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Quote from: GazLaz on March 09, 2024, 09:29:16 pmSurely if we are offering out contract extensions we have to judge players on their contribution over there time here. Not just the last few months when they are essentially playing for their livelihood. He’s been ok this season, he has ability and works hard, generally underwhelms me though. He’s put in some good performances recently as we all can see, he’s replaceable and replaceable with better imo.Yep, that clinches it for me.Give Moly another contract.
Surely if we are offering out contract extensions we have to judge players on their contribution over there time here. Not just the last few months when they are essentially playing for their livelihood. He’s been ok this season, he has ability and works hard, generally underwhelms me though. He’s put in some good performances recently as we all can see, he’s replaceable and replaceable with better imo.
Quote from: GazLaz on March 09, 2024, 09:29:16 pmSurely if we are offering out contract extensions we have to judge players on their contribution over there time here. Not just the last few months when they are essentially playing for their livelihood. He’s been ok this season, he has ability and works hard, generally underwhelms me though. He’s put in some good performances recently as we all can see, he’s replaceable and replaceable with better imo. Based on that would you offer Close an extension?
Any others out of contract I have missed?
Quote from: Silkscarf on March 10, 2024, 06:41:09 amQuote from: selby on March 09, 2024, 10:23:20 pm One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.Is that the level of insight needed to be a scout? Every team has at least 1 or 2 left-footers. They’re 10% of the population.So on averages then, only one left footer in every team.
Quote from: selby on March 09, 2024, 10:23:20 pm One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.Is that the level of insight needed to be a scout? Every team has at least 1 or 2 left-footers. They’re 10% of the population.
One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.
Quote from: andyst79 on March 10, 2024, 10:39:35 amQuote from: GazLaz on March 09, 2024, 09:29:16 pmSurely if we are offering out contract extensions we have to judge players on their contribution over there time here. Not just the last few months when they are essentially playing for their livelihood. He’s been ok this season, he has ability and works hard, generally underwhelms me though. He’s put in some good performances recently as we all can see, he’s replaceable and replaceable with better imo. Based on that would you offer Close an extension?The most important thing in offering contracts is value isn’t it? Would I give close an extension for £500 a week? Yes. £5k a week? No. It’s not binary is it really? I’d work out his value to the team, his performances vs an average L2 player in his position, then I’d factor the average L2 wage for a player in his position to that and work out what his actual value in monetary terms was. Obviously considering what his availability has been and any non quantifiable assets he brings. How do the club set a figure for these things? How do they decide if someone is worth 1000pw or 1200pw? Cant be paying too many players 20% more than they are worth and end up successful. Need to be able to apply a constant model to what you are prepared to remunerate players. Most clubs just guess essentially.
Quote from: drfchound on March 10, 2024, 08:11:16 amQuote from: Silkscarf on March 10, 2024, 06:41:09 amQuote from: selby on March 09, 2024, 10:23:20 pm One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.Is that the level of insight needed to be a scout? Every team has at least 1 or 2 left-footers. They’re 10% of the population.So on averages then, only one left footer in every team.Being left footed is a commodity in itself, I’d expect it to be much closer to 20% given it’s pretty standard to see a left footed left back, left winger, possibly a centre back etc.
Quote from: NickDRFC on March 10, 2024, 11:17:59 amQuote from: drfchound on March 10, 2024, 08:11:16 amQuote from: Silkscarf on March 10, 2024, 06:41:09 amQuote from: selby on March 09, 2024, 10:23:20 pm One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.Is that the level of insight needed to be a scout? Every team has at least 1 or 2 left-footers. They’re 10% of the population.So on averages then, only one left footer in every team.Being left footed is a commodity in itself, I’d expect it to be much closer to 20% given it’s pretty standard to see a left footed left back, left winger, possibly a centre back etc.That’s right, it is a commodity in itself. At least one or two in a team, preferably more. Obvious though, that’s the small point I was making.
We are getting in the trap here of trying to keep players who haven’t moved the club on in the time they have been here. McCann can only add so much - we go up by signing players better than we have. It is as simple as that. If we don’t sign several players better than those we are replacing, we will remain a bottom half League Two side.
Quote from: Chris Black come back on March 10, 2024, 11:35:35 amWe are getting in the trap here of trying to keep players who haven’t moved the club on in the time they have been here. McCann can only add so much - we go up by signing players better than we have. It is as simple as that. If we don’t sign several players better than those we are replacing, we will remain a bottom half League Two side. spot on. Some are being totally blinded by recent performances. Where were some of these players for the previous year and a half? We need to reduce the size of the squad and use that money on fewer but quality players.
Quote from: Silkscarf on March 10, 2024, 12:00:16 pmQuote from: NickDRFC on March 10, 2024, 11:17:59 amQuote from: drfchound on March 10, 2024, 08:11:16 amQuote from: Silkscarf on March 10, 2024, 06:41:09 amQuote from: selby on March 09, 2024, 10:23:20 pm One top half division 1 side other lower Championship unfair to say who, but both said he played well and left footed.Is that the level of insight needed to be a scout? Every team has at least 1 or 2 left-footers. They’re 10% of the population.So on averages then, only one left footer in every team.Being left footed is a commodity in itself, I’d expect it to be much closer to 20% given it’s pretty standard to see a left footed left back, left winger, possibly a centre back etc.That’s right, it is a commodity in itself. At least one or two in a team, preferably more. Obvious though, that’s the small point I was making.Yeah don’t disagree with it being obvious - easy job if that’s top of the report that they take back! My comment was more that it’s pretty uncommon to only have one left footer in a team and the percentage of professional footballers doesn’t have a correlation with the number of left handed (footed) people as part of the wider population.
Quote from: Cramby10 on March 10, 2024, 03:04:43 pmQuote from: Chris Black come back on March 10, 2024, 11:35:35 amWe are getting in the trap here of trying to keep players who haven’t moved the club on in the time they have been here. McCann can only add so much - we go up by signing players better than we have. It is as simple as that. If we don’t sign several players better than those we are replacing, we will remain a bottom half League Two side. spot on. Some are being totally blinded by recent performances. Where were some of these players for the previous year and a half? We need to reduce the size of the squad and use that money on fewer but quality players.Mainly injured I would guess
Quote from: Chris Black come back on March 10, 2024, 11:35:35 amWe are getting in the trap here of trying to keep players who haven’t moved the club on in the time they have been here. McCann can only add so much - we go up by signing players better than we have. It is as simple as that. If we don’t sign several players better than those we are replacing, we will remain a bottom half League Two side. This. A few half decent games and we should all of a sudden retain the bulk of the (bloated, expensive) squad that had us hovering above the trap door to non-league not long ago? Not for me.With the exception of Faulkner and possibly Maxwell we should be looking for better than all those out of contract. If we're serious about pushing for promotion, at least.