're trying to argue in any way. you have nothing to say apart from to swear In every sentence you write, does it make you feel big?
Are they not? Am I right that when you swear you feel like a big boy?
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 30, 2018, 01:00:14 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned. in what way is the tide turning, whatever social media you go on or ask people you know you will find very very few who have changed there mind, all that's happening is the people who voted remain are just becoming more vocal imo of course
I agree with Sidney for once this petition is a good thing all it needs now is for another 17 million people to sign it, i.e. A dammed sight more than voted to leave!
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 31, 2018, 02:26:53 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 30, 2018, 01:00:14 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned. in what way is the tide turning, whatever social media you go on or ask people you know you will find very very few who have changed there mind, all that's happening is the people who voted remain are just becoming more vocal imo of coursePlease respond to my statement that you can't get 2 million signatures.1 million people have actually signed to say they don't want berkshit and 700,000 got off their backsides to physically show they don't want to go back to serfdom land and 6 people walked into a bar in Harrogate to show the world they mean business and want bullshit, and you bpool make a ''what if'' statement. Brexit is about as convincing as colonising Mars if we make our world uninhabitable, Mars already is uninhabitable, why bother.Tell me, as I and others keep asking what are the advantages of leaving the EU.
Quote from: SydneyRover on October 31, 2018, 07:14:28 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 31, 2018, 02:26:53 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 30, 2018, 01:00:14 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned. in what way is the tide turning, whatever social media you go on or ask people you know you will find very very few who have changed there mind, all that's happening is the people who voted remain are just becoming more vocal imo of coursePlease respond to my statement that you can't get 2 million signatures.1 million people have actually signed to say they don't want berkshit and 700,000 got off their backsides to physically show they don't want to go back to serfdom land and 6 people walked into a bar in Harrogate to show the world they mean business and want bullshit, and you bpool make a ''what if'' statement. Brexit is about as convincing as colonising Mars if we make our world uninhabitable, Mars already is uninhabitable, why bother.Tell me, as I and others keep asking what are the advantages of leaving the EU.Here’s one. Currently, under EU law, the U.K. (and every other member state) is not allowed to carry out wholesale nationalisation of the Railways as it requires governments to open up the rail services to the markets. Leaving the EU will allow us (if Labour win the next election I’d guess) to carry out a renationalisation programme. Something we can’t do presently. In my opinion that’s a tangible advantage of leaving the EU.
Quote from: Herbert Anchovy on October 31, 2018, 08:00:36 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 31, 2018, 07:14:28 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 31, 2018, 02:26:53 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 30, 2018, 01:00:14 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned. in what way is the tide turning, whatever social media you go on or ask people you know you will find very very few who have changed there mind, all that's happening is the people who voted remain are just becoming more vocal imo of coursePlease respond to my statement that you can't get 2 million signatures.1 million people have actually signed to say they don't want berkshit and 700,000 got off their backsides to physically show they don't want to go back to serfdom land and 6 people walked into a bar in Harrogate to show the world they mean business and want bullshit, and you bpool make a ''what if'' statement. Brexit is about as convincing as colonising Mars if we make our world uninhabitable, Mars already is uninhabitable, why bother.Tell me, as I and others keep asking what are the advantages of leaving the EU.Here’s one. Currently, under EU law, the U.K. (and every other member state) is not allowed to carry out wholesale nationalisation of the Railways as it requires governments to open up the rail services to the markets. Leaving the EU will allow us (if Labour win the next election I’d guess) to carry out a renationalisation programme. Something we can’t do presently. In my opinion that’s a tangible advantage of leaving the EU. The UK is the only EU country that doesn't have some form of state-owned passenger rail service company operating. Subsidiaries of the German and Dutch state rail companies actually operate franchises in the UK! And you think the EU won't let British government do it?
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on October 31, 2018, 08:18:46 amQuote from: Herbert Anchovy on October 31, 2018, 08:00:36 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 31, 2018, 07:14:28 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 31, 2018, 02:26:53 amQuote from: SydneyRover on October 30, 2018, 01:00:14 amQuote from: bpoolrover on October 29, 2018, 12:36:41 pmBut it's nothing new Sydney, if I get 2 million people to sign a petition that they want brexit will you agree to it?The point is bpool you can't, the tide has turned. in what way is the tide turning, whatever social media you go on or ask people you know you will find very very few who have changed there mind, all that's happening is the people who voted remain are just becoming more vocal imo of coursePlease respond to my statement that you can't get 2 million signatures.1 million people have actually signed to say they don't want berkshit and 700,000 got off their backsides to physically show they don't want to go back to serfdom land and 6 people walked into a bar in Harrogate to show the world they mean business and want bullshit, and you bpool make a ''what if'' statement. Brexit is about as convincing as colonising Mars if we make our world uninhabitable, Mars already is uninhabitable, why bother.Tell me, as I and others keep asking what are the advantages of leaving the EU.Here’s one. Currently, under EU law, the U.K. (and every other member state) is not allowed to carry out wholesale nationalisation of the Railways as it requires governments to open up the rail services to the markets. Leaving the EU will allow us (if Labour win the next election I’d guess) to carry out a renationalisation programme. Something we can’t do presently. In my opinion that’s a tangible advantage of leaving the EU. The UK is the only EU country that doesn't have some form of state-owned passenger rail service company operating. Subsidiaries of the German and Dutch state rail companies actually operate franchises in the UK! And you think the EU won't let British government do it?So we could (govt' own) 99% of passenger rail if we wanted?
HerbertThat old canard keeps getting raised by Left supporters of Brexit. It's wrong. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/30/experts-reject-labour-leavers-argument-brussels-nationalisationI wonder why they keep banging on about it?
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 31, 2018, 12:29:08 pmHerbertThat old canard keeps getting raised by Left supporters of Brexit. It's wrong. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/30/experts-reject-labour-leavers-argument-brussels-nationalisationI wonder why they keep banging on about it?BillyUnder EU rules, the U.K. cannot fully nationalise the railways. It can part nationalise them, but not fully. The management of the infrastructure and the rail services have to be completely separate. This is why, in my original post I said that wholesale renationalisation of the railways is forbidden. Additionally, EU rules dictate that any rail route that has spare capacity or additional time slots for new services must be open to any rail operator to purchase. These two rules mean that it’s impossible to create a unified and nationalised rail monopoly. Interestingly, the EU has for sometime held up the UK’s private rail system as the perfect example of a nationwide private rail provision and has encouraged other member states to follow suit. Also, I don’t believe anything that I read in the newspapers, whether it’s the Guardian or the Mail. They’ve all got their own agendas.