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old lad

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Possible points deduction ?
« on April 20, 2024, 10:15:00 pm by old lad »
Talk is on Radio Cumbria between commentator and their manager are the disgraceful scenes after the 4th goal and some involvement with their keeper. The manager said it would be a shame for our club, if after all the hard work, we were deducted points.



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Padge_DRFC

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #1 on April 20, 2024, 10:17:38 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Talk is on Radio Cumbria between commentator and their manager are the disgraceful scenes after the 4th goal and some involvement with their keeper. The manager said it would be a shame for our club, if after all the hard work, we were deducted points.


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DonnyOsmond

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #2 on April 20, 2024, 10:18:52 pm by DonnyOsmond »
He'll be emailing the EFL asking for it to happen. Worrying we'll take their spot... He's right to worry, we will be taking it.

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #3 on April 20, 2024, 10:21:59 pm by PDX_Rover »
He says it was at the end of the game? And he spoke with the referee.

adamtherover

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #4 on April 20, 2024, 10:24:30 pm by adamtherover »
If it happened CCTV needs to identify the morons and ban them for life!!!

PDX_Rover

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #5 on April 20, 2024, 10:24:46 pm by PDX_Rover »
There won’t be a points deduction.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #6 on April 20, 2024, 10:25:04 pm by Alan Southstand »
I can’t recall it ever happening before. Fine maybe, but not a points deduction.

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #7 on April 20, 2024, 10:33:25 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Birmingham City only got fine when that lad ran on and punched Grealish.

old lad

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #8 on April 20, 2024, 10:34:51 pm by old lad »
If it happened CCTV needs to identify the morons and ban them for life!!!
Should be banned whatever. There is no excuse.

ncRover

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« Reply #9 on April 20, 2024, 10:37:19 pm by ncRover »
Birmingham City only got fine when that lad ran on and punched Grealish.

Same with Forest for when Sharp got punched?

Thorney

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« Reply #10 on April 20, 2024, 10:37:57 pm by Thorney »
He says it was at the end of the game? And he spoke with the referee.

Nobody ran on the pitch after the final whistle? Well i didnt notice anyway.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #11 on April 20, 2024, 10:38:10 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
In mitigation, I think the club with the amount of stewards in position, did everything possible to prevent it. I can see us having to take additional steps with identifying and banning a number of the morons who went beyond just boisterous celebrations, and maybe having to erect more barriers at a cost we could do without plus a probable fine.

I wish I could be confident about it though  and hope the club and the vast majority of well behaved fans don't get punished too severely after all this effort.

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #12 on April 20, 2024, 10:46:17 pm by StocksArmy »
It was the 4th goal. I saw the keeper react to something and then when he turned around there was some fat little 15yr old hurling directly at him. It was a shitshow and an embarrassment on our part and they had my full respect to run on and protect their players. There are some complete whoppers amongst every set of fans but, harsh to blame stewards to control the amount that ran on. To give the club a deduction would be a disgrace from the EFL. I just caht see that happening.

Alan Southstand

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« Reply #13 on April 20, 2024, 10:46:57 pm by Alan Southstand »
In another post by Nudga, there seems to be some doubt that anyone touched their keeper, but that he threw a youngster to the floor!

Not condoning anyone going on the pitch but the way the Barrow manager is spouting off!

Sour grapes comes to mind?

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #14 on April 20, 2024, 10:53:00 pm by Bentley Bullet »
If their player was assaulted, they should identify and deal with the culprits. Why should the club and the rest of the supporters be held responsible for the actions of a few out-of-control idiots?

They don't penalise airline companies and innocent travellers when a plane is hijacked, do they?

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Pancho Regan

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #16 on April 20, 2024, 11:35:20 pm by Pancho Regan »
The keeper was not assaulted.


https://twitter.com/ChrisNeedh72549/status/1781802978103427401?t=E4vbu3PpZrvSkZj0x-HRlQ&s=19

That is a crucial piece of video evidence Nudga.

I’m not sure what is being claimed by Barrow’s manager, and I’ve read a couple of posts on the Barrow forum claiming their keeper was assaulted during the pitch invasion, but that video shows that the keeper actually ‘assaults’ a fan.

Not in any way condoning a pitch invasion because those involved are idiots, but this is key evidence.

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #17 on April 20, 2024, 11:37:39 pm by drfcsteve »
In another post by Nudga, there seems to be some doubt that anyone touched their keeper, but that he threw a youngster to the floor!

