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Quote from: Lipsy on July 09, 2016, 10:13:14 pmAbsolutely. I'm angry about it all on many levels (including the fact that those who voted to leave have been lied to!), but - the fact is - the very poorest people across the land are going to be hurt so very, very badly. That boils my piss.The very poorest people across the land were already hurt so very, very badly. THAT's probably what swung the vote. What did they feel they had to lose?
Absolutely. I'm angry about it all on many levels (including the fact that those who voted to leave have been lied to!), but - the fact is - the very poorest people across the land are going to be hurt so very, very badly. That boils my piss.
EH?
Things are a lot better now but when she died it took four months before i got any money to help me with the boys, I have always worked and payed tax but had to sell my car and other belongings to support us during this period, i cant help thinking if i had arrived from Poland or anywhere else to be honest i would have been given the support i needed.
Yes. When you have seen the system from my side then you can spout off.
Quote from: darren61 on July 10, 2016, 09:36:17 amYes. When you have seen the system from my side then you can spout off.You tell em mate. But there's no getting through to this blinkered lot, always right . Doesn't matter if it's football or politics.
I won't show any empathy for folk who've got no respect for democracy and other people's views.
Quote from: no eyed deer on July 10, 2016, 09:58:04 amQuote from: darren61 on July 10, 2016, 09:36:17 amYes. When you have seen the system from my side then you can spout off.You tell em mate. But there's no getting through to this blinkered lot, always right . Doesn't matter if it's football or politics.See above post. You might learn something.
Quote from: Glyn_Wigley on July 10, 2016, 10:02:31 amQuote from: no eyed deer on July 10, 2016, 09:58:04 amQuote from: darren61 on July 10, 2016, 09:36:17 amYes. When you have seen the system from my side then you can spout off.You tell em mate. But there's no getting through to this blinkered lot, always right . Doesn't matter if it's football or politics.See above post. You might learn something.The world is run by money men . They will still get rich and the poor will pay . What's to learn .
Quote from: darren61 on July 10, 2016, 09:36:17 amYes. When you have seen the system from my side then you can spout off.I have as I'm disabled. And I've worked inside the system so I've seen it from both sides - have you? Do I have your permission to spout off now?
The very poorest people across the land were already hurt so very, very badly. THAT's probably what swung the vote. What did they feel they had to lose?So they voted out because they felt they had to lose everything?Of course I understood the risks, that's why I voted to remain. My contribution to this thread isn't about why I voted the way I did, though, it's about why people voted out. The difference with me is I don't want to follow the trend and ridicule the leave voters. I want to discuss why they voted the way they did, and not in a patronising why did they vote the wrong way style.I don't even know if they did vote the wrong way at this moment in time. People can only speculate.
Glyn, Do you think having worked inside the system, therefore knowing the ins and outs of benefits available, the ones that are not always offered to ordinary people who don't know they are entitled to them, has been somewhat of an advantage to you?
It makes you wonder why 600,000 unemployed foreign immigrants find the country such an attractive option doesn't it?
Quote from: Bentley Bullet on July 10, 2016, 11:01:49 amIt makes you wonder why 600,000 unemployed foreign immigrants find the country such an attractive option doesn't it?No, it makes me wonder how people can be so seduced by 'a gross and totally irresponsible misrepresentation of the facts' - when even The Sun admitted it wasn't true.http://eu-rope.ideasoneurope.eu/2013/10/14/true-or-false/
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 10, 2016, 11:32:59 amRigoYou were on the winning side. You're doing plenty of squawking?Remind me what your point was?I'm not doing any squawking. The decision isn't going to effect me much because 1) life has taught me to move on quickly and adapt to change, 2) I live within my means and not beyond them and 3) I'm not pretending to be the next Tony Blair when posting on an internet forum.The only ones with no respect for democracy, many of whom are probably living beyond their means are middle-class wannabees and door-knockers.
RigoYou were on the winning side. You're doing plenty of squawking?Remind me what your point was?