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Title: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: old lad on April 20, 2024, 10:15:00 pm
Talk is on Radio Cumbria between commentator and their manager are the disgraceful scenes after the 4th goal and some involvement with their keeper. The manager said it would be a shame for our club, if after all the hard work, we were deducted points.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 20, 2024, 10:17:38 pm
Talk is on Radio Cumbria between commentator and their manager are the disgraceful scenes after the 4th goal and some involvement with their keeper. The manager said it would be a shame for our club, if after all the hard work, we were deducted points.


3rd goal
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 20, 2024, 10:18:52 pm
He'll be emailing the EFL asking for it to happen. Worrying we'll take their spot... He's right to worry, we will be taking it.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 20, 2024, 10:21:59 pm
He says it was at the end of the game? And he spoke with the referee.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: adamtherover on April 20, 2024, 10:24:30 pm
If it happened CCTV needs to identify the morons and ban them for life!!!
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 20, 2024, 10:24:46 pm
There won’t be a points deduction.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 20, 2024, 10:25:04 pm
I can’t recall it ever happening before. Fine maybe, but not a points deduction.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Ryaldinhio on April 20, 2024, 10:33:25 pm
Birmingham City only got fine when that lad ran on and punched Grealish.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: old lad on April 20, 2024, 10:34:51 pm
If it happened CCTV needs to identify the morons and ban them for life!!!
Should be banned whatever. There is no excuse.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: ncRover on April 20, 2024, 10:37:19 pm
Birmingham City only got fine when that lad ran on and punched Grealish.

Same with Forest for when Sharp got punched?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Thorney on April 20, 2024, 10:37:57 pm
He says it was at the end of the game? And he spoke with the referee.

Nobody ran on the pitch after the final whistle? Well i didnt notice anyway.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 20, 2024, 10:38:10 pm
In mitigation, I think the club with the amount of stewards in position, did everything possible to prevent it. I can see us having to take additional steps with identifying and banning a number of the morons who went beyond just boisterous celebrations, and maybe having to erect more barriers at a cost we could do without plus a probable fine.

I wish I could be confident about it though  and hope the club and the vast majority of well behaved fans don't get punished too severely after all this effort.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: StocksArmy on April 20, 2024, 10:46:17 pm
It was the 4th goal. I saw the keeper react to something and then when he turned around there was some fat little 15yr old hurling directly at him. It was a shitshow and an embarrassment on our part and they had my full respect to run on and protect their players. There are some complete whoppers amongst every set of fans but, harsh to blame stewards to control the amount that ran on. To give the club a deduction would be a disgrace from the EFL. I just caht see that happening.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 20, 2024, 10:46:57 pm
In another post by Nudga, there seems to be some doubt that anyone touched their keeper, but that he threw a youngster to the floor!

Not condoning anyone going on the pitch but the way the Barrow manager is spouting off!

Sour grapes comes to mind?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 20, 2024, 10:53:00 pm
If their player was assaulted, they should identify and deal with the culprits. Why should the club and the rest of the supporters be held responsible for the actions of a few out-of-control idiots?

They don't penalise airline companies and innocent travellers when a plane is hijacked, do they?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Nudga on April 20, 2024, 10:54:47 pm
The keeper was not assaulted.


https://twitter.com/ChrisNeedh72549/status/1781802978103427401?t=E4vbu3PpZrvSkZj0x-HRlQ&s=19
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Pancho Regan on April 20, 2024, 11:35:20 pm
The keeper was not assaulted.


https://twitter.com/ChrisNeedh72549/status/1781802978103427401?t=E4vbu3PpZrvSkZj0x-HRlQ&s=19

That is a crucial piece of video evidence Nudga.

I’m not sure what is being claimed by Barrow’s manager, and I’ve read a couple of posts on the Barrow forum claiming their keeper was assaulted during the pitch invasion, but that video shows that the keeper actually ‘assaults’ a fan.