Not condoning anyone going on the pitch but the way the Barrow manager is spouting off!

Sour grapes comes to mind?

If shoe was on the other foot I’d expect McCaan to be spouting off about it. Would have been very easy for one of our morons to assault their players, that’s why you’re not allowed on the pitch.

Nudga

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« Reply #18 on April 20, 2024, 11:38:19 pm by Nudga »
Wild said the keeper was violently assaulted.
The keeper was initially in a safe space until he decided to walk back 20 yards into the thick of it, then it's him that assaults a young lad.
Not condoning the pitch invasion either but we can't have false allegations levelled at us.

Sprotyrover

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« Reply #19 on April 20, 2024, 11:49:46 pm by Sprotyrover »
Wild said the keeper was violently assaulted.
The keeper was initially in a safe space until he decided to walk back 20 yards into the thick of it, then it's him that assaults a young lad.
Not condoning the pitch invasion either but we can't have false allegations levelled at us.
That is spot on Nudga he walks out of the way then deliberately puts himself back in it and does a Judo throw on some fat kid running past him no doubt taunting him but his response is not justified, the was an assault committed by him! Not on him!

mushRTID

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« Reply #20 on April 20, 2024, 11:55:09 pm by mushRTID »
Before the goalie got in a self inflicted tangle one of their defenders also tried to stamp on/trip up one of our fans too.

As others have said, not condoning a pitch invasion but their players gave some out.

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #21 on April 21, 2024, 12:01:23 am by Bentley Bullet »
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we now live in a country full of bad losers. Nob heads running on the pitch just provide ammunition in this instance.

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #22 on April 21, 2024, 12:06:16 am by ForsolongaRover »
The EFL surely have to act within their own rules. Is anyone aware of a Rule that carries this sanction?

Serious spectator misbehaviour usually carries the sanction of playing behind closed doors.

If there were a points deduction the club would appeal and it could well affect the outcome of the play-offs - the teams involved or the final positions, either of which would have a chaotic outcome for  promotion via the Play-offs.

It seems like scaremongering to me, pure and simple.

Colin C No.3

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #23 on April 21, 2024, 12:10:21 am by Colin C No.3 »
Mindless, self indulgent idiots.

“Look at me I’m on the pitch because I love this club so much & want to share my joy with you all”.

Feck off.

It’ll be a fine at worst.


ForsolongaRover

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« Reply #24 on April 21, 2024, 12:20:56 am by ForsolongaRover »
I did find this: https://wokingham.today/reading-handed-suspended-three-point-deduction-by-efl-for-pitch-invasion/

The match in question had to be abandoned and the 3 point penalty was suspended. So I don’t think we have too much to worry about.

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #25 on April 21, 2024, 12:36:52 am by Drover »
Hope we play them in play offs and trounce them now,mardy ar5e.

mushRTID

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« Reply #26 on April 21, 2024, 12:39:34 am by mushRTID »
Hope we play them in play offs and trounce them now,mardy ar5e.

Honestly think we are going to, got that feeling.

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« Reply #27 on April 21, 2024, 01:30:05 am by Move DRFC »
It’s daft they ran on the pitch but surely the excitement and emotion just got the better of them. They’ve goaded their keeper and maybe the defenders, no assault clearly. Nothing story. Fine us and move on.

Everyone will run when we get to Wembley anyway

PDX_Rover

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Re: Possible points deduction ?
« Reply #28 on April 21, 2024, 01:33:09 am by PDX_Rover »
The keeper was not assaulted.


https://twitter.com/ChrisNeedh72549/status/1781802978103427401?t=E4vbu3PpZrvSkZj0x-HRlQ&s=19

Wild claimed Farman was assaulted and he and his bench ran onto the pitch to prevent him being beaten up. Fans should stay off the pitch but Wild is trying to stoke something up. The video is vital.

Sour grapes and fearful of getting us in the playoffs should we make it.

Drama queen. I’ve seen worse outside school when I was 7.

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« Reply #29 on April 21, 2024, 06:29:07 am by roversdude »
It’s daft they ran on the pitch but surely the excitement and emotion just got the better of them. They’ve goaded their keeper and maybe the defenders, no assault clearly. Nothing story. Fine us and move on.

Everyone will run when we get to Wembley anyway

The excitement and emotion got the better of me but at no point would I have run on the pitch

 

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