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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Colemans Left Hook on September 13, 2021, 02:46:19 pm
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We have seen lots of mickey mouse places attain "City" status over the last 50 years
Q.1 why isn't Doncaster finally a City (hint ? "allegedly" without effort you get nowhere) and
Q.2 would City status benefit DRFC ?
Discuss
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They have applied but didn't get chosen
This was about the time that Sunderland got the nod
It does cost money to apply
Not sure if any benefits for DRFC
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Don’t you have to have cathedral?
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They have applied but didn't get chosen
This was about the time that Sunderland got the nod
It does cost money to apply
Not sure if any benefits for DRFC
thanks for that they got it in 1992 that's 29 years ago
"It was granted city status in 1992, the 40th anniversary of Queen Elizabeth II's accession to the throne. The borough had a population of 275,400 at the time of the 2011 census, with the majority of the population (174,286) residing in Sunderland"
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Don’t you have to have cathedral?
i used to fall for that one
basically it seems it's down to the Queen (someone should remind her that her filly Dunfermline won the St. Leger) me thinks we are half way their already
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Lost out to Preston one time too
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A Minster can be a Cathedral, York being a prime example, but this is not a requirement.
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Dont see how the status of Doncaster would help Rovers?
It hasn't helped, Gloucester, St Albans, Bath or Truro for instance - or been much use to York or Notts County?
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How many would vote to change the club’s name from Rovers to Doncaster City?…thought not, me neither!
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You don't have to be a city to call your football team 'City'. Just ask Brechin! ;)
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How many would vote to change the club’s name from Rovers to Doncaster City?…thought not, me neither!
Swansea Town did in 1969.
Of course Town was technically no longer valid name for them, while Rovers would still be OK for a city (e.g. Bristol)
And although Swansea City did reach the old Division 1 in 1981 they fell back quickly and in 2003 had to win their last match to avoid dropping into the Conference, the same season we won the playoff final. The last 10 years have been their best years in their history - so that suggests no real immediate boost from being a City.
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How many would vote to change the club’s name from Rovers to Doncaster City?…thought not, me neither!
Swansea Town did in 1969.
Of course Town was technically no longer valid name for them, while Rovers would still be OK for a city (e.g. Bristol)
And although Swansea City did reach the old Division 1 in 1981 they fell back quickly and in 2003 had to win their last match to avoid dropping into the Conference, the same season we won the playoff final. The last 10 years have been their best years in their history - so that suggests no real immediate boost from being a City.
Nice one, Dutch!
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A Minster can be a Cathedral, York being a prime example, but this is not a requirement.
Isn't St George's Church now known as Doncaster Minster?
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A Minster can be a Cathedral, York being a prime example, but this is not a requirement.
Isn't St George's Church now known as Doncaster Minster?
It is indeed SS and has been for quite a while now.
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A Minster can be a Cathedral, York being a prime example, but this is not a requirement.
Isn't St George's Church now known as Doncaster Minster?
It is indeed SS and has been for quite a while now.
Yes, it was Doncaster Minster that I was referring to.
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wasn't there talk, at the time of Sunderland "getting the nod" that we would never get it, because of the "dodgey" reputation of Doncaster councillors? :chair:
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How many would vote to change the club’s name from Rovers to Doncaster City?…thought not, me neither!
stay focused we all know Doncaster is a railway "town" so no need to deliberately "de-rail" the thread with sillyness
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a few clues here as to what goes on from a Brighton point of view
"Why is Brighton a City?
So, the question then becomes, “why is Brighton a city?” Well, for the year 2000, it was decided that every town with ambitions to become a city could apply to be one.
Blackburn, Blackpool, Brighton & Hove, Bolton, Chelmsford, Colchester, Croydon, Darwen, Doncaster, Dover, Greenwich, Guildford, Inverness, Ipswich, Luton, Maidstone, Med, Milton Keynes, Northampton, Reading, Shrewsbury and Atcham, Southend-on-Sea, Stockport, Swindon, Telford, Warrington, Wirral and Wolverhampton all quickly sent in their applications to become cities.
They were judged, apparently, on their merits in three areas: notable features, historic and/or royal features and their “forward-looking attitude”. That third category seems to be one of those neatly unquantifiable things that British bureaucracy absolutely loves to use so they can stamp, “computer says no” on things.
