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Quote from: rich1471 on January 25, 2022, 10:48:11 amThe met police are going to investigate the parties held at number 10 over the last 2 years this has to be the final nail in his coffin Not too sure about that. Watch out for PMQ's tomorrow - 'Sue Grays report publication will have to wait until the result of the police enquiry'! IMO 'Dame Dick' knows exactly what she's doing - protect Big Dog!
The met police are going to investigate the parties held at number 10 over the last 2 years this has to be the final nail in his coffin
At least it'll be a change of answer at PMQ's tomorrow. Instead of 'We must wait the outcome of Sue Gray's report' to every question, we will have 'We must await the outcome of the Metropolitan Police inquiry'.
This looks like it could be the cover up to end all cover ups.The plan, apparently, is to publish all the parts of the Gray report that don't refer to the things that the Met is investigating.So the redacted report will have no smoking gun.Then if the Met investigate and report that there is nothing to justify them taking any action, the redacted parts of the Gray report can be shelved as irrelevant.Is that realistic? Well the Electoral Commission gave the Met a file on illegal use of funds by the Leave side in the 2016 Ref. The Met sat on it for two years, while Johnson was elected, then summarily announced that there was no case to answer. To the best of my knowledge, they have never explained the basis of that decision. And attention moves on.
But a birthday cake will.
Moving in from this and diversifying a littleDoes anyone else feel that they couldn’t employ D Cummings. He’s an untrustworthy snake who’d stab anyone in the backThat’s got nothing to do with what’s happened at number 10 they deserve everything that’s comingI just find Cummings a 2 faced hypocrite
That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.
Quote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?
Quote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.
Quote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .
Cummings should be sent to Moscow, as British ambassador. He’d do a job there for us.
Quote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 07:07:22 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .F*cking hell, the prospect of snake oil Chuka Umunna as Prime Minister draws ever closer.
Quote from: scawsby steve on January 25, 2022, 07:25:29 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 07:07:22 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .F*cking hell, the prospect of snake oil Chuka Umunna as Prime Minister draws ever closer.Quote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 07:07:22 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .There's not a chance in a million of the Tories not being in the top 2 in a General Election anytime soon. There's a core of 25-30% who will never leave them. And they are well distributed across constituencies. So it's almost inconceivable that they'd ever get much fewer that 200 seats.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on January 25, 2022, 07:55:13 pmQuote from: scawsby steve on January 25, 2022, 07:25:29 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 07:07:22 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .F*cking hell, the prospect of snake oil Chuka Umunna as Prime Minister draws ever closer.Quote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 07:07:22 pmQuote from: drfchound on January 25, 2022, 06:58:12 pmQuote from: tyke1962 on January 25, 2022, 05:59:03 pmQuote from: selby on January 25, 2022, 05:52:23 pm That is the next big question Tyke, can Labour at the moment afford Johnson to be replaced. He is the only subject on their agenda at the moment, Covid, The Ukraine situation, the economy, fuel poverty, the main things to the electorate not really important to them, just get rid of Johnson, and the replacement no doubt will be a much bigger problem in a couple of years time if they manage to remove him.I think this particular Tory Party is done for personally Selby .I think the real question is can the Labour Party beat the Dems to form a majority government ?That is a good point tyke.It is very possible that lots of Tory voters will switch to the Libdems.If Labour were to stand down any candidates in traditional Tory voting constituencies it would certainly ensure in many cases as things stand today that the Tories wouldn't win enough of their traditional seats .With the former Red Wall returning it would be a pretty close thing in my opinion between Labour and The Dems .Whether they'd work together is of course open to debate .There's not a chance in a million of the Tories not being in the top 2 in a General Election anytime soon. There's a core of 25-30% who will never leave them. And they are well distributed across constituencies. So it's almost inconceivable that they'd ever get much fewer that 200 seats.Well it isn't inconceivable is it because they only won 165 seats in 1997 .So it is possible given the damage they've contributed to themselves today is far more than in the mid 90's .