Not in any way condoning a pitch invasion because those involved are idiots, but this is key evidence.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfcsteve on April 20, 2024, 11:37:39 pm
In another post by Nudga, there seems to be some doubt that anyone touched their keeper, but that he threw a youngster to the floor!

Not condoning anyone going on the pitch but the way the Barrow manager is spouting off!

Sour grapes comes to mind?

If shoe was on the other foot I’d expect McCaan to be spouting off about it. Would have been very easy for one of our morons to assault their players, that’s why you’re not allowed on the pitch.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Nudga on April 20, 2024, 11:38:19 pm
Wild said the keeper was violently assaulted.
The keeper was initially in a safe space until he decided to walk back 20 yards into the thick of it, then it's him that assaults a young lad.
Not condoning the pitch invasion either but we can't have false allegations levelled at us.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Sprotyrover on April 20, 2024, 11:49:46 pm
Wild said the keeper was violently assaulted.
The keeper was initially in a safe space until he decided to walk back 20 yards into the thick of it, then it's him that assaults a young lad.
Not condoning the pitch invasion either but we can't have false allegations levelled at us.
That is spot on Nudga he walks out of the way then deliberately puts himself back in it and does a Judo throw on some fat kid running past him no doubt taunting him but his response is not justified, the was an assault committed by him! Not on him!
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: mushRTID on April 20, 2024, 11:55:09 pm
Before the goalie got in a self inflicted tangle one of their defenders also tried to stamp on/trip up one of our fans too.

As others have said, not condoning a pitch invasion but their players gave some out.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 21, 2024, 12:01:23 am
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we now live in a country full of bad losers. Nob heads running on the pitch just provide ammunition in this instance.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 21, 2024, 12:06:16 am
The EFL surely have to act within their own rules. Is anyone aware of a Rule that carries this sanction?

Serious spectator misbehaviour usually carries the sanction of playing behind closed doors.

If there were a points deduction the club would appeal and it could well affect the outcome of the play-offs - the teams involved or the final positions, either of which would have a chaotic outcome for  promotion via the Play-offs.

It seems like scaremongering to me, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Colin C No.3 on April 21, 2024, 12:10:21 am
Mindless, self indulgent idiots.

“Look at me I’m on the pitch because I love this club so much & want to share my joy with you all”.

Feck off.

It’ll be a fine at worst.

Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 21, 2024, 12:20:56 am
I did find this: https://wokingham.today/reading-handed-suspended-three-point-deduction-by-efl-for-pitch-invasion/

The match in question had to be abandoned and the 3 point penalty was suspended. So I don’t think we have too much to worry about.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Drover on April 21, 2024, 12:36:52 am
Hope we play them in play offs and trounce them now,mardy ar5e.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: mushRTID on April 21, 2024, 12:39:34 am
Hope we play them in play offs and trounce them now,mardy ar5e.

Honestly think we are going to, got that feeling.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Move DRFC on April 21, 2024, 01:30:05 am
It’s daft they ran on the pitch but surely the excitement and emotion just got the better of them. They’ve goaded their keeper and maybe the defenders, no assault clearly. Nothing story. Fine us and move on.

Everyone will run when we get to Wembley anyway
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 21, 2024, 01:33:09 am
The keeper was not assaulted.


https://twitter.com/ChrisNeedh72549/status/1781802978103427401?t=E4vbu3PpZrvSkZj0x-HRlQ&s=19

Wild claimed Farman was assaulted and he and his bench ran onto the pitch to prevent him being beaten up. Fans should stay off the pitch but Wild is trying to stoke something up. The video is vital.

Sour grapes and fearful of getting us in the playoffs should we make it.

Drama queen. I’ve seen worse outside school when I was 7.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: roversdude on April 21, 2024, 06:29:07 am
It’s daft they ran on the pitch but surely the excitement and emotion just got the better of them. They’ve goaded their keeper and maybe the defenders, no assault clearly. Nothing story. Fine us and move on.