This process took place again in the year 2012 for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. Interestingly, the three cities chosen in 2012, Chelmsford, St Asaph and Perth, had not applied in the year 2000."
Presumably when the Queen makes 100 will be the next time to apply ?
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I believe there is a further application being prepared for next years jubilee where again city status can be awarded. Sure I saw something about DMBC doing a feasibility into this a while back in the free press
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Being a cynic I'd suggest one of the main reasons Doncaster is not a city in spite of it's size and relative importance is due to the fact that historically the parliamentary constituencies in the borough have been safe seats.
Perhaps the results from the last General Election in each of town's seats may boost our chances of gaining much deserved city status.
Impact on the Rovers from such a thing happening: negligible in my view.
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Presumably when the Queen makes 100 will be the next time to apply ?
2012 is Platinum Jubilee year.
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f**k it,
Doncaster is a big place. In some ways it's better to be a big fish in a small pond. Maybe being the biggest town in the country is better?
Mayb being absurdly big as a town could be a great way to market the place?
What benefit does city status bring?
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Being a cynic I'd suggest one of the main reasons Doncaster is not a city in spite of it's size and relative importance is due to the fact that historically the parliamentary constituencies in the borough have been safe seats.
Perhaps the results from the last General Election in each of town's seats may boost our chances of gaining much deserved city status.
Impact on the Rovers from such a thing happening: negligible in my view.
Agree - Hull was a City that didnt have a top flight Team for the first 104 years of existence. Bradford City have "just" an FA Cup Final win in 1911 and 2 Seasons in Prem for their 118 years so that shows that being a City doesnt in every case mean automatic glory for a Club from that City
I think there is no doubt though that a Team being a success DOES benefit [somtimes only temporarily] its area be that a Town or City, as Hull the place was massivly boosted when The Tigers hit the Prem for that time
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Would it mean a name change Donny City Rovers?
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Would it mean a name change Donny City Rovers?
Leave it a few decades, then when the North Sea rocks up at Donny, we can be the... Bay City Rollers.
:coat:
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Game on then, we have a Naming Competition.
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Being a cynic I'd suggest one of the main reasons Doncaster is not a city in spite of it's size and relative importance is due to the fact that historically the parliamentary constituencies in the borough have been safe seats.
Perhaps the results from the last General Election in each of town's seats may boost our chances of gaining much deserved city status.
Impact on the Rovers from such a thing happening: negligible in my view.
Agree - Hull was a City that didnt have a top flight Team for the first 104 years of existence. Bradford City have "just" an FA Cup Final win in 1911 and 2 Seasons in Prem for their 118 years so that shows that being a City doesnt in every case mean automatic glory for a Club from that City
I think there is no doubt though that a Team being a success DOES benefit [somtimes only temporarily] its area be that a Town or City, as Hull the place was massivly boosted when The Tigers hit the Prem for that time
Bradford had quite a few seasons in the top flight apart from the two in the Premier. They were in the top flight when they won the cup.
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Being a cynic I'd suggest one of the main reasons Doncaster is not a city in spite of it's size and relative importance is due to the fact that historically the parliamentary constituencies in the borough have been safe seats.
Perhaps the results from the last General Election in each of town's seats may boost our chances of gaining much deserved city status.
Impact on the Rovers from such a thing happening: negligible in my view.
Chelmsford has been Conservative since 1950 and it didn't seem to stop them getting City status last time round.
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Look if anyone really wants this city thingy it's selby and bb that have the ear of government surely, having supported them faithfully without question, never shying away from rushing to their defence, never caring about their own reputation or sanity, I'm surprised that they didn't get a call in the reshuffle, maybe it they are on the honours list.
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Donnygate didn't help the town's prospects of city status. Those good old, trustworthy, honest, salt of the earth labour councillors should have been transported to Australia for what they did.
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Are you saying you have no influence at all in the party you know and love bb?
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Look if anyone really wants this city thingy it's selby and bb that have the ear of government surely, having supported them faithfully without question, never shying away from rushing to their defence, never caring about their own reputation or sanity, I'm surprised that they didn't get a call in the reshuffle, maybe it they are on the honours list.
