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Quote from: River Don on April 13, 2022, 07:25:55 pmQuote from: idler on April 13, 2022, 07:21:32 pmWell the Justice Minister has resigned.That says a lot about what he thinks of Bojo.Ooofff, he's the second justice minister to walk. That's a blow.I wonder if things might start unraveling now.How many false dawns like this has there been? It all just washes of Johnson because he doesn't have a principled bone in his body.
Quote from: idler on April 13, 2022, 07:21:32 pmWell the Justice Minister has resigned.That says a lot about what he thinks of Bojo.Ooofff, he's the second justice minister to walk. That's a blow.I wonder if things might start unraveling now.
Well the Justice Minister has resigned.That says a lot about what he thinks of Bojo.
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on April 13, 2022, 07:08:10 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 13, 2022, 06:46:37 pmYou're wasting your time RD. He's beyond talking to. He's obsessed with the idea that, because Starmer once slipped up in an angry exchange in the House, said something wrong and corrected it shortly after, he's a liar just like Johnson is.Actually,vi suspect he doesn't really believe that, but he needs to claim he does just so he can make his point in here. Either way, he's beyond reasoning with. One day I'll stop biting. https://novaramedia.com/2021/09/29/keir-starmer-is-just-as-dishonest-as-boris-johnson/You haven't actually read that have you? And I assume you've no idea how much of a vendetta Aaron Bastani has for Starmer, Bastani being Corbyn's young Twitter attack dog.You are truly making yourself look stupid here BB by suggesting, as Bastani wants you to believe, that there's some kind of equality between lying on matters of objective truth, and changing policies in a way that certain groups of people don't like. If you genuinely don't get how dangerous Johnson's abuse if objective truth is, and how unique it is in our politics, you really should be ashamed of yourself.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on April 13, 2022, 06:46:37 pmYou're wasting your time RD. He's beyond talking to. He's obsessed with the idea that, because Starmer once slipped up in an angry exchange in the House, said something wrong and corrected it shortly after, he's a liar just like Johnson is.Actually,vi suspect he doesn't really believe that, but he needs to claim he does just so he can make his point in here. Either way, he's beyond reasoning with. One day I'll stop biting. https://novaramedia.com/2021/09/29/keir-starmer-is-just-as-dishonest-as-boris-johnson/
You're wasting your time RD. He's beyond talking to. He's obsessed with the idea that, because Starmer once slipped up in an angry exchange in the House, said something wrong and corrected it shortly after, he's a liar just like Johnson is.Actually,vi suspect he doesn't really believe that, but he needs to claim he does just so he can make his point in here. Either way, he's beyond reasoning with. One day I'll stop biting.
To confirm another point discussed:https://twitter.com/Greg_Callus/status/1513912694226788358?s=20&t=UI9EzE6MFvoCMfeF2-S0gwBobG
You talk about honesty when you want a Labour government to get into power by the only means it can with right-wing policies and then move to the left when it achieves it?Is that what you call honest?
If a political party publishes a manifesto and sticks to it, then the public knows roughly what it is getting when they vote.The public generally knows the Labour Party pushes things to the left and the Conservative party pushes right.It gets difficult when they start breaking manifesto pledges.
If labour win the next election there's an awful lot of labour supporters who will likely have to criticise them when they make the same changes or mistakes the conservatives have. Neither side can ever possibly get it right every time.
Quote from: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 14, 2022, 12:26:50 pmIf labour win the next election there's an awful lot of labour supporters who will likely have to criticise them when they make the same changes or mistakes the conservatives have. Neither side can ever possibly get it right every time.I think you mean an awful lot of very vocal recent and never-before members might criticise them.