Everyone will run when we get to Wembley anyway

The excitement and emotion got the better of me but at no point would I have run on the pitch
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: karlos on April 21, 2024, 06:53:16 am
The fans shouldn’t be on the pitch full stop, however if the keeper as assaulted a fan and not the other way round shouldn’t he be suspended?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfcsteve on April 21, 2024, 07:01:20 am
The fans shouldn’t be on the pitch full stop, however if the keeper as assaulted a fan and not the other way round shouldn’t he be suspended?

Not really if the fan shouldn’t be on the pitch in the first place.

Anyway statement from the club now up. Hopefully plenty of video evidence to ban the morons.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 21, 2024, 07:16:12 am
The fans shouldn’t be on the pitch full stop, however if the keeper as assaulted a fan and not the other way round shouldn’t he be suspended?

It's quite clear they've exaggerated what happened. I think it's clear there's some verbals to the keeper (not right) and he did probably feel quite intimidated which is not at all right.  So the exaggeration doesn't exclude that because the idiots shouldn't be on the pitch.

But he's clearly not assaulted.  I've no idea why he goes back in to an area full of fans if he is intimidated though, that's odd.

Thought their defender giving verbals to the family stand after the second goal got his comeuppance though.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 21, 2024, 07:20:07 am
Also, what's with their defender full on pelting the ball in to the stand? Bizarre.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: LondonRover1 on April 21, 2024, 07:32:03 am
Sky bet will be pushing for a points deduction so they don't have to pay out on our top half bets!

Whether or not they are exaggerating is one thing but those morons should never have been on the pitch. They damage the reputation of a club as a whole.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Park Rover on April 21, 2024, 07:37:51 am
The only reason their bench ran onto the pitch was because they obviously know what their keeper is like, clearly an hot head. Watched him throughout the game, He clearly deliberately kicked the ball at Ironsides when he just stood near him, then panicked and scrambled to collect the ball: when Ironsides was waiting to take the penalty, he was in his face and refused to go on the line, when you watch the clip he walks in to the fans from a safe place and body slams the fan to the floor ( not defending the fans who ran onto the pitch at all) This was a clear assault by the keeper and that fan should complain to the Police, Their manager is trying to deflect from their keepers actions: if this was investigated by the FA/Police, wouldn’t it be a shame if the Keeper was banned for the play offs !
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: wilts rover on April 21, 2024, 07:44:00 am
The fans shouldn’t be on the pitch full stop, however if the keeper as assaulted a fan and not the other way round shouldn’t he be suspended?

Not really if the fan shouldn’t be on the pitch in the first place.

Anyway statement from the club now up. Hopefully plenty of video evidence to ban the morons.

Has the statement been taken down as I can't see one? There is one about the club being under investigation for a pitch invasion at the Accrington Stanley game  - and warning of possible EFL sanctions should it happen against Barrow!!! - but I can't find anything about the Barrow pitch invasion?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: IDM on April 21, 2024, 08:34:09 am
Surely there’s no time for a points deduction hearing - and potential appeal - between now and the play offs..?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: ChrisBx on April 21, 2024, 08:36:21 am
Absolutely no chance of a points deduction. There's no precedent and it wouldn't be proportionate in the circumstances.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: anton123 on April 21, 2024, 08:48:58 am
There has been loads of pitch invasions this weekend form numerous teams , are they been talked about having points deducted? , if keeper was assaulted then maybe a case but he clearly wasn’t so that’s the end of the matter , probably a 30k fine at most
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: dknward2 on April 21, 2024, 08:59:40 am
So if it is 30k fine let's say that could cost us signing someone or making improvements to the training ground the 50 or so people that came on the pitch need to be charged and invoiced somehow to cover the fine.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: mushRTID on April 21, 2024, 09:02:03 am
I hope we highlight that their keeper has actually manhandled a fan.

Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Pside on April 21, 2024, 09:04:20 am
Club just made a statement
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 21, 2024, 09:10:27 am
Class A drugs and 15 year olds aren't a good combination
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 21, 2024, 09:10:59 am
What should concern us now is fans behavior at Colchester and Gillingham. Under these circumstances, is it a wise move to request more tickets for Gillingham?

Probs best to wait for the dust to settle and let the club decide what's best.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: wilts rover on April 21, 2024, 09:28:01 am
Club statement on Barrow now up

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2024/april/crowd-statement/
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: silent majority on April 21, 2024, 10:10:58 am
Maybe those moaning about ticket restrictions for away games need to think again.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 21, 2024, 10:18:57 am
Maybe those moaning about ticket restrictions for away games need to think again.

On the flip side, perhaps the minority shouldn't harm the majority.  Just monitor and ban the trouble causers.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 21, 2024, 10:23:07 am
Hopefully the Barrow goalkeeper will do the right thing and send flowers to the fan he threw the ground.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 21, 2024, 10:27:58 am
Club statement on Barrow now up

https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2024/april/crowd-statement/

Crowd 'trouble', really? That's a very loaded term isn't it synonymous, let's be honest, with football violence but we're talking here about a few kids and idiots who got excited.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfcsteve on April 21, 2024, 10:41:40 am
I’d say it was a few kids but plenty of grown men that can’t handle their ale and went for the sole purpose of trying to punch a steward.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: silent majority on April 21, 2024, 10:44:07 am
Maybe those moaning about ticket restrictions for away games need to think again.

On the flip side, perhaps the minority shouldn't harm the majority.  Just monitor and ban the trouble causers.

You can only ban supporters from your home games. The restrictions are designed to prevent those banned from attending away games and getting the club into trouble.

The problems the club had at Stockport earlier in the season justified all the restrictions the club imposed.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: TonySoprano on April 21, 2024, 10:49:16 am
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Peebles Rover on April 21, 2024, 11:01:35 am
Can’t blame anyone for celebrating the way they did? Yes you can. There’s no excuse.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfcsteve on April 21, 2024, 11:06:42 am
The vast majority of the crowd have experienced 3 years of shit and managed to celebrate without being a bell. I’ve never felt the need to celebrate by punching a steward and anyone that does I don’t want in the Eco Power.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Silkscarf on April 21, 2024, 11:09:41 am
Morons invading the pitch. No excuse for it.

Similar morons on the forum earlier in the season are thankfully far less common now.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: streathamdave on April 21, 2024, 12:23:32 pm
No one should be running onto pitch, even less so causing bother. I expect club will get a fine and quite a few banning orders will be made. Seperate from this though the chants from Barrow fans were a total disgrace . I had a friend from Barrow at Uni so I know that some of them are OK. Before anyone asks, I'm not adding details here.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 21, 2024, 12:32:45 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

You need to have another think. You can see with most of them it was premeditated not spontaneous. The goals were just the trigger for them to make their move from where they positioned themselves. They knew exactly what they were doing, and they knew the consequences.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: colincramb on April 21, 2024, 12:46:47 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Grow up pal
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: vaya on April 21, 2024, 12:50:10 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Poundland Danny Dyer.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Jonathan on April 21, 2024, 01:32:53 pm
Zero case for a points deduction. There’s little the club can do to stop attention seeking idiots from running onto the pitch for their moment in the sun. You can see the stewards trying, but it’s just not possible. In the end little happened, it’s clear that no player was assaulted and it was quickly contained. But the fans shouldn’t be on the pitch regardless.

I’ve never got this “visceral outpouring of emotion” argument for a pitch invasion, probably because it’s complete and utter b*llocks. I suspect most people will have experienced a genuine visceral outpouring of emotion in the moment yesterday. Then we had a small number that couldn’t let that moment deter their quest for a moment of pure vanity, so they consciously elected to make their way to the front, climb the fence and get their phones out to film that apparently uncontrollable moment. All a bit sad really but it takes all sorts.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: wilts rover on April 21, 2024, 01:36:50 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Poundland Danny Dyer.