Utterly and totally WUM post.
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You're becoming a grumpy old sod in your dotage Steve, or were you always one?
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You're becoming a grumpy old sod in your dotage Steve, or were you always one?
Not at all, Sydney. As a young man in the 60s, we had the Beatles, Muhammed Ali, the England World Cup winners, full employment, and everything was cheap.
Then the next few generations came, f*cked everything up, and then buggered off to Australia.
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You're becoming a grumpy old sod in your dotage Steve, or were you always one?
Not at all, Sydney. As a young man in the 60s, we had the Beatles, Muhammed Ali, the England World Cup winners, full employment, and everything was cheap.
Then the next few generations came, f*cked everything up, and then buggered off to Australia.
Didn't know 50 year olds were considered young in the 60s Steve?
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I don't blame the beatles just because they went to Australia but plenty blamed Yoko.
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You're becoming a grumpy old sod in your dotage Steve, or were you always one?
Not at all, Sydney. As a young man in the 60s, we had the Beatles, Muhammed Ali, the England World Cup winners, full employment, and everything was cheap.
Then the next few generations came, f*cked everything up, and then buggered off to Australia.
Didn't know 50 year olds were considered young in the 60s Steve?
That's confirmed what I always suspected; that BB's mentoring you.
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It now seems that Bangor, Northern Ireland (where I am now living) has aspirations to become a city as well. As Northern Ireland’s 5th largest place and a bit of a culture and food centre it has a case IMHO.
And it has 4 times the population of Bangor, Wales which is a city.
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It now seems that Bangor, Northern Ireland (where I am now living) has aspirations to become a city as well. As Northern Ireland’s 5th largest place and a bit of a culture and food centre it has a case IMHO.
And it has 4 times the population of Bangor, Wales which is a city.
Are there advantages to be named a city Dutch, is it an upgrade?
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Don’t know the details, but, in Northern Ireland at least, I think it comes with greater funding, or rights to funding, as well as possible increase in tourism. Bangor has a large tourist income, mainly from day trippers.
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I've only been once, from Stranraer to Belfast then down to Dublin, we then followed the border north to the Giants Causeway, around the coast and .......... I can't remember how we returned to the main island. it was about 30 years ago and we thought it terrific.
It's incredible if by dint of a couple of ticks on a form, a town can suddenly become a city and get more money.
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Don’t know the details, but, in Northern Ireland at least, I think it comes with greater funding, or rights to funding, as well as possible increase in tourism. Bangor has a large tourist income, mainly from day trippers.
This interesting London per se is not a city and if nothing has changed there is no economic advantage.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-13841482
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just came across this ..... "as you do"
https://www.doncaster.gov.uk/services/get-involved/show-your-support-for-the-doncaster-city-bid
application has to be in by december 8th
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I had an email from DMBC with all that info CLH.
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What are the actual benefits of being a city?
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Don’t you have to have cathedral?
i used to fall for that one
basically it seems it's down to the Queen (someone should remind her that her filly Dunfermline won the St. Leger) me thinks we are half way their already
And now we are are all the way there
Asi said THAT WAS A THANK YOU from M'amm for the pleasure of her 4 legged friend and the museum clinched it
Next stop Doncaster City of Culture :scarf:
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What are the actual benefits of being a city?
Being able to lord it over Barnsley and Rotherham, primarily.
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What are the actual benefits of being a city?
That's worth £10 million a year in my reckoning
Being able to lord it over Barnsley and Rotherham, primarily.
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Donnygate didn't help the town's prospects of city status. Those good old, trustworthy, honest, salt of the earth labour councillors should have been transported to Australia for what they did.
Get it right BB and say they should have been sent to Tasmania (or should i say Van Diemen's Land) that was effectively double bubble transportation
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It's now a badge of honour if you can prove you are a descendent of a convict.
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It's now a badge of honour if you can prove you are a descendent of a convict.
https://convictrecords.com.au/
Convict Records of Australia
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Being a cynic I'd suggest one of the main reasons Doncaster is not a city in spite of it's size and relative importance is due to the fact that historically the parliamentary constituencies in the borough have been safe seats.
Perhaps the results from the last General Election in each of town's seats may boost our chances of gaining much deserved city status.
Good call