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I honestly believe that ben whiteman going has seriously put a dent in our promotion hopes. without him last week our midfield looked bare yes we won the game but there wasn't the control there that we would usually have with ben in. unless we can sign a player and quickly in the same calibre as ben then i can see us fading away.
Anyone else feel a bit deflated by the news from Liam Hoden's latest article?Link here for those that haven't seen it:https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/darren-moore-transfer-business-doncaster-rovers-wake-ben-whitemans-departure-3101180I realise the financial situation that the club is currently in, but it's a bit frustrating to me that we are loading up the squad with more loans than we can actually put in the side (again!). A few loans is fine, but DM saying he likes to have six is, in my view, too many.I know we're doing well this season but there's something that just doesn't feel right about going back to the bare bones of a squad every year and making up the rest with a conveyor belt of loanees.No doubt many on here will disagree but that's just my view.
Not a criticism of Ben with the way he plays or is told to play but I thought we moved the ball forward a lot quicker against Blackburn than in previous games which personally I don't think is necessarily a bad thing. I'll be interested to see how we play in the coming games
Are we a weaker team without BW?I guess we are, therefore our chances of being top six have taken a hit. But if we miss out I don't think we can just point to losing Ben as the reason we didn't do anything.Although we are sitting in 4th place we are just 3 points above 10th, its a very open league this year. We had a run of fixtures against some struggling teams, and although not playing well, we managed to put a run together. Then due to Covid, we managed to avoid some tough games against our rivals. We could have lost against Peterborough, Fleetwood and Qxford quite easily. So it could be argued we are in a false position atm.Re the latest from DM. Its typical comedy gold. The club spins things to try and keep us all upbeat and then DM spouts off with something totally different. Who do you believe? I've no idea.
Quote from: RugbyRover on January 14, 2021, 06:09:36 pmAre we a weaker team without BW?I guess we are, therefore our chances of being top six have taken a hit. But if we miss out I don't think we can just point to losing Ben as the reason we didn't do anything.Although we are sitting in 4th place we are just 3 points above 10th, its a very open league this year. We had a run of fixtures against some struggling teams, and although not playing well, we managed to put a run together. Then due to Covid, we managed to avoid some tough games against our rivals. We could have lost against Peterborough, Fleetwood and Qxford quite easily. So it could be argued we are in a false position atm.Re the latest from DM. Its typical comedy gold. The club spins things to try and keep us all upbeat and then DM spouts off with something totally different. Who do you believe? I've no idea. Charlton, Portsmouth, Ipswich, Lincoln, and Sunderland; struggling teams?False position? I don't think so.
I know loanees were mentioned in the article and we had six loanees before Christmas because of injuries it was never a problem. But DM said he’s looking at other avenues before loanees. I am disappointed that we are not going to pay a fee for a player. But DM has to work with the finances he has. What is a bit confusing we’ve lost Ben and Copps is injured yet we have two of our young players out on loan. Maybe they would not get in the first team but they would be part of the match day squad. Let’s see what type of magic DM can pull out of the hat to get players we need.
It's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW.
Quote from: steve@dcfd on January 14, 2021, 06:10:08 pmI know loanees were mentioned in the article and we had six loanees before Christmas because of injuries it was never a problem. But DM said he’s looking at other avenues before loanees. I am disappointed that we are not going to pay a fee for a player. But DM has to work with the finances he has. What is a bit confusing we’ve lost Ben and Copps is injured yet we have two of our young players out on loan. Maybe they would not get in the first team but they would be part of the match day squad. Let’s see what type of magic DM can pull out of the hat to get players we need.Are you including Seaman in those two Steve?
There have been a few posters now suggesting we won’t be any weaker after losing Whiteman. This absolutely baffles me. He is (was) our best player, made the team tick and was our captain. Taking him out of the team leaves a massive hole - it was only a few months ago that there was concern that we were light in that department without good enough options to play alongside him, let alone in his place.We might sign someone, permanently or on loan, who can adequately replace him, and we might find a way to play better without him with the players we have. But any suggestion that we’re not immediately weakened with him leaving is nonsense - like a teenager being dumped and responding “yeah, I was going to dump you anyway”.
Quote from: Avsuptem on January 14, 2021, 07:10:25 pmIt's hard to see how the team can not be weaker if we have lost our 2 best players in Simms and BW. Neither Sims or Ben are any good in goal, neither are very good centre backs or r/l backs..Neither are good out n out strikers so not sure who you are comparing them to.......oh you mean we’ve lost 2 good midfield players, im sure Smith ,James,Copps, Gomez, Richards and the other couple or three can be coaxed to add something to the team .....it might be different, but it won’t be worse