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Quote from: danumdon on July 07, 2022, 02:58:43 pmQuote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2022, 02:30:20 pmTimeline of the folk on the Right in here.2016-2020. Johnson's absolutely bang on! He tells it like it is.2020. Ok, so he lies occasionally, but they're all the same.2021. OK, so he lies more than any politician in history, but why do you go on about it so much?Winter 2022. OK, so maybe you're right that he's a moral black hole, but I'd have seen that sooner if you hadn't made such a song and dance about it.Spring 2022. Actually I knew that we was an amoral pathological liar all along.Today. Yeah but Starmer.Another 5 mins of your life that could of been better spent doing something useful. get the Mr's to wipe the froth away, people will start to talk!Totally pointless.Point is DD, it matters.We've had years now of folk idly saying "they're all the same." When they AREN'T all the same.Lazily doing this bothsides thing just opens to door for a true pathological liar like Johnson to walk in and shit all over the place. Because too many people have been prepared to excuse him on the grounds that he's no different from any other politician in his principles.This time it's only resulted in the danger of renewed conflict in Ireland, a totally botched approach to a pandemic, a stunted economy and the possibility of the PM being compromised by the FSB.Next time, if we don't start growing up on this theme, it could be REALLY serious.
Quote from: BillyStubbsTears on July 07, 2022, 02:30:20 pmTimeline of the folk on the Right in here.2016-2020. Johnson's absolutely bang on! He tells it like it is.2020. Ok, so he lies occasionally, but they're all the same.2021. OK, so he lies more than any politician in history, but why do you go on about it so much?Winter 2022. OK, so maybe you're right that he's a moral black hole, but I'd have seen that sooner if you hadn't made such a song and dance about it.Spring 2022. Actually I knew that we was an amoral pathological liar all along.Today. Yeah but Starmer.Another 5 mins of your life that could of been better spent doing something useful. get the Mr's to wipe the froth away, people will start to talk!Totally pointless.
Timeline of the folk on the Right in here.2016-2020. Johnson's absolutely bang on! He tells it like it is.2020. Ok, so he lies occasionally, but they're all the same.2021. OK, so he lies more than any politician in history, but why do you go on about it so much?Winter 2022. OK, so maybe you're right that he's a moral black hole, but I'd have seen that sooner if you hadn't made such a song and dance about it.Spring 2022. Actually I knew that we was an amoral pathological liar all along.Today. Yeah but Starmer.
BST, imagine you're in construction, a house builder or JCB and peace in Ukraine has been brokered one way or another, assuming Russia hasn't taken over completely.Send Boris over there to press the flesh, he's going to win contracts, he'll still have the connections in both governments. Can't fail.
The connections Johnson has in the rightwing media shouldn't be overlooked either. He will be a star opinion former/columnist if he wants to be. He has lots of wealthy friends.It's been reported for a longtime, that Johnson intends to make a packet when he leaves government. It's come sooner than he wanted but now it's bound to be his objective.
He’s still a f**king Kitson though..He still can’t see that it’s not what the government has achieved whatever our views on that may be, it’s about his very flawed character. He’s not fit to govern and has finally been found out by his nearest and dearest..
Quote from: IDM on July 07, 2022, 06:53:35 pmHe’s still a f**king Kitson though..He still can’t see that it’s not what the government has achieved whatever our views on that may be, it’s about his very flawed character. He’s not fit to govern and has finally been found out by his nearest and dearest..Oh, I agree. But there will be those learning from this episode.
Quote from: River Don on July 07, 2022, 06:55:11 pmQuote from: IDM on July 07, 2022, 06:53:35 pmHe’s still a f**king Kitson though..He still can’t see that it’s not what the government has achieved whatever our views on that may be, it’s about his very flawed character. He’s not fit to govern and has finally been found out by his nearest and dearest..Oh, I agree. But there will be those learning from this episode.Case in point? Who in the Tory party or the right wing press has picked up on his Bunga Bunga party admission yesterday?
I think when historians look back, they will see Johnson as an extraordinary character. Maybe a template for future politicians. What he's done that is extraordinary was to make himself a celebrity. He embraced the media and doesn't mind feeding it with scandal. It's the life blood of the press.The deeply negative aspect of Johnson is that it's so self centred. All about the pursuit of power.Johnson will be more significant than Major, Cameron or May.
One thing is clear to me, we need a written constitution, we can not carry on like we are now every unwritten rule has been trashed
Johnson said something earlier today that I didn't get the point of earlier today but it's just struck me.He said there'll be no major decisions on fiscal policy while he stays in No10.This from the BBC:At a cabinet meeting earlier, Mr Johnson told ministers he would not seek to implement "major changes of direction" or take "major fiscal decisions".Just dawned on me what that means. It means no more Govt support for people being hammered by energy prices. Zahawi was lining up some big relief package, but Johnson appears to be vetoing that.That would fit with Johnson. A final "f**k you" to the country and to his party's popularity.
The ones who didn't prop up said megalomaniac?