I think you will find its Netto Danny Dyer.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: TonySoprano on April 21, 2024, 02:08:32 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Poundland Danny Dyer.
Bless ya, nice as it is living rent free in your head, I'd suggest getting a new hobby. Perhaps stamp collecting, you could even do it in the quiet room at the eco power the next time it's gets too noisy for you.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: The Beast on April 21, 2024, 02:12:55 pm
They threw a flair on when they scored and their players goaded the fans, our fans ran on the pitch and gave a bit of verbal to their keeper when we scored, after the keeper had performed 60 minutes of shit housery. No assault, lessons to be learned by the club, anyone laying a glove on their players should be banned accordingly but nothing really to see here, Barrow just a bit salty, as you would probably be in their position.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: vaya on April 21, 2024, 02:53:20 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Poundland Danny Dyer.
Bless ya, nice as it is living rent free in your head, I'd suggest getting a new hobby. Perhaps stamp collecting, you could even do it in the quiet room at the eco power the next time it's gets too noisy for you.

Cheers Danny. Really enjoyed Human Traffic btw. Rest of the stuff's not been great though.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: graingrover on April 21, 2024, 03:13:16 pm

Let’s hope they are easier to identify than the other destructive group ,Netto !
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfcsteve on April 21, 2024, 03:38:00 pm
It’s in the clubs best interested to ban anyone they can identify, these people will cost the club more money in fines than they spend on tickets.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Campsall rover on April 21, 2024, 04:12:48 pm
Did the players get the opportunity to do a lap of honour after the game?
I left after the final whistle. While I understand it’s the last match and the players always do their customary walk round the pitch for the fans the only lap of honour I am really interested in is the one at Wembley after we win the Play Off Final.  :)
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Sprotyrover on April 21, 2024, 04:51:49 pm
Yes they came out and walked around applauding
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 21, 2024, 05:09:36 pm
Absolutely no chance of a points deduction. There's no precedent and it wouldn't be proportionate in the circumstances.

The only recent precedent was the Reading incident and I have provided a link earlier ind the thread. That was actually a suspended 3 point penalty in different circumstances. I can recall numerous invasions by celebrating fans and quite sensibly you cannot blame the club. In exercising control, modern stewards are not paid to engage in the kind of force or the extensive use of it which would be needed to restrain hundreds of celebrating football fans. And their motivation is not aggressive, yes it’s crowd disorder, but essentially an expression of joy.

Throwing flares on to the pitch is probably more dangerous and provocative and I’m not sure that any action is taken by the EFL when that happens.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 21, 2024, 05:58:03 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

Poundland Danny Dyer.

I think you will find its Netto Danny Dyer.

Who was probably not at the game yesterday…
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 21, 2024, 06:14:36 pm
Ironic int it?

The Netto bell ends complain that Bramall doesn't spend enough.

Then their indulgence of their childish egos will probably require Bramall to cover a £50k fine.

You do wonder how some folk manage to learn to wipe their own arses.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: MachoMadness on April 21, 2024, 06:31:24 pm
The club has to put that statement out to mitigate any potential punishment. I think it's all a bit of a storm in a teacup to be honest. It's a pitch invasion, ultimately harmless, after one of the best games we've seen in recent history. Trying to legislate raw emotion out of the game is daft.

Someone runs into their keeper, the keeper throws them over, fan goes back to his seat, no one gets hurt. Doesn't need to be any more than that surely?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: adamtherover on April 21, 2024, 06:32:05 pm
One potentially dangerous incident yesterday that's gone unnoticed, was that a bell end ran up to I think it was haks, after the 4th goal, tried to slow down, slipped, and nearly took him out two footed ffs... Can u imagine if we had lost him for the rest of the season due to the actions of a moron!!!! Jeez..
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 21, 2024, 06:32:25 pm
It was stupid but hardly Millwall at Luton.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Pancho Regan on April 21, 2024, 06:49:08 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell

What is pathetic is your attempt to excuse and condone the actions of those idiotic morons who encroached onto the pitch yesterday.

