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This has been a fascinating social experiment.If we all wore masks in busy public situations, thousands fewer people would die. We wouldn't know them or have any connection with them, but there WOULD be many people who would live.Now. Imagine going back 2 years. Imagine being told that you had the choice between a relatively minor inconvenience that would save the lives of anonymous strangers. Or choosing not to inconvenience yourself, in which case strangers would be killed, quietly and privately.And imagine that person you were choosing to let the strangers die.I am genuinely disgusted by the lazy, self-centred lack of care and responsibility for fellow humans that so many have shown. I honestly thought we were better than this.
What was your comment between April and June Wilts? Negative by any chance?
Well, seeing as I ain't the best person to judge, you tell me the positive things you said twixt April and June.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 17, 2021, 09:14:22 pmThis has been a fascinating social experiment.If we all wore masks in busy public situations, thousands fewer people would die. We wouldn't know them or have any connection with them, but there WOULD be many people who would live.Now. Imagine going back 2 years. Imagine being told that you had the choice between a relatively minor inconvenience that would save the lives of anonymous strangers. Or choosing not to inconvenience yourself, in which case strangers would be killed, quietly and privately.And imagine that person you were choosing to let the strangers die.I am genuinely disgusted by the lazy, self-centred lack of care and responsibility for fellow humans that so many have shown. I honestly thought we were better than this. It is fascinating Billy. Most other countries in the developed world have kept covid restrictions in place to lower the number of infections and therefore deaths - to look after the health of their people.The Johnson government has let covid run wild with subsequents infections, illnesses and deaths as reported.And a certain section of the UK public support that. Fascinating.Fascism comes in small steps until the public are conditioned to act against their own interests - history tells us that time and time again.
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Not sure it's proven yet how long the protection lasts some scientists say it last longer than some others maybe not to the same level but still enough to stop serious illness, also it's not that there not giving boosters quickly as the can only give them six months after your last one, so in the next month they should rapidly speed them up
Within spitting distance of 50,000 cases a day now.How hard is it to wear a face mask in indoor public spaces?
Yes BP,I'm absolutely sure mask wearing indoors would slow down the rate of infections.The only way to enforce mask wearing indoors Would be bring other restrictions in with it, like in other countries mask wearing indoors with having no restrictions in pubs and at football would not work
Quote from: River Don on October 18, 2021, 07:43:07 pmYes BP,I'm absolutely sure mask wearing indoors would slow down the rate of infections.The only way to enforce mask wearing indoors Would be bring other restrictions in with it, like in other countries mask wearing indoors with having no restrictions in pubs and at football would not work We have to be realistic. We have to eat for instance. We don't want pubs and restaurants to go out of business. But anything we can do easily to slow the spread we should do. So, public transport, masks. Shopping, masks. Cinema, masks. Offices, masks. Infact if we can avoid the office we should.
The directive has always been to wear a mask where can't social distance anyway, and on most trains now it says it's mandatory to wear a face covering and no one listens to it hardly
The mood music has all been about returning to normal, and many have lowered their guard.Which is precisely the wrong thing to do!It is not only the rising number of cases that cause concern, alongside that is a new strain with higher rate of infection;https://www.ft.com/content/f1ec9d5d-9e02-4cc4-95e7-1dcbb1844d43This "son of Delta" is said to be 10% of new UK cases.Not looking too clever, certainly for those unvaccinated, and the numptocrats in Bozo's administration are not likely to have any easy answers!
Blackpool,The key point is whether the new strain is capable of resisting the current vaccines....we don't know yet!I agree that we all hope that is not the case.
Quote from: bpoolrover on October 18, 2021, 08:25:27 pmThe directive has always been to wear a mask where can't social distance anyway, and on most trains now it says it's mandatory to wear a face covering and no one listens to it hardly And this is where setting examples comes in. Which is why I have been genuinely shocked to see packed benches in Parliament with not a single Tory MP wearing a mask.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on October 18, 2021, 09:29:42 pmQuote from: bpoolrover on October 18, 2021, 08:25:27 pmThe directive has always been to wear a mask where can't social distance anyway, and on most trains now it says it's mandatory to wear a face covering and no one listens to it hardly And this is where setting examples comes in. Which is why I have been genuinely shocked to see packed benches in Parliament with not a single Tory MP wearing a mask. Well for total accuracy I did actually see 3 on the Govt Benches in one shot and I was a bit shocked as I "imagined" they had a collective view on going without masks to "reinforce" that Covid is behind us / in the rear view mirror / on the run - or whatever other label they want to useThe stats / anecdotes / Social media and oh yes the ONS Daily figures say with almost 50000 cases t'other day and 900 to 1000 dying each week - this is far from overI know which I am minded to believe