I, and those around me, went totally berserk when our goals were scored. But we did so from our seats. We felt no need to make our way to the perimeter, jump over, evade the stewards and run onto the pitch.

There is absolutely no justification for this.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 21, 2024, 08:02:49 pm
https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/24267978.wilds-anger-assaulton-keeper/

Wild claims….
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: old lad on April 21, 2024, 08:06:36 pm
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell
R U for real? You can’t blame people for that?
Can’t they control themselves?
How pathetic are you?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: idler on April 21, 2024, 08:08:57 pm
Celebrating in our seats, fist pumping and hugging strangers. That was enough for us. Why go onto the pitch and potentially disrupt our players?
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Upton Rover on April 21, 2024, 08:27:49 pm
Wrexham and Stockport fans were on the pitch just last week, it should never happen, but a points reduction would never happen.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: mushRTID on April 21, 2024, 08:34:30 pm
https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/24267978.wilds-anger-assaulton-keeper/

Wild claims….


Wild has openly announced in the press a complete lie. There is only one assault involving their goalkeeper and it ended with him flipping a youth to the ground.

He obviously hasn’t seen a reply or video of the incident before making these false claims.

His goalkeeper has made him look an idiot.

Not much been said about them booting the ball into the south stand either..
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: MachoMadness on April 21, 2024, 08:43:10 pm
I will say that I saw at least 3-4 people in the south stand carrying seats they'd ripped off. Invading the pitch is whatever, arguably shouldn't happen in this day and age but also it's football. Vandalising your own ground on the other hand is the height of dipshittery. Just embarrassing.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: drfchound on April 21, 2024, 08:57:28 pm
I will say that I saw at least 3-4 people in the south stand carrying seats they'd ripped off. Invading the pitch is whatever, arguably shouldn't happen in this day and age but also it's football. Vandalising your own ground on the other hand is the height of dipshittery. Just embarrassing.

Probably the same lads that I saw coming away from Blundell Park after the Grimsby game, both of them carrying a broken plastic seat which they dumped into the front garden of a terraced house.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Peebles Rover on April 21, 2024, 09:47:01 pm
https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/24267978.wilds-anger-assaulton-keeper/

Wild claims….


As an aside, he’s a bit derogatory saying Doncaster just played gung ho football and chucked players forward.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: mushRTID on April 22, 2024, 08:14:01 am
https://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/24267978.wilds-anger-assaulton-keeper/

Wild claims….


As an aside, he’s a bit derogatory saying Doncaster just played gung ho football and chucked players forward.

We've not been given that much credit by any team during this run i dont think.

Its always been their mistakes, gung ho football etc.

We are the best team in the league since the end of January and have just blown away a play off team in 45 minutes of football.

I genuinely dont believe anybody is going to stop us.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DRFC_AjA on April 22, 2024, 09:29:40 am
Wave bye bye to unreserved seating in the South?

Super easy to identify someone who runs on the pitch or rips a seat if they've got a designated seat. Rewind the CCTV and see where they were sat and check their name. Yeah easily beaten by just not sitting in your seat but what else could the club do? Cheers to those who think jumping a barrier shows more passion than someone who doesn't
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: IDM on April 22, 2024, 09:38:38 am
That’s the point though, they don’t think..
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: colincramb on April 22, 2024, 09:45:32 am
Wasn’t just the pitch invasion. As I left the west stand I witnessed some of our’ fans ‘jump over the fencing around their coaches and then proceed to throw punches at away fans. All of them about 3 stone wet through. Thoroughly embarrassing and not a good look. Equally shambolic was the lack of police presence to prevent it.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Mike_F on April 22, 2024, 09:53:16 am
As embarrassing and unnecessary as the pitch invasions were, I would very much doubt that there will be any serious talk of a points deduction.

If the authorities did start using that as a punishment there'd be nothing to stop fans of another club getting tickets for a rival's home end and running on the pitch to cause such a sanction.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: roversdude on April 22, 2024, 10:03:26 am
I really used to like Wild but he’s gone way down in my estimation after this weekend.
We played football that he couldn’t cope with end of
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Upton Rover on April 22, 2024, 10:39:06 am
Can't blame anyone for celebrating the way they did.
It was a visceral outpour of emotion after witnessing an epic comeback, in the last home game of an epic season.

It was about the moment, it was about the last 3/4 years of absolute shit, it was the realisation that were no longer shit, and we've got our club back.

Even mcann got a booking for celebrating the way he did.

The only thing that should come of this is an apology from Pete wild for his lie, and their keeper for assaulting the Rovers fan.

It's quite pathetic by rovers for calling it crowd trouble aswell
R U for real? You can’t blame people for that?
Can’t they control themselves?
How pathetic are you?
GM celebrated by running up the touch line, not on the pitch like the idiots that did, run to the advertising boards are acceptable, but keep off the pitch, a handful of idiots spoilt it for the rest of the fans and the team
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 22, 2024, 10:47:49 am
I will say that I saw at least 3-4 people in the south stand carrying seats they'd ripped off. Invading the pitch is whatever, arguably shouldn't happen in this day and age but also it's football. Vandalising your own ground on the other hand is the height of dipshittery. Just embarrassing.

Probably the same lads that I saw coming away from Blundell Park after the Grimsby game, both of them carrying a broken plastic seat which they dumped into the front garden of a terraced house.

These bellends don't care about DRFC only themselves and their cred amongst their mates. None of those who invaded the pitch, bar one, were wearing any club colours. These types will not take any notice of allocated seats just as they don't at away matches. These aspiring thugs I would normally associate with a club in West Yorkshire, but I hear folk say, every clubs got 'em. If identified, they'll take a ban quite happily as a badge of honour, so give them what they deserve.

Unfortunately it's brought further attention to us of the wrong kind and we'll be forced to take additional preventative measures. Not sure whether a Wembley style virtual Moat is appropriate and/or putting netting across the first couple of rows of seats with a strictly no standing zone in-between.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: Sprotyrover on April 22, 2024, 11:08:01 am
Wasn’t just the pitch invasion. As I left the west stand I witnessed some of our’ fans ‘jump over the fencing around their coaches and then proceed to throw punches at away fans. All of them about 3 stone wet through. Thoroughly embarrassing and not a good look. Equally shambolic was the lack of police presence to prevent it.
The club declared it Police free, and there has been no history of trouble between Barriw and Rovers , it seems the large contingent of Extra stewards were just clueless picked off the streets.barrow were badly behaved and their Coaches dropped them off in the Town centre where they congregated in the Market pubs !
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: TonySoprano on April 22, 2024, 11:53:53 am
Wrexham and Stockport fans were on the pitch just last week, it should never happen, but a points reduction would never happen.
Bet they don't have half a dozen anorak roy cropper types moaning about it on their forum.
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: JonWallsend on April 22, 2024, 03:14:31 pm
Wrexham and Stockport fans were on the pitch just last week, it should never happen, but a points reduction would never happen.
Bet they don't have half a dozen anorak roy cropper types moaning about it on their forum.
Tony, when you're in a hole......
Title: Re: Possible points deduction ?
Post by: IDM on April 23, 2024, 08:02:52 am
The pitch incursion and alleged “assault” happened on Saturday, and now on Tuesday there’s absolutely nowt (BBC sport league 2 page for example) suggesting a points deduction could happen. It would need to be done, with time for any potential appeal, before the play offs.

I don’t think it will happen anyway.